NEW YORK DAILY NEWS REPORTS ON CAP #25 - SPOILER WARNING

**MattBrady** · 03-07-2007, 06:14 AM

As with the major reveal in Civil War #2, the mainstream media has picked up on a story point in a Marvel Comic, this time, Captain America #25.

SPOILER WARNING FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA #25

According to the New York Daily News, Captain America dies in issue #25, after being shot on the steps of the courthouse where he was to be arraigned.

"It's a hell of a time for him to go. We really need him now," co-creator Joe Simon, 93, told the News after being informed of his brainchild's death.

The News outlined Cap’s history up to the point of Civil War, quoting current Cap writer Ed Brubaker as saying:

"What I found is that all the really hard-core left-wing fans want Cap to be standing out on and giving speeches on the streetcorner against the Bush administration, and all the really right-wing [fans] all want him to be over in the streets of Baghdad, punching out Saddam," Brubaker said.

From the News:

Comic book deaths, however, are rarely final. Marvel's archrival, DC Comics, provoked a media frenzy when it killed off Superman in 1993, only to reanimate its prize creation a year later.

Joe Quesada, 43, Marvel Entertainment's editor in chief, said he wouldn't rule out the shield-throwing champion's eventual return. But for now, the Captain's fans are in mourning.

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spiderTam · 03-07-2007, 06:31 AM

Second post! (I hope)

Man, that is a freaking pain! I was looking forward to reading this and its all over the news! That and the fact that us Brits have to wait until Thursday!

Hellblazer · 03-07-2007, 06:33 AM

Yeah, right !

Dead, indeed.

Jon Snow · 03-07-2007, 06:34 AM

Huh.
There's got to be more to this than, you know, meets the eye.

I'm fairly sure killing Cap with a movie in development (plus a possible Avengers flick on the way as well) would not be very sensible.

So, i shall wait and see.
Needless to say that i have utter faith in Brubaker.

Funny enough, this article does say that Cap is shot, but it fails to mention Steve Rogers...

Edit:

But the NYNews article does, sorry.

darrenmdr · 03-07-2007, 06:34 AM

Bloody hell I am shocked. Please Please Please do not let Cap become Ronin. I have no doubt he will be back, resurrected as a result of the Super Soldier Serum or by the Cosmic Cube or anything else fine. Make it that it was really hulkling in disguise or it was a ruse by Nick Fury to get Steve underground. Just keep Cap out of the limelight for a while.

Could not agree more with Ed Brubaker either. I've been a fan of Cap for many years now and I know this sounds strange, but even thought this new series has been exemplary in every way, this news make me happy.

sums it up.

Jon Snow · 03-07-2007, 06:39 AM

Cap is not Ronin.
Read New Avengers 27 and you'll see what i mean.

Does Cap say "yo"?

Thought not.

Morten Pedersen · 03-07-2007, 06:40 AM

Cap is faking his death with a LMD, it's a classic Marvel WWII hero plot or so i think?

spiderTam · 03-07-2007, 06:40 AM

Ed Brubaker had done a fine job on this book since he's taken over it. Heck he's done a good enough job on most books since his Marvel debut (not sure about Uncanny X tho!), I'm interested to see where he will take it.

Considering the insistence on Marvels part that Civil War would not be stopped by cosmic cubes or annihilation waves I imagine this will not be so cheesily ret-conned!

Well, they could kill Iron Man, have the hand revive both of them. Then Tony is Ronin, Steve is Iron Man and Frank Castle is Daredevil!

We'll leave Cap's identity up to Iron Fist. Let him make a career of it!

theodoros2 · 03-07-2007, 06:45 AM

The second bigest joke in comicbooks is "killing" a character.
He stays dead for a month now?

The best jokes in comicbooks are the clones.

Of course he is not dead!! Doing the same thing with Daredevil?

Floyd Lawton · 03-07-2007, 06:48 AM

He aint dead. Bru has a plan.

steelscott · 03-07-2007, 06:50 AM

I don't believe it! That has to be one powerful sniper.

Sounds like a cool event. I'm in and I haven't read CAP since Garney and Waid.

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ApacheDick · 03-07-2007, 06:52 AM

Having just read "The Punisher/Captain America: Blood & Glory", where the Punisher snipes Cap and he survives... well, this is, what, the 180th time Steve has been gunned down?

Fact is, you put this in a book that not too long ago brought Bucky back from oblivion, you just know we're one cheap flashback away from "Steve secretly survived, and the Taliban turned him into a cyborg assassin."

Star Saber · 03-07-2007, 06:56 AM

wait, wasn't peter suppose to don the black costume bec of cap's death? but he was wearing black before cap died....

leckomaniac · 03-07-2007, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Snow

Cap is not Ronin.
Read New Avengers 27 and you'll see what i mean.

Does Cap say "yo"?

Thought not.

But wasn't the big knock against Cap that he wasn't in touch with Americans today? Youtube, and myspace etc? So wouldn't be logical that Cap faked his own death...went underground...became Ronin all in an attempt to feel more connected? Therefore, his use of the word "yo" would be him attempting to make that connection...not unlike when your father says stuff like that trying to feel connected to you.

RichJohnston · 03-07-2007, 07:01 AM

Remember, these things are never permanent, and the super soldier serum will always be a convenient get out clause…. Also, see the third story in Initiative for more details… LITG reported the rumours of this months ago, as well as the spin Marvel tried to deflect attention with its fake Amazon listing. LITG also stated that was the reason for Fallen Son *really* being called Fallen Soldier, and that it would all kick off in Captain America 25…

"Damn it to Hell..."

Toygeek · 03-07-2007, 07:02 AM

Not to get into too much detail...but if you read Civil War: The Initiative, ALSO out today, Ms. Marvel gives a direct contradiction to what the news is reporting. Of course, based on the conversation, and whom she's having it with...she could have been lying.

But it's an out.

**edit**

Ahem...also known as "what Rich Johnston just said." Man, I'm slow on the draw today. Though he IS much more familiar with stories about Brubaker and death in comics than I am.

The Bry · 03-07-2007, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by leckomaniac

But wasn't the big knock against Cap that he wasn't in touch with Americans today? Youtube, and myspace etc? So wouldn't be logical that Cap faked his own death...went underground...became Ronin all in an attempt to feel more connected? Therefore, his use of the word "yo" would be him attempting to make that connection...not unlike when your father says stuff like that trying to feel connected to you.

I was thinking the same thing, but that would taint the very thing he was standing for wouldn't it? I mean that's like (and I'm not makin this a DC/Marvel thread) Superman giving up all his values so that he could "fit" in the modern world it just won't fit, I personally find it interesting that a guy who represents Marvel's America would be branded as a traitor...guess they're not so Civil (yeah that was a bad pun)

tof · 03-07-2007, 07:07 AM

After a guy shot Speedball you'd think the policemen were smart enough to protect Captain America when bringing him to his trial

Beheader · 03-07-2007, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tof

After a guy shot Speedball you'd think the policemen were smart enough to protect Captain America when bringing him to his trial

My thought exactly. This would have more impact if they didn't do the Speedball shooting, now it's repetitive.

Even the original "Dead means dead" Joe Q admits he'll probably be back. It's a weak sales ploy.

Not saying it won't be a good story, but it's impact has flaws.

Jon Snow · 03-07-2007, 07:21 AM

How, exactly, is something that you haven't read and know next to nothing about a weak sales ploy?

I call it misdirection...

ChaosArtist · 03-07-2007, 07:23 AM

whats disappointing is that this is the second bomb spoiled which could have been major news (the first being spideys unmasking). anyway all that matters is great storytelling and i trust bru

Beheader · 03-07-2007, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Snow

How, exactly, is something that you haven't read and know next to nothing about a weak sales ploy?

Because the article says Cap is shot dead, then the EIC says he'll probably be back. It's like reading an advertisement for delicious apples with a note saying they might be rotten. Of course it's misdiretion, they admit it.

dpg · 03-07-2007, 07:42 AM

I hate those assholes. F**k Marvel.

Toygeek · 03-07-2007, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beheader

Of course it's misdiretion, they admit it.

Of course, as of late, they've been known to cause misdirection about their misdirection. So clearly I cannot choose the wine in front of me...

mopocalypse · 03-07-2007, 07:52 AM

He didn't die DURING Civil War and then they kill him in his first post CW story