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11-22-2005, 11:36 AM
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COMICS FOR CONSERVATIVES: LIBERALITY FOR ALL
 It’s controversial, and its mass media coverage is rivaling that seen by the most acclaimed graphic novels from the most prestigious publishers, but Liberality For All creator and writer Mike Mackey has only one message for the comic book market:
“I want to tell comic book retailers across the nation – reorder this book, please. Your customers want it. I’ve sold as many as these books directly as I did through my initial orders from Diamond, and I cannot keep up at this pace. I mean, I can, but I’m sitting at my kitchen table until 3:00 am filling orders. 2,000-plus packages have gone out on this. Please – order this book – it will sell.”
Not what you were thinking the writer of a comic book that’s set in a 2021 America ruled by Liberals, a place where G. Gordon Liddy and Sean Hannity (of Fox’s Hannity and Combs) are biomechincally enhanced freedom fighters, fighting against President Chelsea Clinton and a culture that has all but eliminated Conservative thought would lead off with, huh?
Joining with a handful of other titles that have ultimately received more attention outside of comics than inside, Liberality For All is either a satire of Liberalism, a parody of Conservativism, or just a mad joke, and Mackey is laughing at everyone. Which makes Mackey either a genius or a lunatic – and he freely admits, the Liberality For All audience may still be split on the final verdict.
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11-22-2005, 11:52 AM
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holy pre-emptive strike batman 
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11-22-2005, 11:54 AM
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SEAN HANNITY.
WITH A ROBOT ARM.
This is so outrageously stupid that it's brilliant.
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11-22-2005, 11:56 AM
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sweet!!!
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11-22-2005, 11:58 AM
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I'm curious, is this actually written by an ultra-liberal who is mocking the right wing? It sure seems that way.
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11-22-2005, 11:59 AM
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Re: COMICS FOR CONSERVATIVES: LIBERALITY FOR ALL
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Originally posted by MattBrady
“They fall under the Coulter Laws where Conservative right-wing spin in the news and from pundits is ruled to be in fact, hate speech, and therefore illegal.
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Well, I'm glad I wasn't the first to say it.
Seriously, while I'm far too liberal to get through even the preview pages without a few forehead-slapping groans, satire is a good time. I've written a short story in which both sides of the political spectrum get what they want, and it's a complete disaster—though, of course, the populace believes itself happy.
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11-22-2005, 12:01 PM
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*chuckle* I'm just waiting for the issue of SUPER-BUSH and his trusty lap dog LIL DICKY in spandex.
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11-22-2005, 12:04 PM
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Re: Re: COMICS FOR CONSERVATIVES: LIBERALITY FOR ALL
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Originally posted by BlueThunderArmy
Well, I'm glad I wasn't the first to say it.
Seriously, while I'm far too liberal to get through even the preview pages without a few forehead-slapping groans, satire is a good time. I've written a short story in which both sides of the political spectrum get what they want, and it's a complete disaster—though, of course, the populace believes itself happy.
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This one is written by a conservative for conservatives. Ain't no satire here. If so, it's purely unintended.
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11-22-2005, 12:08 PM
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Re: Re: Re: COMICS FOR CONSERVATIVES: LIBERALITY FOR ALL
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Originally posted by Thaddy-boy
This one is written by a conservative for conservatives. Ain't no satire here. If so, it's purely unintended.
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Might want to look up "satire," my friend. It may be aimed at conservatives, but if this isn't satire I don't know what you'd like to call it...
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11-22-2005, 12:09 PM
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I got this comic a few weeks ago at Midtown Comics, on release day, while conservative readers who never even heard of it were posting about how it would be hard to find a copy of it in NYC.
The best comparsion I could think of is with the Martha Washington comics by Frank Miller, with the future over-the-top politics, but it is a far comparison. I find the concept very amusing, and I don't know if the parody of right-wing victim's complex is intentional or not. Either way, I thought there were problems with the flow of the story that got in the way of it being as funny as it could have been. I mentioned that on another thread and Mike attributed that to his choice of giving the protagonist a voice, and suggested that the narrative would be a little different in the next issues.
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11-22-2005, 12:10 PM
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A cyber-enhanced G. Gordon Liddy fighting for... presumably freedom in the year 2021 would be 89 years old. Super-soldier serum, anyone?
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11-22-2005, 12:10 PM
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Yay great, a conservative writing a comicbook. Maybe in the book the leaders of F.O.I.L can assault minorities and steal money from the poor to give to big companies that so desperately need it.
Funny thing is,most conservatives have never seen military action so what would they know about being fighters.
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11-22-2005, 12:14 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: COMICS FOR CONSERVATIVES: LIBERALITY FOR ALL
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Originally posted by BlueThunderArmy
Might want to look up "satire," my friend. It may be aimed at conservatives, but if this isn't satire I don't know what you'd like to call it...
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ummm...I did...
"Satire is a literary technique of writing or art which principally ridicules its subject (for example, individuals, organizations, or states) often as an intended means of provoking or preventing change. In Celtic societies, it was thought a bard's satire could have physical effects, similar to a curse. A satirist is one who satirizes. "
Seems pretty clear that, if it wasn't intended as Satire, it isn't. Clearly, that wasn't the intent here, Hannity for one would have to sign off on it for them to use it (entertainment personalities copyright their images, public figures (liddy) are open)
To me, as a right leaning American, this just proves a point I've always believed...Conservatives can't do entertainment. There's a reason everyone in Hollywood is liberal, because their good at this. Conservatives should stick to the board rooms and let liberals write the comics.
Last edited by ThomasC22 : 11-22-2005 at 12:42 PM.
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11-22-2005, 12:22 PM
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My store didn't order as far as I know, but it does sound like a riot. I'm not sure if it's meant to be even slightly straight (and not just wildly, hilarious ridiculously crazy), but cudos to Mackay for getting all the publicity he has!
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11-22-2005, 12:23 PM
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"UN World Government"? Give me a ____ing break.
This preview is ignorant garbage. (And that IS me being nice.)
Last edited by Gordon McAlpin : 11-22-2005 at 12:33 PM.
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11-22-2005, 12:24 PM
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At first I thought this was some kind of Team America-laugh-at-everybody-kind of thing... but the guy seems to be serious!
So yeah, I like human rights and international law, therefore I'm a terrorist and I must be stopped. 
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11-22-2005, 12:28 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: COMICS FOR CONSERVATIVES: LIBERALITY FOR ALL
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Originally posted by ThomasC22
ummm...I did...
"Satire is a literary technique of writing or art which principally ridicules its subject (for example, individuals, organizations, or states) often as an intended means of provoking or preventing change. In Celtic societies, it was thought a bard's satire could have physical effects, similar to a curse. A satirist is one who satirizes. "
Seems pretty clear that, if it wasn't intended as Satire, it isn't. Clearly, that wasn't the intent here, Hannity for one would have to sign off on it for them to use it (entertainment personalities copyright their images, public figures (liddy) are open)
To me, as a right leaning American, this just proves a point I've always believed...Conservatives can't do entertainment. There's a reason everyone in Hollywood is liberal, because their good at this. Conservatives should stick to the board rooms and let liberals right the comics.
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11-22-2005, 12:29 PM
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I don't consider this writer to be a genius or a lunatic. He's just a poor writer. Order this book if it'll appease the readers, I would never want a comic to do poorly, but I just thought this first issue, at least, was just not very good. I thought the concept was absurd when I first read about it a few months back, then when I thought more about the 'threat of ultra-liberalism', I figured that there actually is a story there. This was not it. If this comic was for you, GREAT! If you haven't read it yet, seriously, its not really worth the time you may think it is.
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11-22-2005, 12:30 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: COMICS FOR CONSERVATIVES: LIBERALITY FOR ALL
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Originally posted by ThomasC22
Seems pretty clear that, if it wasn't intended as Satire, it isn't.
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Right.
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Clearly, that wasn't the intent here, Hannity for one would have to sign off on it for them to use it (entertainment personalities copyright their images, public figures (liddy) are open)
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Clearly what wasnt' the intent, that it wasn't intended to be satire, or that it wasn't the intent to not be satire? And wouldn't this be parodying Hannity, thus making him free game?
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11-22-2005, 12:34 PM
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Hmmm....how long before this thread gets REALLY ugly? 
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11-22-2005, 12:38 PM
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From the article:
"To date, whether you agree with the content or not, the comic is a grassroots success story. Mackey reported that his initial Diamond orders were in the neighborhood of 2800 copies, and, as he said earlier, he’s sold at least that many over again directly. Add the totals, and Liberality For All #1 would’ve laded somewhere around 203 on Diamond’s Top 300 chart for October. Mackey said he’s still receiving reorders from Diamond, and that his initial print run on issue #1 was an optimistic 12,000 copies. “Once we saw our Diamond orders, and had a feel for the press that was coming. I’m confident that we’ll sell them all."
Um, exactly where are those alleged 2800 copies on the Diamond Top 300 chart for October? It really doesn't make much difference where it "would've landed" with an approximate 5600 copies when it doesn't even appear on the chart with Diamond's sales figures.
I'm not going to bother dealing with the conservative BS fantasy blather this guy's pushing. Suffice to say, this series is NOT for me.
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11-22-2005, 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Johnny Triangles
Hmmm....how long before this thread gets REALLY ugly?
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Seems like it already did...
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Originally posted by bizarrolike
Funny thing is,most conservatives have never seen military action so what would they know about being fighters.
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All of my time in the military, liberals were in the minority.
Aside from that, I think the idea of telling more conservative stories would be great, but this one was just plain bad!
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11-22-2005, 12:48 PM
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..interesting..
well, for the fact that Newsarama has covered this series, has that let it off the hook from being labeled as an enabler of pinko comics writers?
nah, probably not..
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11-22-2005, 12:48 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: COMICS FOR CONSERVATIVES: LIBERALITY FOR ALL
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Originally posted by bizarrolike
Funny thing is,most conservatives have never seen military action so what would they know about being fighters.
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You may be right in that most Americans have never been in the Military and Conservatives are 50+% of Americans but the fact is that the Military is and always has been overwhelmingly conservative (like 80-to-90%)
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Originally posted by POWRSURG
Clearly what wasnt' the intent, that it wasn't intended to be satire, or that it wasn't the intent to not be satire? And wouldn't this be parodying Hannity, thus making him free game?
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I don’t think you can use someone’s full name when you parody them.
I mean, I’m not claiming to be an expert or anything, the only reason I know this at all is because here in California…well, everywhere but it was news here…a company tried to make a Governor Schwarzenegger bobble-head. The problem was that, while public figures are open, entertainment figures aren’t.
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11-22-2005, 12:49 PM
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I prefer moderates, I mean conservatives are always namecalling anyone who doesn't agree with them, and all liberals do is when conservatives mess stand around screaming "I TOLD YOU SO SEE SEE I TOLD YOU SO!", Spare me! Watching politics is like watching a friggin school yard, with a bunch of spoiled school children. Sides they are all corupt, they all take money from someone.
Sides maybe Kerry meant a more sensitive war, he meant a war that isn't riddled with corruption, incompetence, dead American soldiers, and tortured inmates in Cuba.
Although Kerry was about as strong as fart.
I want a president who is not some religious conservative nut, but not some wishy washy trying to please everyone girly man! gives us a moderate, who isn't afraid to piss people off, but will work for the common man not special interests, and work for the needs of the nation and not his drinking buddies...
maybe I read too many comics.....
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