X-factor # 13

[Gunslinger]

This issue was WOW!
Just WOW!
To me it felt better from the X-aminations issue.
I mean light years better!
I really laugh,which didn't happen quite awhile.
So WOW!
PAD rulez!

[Bird Flu Man]

Originally Posted by Gunslinger

This issue was WOW!
Just WOW!
To me it felt better from the X-aminations issue.
I mean light years better!
I really laugh,which didn't happen quite awhile.
So WOW!
PAD rulez!

I'm really looking forward to reading the Quicksilver examination. His was my favorite of the original X-Aminations issue.

[Xeero]

Yep, as always, X-Factor was the book I read last as the main event book/meal course. I thought it was really a fun read and each interview just got better and better than the last one. M finally openning up was probably my favorite scene and I loved that Rictor joke Jamie said, HAHA! This was the book I've been wishing to come out sooner and newsarama was making it worse by having those darn interviews and articles for X-Factor weeks before the issue even came out!

The art was okay, I totally miss Sook, but I'll take what I get when it comes to this book, the writings always top-notch. Can't wait for next issue.

[capjr]

I signed on tonight simply to say that this book was absolutley amazing. I picked it up because of the fond memories I have of the old X-Factor issue and the pure goodness of JoeQ's cover and was blown away...


Kudo's to PAD and the team for putting this together....


O, and his examination of Pietro was great. I still enjoy him as a character and I am beginning to believe that outside of Hine(SoM IIRC), PAD is the only creator to truly get this character.

[RogueSmurf6]

Indeed! A fantastic issue full of wonderfully complex character examinations. Not to be too spoilderific, but I think Monet is the stand out character this time around. They each get their shot, but she actually reveals something new. The rest just sort of flesh out what PAD has been doing with them, though Wolfsbane also adds something rather crazy. Quicksilver's is probably the most fun.

The art was superb! Magical even! Madrox looked wonderfully quirky, Pietro was kind of cartoonish, Layla was adorable and Rahne didn't look like a photoshopped dog head on a human body! Kudoes all around. It was an act of genius to get the guy who did the Madrox LS onto X-Factor. Honestly, I gotta say it's even better than Sook's work on that first issue. This is just a beautiful comic.

[Xeero]

wow, only four reviews for this book?

[Clem]

Doesnt Madrox find it slightly disturbing that he'll have known his bride since she was a little girl? Kinda icky no?

I love the way Pietro is in complete denial (like most of the team) of his actions and new powers. Any normal person would say "so you give them twisted versions of their old powers", while Pietro just says "sod off...they get what they deserve". The magnificent b*stard.

[Terram]

Madrox finds it horrifying.

[Michael Hawk]

Originally Posted by Xeero

wow, only four reviews for this book?

Thought aobut picking it up but got New Excalibur instead. Might get it later this weekend.

[S'Cipio]

Originally Posted by Xeero

wow, only four reviews for this book?

My regular comic shop sold out before I got there (No, I don't keep a pull list) So I had to wait a few days and find a copy at an alternate shop.

Well worth the wait! I enjoyed it. Pietro was spooky-evil, but still left me laughing. I really hope Peter David does more with him. I really enjoyed him in David's original X-Factor run, and could totally identify with him in House of M.

-S'Cipio

[Clem]

Originally Posted by Terram

Madrox finds it horrifying.

I dunno, if he wanted to make the best of it, he could always use it as an opportunity to raise the perfect bride. Make sure she ate right, kept in shape, was well educated. And he's always got Monet and Siryn to bang in the meantime.

[Xeero]

Originally Posted by Michael Hawk

Thought aobut picking it up but got New Excalibur instead. Might get it later this weekend.

HOW DARE YOU?!?!?

But how was that? A good read? Wanted to pick that up, myself.

[Terram]

When the Wrecking Crew goes MST3K on your group, you know you have a respectability problem.

[RogueSmurf6]

Originally Posted by Terram

When the Wrecking Crew goes MST3K on your group, you know you have a respectability problem.

Yes, that was actually rather hilarious now that I think about it. They just tore into everything wrong with New Excalibur...basically how useless and pointless they are. Wrecking Crew ruled in that issue! Buy it for them alone. Of course, they were aided in their deconstruction of the title by some mystical voice in Juggernaut's head...

[bob_at_york]

This was an awesome issue. It was at the top of my stack. First, the art was AWESOME!! Everything about it was great. Second, loved how PAD showed he knows his history when it comes to the characters. Especially when he used M. When you think about it she has been through a lot. whether it was her life with Emplate or the fact that most of her friends have died. I am having trouble remembering... when did Rahne get to see the future? Was it something Trypp did? I loved how Samson mentioned how he thinks of Pietro every time he is at a bank machine. Loved how they refernced the jar. Last but not least... it almost looked like they were setting up the issue to reveal that somebody else was the guy talking with them. No point in hiding Samson again is there?

[strathcona]

Originally Posted by bob_at_york

This was an awesome issue. It was at the top of my stack. First, the art was AWESOME!! Everything about it was great. Second, loved how PAD showed he knows his history when it comes to the characters. Especially when he used M. When you think about it she has been through a lot. whether it was her life with Emplate or the fact that most of her friends have died. I am having trouble remembering... when did Rahne get to see the future? Was it something Trypp did? I loved how Samson mentioned how he thinks of Pietro every time he is at a bank machine. Loved how they refernced the jar. Last but not least... it almost looked like they were setting up the issue to reveal that somebody else was the guy talking with them. No point in hiding Samson again is there?

I agree with everything in this post. I especially liked the new art. The original artist was nice and all, but it was too dark and there a few things that bugged me (like Rahne).... I love the new art though. Thought he was good on the Madrox mini... even better here.

I also agree about the Sampson thing. I kept thinking that it might be a different person, but I couldn't think of anyone that fit. I guess they kept him hidden just as an homage to the original.

[LobsterJ]

so looking forward to this issue. i only had two comics out that i buy this week so i didnt go to my shop. i was sorely tempted to get this issue. PADs x-factor was one of the few bright spots of the 90s.

[bob_at_york]

Originally Posted by strathcona

I also agree about the Sampson thing. I kept thinking that it might be a different person, but I couldn't think of anyone that fit. I guess they kept him hidden just as an homage to the original.

I thought maybe Prof. X... but that didn't really fit. There was one panel that made it look like the guy had short hair. That is what made me wonder if it was truly Samson.

[Xeero]

Originally Posted by bob_at_york

I thought maybe Prof. X... but that didn't really fit. There was one panel that made it look like the guy had short hair. That is what made me wonder if it was truly Samson.

I know which panel you're talking about. There was also one panel when Sampson is talking to Layla and you do not see Sampson at all, and I kept wondering, "Wait, wasn't he just moving a piece in the last panel" Artist mistake, I'm sure.

[bob_at_york]

Originally Posted by Xeero

I know which panel you're talking about. There was also one panel when Sampson is talking to Layla and you do not see Sampson at all, and I kept wondering, "Wait, wasn't he just moving a piece in the last panel" Artist mistake, I'm sure.

I am at work so I can't break out the issue but I don't think that was it. Side view of the guy, just a silouette. Is that the right spelling?

[redjb]

Originally Posted by bob_at_york

This was an awesome issue. It was at the top of my stack. First, the art was AWESOME!! Everything about it was great. Second, loved how PAD showed he knows his history when it comes to the characters. Especially when he used M. When you think about it she has been through a lot. whether it was her life with Emplate or the fact that most of her friends have died. I am having trouble remembering... when did Rahne get to see the future? Was it something Trypp did? I loved how Samson mentioned how he thinks of Pietro every time he is at a bank machine. Loved how they refernced the jar. Last but not least... it almost looked like they were setting up the issue to reveal that somebody else was the guy talking with them. No point in hiding Samson again is there?

Rahne seeing the future happened off pannel last issue. I don't have the issue in front of me, but as I recall she said she could still smell future-Tryp, and then attacked him. He struck back and Madrox said "what did you do to her?" or something like that, then tryp showed Madrox the future... It was a pretty small scene.

I agree that M's revelations were the most surprising, but that's largely due to the fact that she hasn't had as much of a storyline as the others have, especially Rictor and Siryn. Also, she is the character I know the least about. I am still foggy on exactly what her powers are. (I've only read one issue of Gen X and a couple of books that she guest starred in, such as new warriors an uncanny x-men.)

Early on in the series I complained that they were not referencing the characters' historys enough, so I am glad they are doing it now. As a fan it feels good when you get what you want from a book. Thank You.

I think hiding Samson was meant as an artistic homage to the Vol1#87, rather then some shocking reveal. As such, I don't mind that they did it that way.

My only confusion is how this all fits into Civil War. Doc Samson has been seen working very closely with the Pro-Reg side, which is where I would expect him to be given his Hulk history. I assume that the "Jen" he referred to was She-Hulk. So X-Factor has come out vowing to aid anti-reg heroes, Siryn even referenced it in her session, but Samson still agrees to work with them? Okay it's not so far fetched since he is a pychiatrist by profession, and this was a job. He could also being keeping tabs on them in case they actually do something against the regestration act (which they haen't, except for the Aegis thing...). But isn't Peitro a wanted man? Why, as an agent of SHEILD, would Samson have a friendly talk with him instead of trying to arrest him? For that matter, why hasn't SHEILD sent in a unit of 'cape killers" to try and take him in?

Still, good book, maybe the last one left...

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by strathcona

II also agree about the Sampson thing. I kept thinking that it might be a different person, but I couldn't think of anyone that fit. I guess they kept him hidden just as an homage to the original.

It was done, I believe, to keep the focus squarely on the character being X-amined. You're looking at them through Samson's eyes this way, as opposed to scenes between Samson and whomever.

And it's "Doc Samson". No "p" as in Percival.

Originally Posted by redjb

I am still foggy on exactly what [M's] powers are.

Super-strength/speed, invulnerability and telepathy.

[Xeero]

She has superspeed? I didn't know that.

You also forgot flight.

[Gunslinger]

Originally Posted by redjb

My only confusion is how this all fits into Civil War. Doc Samson has been seen working very closely with the Pro-Reg side, which is where I would expect him to be given his Hulk history. I assume that the "Jen" he referred to was She-Hulk. So X-Factor has come out vowing to aid anti-reg heroes, Siryn even referenced it in her session, but Samson still agrees to work with them? Okay it's not so far fetched since he is a pychiatrist by profession, and this was a job. He could also being keeping tabs on them in case they actually do something against the regestration act (which they haen't, except for the Aegis thing...). But isn't Peitro a wanted man? Why, as an agent of SHEILD, would Samson have a friendly talk with him instead of trying to arrest him? For that matter, why hasn't SHEILD sent in a unit of 'cape killers" to try and take him in?

X-Factor are registred like all mutants.but they are against the act!
In the Civil WAr tie ins Cyclops said that Pietro is their problem as long he stays in Mutant Town!

[bob_at_york]

Originally Posted by Xeero

She has superspeed? I didn't know that.

You also forgot flight.

I don't think she has superspeed unless you count how fast she can fly.