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Old 02-24-2004, 03:50 PM   #1
MattBrady
 
KORDEY FIRED FROM EXCALIBUR

According to a report on ComiX-Fan, Igor Kordey has been fired from Excalibur, making the news known literally the day before the Marvel solicitations (which list him as penciller) are to be posted online.

According to the report, Kordey has not been reassigned to any new books. This will be the first time Kordey has no immediatley moved to another book in the X-office.

Excalibur, according ot leaked solicitations, is the May-debuting book written by Chris Claremont. The solicitation for the title reads:

EXCALIBUR #1 & #2
Written by Chris Claremont
Penciled by Igor Kordey
Covers by ANDY PARK
"FORGING THE SWORD" pts. 1 & 2
The island of Genosha was once a thriving nation of mutants, built from the ground up by Magneto, the mutant Master of Magnetism. Then, one day, an apocalyptic attack killed every man, woman and child, and reduced an entire society to rubble within hours. Now, Professor Charles Xavier – legendary founder of the X-Men, and the man who dreams of peaceful coexistence between humans and mutants – has come to Genosha with one intention: to rebuild a nation from its ashes. This brand-new X-MEN: RELOAD series features stories and art from the creative team that brought you X-TREME X-MEN!
32 PGS. (each)/MARVEL PSR …$2.99 (each)
Issue #1 UPC: 5960605540-00111; #2: 5960605540-00211

Kordey had drawn one full issue and was at work on the second.

Update: At the messageboard on his site, Kordey expressed surprise when it was revelaed last week that Andy Park would be doing the covers, posting, "Yeah, I thought that I'm doing covers too. And as it usualy goes I was the last one to find out about cancellation of my cover service."

Korey also hinted that he was having some kind of difficulties with the X-office on the title, later posting, when asked about his art approach: "They 're givin' me a loads of $#!^ right now...
Until situation clears out, I'd rather keep my trap shut... "

Kordey also said that he had drawn the cover for #1, with new characters that he had designed for the series, but it was later cancelled.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 03:57 PM   #2
toolverine
 
So, did he have any penciled issues done or not?
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:00 PM   #3
Jason Galvin
 
This is the best news I've heard from Marvel all year. About time this guy got canned. His art alone should have been gotten him fired off of New X-men. Kordey can paint, but I don't want to see his pencils in any comics I read.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:06 PM   #4
Strike
 
This will make a lot of Newsarama posters happy.

Personally, I'm undecided. He started off terrible, but he was getting a lot better.

Ah well. Any chance of Salvador Larocca taking up the slack?
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:08 PM   #5
Fazhoul
 
Wow. I know a lot of X-fans are going to be ecstatic about this. I'll wait to see who his replacement is before adding the title to my list.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:10 PM   #6
FIG
 
That covers not by Igor, its by Andy Park who paints very similar to Glen Fabry it appears. As for Kodeys demise, I'd hate to be in his shoes where people hate him because some fans simply don't like his artwork. I can't even imagine how much that must suck, especially when said fans can't draw worth sh!t or don't know what it takes to work in comics. Sure I don't like certain artists work but that doesn't mean I would be overly vocal about it, especially if I knew they came to this forum. Personally I thought Kordey could have made his style more detailed and tighter but would I want to force that upon him?-NO. Poor guy, hope he does alright.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:15 PM   #7
Galleech
 
I did like Kordey doing two issues a month consistently, but ever since the change of inkers on Xtreme I really have not liked the art (I think good inking saved Kordey during most of Intifada).
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:18 PM   #8
tralfaz
 
i dont know how to respond to this because sometimes his work was good, sometimes it was bad.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:20 PM   #9
mrhelm
 
I was finally getting used to Kordey too...

I would pray that they put Larocca on this book, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:23 PM   #10
Gordon McAlpin
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Jason Galvin
This is the best news I've heard from Marvel all year. About time this guy got canned. His art alone should have been gotten him fired off of New X-men. Kordey can paint, but I don't want to see his pencils in any comics I read.


Blame the X editors, not Igor Kordey. I thought his pencils were nice on New X-Men -- for the first issue, and none others after that. The problem, I think, was poor inking choices (there should be laws against him inking his own pencils) and the fact that he was rushed to do two full comics a month.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:25 PM   #11
KingStalin
 
I am now very excited to see Excalibur number one now. No offense to Kordey but I enjoyed him on Cable and that was it. Hope he finds something better to draw and not the x-men, oh hey, Salvador can do multiple books a month, hmmmmm.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:26 PM   #12
William Coate
 
He HAD an amazing style on Cable and then after that he seemed to be getting worse and worse. I don't what happened to this guy but his stuff on New X-Men was just plain horrific.

I think it's good that he's no longer on Excalibur and they start it with a different artist all together. I won't try unless it's good.

Frankly I don't think I will be getting any X related books.

WC
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:27 PM   #13
Kerouac
 
It's about damned time.

Matt
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:32 PM   #14
Bagheera
 
Well, I rather liked Kordey's artwork.

I wonder why Marvel gave him the boot. Did they have another 'more talented' artist waiting in the wings ... or what? I'd hate to think it was because of fan reaction.

'Cause -- DAMN -- Austen's still f*cking up books left and right.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:37 PM   #15
William Coate
 
No f##king kidding?

"I'd hate to be in his shoes where people hate him because some fans simply don't like his artwork. I can't even imagine how much that must suck, especially when said fans can't draw worth sh!t or don't know what it takes to work in comics."


I suppose whenever someone says they don't like something they don't know what it takes for the product to be made be it a movie, tv production, book, or comic book then they are absolutely ignorant to the world and what it takes for such PRODUCTS to be made. WOW! That's a bold statement because frankly it means you don't know what the F##K you are talking about!

Tastes are all different and the fact that it takes time and energy for a style and product to be created does not change people's tastes.

If critics and those who actually spend money on an item were told that they had no right to an opinion because it was really hard to make and produce then why enjoy anything? We are not in an Orwellian world where we are told what to enjoy. Tastes emerge and we follow what we like.

Everything takes time and energy. Some things just plain suck.
That's just the way it is.

WC

Last edited by William Coate : 02-24-2004 at 04:41 PM.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:38 PM   #16
Zeus
 
To echo a previous sentiment


Its about damn time.

Kordey's pencils were just gross. I "messy" styles like that. Blah, no thanks, glad he got the boot. Hopefully he can find work on a book that i dont read.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:45 PM   #17
Comics&Beer
 
And Kordey's artwork just plain sucks.

I agree 100%.

Let Alan Davis do 2 titles a month, that would be sweet!
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:45 PM   #18
Matt Hawes
 
Over on Comicon, Igor Kordey said that Marvel was going "back to diapers," in a slam against costumes for superheroes.

Hey, I feel for the dude, and I really do wish him luck in finding an assignment, but he loses some points when he starts dissing on the genre for being what it's supposed to be.

Honestly, publishers need to stop hiring people who hold the concept, genre, or characters they work on in such contempt. It's hard for me to imagine someone putting forth their best effort into something which they obviously despise.

There's plenty of others, with families both large and small of their own, who are talented and would actually love to work on a superhero comic.

Superheroes in costumes... Go figure. (Insert sarcasm.)
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:54 PM   #19
Taylor Porter
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Matt Hawes
Over on Comicon, Igor Kordey said that Marvel was going "back to diapers," in a slam against costumes for superheroes.

Hey, I feel for the dude, and I really do wish him luck in finding an assignment, but he loses some points when he starts dissing on the genre for being what it's supposed to be.

The genre is supposed to be underwear on the outside of your pants? I don't get it.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:55 PM   #20
tralfaz
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Matt Hawes
Over on Comicon, Igor Kordey said that Marvel was going "back to diapers," in a slam against costumes for superheroes.

Hey, I feel for the dude, and I really do wish him luck in finding an assignment, but he loses some points when he starts dissing on the genre for being what it's supposed to be.

Honestly, publishers need to stop hiring people who hold the concept, genre, or characters they work on in such contempt. It's hard for me to imagine someone putting forth their best effort into something which they obviously despise.

There's plenty of others, with families both large and small of their own, who are talented and would actually love to work on a superhero comic.

Superheroes in costumes... Go figure. (Insert sarcasm.)
you know after reading the article at pulse i dont mind the slam about "going back to diapers"

isnt the concept of Excalibur to rebuild Genosha? Why would they need to wear costumes to rebuild a country made up of mutants?

also, to take away an assignment without an explanation is just wrong
 
Old 02-24-2004, 04:58 PM   #21
Xaraan
 
I might actually add this book to my pull list now and get it if they pick up a good penciler.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 05:03 PM   #22
Nick Wyche
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Matt Hawes
Over on Comicon, Igor Kordey said that Marvel was going "back to diapers," in a slam against costumes for superheroes.

Hey, I feel for the dude, and I really do wish him luck in finding an assignment, but he loses some points when he starts dissing on the genre for being what it's supposed to be.

Honestly, publishers need to stop hiring people who hold the concept, genre, or characters they work on in such contempt. It's hard for me to imagine someone putting forth their best effort into something which they obviously despise.

There's plenty of others, with families both large and small of their own, who are talented and would actually love to work on a superhero comic.

Superheroes in costumes... Go figure. (Insert sarcasm.)


For someone to work in a genre they despise of course means that they couldn't possibly do good work. That's why John Buscema, who vocally and consistently derided superhero comics throughout his career, is considered a no-talent artist whose work is considered to suck by pros and fans alike. That's why Gil Kane, who stated his lack of overt affection for superheroes repeatedly, is universally derided for the poor quality of his work.
This is an implicitly silly statement. Many fine artists have worked in the superhero genre though they thought it was a silly, childish, thing.
Additionally, just because superheroes have traditionally worn skin-tight costumes and masks does not mean that is the only way to do them. That is the way traditionalists like them. Fine. It doesn't mean that there aren't creators and readers alike who would be interested in working with or reading superhero characters if they were to be modernized a bit. If they were brought into the 21st century in approach and philosophy.
This "return to diapers" approach on Marvel's part is indicative of a cowardly group of executives who only see short-term and don't realize the long-term damage they will be doing to their company and the public perception of comics as a whole by returning to the past .
 
Old 02-24-2004, 05:11 PM   #23
Pikachu007
 
Quick! Get Larroca now! then we won't have to mention "He Who Must Not Be Named!" as artist yuck....

PB
 
Old 02-24-2004, 05:16 PM   #24
starvenger
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Bagheera
Well, I rather liked Kordey's artwork.

I wonder why Marvel gave him the boot. Did they have another 'more talented' artist waiting in the wings ... or what? I'd hate to think it was because of fan reaction.

'Cause -- DAMN -- Austen's still f*cking up books left and right.

I'm always amazed that no matter what, if the topic is X-related, someone reaches out and typeslaps Austen...
 
Old 02-24-2004, 05:16 PM   #25
starvenger
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Pikachu007
Quick! Get Larroca now! then we won't have to mention "He Who Must Not Be Named!" as artist yuck....

PB

Howard Mackie's an artist?
 
 
   

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