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Old 01-17-2007, 10:34 AM   #1
MattBrady
 
newuniversal #3

From Marvel

In newuniversal, we find an Earth where everything is related and nothing happens without purpose. So is it a coincidence that John Tensen is a cop? That Kenneth Connell was asleep next to his girlfriend in a field? Is it a coincidence that the tomb Len Carson has been searching for unearthed during the White Event?

The White Event. The celestial phenomenon that changed the Earth as we knew it. A new universe has arrived. Earth is witnessing super humans for the first time.

In newuniversal #3, Warren Ellis and Salvador Larroca continue to bring you the tale of a new beginning for the end of the world. Both Ellis and Larroca have received acclaim for their previous works; now see what happens when these two superstars join forces.

Don’t miss the book that Jason Sacks of SilverBulletComicbooks.com calls “an epic.”

newuniversal #3 (DEC062330)
Written by Warren Ellis
Pencils and Cover by Salvador Larroca
Rated T+ …$2.99
FOC – 1/18, On-Sale – 2/7/2007


 
Old 01-17-2007, 10:59 AM   #2
MShivers
 
This series has been amazingly good so far...

As a fan of the original New Universe, I expected to like it... but Ellis and Larroca have surpassed my expectations.

And that scene of Justice in the preview.... brutal!

- Michael
 
Old 01-17-2007, 11:08 AM   #3
SpyGuy
 
Ellis and Larroca have done the impossible: They made the New Universe interesting. Well, I guess the original idea was always interesting, but the execution of that idea...

Issue #3 cannot get here soon enough.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 11:30 AM   #4
Punchy
 
Ouch,

Bruce Willis ftw.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 11:51 AM   #5
Darthphere
 
Is that Angelina there?
 
Old 01-17-2007, 12:02 PM   #6
Redmond
 
I'm a fan of both creators AND the old New Universe, and!!! this book is boring!! Salva's done way better. Everything he's done before NU kicks it's ass. And you know Ellis is on autopilot for the blingbling hollywood pleez notice our comix for big money deal$.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 12:42 PM   #7
durkadurka
 
I really like this series. I was very skeptical at first, both because of the original New Universe as well as the "cameo" of the New Universe in Exiles. Wasn't a big fan of that particular storyline.
However, this series is sizing up to be pretty badass.
I like how the Superflow is part Bleed and part Dreaming. With big robots.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 12:56 PM   #8
Scud-O
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redmond
I'm a fan of both creators AND the old New Universe, and!!! this book is boring!! Salva's done way better. Everything he's done before NU kicks it's ass. And you know Ellis is on autopilot for the blingbling hollywood pleez notice our comix for big money deal$.

Wow. Insightful criticism. I'm glad I read it.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 02:09 PM   #9
Kolimar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MShivers
This series has been amazingly good so far...

As a fan of the original New Universe, I expected to like it... but Ellis and Larroca have surpassed my expectations.

And that scene of Justice in the preview.... brutal!

- Michael

Agreed.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 02:22 PM   #10
kingofcities
 
This book is fantastic. You can feel this intricately woven story beginning to unfold with each page. I think it's going to be insane before long. Warren and Salvo are bringing their A-game.

My only complaint...it's not 44 pages a month.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 02:40 PM   #11
johnturned51
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redmond
I'm a fan of both creators AND the old New Universe, and!!! this book is boring!! Salva's done way better. Everything he's done before NU kicks it's ass. And you know Ellis is on autopilot for the blingbling hollywood pleez notice our comix for big money deal$.


Wow, i feel exactly the oppisite...

Salvs work here is WAAAY better than what he did on X-Men.

And to say Ellis is on autopiliot is actually offensive. To say that he's looking for notice from hollywood for "big money deals" means you know nothing about him as a person or a writter.

Not to mention you drastically underestimate the amount of work he's put into this.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 02:44 PM   #12
kingofcities
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnturned51
To say that he's looking for notice from hollywood for "big money deals" means you know nothing about him as a person or a writter.

You didn't know?

He's going to make millions and millions when they make the newuniversal trilogy.

Millions!
 
Old 01-17-2007, 03:00 PM   #13
durkadurka
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingofcities
You didn't know?

He's going to make millions and millions when they make the newuniversal trilogy.

Millions!

Millions? Try Zillions!!
 
Old 01-17-2007, 04:26 PM   #14
AAB
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingofcities
You didn't know?

He's going to make millions and millions when they make the newuniversal trilogy.

Millions!


I cant believe (in a good way) people are enjoying this 80's rebirth. And as we breath, the mullet is making its comeback.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 04:31 PM   #15
AAB
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingofcities
You didn't know?

He's going to make millions and millions when they make the newuniversal trilogy.

Millions!


I cant believe (in a good way) people are enjoying this 80's rebirth. And as we breath, the mullet is making its comeback.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 05:06 PM   #16
Snikkas
 
That is a pretty sick 4th page
 
Old 01-17-2007, 05:43 PM   #17
Redmond
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scud-O
Wow. Insightful criticism. I'm glad I read it.
You're welcomed! :]
 
Old 01-17-2007, 05:48 PM   #18
Redmond
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingofcities
You didn't know?

He's going to make millions and millions when they make the newuniversal trilogy.

Millions!

Of course it won't make millions, I was being sarcastic. Because it's obviously designed as a movie pitch. With suggested actors already cast. They're only puting this out to prolong the copyright on a dormant intellectual property and maybe pitch it around as a movie to Hollywood producers. In case you haven't noticed the comic movies are about the only thing keeping Marvel going financially. It makes sense they'd try to get more done. And it's not that bad of idea. Star Brand could probably work.

I dislike Salva's story telling on this. There's too many headshots and it feels really croped.

Also Ellis is on auto pilot. Even his creator owned work feels like an after thought. I'm still pissed at Black Gas. I won't buy any of his Avatar work. Maybe you should read Transmet or even his 90s commercial stuff to see what he can do.

Last edited by Redmond : 01-17-2007 at 05:54 PM.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 07:53 PM   #19
Solario
 
I can't believe you're seriously considering Desolation Jones, Fell, Nextwave and newuniversal him on auto-pilot. Especially the first three.

Ellis wouldn't make a dime off the movie stuff anyway, it's not his property, and given his status I don't think Marvel would shelf such a big name creator on a thing like newuniversal, if they had the intention of making it into a movie. Too many seemingly unrelated characters with no real "end" to the story.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 10:17 PM   #20
Titan Slade
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnturned51
Salvs work here is WAAAY better than what he did on X-Men.

Quoted for the truth.
 
Old 01-17-2007, 11:04 PM   #21
HartyPotter
 
I really want to like this series but I've been a little lukewarm towards it so far. I hope #3 helps me decide one way or the other.
 
Old 01-19-2007, 10:53 AM   #22
Crusader K
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpyGuy
Ellis and Larroca have done the impossible: They made the New Universe interesting. Well, I guess the original idea was always interesting, but the execution of that idea...

Issue #3 cannot get here soon enough.

Completely agree. I just hope no one gets "costumes". I can understand Nightmask being dressed differently given the locale she's in but the rest? Unnecessary.

Love Jamie Cromwell in there too. Like reading a movie.
 
Old 01-19-2007, 02:56 PM   #23
MattBrady
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redmond
In case you haven't noticed the comic movies are about the only thing keeping Marvel going financially.
Well no, that's just not really true. Licensing is the largest division of the company, in terms of revenue, and while movie deals make up a portion of that, the revenue generated by licenses for other products generates far more income. It's been in all the quarterly and annual report breakdowns - not like they're hiding it. The movies contribute, but to call them "about the only thing" is rather disingenuous.

MattB
 
Old 01-21-2007, 11:51 PM   #24
silverbolt
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattBrady
Well no, that's just not really true. Licensing is the largest division of the company, in terms of revenue, and while movie deals make up a portion of that, the revenue generated by licenses for other products generates far more income. It's been in all the quarterly and annual report breakdowns - not like they're hiding it. The movies contribute, but to call them "about the only thing" is rather disingenuous.

MattB

thats is so funny. just have to come out and shoot down another anti-marvel sentiment.
or is it because Ellis or Larroca have an upcoming interview coming?
you always say you dont defend marvel, but you really do, there was no point -as a moderator and administrator- to reply here "putting him in his place". Let other posters do that. you'd cite "well we dont want noone spreadin' rumors or nuthin'", but do any of us have quarter earnings statements for company sub-sub divisions easily available to us like you do? NO. It was just an opinion he felt like giving at the time. If anyone felt like contesting him, they could have.
lighten up.

as for the actual book, i liked the ORIGINAL NewUniverse, still own every StarBrand, but this just READS Warren Ellis, Im sorry. (yes i see i have to apologize here as people will be calling for my head). There are certain writers where you cant healp but hear the "writer"'s" voice instead of the "characters'" voice. I find that problem with Ellis's work. Even Thunderbolts had that Ellis pseudo Paul Veerhooven feel to it. Not picking it up after that first one.

And now that I mention that, and people are talking about Salvador's 'new look' - dont you think its similar to Deodatos new look? (by his new look i mean since he re-emerged on Incredible hulk after doing stuff like Wonder Woman and Jade Warriors and even Thor). Isnt this photorealistic, dark, emulating actors from the neck up, 3-4 panels on a page - kinda a striking difference to say the least? Its funny cuz for this series he announced he was doing a different style , almost like he wanted to do this near-perfect style before, but felt "no, i should stick with the more penciled flawed look". hmm.

damn my american non-robot brain.
 
Old 01-22-2007, 04:52 AM   #25
jza1218
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by silverbolt
thats is so funny. just have to come out and shoot down another anti-marvel sentiment.
or is it because Ellis or Larroca have an upcoming interview coming?
you always say you dont defend marvel, but you really do, there was no point -as a moderator and administrator- to reply here "putting him in his place".

Matt has posted on the boards in a non-admin/moderator status plenty of times in the past. Simply because you think that he is "The Man" here doesn't mean that he is on another level where he doesn't interact with us "common folk".

And he isn't a Marvel apologist in the least if he's simply correcting someone's attempt to spread mistruths. If anything, he does plenty to spread the wealth. Its not like he only features Joe Quesada here on the Rama. He has the 5.2 with Michael Siglain every week. He has "Indy Weekly", "Write or Wrong" with Dirk Manning, as well as the new Atomika section in the forums.

Quote:
Let other posters do that. you'd cite "well we dont want noone spreadin' rumors or nuthin'", but do any of us have quarter earnings statements for company sub-sub divisions easily available to us like you do? NO.

If that were the case, why did the poster feel comfortable enough to say something that proved to be false? And quarter-earnings statements aren't that difficult to come by. Just look up any on-line stock trading site and you should come across them with one click.

Quote:
It was just an opinion he felt like giving at the time. If anyone felt like contesting him, they could have.
lighten up.

And it wasn't an opinion. It was a statement of fact that turned out to be wrong.
 
 
   

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