Reporting by Michael C Lorah
Senior Vice President and Executive Editor Karen Berger announced today at the New York Comicon a new initiative by DC/Vertigo to publish more original graphic novels. On the panel with Berger were Senior Editor Jonathan Vankin, who will, with Joan Hilty, be devoting “99% of his time” to acquiring and editing graphic novels to be published by Vertigo, as well as eight creators who have been published or will be published by Vertigo’s graphic novel line. Also on the panel: Jonathan Ames (
The Alcoholic), Becky Cloonan (
Demo), Joshua Dysart (
Greendale), Dean Haspiel (
The Quitter,
The Alcoholic), Mat Johnson (
Incognegro), Jeff Lemiere (
The Nobody), G. Willow Wilson (
Cairo), and Brian Wood (
Demo).
With the stage having only chairs, one dais, and three microphones, the panelists seemed slightly unsure how to settle themselves, as Berger noted that it was “an odd set up for a panel.” She also remarked, “My voice is so shot, and my ears are so shot, so I have no idea what I sound like.” And it’s only Saturday, she laughed.
Announcing that the panel would focus on Vertigo’s new original graphic novels, Berger’s first slide showed the cover of Mat Johnson and Warren Pleece’s
Incognegro. Asked how many had read the book, only a handful of the audience raised their hands. Berger seemed surprised, since as she stated, the book has received “wonderful reviews” including in The New York Times, which doesn’t “really cover graphic novels, so it was a huge thing.”
Mat Johnson describes the story as being “a noir tale” about an African-American journalist in the south in the 1920s who is able to pass for white to investigate lynchings. “I used to teach African American lit, and it’s based in part on my own experiences of being an African-American who can pass for white. I’m not sure what else to say: Buy my damn book,” he laughed. Haspiel grabbed the microphone, clearly enthused for the book, and told the audience that when editor Vankin told him about the book, “I said you gotta be kidding me. It’s the best title in the world.”
Vertigo will be publishing a new edition of Brian Wood and Becky Cloonan’s
Demo, a series originally serialized monthly and published in a compact format by AiT/PlanetLar. Vertigo will also publish an all-new
Demo miniseries by Wood and Cloonan. Asked how they began their collaboration, Cloonan recalled, “Brian emailed me. He’d seen some of my minicomcs and my work online, and he said, ‘Hey, I’m a writer. W ant to work on something?’” After some laughter, she continued that Wood mentioned
Demo to her right away, but she worked on
Jennie One first, and enjoyed the experience so they decided to create
Demo. Wood noted that the original serialization of
Demo started in late 2003, and he feels very close to the series still. “This is the book that launched me,” he believes, saying that it’s a “pretty big deal” and he’s very pleased to have it out again. The new Vertigo edition will be a full-sized comic book trim and there will be never-seen-before extras in it. A couple dozen readers raised their hands when asked if they’d read
Demo previously, prompting Wood to say that he doesn’t expect anyone to buy the new edition if they have the story already. He also told the audience that he’d just started writing the first issue of the new series “this month. It feels like going back on tour.”
Previously announced, but coming out this September, Jonathan Ames and Dean Haspiel’s
The Alcoholic is a book Berger says she’s “thrilled to be publishing.” Ames’s only other comics experience, Haspiel promoted, was on Smithmag.net, a site publishing true life stories, including
Shooting War. A feature on the site, “Next Door Neighbors,” edited by Haspiel, brings together different teams or cartoonists, and Ames contributed to “Next Door Neighbors.”
Ames explained that he decided to write a graphic novel because one day, when he lived in Brooklyn, while sitting in a diner after a game of basketball, Dean Haspiel “sat down and said I’ve read your stuff, let’s be friends. He really came on strong.” After some laughter, Ames continued, saying that for a number of years, Haspiel said “Let’s do something together.” Ames had never really read or thought much about graphic novels, but recalled that he “always liked R. Crumb’s illustrations with Bukowski’s stories.” While reading
Y: the Last Man, Ames was impressed by the use of cliffhangers, and he came up with an idea for a six-part story about an alcoholic, where each story would end on a cliffhanger – the alcoholic running naked down the street; what happens next issue?! When Vertigo suggested that, as a novelist, he might want to write a single graphic novel, he focused on a tale of “a guy on a bender after a girl breaks his heart… but it’s also his life story.”
Berger said that Ames, an established novelist, adapted to the challenges of working in comics as quickly as anybody from outside of comics that she’d worked with previously. Many other writers, she observed, have trouble getting into the “headspace, thinking visually, writing succinctly,” as required to write comics. She believes that
The Alcoholic is a great book to give to someone who has never read a graphic novel or comic, and applauded Haspiel for bringing the nuances out of Ames’s story. Ames joked that part of his success in adapting to comics was because he wanted to give Haspiel fun things to draw, and he found himself “thinking there’s been no action for three whole pages, I better put something in.” Haspiel laughed, calling Ames “a natural and I really hope you decide to write some more comics."
Next, Cliff Chiang’s character sketches for the comic book adaptation of the 2003 Neil Young concept album
Greendale were displayed. Chiang “is starting right now” on the art for the book, which will not be published until 2009. Neil Young, Berger said, “loves Cliff’s work.” The coolest email she’s ever received, she told everyone, came earlier this week, from Neil Young. It read: “Dear Karen, these rock.” After touring the album for all of 2003, Young approached Vertigo two and a half years ago about adapting it to comics. “He’s very savvy in writing, politics and what’s going on in the world, and he really respects the form,” Berger said, adding that “Greendale is more than an album. He’s created a mythology, characters that haven’t even seen the light yet.” Young is “very involved on this.”
Dysart joked that the genesis of the project goes back to when he and Neil were doing coke backstage at The Band’s final concert, the movie
The Last Waltz, before admitting that he was only six then. Though less than ten people in the audience expressed familiarity with the album, Dysart says that the story will be very accessible. “We didn’t just tell the same story,” he said. The graphic novel will keep to the beats and the characters, but it is a synthesis of his own, Karen Berger and Neil Young’s sensibilities. It tells the story of Sun Green in Greendale, California, and how she becomes a political activist on the eve of the Iraq War. After Vankin offered him the opportunity to work on the script, Dysart was “really excited,” noting that he wanted to tell a “people story.” He laughed that “Neil was really excited to do a comic book, and really wanted to do eco-superheroes.” He’s just started conversing with Chiang about the book, and he already considers Chiang “the smartest artist in comics.” Describing himself as “terribly excited” to see the final pages, Dysart said that Chiang has come up with a very powerful approach to the story and its themes.
Berger added that “Josh, as a writer, has really gone to another level. For Neil Young to be interested in working with comics is a great thrill. He’s a great storyteller.”
Acknowledging that her responsibilities as Executive Editor occupy most of her time, Berger explained that she rarely has time to edit series personally. She’s mostly involved in procuring new projects and helping develop new projects. For G. Willow Wilson and MK Perker’s new monthly series,
Air, she said, “Every now and then, I meet a writer and I’m really impressed by their craft” and she’ll say to her staff, “This one I want.” Approximately a dozen people raised their hands to say that they’d read Wilson and Perker’s previous collaboration, the graphic novel
Cairo.
Wilson said of the new series: “
Air is about a stewardess who’s afraid of heights,” and she is sucked into a hijacking plot where she discovers another side of the world of flight. The series is “kind of wacky and magical and cool, and she has abilities she didn’t know she had.” She amused the audience with a story about a conversation she’d had the night before, in a bar after the show, with
100 Bullets writer Brian Azzarello. Azzarello, she said, described the series as “about a girl who’s drowning but learns to fly. It’s beautiful.” “He’d had a few beers,” Wilson laughed, but “I wanted to use that line.” Wilson and Berger were very excited to have a series with a “kick-ass female lead character.” The first issue ships in August. “If you liked Cairo, come back for more,” Wilson suggested, and Berger let everybody know that
Air will be previewed in issues of the current Vertigo monthly titles in the “next month or so.”
Karen Berger then explained that Vertigo will be expanding their graphic novel efforts. Although they’ve published two to four original graphic novels a year in the past, “including terrific, critically acclaimed work, like
The Quitter,
Incognegro,
Cairo and
Sentences,” Vertigo wanted to expand this area now. In addition to Jonathan Vankin devoting most of his time to the new initiative, editor Joan Hilty, who started at DC as Berger’s assistant ten years ago before moving into the DC Universe, “moved back upstairs a couple days ago” (to Vertigo editorial) so that she could devote her time to the graphic novel line as well. Berger continued, saying that they want to reach farther into memoirs, semi-autobiographical material, and non-fiction. They’re hoping creators will approach them with work that might’ve previously only found a home with companies such as Pantheon, Top Shelf or First Second. We “want the word out there that we’re in it for the long haul,” she stated.
One of the new graphic novels announced was
Luna Park, by historical fiction writer Kevin Baker and Danijl Zezelj, whose work has previously been seen in
Loveless and
El Diablo. The artwork shown was just a preview of books that “are really just starting out,” letting readers know that many of them will not be seen until 2009. Baker is a “brilliant writer,” Berger said, noting that
Luna Park will be his first graphic novel. Like Jonathan Ames, he took to the form very well. The story is about a Russian immigrant in “a modern-day, sleazy Coney Island.” A hitman for the Russian mob, he lives with his girlfriend, a tarot card reader, and is haunted by ghosts of his own life and Russian history. He relives historical moments that categorize Russian history. Berger also said, “You get to see Coney Island present day and in its past glory. There is some time shifting, but it’s very grounded. Very epic.”
Hate’s Peter Bagge is working on a book titled
Second Lives, about college friends who correspond with each other over the years. When they decide to meet ten years later, they realize that each of them has made up stories about their own lives, so nobody’s sure what’s true about the other. With internet and role-playing games, people make up their own lives all the time now, she added. Describing his art as “kind of goofy,” Berger praised Bagge’s writing and the script’s exploration of identity, “what’s real and what’s not.”
Xerix-award winner and recent Eisner Award nominee, Jeff Lemiere is working on a new graphic novel
The Nobody, which will take the protagonist of H.G. Wells’
The Invisible Man and “bring him into the modern world.” Lemiere said, “I like to explore small, rural communities. Although his previous books looked at the bright side of small towns, this book gets into the prejudices and claustrophobia of small town life. The core of the story, he told, is about the Invisible Man’s friendship with a teen girl, casting them both as outsiders.
Berger also announced hardcover editions of Paul Pope’s
Heavy Liquid and
Y: the Last Man. The
Y editions will collect two softcover books into a single, oversize volume.
Opening the panel to audience questions, Berger confirmed that Vertigo has no work lined with
Y artist Pia Guerra. “We’d like to,” she said.
Asked how editors find new creators for graphic novels, Vankin said that the look online, spread the word amongst the comics community and put out the word in literary circles. Attending panels “like this one” also allows them to reach cartoonists who don’t realize Vertigo is open to new projects. He said that Vertigo is looking for new properties, including works in various stage of completion, “although we like to develop stories from the ground up.” He hopes not to be deluged, but “you never know.” The next pitch “could be the next Peter Bagge, or Charles Burns, or Harvey Pekar. Come to us if you’re an agent, creator, anything.” Vertigo’s mission, he added, has always been to publish the best comics, no matter where they come from.
Asked if you need to have previously published work, Vankin admitted, “I’m open. If you’re working on a project, show me something you’ve done already. It doesn’t have to be a big book from Pantheon. It can be a webcomic. I want to see how good you are and whether I’m interested in what you have to say.” He suggested that it might help to have an agent, but in terms of reading a pitch, he wants creators to “show me what you got. If this is good, let’s talk.” Vertigo’s approach to graphic novels is halfway between comics traditional methods of publishing and traditional book publisher’s procedures.
A fan asked if Vertigo would collect David Lapham’s self-published series
Stray Bullets in light of Lapham’s working with the publisher on the graphic novel
Silverfish and the new monthly series
Young Liars. Berger said, “We’ve talked to David Lapham, but he wants to keep it totally to himself. And we’re fine with that.”
Berger confirmed that Vertigo has nothing else in the pipeline with artists Niko Henrichon (
Pride of Baghdad) or Enrique Breccia (
Swamp Thing). Dysart noted that Breccia is working on several volumes for a European publisher.
One concerned fan wondered if Vertigo’s focus on original graphic novels meant they will be moving away from publishing monthly titles. “Not at all,” Berger said. Comparing it to television and feature films, she explained that some stories are best told episodically, month to month, and then collected. Other stories work as a great big graphic novel. Vertigo is still “very committed to the monthly form,” and will continue to publish collected editions that reach audiences in bookstores and comic shops.
Citing
American Virgin as an example, a reader asked if cancelled monthly series might return as series of graphic novels. Vertigo is committed to finishing
American Virgin and collecting the entire series, if the audience is not big enough to support the series in monthly or in trade, “it’s hard to go to an original graphic novel format with that series. We haven’t had large enough orders to support the book as a monthly or as a trade.”
Berger also confirmed that Vertigo has no current plans for any more Absolute editions after
Absolute Sandman vol. 4 this fall.
Y: The Last Man is getting a deluxe hardcover treatment, but Berger is cautious about committing to a $100 price-tag. After the audience’s loud applause at the idea of an
Absolute Preacher, Berger said, “Okay, I’ll take that back to the office,” but offered no promises.
Vankin took the opportunity to engage the audience in a conversation about Vertigo’s efforts to promote their new titles. “You’re the smart readers, and I know you like” our titles, Vankin said, yet he was surprised that relatively few people in the crowd had read several of the books, even books that sold very well for Vertigo. When discussing online promotions in the comic book community, Berger said, “We’ve talked to the Newsarama people more. They’ll be doing an article on this panel.” Fans felt that Vertigo titles were often given passing mention in various places, but lost in the noise of superhero news.
One fan mentioned Vertigo getting coverage in
Publisher’s Weekly, which Berger said she appreciates and loves, but because
PW is a trade magazine, she’s not sure that the coverage reaches as much of the reading audience as they’d like. Mat Johnson pointed out that he got comic book press before
Incognegro came out, but after the book dropped, most of the coverage came from mainstream outlets and blogs.
A young woman explained that she frequents a comic shop and reads bogs, yet she only got into Vertigo’s titles when her boyfriend let her read
Y: The Last Man. She added that she was very excited about
Incognegro, but had “just heard about it for the first time here.” She continued, saying, “My friends mostly read manga and don’t really know American comics outside DC or Marvel.” Friends, she remarked, thought that
Y was a superhero comic, “because all American comics are about that.”
As a means of promotion, Dysart joked that fans should wear sandwich boards at their local comics shops.
Incognegro did receive an eight-page preview in several Vertigo monthlies, Berger said. She asked readers to check the Vertigo website for updates and said that they will, as one fan suggested, “consider the newsletter. It’s a cool idea.”
Changing subjects, Haspiel asked how many readers read webcomics. Approximately thirty readers raised their hands. “Okay, that’s all,” Haspiel finished.
Release dates for most of the books are not set, as they are too early in their development, Berger explained.
The Alcoholic will be out in early September, and she expects Lemiere’s
The Nobody to be out earlier than the other titles “because he’s super fast from what I’ve been told.”
The long-rumored Garth Ennis-Steve Dillon collaboration
City Lights is still not on Vertigo’s radar. “We’d love to do the book,” Berger said, “but it’s not something being worked on. Hopefully some day.”
A fan asked why Vertigo titles don’t receive more press in mainstream outlets, saying that she discovered
Y through an article in The New York Times. Vertigo does get a lot of coverage in
Entertainment Weekly, Berger mentioned, and she praised the publicity department for pitching as many articles as possible, but not a lot of pieces are picked up. Berger said she’d love to see Vertigo covered in
Time,
Newsweek or
Spin every week or every month, but because the industry has grown so large, other companies and books are competing for the same limited space. She expects to do more online promotions.
There is no news about potential movies based on Vertigo properties, Berger let everyone know. “Hollywood is such a crazy place. I have no idea how films every get made. Nothing happens, and suddenly there’s a movie.”
Watchmen is happening “in a big way, of course,” but otherwise, several screenplays have been written, but nothing’s been green lit.
A last fan to address the panel told the Vertigo staff and creators that they should be proud of creating a line of comics that can bring new readers into the industry, which Berger felt was the right note to end the panel on.