New Warriors #6 [SPOILERS!!]

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by kamikazi

Do we know where Tempest or Blackwing's equipment was "borrowed" from? So far, we know:

-Longstrike = Stilt Man
-Ripcord = Constrictor
-Wondra = Pym Particles
-Skybolt = Beetle
-Phaser = Iron Man

And do we know if Decibel's powers are from his Apocalypse upgrade, or technological?

Jubilee's using super-strength gauntlets as her main "Wondra" power - the shrink-balls seem to be a generic weapon since Thrash used them on the cops later on. Phaser appears to be using the Wizard's anti-grav discs.

Otherwise, I think Blackwing's kit is mostly a pre-2004-style Falcon flight pack. And, no, we don't know yet if Chamber's Apocapowers are latent (in which case he's using tech) or active (in which case he's not).

[Edogawa1983]

Originally Posted by kamikazi

Do we know where Tempest or Blackwing's equipment was "borrowed" from? So far, we know:

-Longstrike = Stilt Man
-Ripcord = Constrictor
-Wondra = Pym Particles
-Skybolt = Beetle
-Phaser = Iron Man

And do we know if Decibel's powers are from his Apocalypse upgrade, or technological?

Wondra also have some kind of strength glove
Decibel's power is tech, some kind of sonic gun.

[Mindblower]

Originally Posted by Edogawa1983

Wondra also have some kind of strength glove
Decibel's power is tech, some kind of sonic gun.

I think we're supposed to find out more about where his powers stem from next issue. Jon Malin said he gets to draw to first appearance of his power source.

[agentX78]

Originally Posted by Edogawa1983

Wondra also have some kind of strength glove
Decibel's power is tech, some kind of sonic gun.

Does Decibel have a gun in his mouth because every pic i've seen him useing his powers his mouth is wide open and sound waves comming out of it.........

[Edogawa1983]

Originally Posted by agentX78

Does Decibel have a gun in his mouth because every pic i've seen him useing his powers his mouth is wide open and sound waves comming out of it.........

I think it's actually a device on his neck, and he activate it by opening his mouth.

[kamikazi]

Originally Posted by motteditor

I think this has been answered in the affirmative before (though I can't remember for sure), but are we going to be seeing some reaction from some of the original Warriors?

Solicit for #7:

After narrowly escaping death at the hands of the all-new Zodiac, former X-Man Sofia Mantega decides to get back into the super hero game and takes up membership with the new New Warriors. But after learning what's in store for her, will she want to stick around? And what do the old New Warriors have to say about the new team’s exploits?

[speedbaldwin]

Originally Posted by Edogawa1983

Wondra also have some kind of strength glove

Wondra's gloves are the Wizards's wonder gloves, which I guess is wear the name "Wondra" comes from.

[Kevin Grevioux]

Hey All!

Here are some of the answers to your questions:

1. As for why there are so many ex-mutants on the team, that's the way Marvel wanted it. They had a good amount of mutant characters who had just been de-powered and wanted to find a cool way to use them again instead of "sitting the bench". The New Warriors provided a perfect opportunity for that.

Now, I know a lot of folks don't like what they call "editorially driven" comics, but the editors are NOT the enemy. In fact, Joe, Axel and Daniel are the heroes of the book and have been supportive of what I've been doing. Guiding me along the way and giving me opportunities to do some cool things and some experimental things. Just like film and working with producers I know that working in comics is a collaborative process. And you know what? IT WORKS. Marvel might've chosen the direction or the characters, but it is up to ME to execute it. And if I'm not doing it well, or you guys disagree with what I've done, feel free to let me have it. That's what I'm here for.

2. As far as the pacing goes, we thought it best to build a slow mystery as to the identity of Night Thrasher and the other cast members, using Sofia as our POV character. We're taking a different approach with this series than the previous incarnations given the fact that the landscape of the Marvel universe is different now because of SHRA.

A lot of people don't like the decompressed storytelling endemic within the industry nowadays. Saying that everything is being written for the trade. But economically it works. Things might move slow, but we try to make the issues as live and as entertaining as possible. We will possibly have some shorter arcs coming up. In fact, the fill-in issues done by the very talented Jon Malin is a two-part arc. In issue 9, Paco Medina returns and we get into our second arc where there is more mystery surrounding Night Thrasher and what he really has planned.

3. As for seeing some old New Warriors and old New Warrior villains make appearances, we have to be careful about writing comics about "old comics". This series has to sink or swim on its own merits and find it's own audience. That said, I actually wanted to bring in Psionex for these next two issues, but we opted to use Silhouette and Midnight's Fire instead in a more personal story. Hopefully you guys will dig it. If not, let me know.

Another thing that I had to learn as a fan making the transition to pro is that you just can't use different Marvel characters just because you think it would be cool, or you think it makes perfect sense. I'm working in a "shared universe". That means that other cats are using different characters and I just can't use them without permission from the character's "home office". Most of the old New Warriors are in the Marvel Heroes office as a good deal of them are part of the Initiative. We can bring in old team members when we get a greenlight and/or if it fits into our plans, but not until. But don't worry. You'll be seeing at least four old members sooner than you think. :-)

4. Personally, I'm enjoying writing my dialogue. But it's also an experiment in writing hyper-realistic teenagers living on there own and trying to make a way for themselves out of no way. I like Grace, the hip hop white girl. She's corny, but that's the point. She's forcing herself to be something that she's not. And she originally adopted that attitude to survive. I'll be dealing with some of their backstories soon.

With Sofia, I really didn't want to write a Venezuelan accent. I felt that being in New York and living on her own, she would try to assimilate the best she could. This was a way for me to do it and have some fun.

As for the cops, Sykes and Givens, we'll see more of them again. I've known a lot of cops and I hear them talk similar to them at times.

Everything is a process and I like where it's taking me. Hopefully, people will be along for the ride. But please, don't stop talking. Keep the comments coming good or bad. I LOVE to hear it all!

KG

[Strife]

with all due respect, cus i actually enjoy the comic(although stacy-x??pleaaaaaase..heres hoping u actually make her into an interesting character)
i hate this decompressed nonsense....fabe and marrk did the same thing this decompressed warriors did in 6 issues in their first issue.

The problem with decompressed comics is that they're a lot like mc donalds..very light and half an hour later u forgot that u ate anything.

Having said that...i loved how someone finally told urich off....(btw,,by not spilling about daredevil isnt he in fact accesory to a crime?)

[kamikazi]

Originally Posted by Strife

with all due respect, cus i actually enjoy the comic(although stacy-x??pleaaaaaase..heres hoping u actually make her into an interesting character)
i hate this decompressed nonsense....fabe and marrk did the same thing this decompressed warriors did in 6 issues in their first issue.

I think he's talking about the market side of things. The fact is that trades are HUGE sellers now, and I guess publishers want them to have one six-part story rather than multiple 2- or 3- part stories (although I don't mind the latter at all, and actually enjoy them more most of the time).

My problem is that many writers don't seem to think, "OK, let me make a six part arc," but rather, "OK, this story could fit in 3 issues...but let's make it six instead." It seems like they're upping the length without upping the content to satisfactorily (to the fans at least) fill that length. And in my opinion, having a long first arc can hurt a new series because if people don't like what's happening at the moment, they can't just wait 'til part 3 is over to see if they like the next part, but have to wait for 4 more parts instead - which often leads to the title being dropped.

With that said, thanks for coming around and explaining things, Mr. Grevioux. Like someone else said, the 'rama can be a harsh place sometimes, and I (and I'm sure many others) appreciate it when creators still come down here and there can be a nice discussion between fans and writers.

And it's true, a lot of fans probably don't think of the the business side of things when it comes to writing - that there are rules and guidelines involved and that other people have to play, too, so no one can just say, "I'm writing for Marvel and they have awesome characters. Let's go!"

I'm really excited to see where this story goes now that the introductions are over. I hope you establish some recurring foes (I really liked the new Zodiac). And if Psionex had to be swapped out for Sil and MF - well, that's not a bad trade at all.

[motteditor]

Now, I know a lot of folks don't like what they call "editorially driven" comics, but the editors are NOT the enemy. In fact, Joe, Axel and Daniel are the heroes of the book and have been supportive of what I've been doing. Guiding me along the way and giving me opportunities to do some cool things and some experimental things. Just like film and working with producers I know that working in comics is a collaborative process. And you know what? IT WORKS. Marvel might've chosen the direction or the characters, but it is up to ME to execute it. And if I'm not doing it well, or you guys disagree with what I've done, feel free to let me have it. That's what I'm here for.

I don't think editors are necessarily bad (hell, I am one). I do think they made a bad decision in this case. The concept is interesting, and certainly worth a book, but it shouldn't have been merged with the New Warriors. IMO.

The problem with decompressed comics is that they're a lot like mc donalds..very light and half an hour later u forgot that u ate anything.

I'll say this for Grevioux's New Warriors, though. I don't think they've fallen into that trap. Because he was telling the story on parallel lines (with the police investigation going along with what we learned from watching the Warriors), the stories haven't felt light. I've been frustrated at the slow pace of the reveals, but I don't feel like nothing's happened in the issues. Might just be me.

KG, when are we going to find out more about the current Zodiac? They're one of my all-time favorite Marvel villains, though I do think they're a slightly odd choice for the Warriors. Glad to hear you were thinking of Psionex, as I'll anxiously await their return). I like that you're actually using Mf and Sil instead -- parallels nicely with v.1. (And I think that's key; you don't want to rewrite the originals, but little easter eggs like this really appeal to us readers of the original material.)

[kamikazi]

Originally Posted by motteditor

I'll say this for Grevioux's New Warriors, though. I don't think they've fallen into that trap. Because he was telling the story on parallel lines (with the police investigation going along with what we learned from watching the Warriors), the stories haven't felt light. I've been frustrated at the slow pace of the reveals, but I don't feel like nothing's happened in the issues. Might just be me.

Nope, I'm with you, too.

Originally Posted by motteditor

KG, when are we going to find out more about the current Zodiac? They're one of my all-time favorite Marvel villains, though I do think they're a slightly odd choice for the Warriors. Glad to hear you were thinking of Psionex, as I'll anxiously await their return). I like that you're actually using Mf and Sil instead -- parallels nicely with v.1. (And I think that's key; you don't want to rewrite the originals, but little easter eggs like this really appeal to us readers of the original material.)

I think Zodiac could sort of fit into the Warriors. If it's revealed that they are just doing what they do because it's fate, stars aligned, blahblahblah, they could fit into the moral "grey zone" that a lof the the NWs villains fell in.

And I agree about not rewriting the originals. I think that's one of the (several) things that hurt v. 2 - it felt like it was just rehashing stuff from the first volume.

[intensity]

Dear Mr. Kevin Grevioux,

By the way, Kevin's a great name... you and I have something great in common lol.

my questions:

Regarding Jubilee: )THANK YOU! Its about time someone at Marvel is treating her with respect. )
1) Jubilation is a formidable hand-to-hand combatant, as well as an ace gymnast with near-Olympic capabilities. She has trained with Wolverine, The X-Men, X-Corps, and Generation X. Her previous appearances showed her being able to out-maneuver her adversaries with aerials, tumbles, and acrobatics. Will we be seeing her utilize this potential in the future?
2) Who's idea was it to have Jubilee be a new New Warrior, yours or Marvels? If Marvel, were you happy with the idea? What about the idea of her being 2nd in command?
3) Can we expect Jubilee to have any future run-ins with Wolverine or the X-Men... and will she bond at all with Decibel/Chamber?

Regarding Chamber:
1) Are his powers technology-based... or are they derived from his ties with Apocalypse?
2) In Generation X, Jono was a very take-action sort of powerhouse... will he show as much potential as a New Warrior?

also, what sort of bad guys will the team be up against? Will they continue their fued with the new Zodiac?

Most Respectfully,
Kevin

[mike101]

Originally Posted by Twigglet

Stact X?

Wha?

That came out of left field. Why is she human looking? It's been established that she retained he distinctive look even after her powers disappeared. On top of that, she was shown during the Endangered Species storyline working the streets of Mutant Town? Does she still turn tricks on the side when she isn't with the NW?

[MsPhoenyxx]

Originally Posted by mike101

That came out of left field. Why is she human looking? It's been established that she retained he distinctive look even after her powers disappeared. On top of that, she was shown during the Endangered Species storyline working the streets of Mutant Town? Does she still turn tricks on the side when she isn't with the NW?

perhaps she shed her final layer of snake skin?

[speedbaldwin]

Originally Posted by mike101

That came out of left field. Why is she human looking? It's been established that she retained he distinctive look even after her powers disappeared. On top of that, she was shown during the Endangered Species storyline working the streets of Mutant Town? Does she still turn tricks on the side when she isn't with the NW?

My guess is that particular story takes place before her involvement in New Warriors. The writer or editor probably didn't realize she was being used in New Warriors when that was written. Although I guess she could still be doing that on the side, but I hope that's not the case. As for her appearance, I think they are saying that some of the mutants with physical mutations reverted to their normal human appearance at a slower pace. Again, probably because the writer, artist, or editor hadn't known or anticipated that she would be in New Warriors in her normal human appearance.

[Yaw]

Yeah I just went back and re-read Generation M. THe ball was dropped on Stacy X. She lost her powers but not her looks. It would have been better if it were Jessica Vale aka PReview who alot of people already thought it might have been. She's young and would have a greater reason to want to be a superhero than Stacy X. Editors should have picked up on that one.

[PaxHouse]

Originally Posted by Kevin Grevioux

3. As for seeing some old New Warriors and old New Warrior villains make appearances, we have to be careful about writing comics about "old comics". This series has to sink or swim on its own merits and find it's own audience. That said, I actually wanted to bring in Psionex for these next two issues, but we opted to use Silhouette and Midnight's Fire instead in a more personal story. Hopefully you guys will dig it. If not, let me know.

Another thing that I had to learn as a fan making the transition to pro is that you just can't use different Marvel characters just because you think it would be cool, or you think it makes perfect sense. I'm working in a "shared universe". That means that other cats are using different characters and I just can't use them without permission from the character's "home office". Most of the old New Warriors are in the Marvel Heroes office as a good deal of them are part of the Initiative. We can bring in old team members when we get a greenlight and/or if it fits into our plans, but not until. But don't worry. You'll be seeing at least four old members sooner than you think. :-)

Good point that you've brought up about when you're planning to use certain characters {IOW, some of the former Warriors} within your series.....Plus, let's hope that we'll see Psionex when the timing's right.....

[speedbaldwin]

Originally Posted by Yaw

Yeah I just went back and re-read Generation M. THe ball was dropped on Stacy X. She lost her powers but not her looks. It would have been better if it were Jessica Vale aka PReview who alot of people already thought it might have been. She's young and would have a greater reason to want to be a superhero than Stacy X. Editors should have picked up on that one.

I can agree that Preview seems like she would have more desire to be a hero than Stacy X and that she seems to be closer to the ages of the New Warriors. Some people are complaining about Stacy X and some people are complaining about not knowing who some of the characters are because they were so unknown. If Ripcord had been Preview, people would still complain about not knowing who she was because she was basically a background character. There's just no way to make some people happy. Personally, I think Stacy X's background is fairly interesting. I'm not really understanding all the dislike for her character.

[Strife]

no, mr K does do a great job of at least filling the issues.(doesnt mean there wasnt also alot of filler, but at least it was filler that enhanced the story).
maybe im just weird in that i dont really care of i have a TB of a complete story arc..
Ive bought the classic x-men, and we know that they had story arcs spanning years...doenst mean i didnt enjoy the classic...just meant i was looking forward to the next one.
So writing for the trade is totaly lost on me..and more often then not ruins the appeal of the story for me

[miamiu]

Originally Posted by Twigglet

Stact X?

Wha?

I agree seems like they just pulled a depowered mutant character name out of a book. That character behaves nothing like Stacy X. She should be a whore and act sexy. She should be traumatized more. This Stacy X looks like some teen out of the OC.

[AdamYJ]

Originally Posted by Kevin Grevioux

Now, I know a lot of folks don't like what they call "editorially driven" comics, but the editors are NOT the enemy.

I don't think people dislike editorially driven comics as much as they dislike editorially micromanaged comics. You here about them doing that at Marvel a lot during the mid-to-late '90s. Writers would come up with really good stories only for editors to tear the idea to bits, not to make the story better, but through some fear of damaging the status quo that was set up.

As long as that's not the case, things should be golden.

Originally Posted by Edogawa1983

I think it's actually a device on his neck, and he activate it by opening his mouth.

It could be something that amplifies the power of the vocal cords themselves. It could be some sort of Klaw device, though he usually works with "solid sound". Maybe it's some prototype that Zemo would have given to Songbird but it got scrapped in favor of the carapace she wears now.

Just spitballing ideas.

[kamikazi]

If you're still hanging around this thread, Mr. Grevioux, I have one more question - would you be able to tell us why issue six was late? I didn't really mind (it's nothing compared to the delays on other books) and I appreciate that it's shipping twice this month to catch up, but I was just curious (although I respect that you might not want to "tattle" due to professional courtesy).

[Mindblower]

Originally Posted by Kevin Grevioux

Hey All!

Here are some of the answers to your questions:

1. As for why there are so many ex-mutants on the team, that's the way Marvel wanted it. They had a good amount of mutant characters who had just been de-powered and wanted to find a cool way to use them again instead of "sitting the bench". The New Warriors provided a perfect opportunity for that.

Now, I know a lot of folks don't like what they call "editorially driven" comics, but the editors are NOT the enemy. In fact, Joe, Axel and Daniel are the heroes of the book and have been supportive of what I've been doing. Guiding me along the way and giving me opportunities to do some cool things and some experimental things. Just like film and working with producers I know that working in comics is a collaborative process. And you know what? IT WORKS. Marvel might've chosen the direction or the characters, but it is up to ME to execute it. And if I'm not doing it well, or you guys disagree with what I've done, feel free to let me have it. That's what I'm here for.

Complaints aside, I really loved reading this paragraph. I fully support this post!

3. As for seeing some old New Warriors and old New Warrior villains make appearances, we have to be careful about writing comics about "old comics". This series has to sink or swim on its own merits and find it's own audience. That said, I actually wanted to bring in Psionex for these next two issues, but we opted to use Silhouette and Midnight's Fire instead in a more personal story. Hopefully you guys will dig it. If not, let me know.

Another thing that I had to learn as a fan making the transition to pro is that you just can't use different Marvel characters just because you think it would be cool, or you think it makes perfect sense. I'm working in a "shared universe". That means that other cats are using different characters and I just can't use them without permission from the character's "home office". Most of the old New Warriors are in the Marvel Heroes office as a good deal of them are part of the Initiative. We can bring in old team members when we get a greenlight and/or if it fits into our plans, but not until. But don't worry. You'll be seeing at least four old members sooner than you think. :-)

Still, can we get a New X-Men crossover?!?!

With Sofia, I really didn't want to write a Venezuelan accent. I felt that being in New York and living on her own, she would try to assimilate the best she could. This was a way for me to do it and have some fun.

Again, complaints aside--I'm really glad my girl is getting another shot. I really don't think you're writing her badly or anything, but the dialogue change really made her feel unfamiliar. Whether time will allow me to adjust is yet to be seen, though.

Also didn't Stacy have dark skin? (even in her pre-mutation, self-narrated flashback she was drawn as such. Then again, she was totally lying about most of it. I know you probably don't control that, but I don't know what the official stance of that is.)

Also, will there be a story about Beak and Angel's kids? There was a offhanded comment about their kids in the first issue that implied something was up, but it wasn't really followed up on (yet).

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to respond to fans and being open to our harshness.

[coolmvm]

I have several questions for this series future:

1. Even if Tony Stark isn't sponsering the New Warriors, will his other "crimes" in Civil War be made to the public in the future, because I always believe that the Truth, no matter how bad, can set anyone free ?

2. Also will we know the real reason why Bandit is the New Night Trasher ?

3. Plus since all of the former New Warriors are busy within the Initiative and in Space (Nova), then why not use Firestar who was retired within Civil War ?

4. Also I kind of like the lineup to the team, as most of them could use some developments within their characters, but will we find out how they got on the team within future issues ?

5 Also once the team gets it status quo under control and have a few adventures, will we see them cross any other teenager teams within the Marvel U in future issues ?

You seem like a nice guy to answer these questions Mr. G. and I hope to hear from you soon.