by Vaneta Rogers
For Mark Waid, it's as much a story of new beginnings as it is a tale of an ending.
While Newsarama contacted Waid about the news that issue #236 will be his last as writer of
The Flash, Waid also talked to us about the opportunities he's finding as the new editor-in-chief for Boom! Studios, a position
announced last year in San Diego. With the success of his three-issue
Potter's Field mini-series from Boom!, Waid told us he's hoping to do more of that series, as well as pursuing other opportunities, including the company's latest movie property,
The Godfather.
Waid was part of a surprise
Flash relaunch in July with artist Daniel Acuna, after the 14-issue run of
Flash: The Fastest Man Alive ended abruptly in June upon the death of then-Flash Bart Allen and the return of former-Flash Wally West to the DCU. The change was something DC had apparently been planning secretly for awhile, even faking solicitations and covers to hide the title change. Since the relaunch, the series has focused on Wally and his family, including two super-powered and quickly aging twin children named Jai and Iris.
After this month's issue #236 by Waid, the Flash series will have a fill-in issue
written by Keith Champagne in February, then will be taken over with Issue #238 in March
by writer Tom Peyer, whom DC has named regular series writer, along with current artist Freddie Williams II.
But fans of Waid's superhero work shouldn't be too discouraged by his departure from Flash and his foray into creator-owned titles. Waid said he is still working on
The Brave and the Bold, the ongoing DC Comics series he's been writing for the last year with George Perez on art. Just how long? And why choose to stay on that series, but leave
The Flash? We found out...
Newsarama: So it's time to leave
The Flash behind?
Mark Waid: Yeah. Between trying to keep
Brave and the Bold moving and all the new duties at Boom!, something had to give.
I'm going to miss working with Freddie, whose enthusiasm was never diminished no matter how many panels I crammed onto a page. Writer-wise, the book's in terrific hands with Tom Peyer, about whom Grant Morrison has said to me more than once, "It's a tragedy he's not writing more DC comics." Tom's probably the best writer out there that no one knows about and hopefully this'll make him the household name he ought to be.
NRAMA: We talked to him yesterday, and he seemed pretty enthusiastic about the title. But just to clarify, you made the decision to leave because of time constraints?
MW: Yeah. Of course, it would have been a harder decision to make had the general reaction to my return to Flash been a little more positive. [laughs]
NRAMA: That made it easier to choose what had to give, huh?
MW: I don't know. You know, I just think, in retrospect, the stars were not in alignment in a lot of ways. I kind of knew we were in trouble right off the bat when I so loved Daniel Acuna's artwork. I
so loved it. And I was
so unprepared for the insane volume of hatred from the online community about how much they just despised his work on the title. I knew at that point, I thought, "Oh god, we're in trouble. Once more, the online community has me questioning what I
thought was good." Which I shouldn't let happen, but it's hard not to do when the volume is that loud.
And at this moment in time, I just ... in terms of superhero work, I feel frozen. I kind of... I feel like I'm momentarily out of step with what fandom wants because I don't get it. The same voices that are screaming that we gave Flash a wife and kids and family, because they say that's not what Flash is, are the same people who are screaming that they've broken up Mary Jane and Peter Parker. "How dare you take his family away!" I'm like, wait! Wait! What? Which way is it? So... growth and change
good... or growth and change
bad?
NRAMA: When you went into this, did you feel like growth and change were good for this title? Because I remember hearing you in a panel at a convention defending the idea of comics characters
not aging.
MW: I
still defend that. I still defend that no one wants to see an 18-year-old Bart Simpson. But at the same time, I also believe very strongly in playing the cards that you're dealt. And Wally had two infant children and a wife.
And you know, I thought Wally was an exception to this because Wally was the one character in all of comics that we've been able to watch grow up with some consistency, without any sort of weird continuity blips or reboots of any sizeable nature. And the whole Flash line has been about legacy, about passing the identity along from Jay Garrick to Barry to Wally. So to me, the book is about legacy and is about heritage and family. I felt like that's what the comic has always been about.
So given that when I was approached, I had a wife and two infant children to deal with, it only made sense to me to
not drop a safe on them immediately, so that's why I kind of took the gig. I was terrified that if I didn't step in to protect Wally and his family, the next edict would be to [laughs], you know, have Dr. Light rape the children and beat Linda to death or something, and it would be the next Dark Flash. And no one wants that.
NRAMA: But isn't there a lot of good in what you accomplished on the title, establishing this new status for Jai and Iris and the Flash?
MW: I would think so. I would hope so. And I think I'll feel that way once I get some distance from it. And once people stop hurling tomatoes at me when I walk down the street. [laughs]
No, I'm not upset or bickering. I really don't want to come across as bitter. I hope people know, that's not what I'm trying to say. I'm just genuinely confused. I'm not trying to say that sardonically or snipe-ishly. I really am confused by this.
NRAMA: I remember, when we first talked about you taking this title, I asked more than once about you "going back" to the Flash, and you really avoided talking about that. You kept emphasizing that you were trying to do something new and different and
not "go back."
MW: Right. I honestly wanted it to be something new. I can't really imagine why people would want me to do the same thing I did years ago when there are already 100 issues of that printed for them to choose from. And again, I'm trying to say this honestly, without being bitter or sarcastic about this or anything. In the market, at this moment, judging by what's successful at both Marvel and DC, it just seems like the market is for stuff that is familiar. That hasn't always been the case, and that probably won't always be the case, but at this moment, it feels very strongly that what everyone wants is a sense of familiarity. Does that make any sense?
NRAMA: It does. But the response to that would be, OK, something new and different might not sell well this time. But so what? Some of what you try does sell well. You just came off
52!
MW: [laughs] I know. I know. And it's not so much that I care about how well the book sells. It's really more important that I feel good about having my name on it.
NRAMA: Exactly. So...
MW: Well, at the same time it's a little dispiriting, because we're not writing in a complete vacuum.
NRAMA: That's understandable.
MW: And don't get me wrong -- there are hundreds of really good, vibrant, exciting and innovative comics being done right now. I'm just not sure they're being done in the superhero field as much. There are still innovative superhero comics out there. But that which seems to be the most widely received in superhero comics right now is not necessarily the most innovative stuff. And that's one of the reasons why Boom! Studios was very attractive to me, because that's a safer harbor for me right now. It feels like there's a lot more latitude to be able to do things. And if I don't feel like I'm clicking with the superhero market right this second, I can either whine and bitch about it or I can go create comics in some other genre for a little while. I'd rather do that.
NRAMA: OK, we'll get to your work at Boom! in a minute. But just to confirm while we're on the subject of superhero comics, you're leaving
The Flash, but you're staying with
Brave and the Bold, correct? Or are you only on it for 12 issues?
MW: Actually, I'm going to stick around awhile longer than that. I'll do it as long as it's fun.
NRAMA: As long as it's fun?
MW: As long as it's fun. The moment it needs to be in service to nine other crossovers or we're not telling complete stories; I'm going to be banging my head against the pavement. But for the time being, they seem to be content with just letting us go off in our own direction.
NRAMA: Your artist on the March and April issues of
Brave and the Bold is going to be Jerry Ordway?
MW: Yes. Apparently George had to move on to another project that he's doing at DC, which broke his and my heart, because we were both looking forward to having a 12-issue run. But Jerry was the first guy I asked for to fill those shoes. Jerry is a phenomenal talent and that he's not doing a monthly book at DC is a crime. And George and I both agree that we couldn't have found a better guy to do the last two chapters.
NRAMA: And this is a two-issue story, right?
MW: Yeah, it's a two-issue stint. Issue #7-#12 all ties together. So while they've been pretty much stand-alone stories, they're also sort of contributing toward a larger arc.
NRAMA: Similar to the first six.
MW: Yeah. But you could say that the story in issues #11 and #12 is our first real two-parter with a genuine unresolved cliffhanger in #11 that pays off in #12.
NRAMA: Anything you want to tell people about the issues coming up in
Brave and the Bold?
MW: Issue #11 is Superman and Ultraman and the Crime Syndicate, but it's also Challengers of the Unknown and Metamorpho, and it's also like six other guys, including the Earth-3 Mr. Mxyzptlk, who is becoming my new favorite character.

And Issue #12 is like "Brave and the Bold Presents the DC Universe." It's a big slam-bang finale that guest stars over a dozen of the characters that we've either seen before in the run or some of them that we've not seen yet.
NRAMA: So there's hope for those of us that haven't seen our favorite obscure character show up yet.
MW: Maybe. It's a tough balancing act, that book, because you want to make sure that there are marquee characters. Because, again, as I keep insisting, as much as
I would love to buy an issue of
Brave and the Bold with Adam Strange and the Metal Men, no one else wants to. So you have to have your marquee characters up there, but at the same time, the fun of it is trying to find ways to co-star or guest star the odder characters that can't necessarily carry their own stories but should be in the book anyway.
NRAMA: OK, let's talk about Boom! now. For Joe Newsarama-reader, explain exactly what it is you do as E-I-C for Boom!
MW: Wow...
NRAMA: I know. I'm sure there's a lot in there...
MW: There is a lot in there.
NRAMA: Just an overview?
MW: Boom is essentially, at this point, as a far as the publishing end of it -- and the publishing end is just part of the bigger picture as is the film producers and media developers or whatever -- but the publishing end of it is a mixture of creator-owned and creator-shared material and anthology stuff like the
Zombie Tales book or the
Cthulhu Tales book. So half the time I'm spending just working with freelancers generating material for the anthology books and half the time I'm spending with some of the best writers and artists I know, trying to come up with new properties we can launch in 2008.
NRAMA: So do you have a lot of properties launching in 2008?
MW: We do. At this moment, I don't think we can announce anything. But I've been talking to everyone I know who's not under exclusive contract. I've been calling in favors right and left. This sounds like puffery, but it's true: We really do have a lot of cool stuff that we're going to be announcing when we get to the spring.
NRAMA: Then we'll have to talk again in the spring.
MW: We will!
NRAMA: Do you have more of your own projects coming up for the publisher?
MW: I will be taking the first pass at
The Godfather. And that, I'm stoked about. That material is iconic. That material is part of the American pop cultural landscape, and that's a lot of fun to delve into. It's fun to write crime, and it's fun to write villains, and it's fun to write morally ambiguous characters. So that's the plan for the near future: Doing that, doing more
Potter's Field, then my pick of other creator-owned and creator-shared stuff I've got that I haven't yet done.
It's still kind of sinking in to me that I'm at a place in my career that if I decide tomorrow that I really, really want to do a story about cowboy mimes, or whatever, or pirates in space, I can just do it. And no one can stop me.
NRAMA: That's exciting, isn't it?
MW: It's very exciting! I've been a little slow out of the gate on that because a big part of taking on the Boom! editor-in-chief job was to get the trains there running on time and move everything along there. But now that we seem to have a much tighter grip on scheduling and the future of the company there, then it's time to start exploring what I can be doing on the creator level.
NRAMA: And you said we're getting more
Potter's Field?
MW: When Paul Azaceta's schedule opens up a little bit, we're going to do two more. At least two more, that way we can have a nice trade paperback out there for people. Beyond that, the property's got legs. I'm hoping to do as much as Paul has time to do.
NRAMA: And then the next thing we'll see from you will be the pirate mimes, right?
MW: [laughs] Yeah! Pirate Mimes in Space! That's my next thing. And playing baseball. That's my next gig.