OMD Part 4 -- Spoilers and Reactions

jeffgamer · 12-25-2007, 10:08 PM

Well, folks, I have been told that it is no longer speculation...they've dumped the marriage, and a whole lot more. Don't read further if you don't want to know....

I know of two or three people who received their issues early via direct order from Marvel. One of them had given me a quick synopsis of the last issue. Here it is:

Ok I will be mr spolier but you might not believe it as it is SO bad. Pete wakes up alone in the bed to find MJ in that bathroom puking I guess (the art & story telling are so bad who can tell what is up). First 3 1/4s was pete & MJ talking over accepting the offer. They come off as so dumb with neither asking the ultimate question, what would May want which we all know she would want then to stay married. So then the devil appears, they say yes cuz... well theres no believable reason they would. Then as just a freebie the devil tosses in that he is gonna rub out the demasking of peter parker. MJ whispers something to the devil to get an easy way out if the writters need it later. Then after they agree the devil says what I predicted, hes rubbing out the child they would have had in the future,,, UGH, Then... poof! Pete wakes up alone, goes downstair to ol aunt may making wheat cakes then run off to a party for .. HARRY OSBORN!!!! Yes everything is totally as if the last 20 years hasnt happened (in fact last panel shows them making a toast & you can see petes web shooters peeking out just to say screw you payed to read is worthless now). It is so much worse than I expected it to be. They have just turned Amazing into the start of Ultimate Spider-man. Its the worst time ever in Amazing Spider-man history.

I know a lot of the pro-marriage fans were already planning to dump Amazing if the marriage was retconned away. The question is, how about all of you who were sitting on the fence?

Everyone who is planning to dump, do it this week (wait until you receive the issue if you must). BOMBARD Marvel's phone lines with cancellations...at the very least, cancel Amazing...and cancel more if you are so inclined. Marvel will refund you the rest of your subscription. Those of you who plan to continue reading but find this offensive, bombard them with complaints. Mail letters via USPS, too. Heck, I'm going to cancel subscriptions TWICE...once by phone (to make it happen more quickly), and then once by mailing in "NO THANKS" on all the subscription renewal letters I've received over the past few months (in their nice postage-paid envelopes). And bring in your off-line friends, too, if they feel likewise...don't let them think they're alone in this.

Jeez Louise...trading a loving wife for Harry Osborn. Trading character development and powers development for editorial nostalgia. Trading deep connections and cheesecake for satanic connections and wheatcakes. Insert multiple curse words here...

VinnyPic · 12-25-2007, 10:13 PM

HAHAHHAHHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHH AHAHA
Accept your misery.

Jim Thompson · 12-25-2007, 10:14 PM

Please tell me no one is going to be "shocked" by these developments. Marvel is in the process of destroying all their long time characters. Why leave Spidey out of the mix?

Edogawa1983 · 12-25-2007, 10:17 PM

sounds really bad, I really don't have much to say, even though we know it's coming it's still beyond belief...

How the hell they gonna explain the last 20 years of Spider-Man history?
how about the unmasking, what about everything that happened?

GotReekstah? · 12-25-2007, 10:23 PM

I'm giving the first month of Spidey books a pass.. I'll pick them up, just so I can base my reaction on the actual quality of the books.. but I don't like this whole storyline at all. Maybe it'll win me over, maybe it won't.. I'll at least give it a shot. But no sir.

I don't like it at all.

EDIT: I have to admit though.. I do like the idea of Harry being back. But that doesn't make up for all the other crap.

Wait until Jericho sees this thread!

I was wrong, J!

Kaji712 · 12-25-2007, 10:23 PM

This is worse than the Clone Saga. And a big F U to long time fans. This, this better than them just getting a divorce? I mean really? Killing MJ is better than this. Why did the even bring up the child again, that was basically forgotten to everyone except some fans, (similar to the third Summers brother).

AND

the unmasking... seriously... It just happened. So literally everything thats happened since right before the wedding is worthless. No wonder why JMS didn't want his name on this.

Impulse2k1 · 12-25-2007, 10:24 PM

Man if this is all true I don't want to hear not a another word about Retcon Punch Superboy ever again.....EVER!!!!

Edogawa1983 · 12-25-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Impulse2k1

Man if this is all true I don't want to hear not a another word about Retcon Punch Superboy ever again.....EVER!!!!

I thought we already reached that with No More Mutants.

GotReekstah? · 12-25-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaji712

This is worse than the Clone Saga. And a big F U to long time fans. This, this better than them just getting a divorce? I mean really? Killing MJ is better than this. Why did the even bring up the child again, that was basically forgotten to everyone except some fans, (similar to the third Summers brother).

AND

the unmasking... seriously... It just happened. So literally everything thats happened since right before the wedding is worthless. No wonder why JMS didn't want his name on this.

The fan backlash from this could cost Joe Q. his job if they don't play this right.

Xanrn · 12-25-2007, 10:31 PM

I give it high odds the guy is lying.

But ____ that ____, 20 years gone is utter ________, the highly superior organic webshooters gone is crap.

Also how in the name of ____ is Spidey still going to be on the Avengers after that ____.

Their throwing out 20 years of Peter actually getting respect from his Peers.

As I said I think the guy is lying cause that is so ____ing ridiculus it would screw the living ____ out of the rest of the universe, I mean ____ing rewriting 20 years of History, 20 years of Spidey dominated history.

How many events will be changed, Civil War, House of M.

Destruction of Character.

Destruction of what has become one of the most goddam unique powerset in comics.

GotReekstah? · 12-25-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Xanrn

I give it high odds the guy is lying.

But ____ that ____, 20 years gone is utter ________, the highly superior organic webshooters gone is crap.

Also how in the name of ____ is Spidey still going to be on the Avengers after that ____.

Their throwing out 20 years of Peter actually getting respect from his Peers.

As I said I think the guy is lying cause that is so ____ing ridiculus it would screw the living ____ out of the rest of the universe, I mean ____ing rewriting 20 years of History, 20 years of Spidey dominated history.

How many events will be changed, Civil War, House of M.

Destruction of Character.

Destruction of what has become one of the most goddam unique powerset in comics.

I don't think this would necessarily mess with the overall history of Marvel.. they could easily just explain that the details of Spidey's life changed, but he still did all the stuff that he did in the overall 616, and thus, he's still in the Avengers and whatnot..

Edogawa1983 · 12-25-2007, 10:36 PM

isn't Dr. Strange suppose to protect the world from stuff like this? he failed, for the 2nd time, oh yeah..... he's a Skrull, I forgot.

Spyderco · 12-25-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GotReekstah?

The fan backlash from this could cost Joe Q. his job if they don't play this right.

Yeah right. Don't be such a drama queen.

Kaji712 · 12-25-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GotReekstah?

The fan backlash from this could cost Joe Q. his job if they don't play this right.

I just don't understand what happened with Joe Q. He came on and ditched the comic code, brought on New X-Men, Origin, Alias, Runaways, JMS on Spider-Man, started dead is dead etc. Then started doing events, variant covers, people die and come back, and everything. What happened? House of M was an interesting idea that didn't play out well in the after. Civil War was good enough. But this. This has been a boring story, that is literally insulting. So not only are they going to change 20 years of history, but also the unmasking which just happened. Joe Q is liar.

rod160 · 12-25-2007, 10:43 PM

Wow just when I had just gotten used to the idea of BND I think I'm done with Spider-man for a little while. Though I will keep reading the New Avengers. This whole event just feels likea kick in the teeth. I'll wait and come back to Spider-man in about a year.

Man talk about a let down. It's like marvel is killing another character

GLG · 12-25-2007, 10:50 PM

Well, bringing back Harry was a good idea at least. Everything else... notsomuch.

I just hope the resulting fallout from this doesn't somehow get pinned on Steve Wacker or the writers of BND. This is Joe Q's baby.

mightytev · 12-25-2007, 10:50 PM

UGH. So PISSED.

So this undoes Aunt May finding out about Peter, the unmasking, and the new powersets? The new powerset had barely been touched since it was introduced, why get rid of it? And Auny May finding out was a great development in both her and Peter's characters.

STUPID STUPID STUPID.

Moe Hailstone · 12-25-2007, 10:58 PM

I'm not a big Spider-Man fan, and haven't read anything of his since the mini he had during that garbage called "House of M". I can understand how Spider-Man fans would be upset over this.

Anything that erases so much past history is a huge insult to those writers/artists since their material doesn't mean anything now. I would drop some Marvel books to show my support to Spider-Man fans, but I've already dropped a few and I'm only getting about four books right now.

Psivage · 12-25-2007, 10:58 PM

I wonder what is changed. Marvel should do a Handbook of Brand New Day going through the history of Spider-Man now.

But I do agree this suck the big one, and then it swallowed.

Zechs · 12-25-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Thompson

Please tell me no one is going to be "shocked" by these developments. Marvel is in the process of destroying all their long time characters. Why leave Spidey out of the mix?

Cept Cap, Astonishing X-Men, or C and D. Brubaker hasn't let us down EVER nor has Joss and Fab.

Buy Amazing Spider-Girl.. the marriage and twenty years of stories still exist there.

GotReekstah? · 12-25-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Spyderco

Yeah right. Don't be such a drama queen.

LOL.. I'm not being a drama queen, I'm just throwing that out there. Something like this could be horrible for business for Marvel if it doesn't go the way they plan.. and honestly, since I haven't seen ANY positive reaction to it thus far.. I don't see how it CAN go their way.

GotReekstah? · 12-25-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaji712

I just don't understand what happened with Joe Q. He came on and ditched the comic code, brought on New X-Men, Origin, Alias, Runaways, JMS on Spider-Man, started dead is dead etc. Then started doing events, variant covers, people die and come back, and everything. What happened? House of M was an interesting idea that didn't play out well in the after. Civil War was good enough. But this. This has been a boring story, that is literally insulting. So not only are they going to change 20 years of history, but also the unmasking which just happened. Joe Q is liar.

I really think they're just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks at this point.

What's sad is, they're still more interesting than DC (outside of the GL books) at this moment.

Zechs · 12-25-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GotReekstah?

The fan backlash from this could cost Joe Q. his job if they don't play this right.

Ah I feel like it's the late 90s all over again with Howard Mackie and John Bryne BACK at the helm.

Moe Hailstone · 12-25-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GotReekstah?

LOL.. I'm not being a drama queen, I'm just throwing that out there. Something like this could be horrible for business for Marvel if it doesn't go the way they plan.. and honestly, since I haven't seen ANY positive reaction to it thus far.. I don't see how it CAN go their way.

It will only be horrible for Marvel IF the people who complain about this ACTUALLY speak with their wallets and stop buying the books.

Now, if the sales continue to stay the same (or maybe even higher), then you're seeing a bunch of hypocrites saying "I'm not buying the book anymore", but in reality they are.

Johnny Triangles · 12-25-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaji712

I just don't understand what happened with Joe Q. He came on and ditched the comic code, brought on New X-Men, Origin, Alias, Runaways, JMS on Spider-Man, started dead is dead etc. Then started doing events, variant covers, people die and come back, and everything. What happened? House of M was an interesting idea that didn't play out well in the after. Civil War was good enough. But this. This has been a boring story, that is literally insulting. So not only are they going to change 20 years of history, but also the unmasking which just happened. Joe Q is liar.

I think what happened to Joe Q is the loss of Bill Jemas. Now more than ever I'm convinced Jemas was the brains behind that golden age of comics.

Geez, if I wanted to read retcons this retarded and poorly planned out, I'd be a DC fan.