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Old 12-23-2005, 11:20 AM   #1
MattBrady
 
CRISIS RECOVERY 03: MORE ANNOTATED FUN WITH INFINITE CRISIS #3

It’s that time of the month again.

If a month of anticipation, and then finally reading Infinite Crisis #3 this week have left you worn out, you’ve come to the right place. Just as we did last month, it’s time for some "Crisis Recovery", and hopefully, a reminder that, in the end, it’s all just funny books.

for those easily offended, that “funny books” thing was only the first thing that is going to come out of this that will upset you, for sure.

And yes, be warned – we will try too hard to make jokes, some of the references will go right over your heads, some will go right over our heads. So - with tongue firmly planted in cheek, we’ve got your Infinite Crisis #3 page by page guide with mild annotations, some of which may even be correct.

While it may seem obvious to most, a page-by-page guide WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS.

Let’s roll, and start at the start.

Page 1:

Q: Holy crap!

A: And you thought Aquaman wasn’t cool.

Q: But why’s he fighting underwater in San Diego with buildings and stuff around?

A: It’s partly “Sub Diego.” A goodly-sized chunk of San Diego fell right off and sank back in Aquaman #15.

Q: But…

A: Yeah.

Q: Who’s Aquaman fighting?

A: A virtual army of bad guys from the Society, as seen in Aquaman #37. These include: Black Manta (helmet and red eyes), Ocean Master (skull-helmet, and is Aquaman’s half brother), and more. Check out Aquaman #37 for the roster and attack, as well as a different view of the Spectre smooshing Atlantis.

As an aside – he stepped on Atlantis. That was it? Where have the days of the Spectre’s judgments being full of delicious irony gone? Why not move Atlantis to the Gobi desert? Make them all eat fish until they explode? Have undead fishermen hook them all by the mouth and pull them to the surface? Flush the entire population of Atlantis down a huge toilet like you do with fish you don’t want around anymore?

Oh – that last one is funny, if we do say so ourselves…

Page 2-3:

Q: Where?

A: Atlantis, Atlantic Ocean.

Q: Who?

A: About every magical character associated with Atlantis in the DCU. They’re led by Tempest (the former Aqualad) who’s looking to repel the badness from the surface world.

Q: Who’s the guy talking about “my father’s city?”

A: Koryak, Aquaman’s illegitimate son by way of Kako, an Inuit woman. To see (well not see, but “see” literally, but what led up to it all) his conception, check out Aquaman: Time and Tide by Peter David.

Q: Who else is there?

A: Hey, even on a good day, identifying all of Atlantis’ magic users is hard, but…let’s see…the mother of Tempest’s son, Dolphin; Lori Lemaris (the mermaid who fell in love with Superman) – we think, Vulko, leader of Atlantis; Arion, ages old sorcerer; and a few others which those posting below will point out probably before you’re done reading this, probably scolding us in the process.

But you know, they’d be scolding us for not knowing characters from Atlantis in a comic book universe while we were writing a page by page annotation/analysis of a major crossover comic book. If that’s not the definition of a “let he without sin cast the first stone” situation what is?

Q: What’s Tempest doing?

A: Using magic – bad idea. The Spectre is still on his “all magic is evil, and must be destroyed” kick from Day of Vengeance, senses the magic of Atlantis, and, in a bit that the Monty Python alums would be proud of, apparently stomps Atlantis.

Page 4:

Q: Brother Eye is still mad at Wonder Woman?

A: Yup.

Q: How is Wonder Woman able to be there? Wasn’t she arrested for killing Max Lord after the “Sacrifice” arc?

A: She left the detention center at the Hague in Wonder Woman #223 when she saw that her home was under attack.

Q: Wait – are the OMACs after Wonder Woman or all the Amazons?

A: Yes. You’ll see in a couple of pages – Brother Eye sees all Amazons as a threat and Wonder Woman in particular as a specific threat. As Brother Eye sees is, a race of super-powered female warriors who adhere to their own code with their own brand of justice could be problematic in regards to its view of the world. Oh, and Wonder Woman killed Brother Eye’s daddy, and if that’s not a good enough reason for war, what is?

Q: The woman talking to Diana?

A: Artemis. Once held the role of Wonder Woman. We discussed this before (on the “Page 28” entry). Weren’t you paying attention?

Page 5:

Q: The Purple Death Ray? Did they steal that from Dr. Evil or something?

A: Funny. The Purple Ray dates back to the very beginning of Wonder Woman as a character, and was used by the Amazons to heal injuries. It was first used on Steve Trevor, and has been seen many times over the years, most recently, when it was shown that it has no affect on injuries inflicted by gods or their agents. Also, given the purple death ray, it also apparently had a switch on the back that had, until now, been set to “heal.” Flip the switch to “kill,” and you’ve got a death ray.

Page 6:

Q: Brother Eye is a dick, isn’t he?

A: Look who made him. To quote Harry Chapin, “And as I hung up the phone it occurred to me, He'd grown up just like me. My boy was just like me.” Although, we’re betting that Batman’s a little busy for any folk song-style introspection.

Q: What’s Program: Truth and Justice that Brother Eye is intent on finishing?

A: Details are sketchy, but probably something that involved killing or neutralizing all super-powered humans on the planet, leveling the playing field so that Batman (as originally programmed, we would surmise) could kick their heads in. Oh, all of that, and then the final line of the program probably writes “Batman rulz” or “Hey Superman, suck it!” on the moon’s surface.

Page 7:

Q: He can’t breathe?

A: We should be so lucky. Seriously – this is bad for him. Who knows if he’s even close to feeling guilt that this point, but chances are he’s feeling something that comes close…in a Batman kind of way, maybe “If x,y, and z hadn’t happened, I wouldn’t have had to do this. Curse x,y, and z for happening!”

Page 8:

Q: Superman?

A: The other one.

Page 9:

Q: This is building up to something, right?

A: You got that feeling too?

Page 10:

Q: Uh…Superboy?

A: More’s coming up, but the appropriately seasonal phrase ends with “…than a fruitcake.”

Page 11:

Q: El Paso? Why?

A: The members of Shadowpact (soon to have their own ongoing series), are going around the DCU, mopping up the pieces of the Rock of Eternity, which went all explody at the end of Day of Vengeance. Though is traveled through many dimensions as the Spectre and the Wizard Shazam fought, apparently, it blew up over Gotham City, and sent pieces of itself all around the world.

Q: Detective Chimp is looking for a bar?

A: Yes. He’s an alcoholic.

Pages 12-13:

Q: Uh….Superman?

A: Cut him some slack – he studied journalism in school. To him, spot welding the outside of a building that was broken in half and skipping the internal repairs to the building’s structure just might make sense…somehow.

Or…maybe Batman is right about Superman, and he really is just a naïve farm boy from Kansas...who knows nothing about structural engineering.

Q: Yeah, but still…he said,”Good as new?”

A: Kind of makes you think that Superman is followed by a crew that goes in and actually repairs the stuff after Superman puts the Band-Aid on it?

Q: What did Jaime find in the alleyway?

A: The Blue Beetle Scarab. Though Ted Kord may have been all about the gadgetry and the tech (although not enough about the gadgetry and the tech to make a freaking bulletproof mask and hood), in its original incarnation, the Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett) was pretty mystical in nature, gaining his powers from the scarab Jaime just found in the alley. The easy money says Jaime is going to be the new Blue Beetle by Keith Giffen and Cully Hamner come March.

As for the reception of a new Blue Beetle from fans? Hey, Kyle Rayner was the last legacy character at DC to get his powers by accident in an alley, and that turned out okay, didn’t it?

Oh…yeah, that’s right.

Q: So what happens after Superman leaves?

A: The building falls down.

Page 14:

Q: Who, again?

A: Donna Troy’s gang of heroes which are in the Polaris Galaxy to stop/reverse the giant space anomaly from eating everything.

Q: Why is Firestorm talking to “Mick” who is apparently talking about Supergirl’s skirt?

A: Firestorm is currently two people merged together – Jason Rusch and his roommate Mick. Mick, apparently is a Newsarama regular, as this is the place where discussions about Supergirl’s costume can go into the tens of pages, and most often tend to focus on her outfit that would make a Dirrty era Christina Aguilera blush.

Q: Who was the floating head behind Firestorm that said “Ronald?”

A: Ah, weirdness. That was Dr. Martin Stein, one of the two individuals who, along with Ronald Raymond, made up the original Firestorm. Seeing Dr. Stein’s head show up would kind of suggest that there’s some multiple earth or multiple Firestorm thing going on, as Stein has been dead and out of the picture for some time.

Q: And the guy who looks like he’s there on loan from Vegas?

A: Aha – that’s another version of Firestorm – the one that the original kinda sorta evolved into a while back. Again, it’s all suggesting that there’s some kind of Crisis…at least on multiple Firestorms.

Q: Animal Man does what?

A: He can tap into the biological network (sometimes referred to as The Red) and copy the powers of any nearby animals. This one shoots lightning out of its face. Don’t be a hater. At least he’s not a bombardier beetle again.

Page 15:

Q: The Flash has kids?

A: Yup – Wally and Linda were preggers, and then Linda was injured by Professor Zoom, and lost he baby. One fight involving time, Barry Allen, and Professor Zoom later, Linda was pregnant again, instantly full term, and gave birth to twins. Dig it.

Q: Wait….what?

A: If you’re gonna buy that the building in El Paso will stand with a few spot welds on the outside, then you gotta buy this. Sorry.

Page 16:

Q: Back to the Batcave?

A: We make the jokes – you ask the questions.

Q: The Bruce that Superman is talking about?

A: The version of Batman from Earth-2. If you need more, and can handle us pimping ourselves, check out Troy Brownfield’s explanation of who Batman of Earth-2 was over here.

Q: Did Batman’s death really begin the ball rolling on the end of Earth-2?

A: You’re just starting to get the idea that Superman’s view of things is very…subjective?

Q: Batman’s angry and lashing out because he doesn’t have friends?

A: We once had a high school teacher tell us the same thing, so it might be true. Although we hadn’t created a spy satellite that was overtaken by a nefarious player and corrupted to achieve his goals. Now that would’ve made us bitter.

Q: That last panel – does Superman want Bruce to fight with him, or…

A: No, not pick out curtains. This isn’t the Wildstorm Universe.

Page 17:

Q: Wonder Woman is worried about bad PR?

A: Yes and no. She’s aware that the OMACs are sending out the images of the battle for Paradise Island around the world (with subjective edits), and Diana, aware that many people have lost their critical thinking skills thanks to the modern media, will buy the OMAC/Brother Eye version of events, that is, that (ignoring the fact that the OMACs are invading and attacking the Amazons) instead of being peace-loving, the Amazons are bloodthirsty and fight like warriors possessed – even when their home is invaded, apparently.

Q: And Wonder Woman surrenders not only to the OMACs and to this way of seeing things?

A: Hey – do recall that recently, in Greg Rucka’s run, Diana has had more than her fair share of run ins with the media and knows how the game can be played – and lost.

Q: So wait – the public has sympathy for the cold, impassionate robots effectively attacking and killing hot chicks? Doesn’t society always side with the hot chicks?

A: As suggested back a couple of pages with the Flash scene, yeah – some news stations are picking up the feed, proudly noting that it’s from an unknown source, and are putting their spin on it, reporting and deciding for their audience in one fell swoop – even though, as Linda West pointed out on that page, it goes against everything that the people know about Wonder Woman.

So yeah…apparently public opinion is being swayed for people to get their hate on for the Amazons.

Page 18:

Q: Retreating and running from an attack shows the world how much the Amazons value peace?

A: It is the Amazon way. When surrender is not an option (and yes, saying this keeps the France jokes out of this thread), as the OMACs would’ve slaughtered them, and the battle is being televised, run.

Page 19:

Q: Where are they going?

A: Somewhere else. Amazon witness relocation program, as run by the Gods. Not “of Olympus,” mind you, but female members of many different pantheons.

Page 20:

Q: What happened to Paradise Island?

A: It disappeared while the camera (courtesy of artist Phil Jimenez) pulled back. The end result, graphically showing how small and alone Diana is in Man’s World now.

Q: Will the Amazons be back? Or at least gone longer than Donna Troy?

A: Hard to say. While they appeared in Wonder Woman here and there, it’s hard to think of many fans clamoring for their return. Of course, there is the idea that favors granted by the gods, even something such as “get us outta here!” are pretty The Monkey’s Paw in their execution, so obviously, the fate of the missing Amazons is ripe for the picking.

Q: What does this mean for Wonder Woman?

A: No more weekends at home? Seriously, this does throw a monkey wrench into one of the elements Greg Rucka had played up in his run, that is, Diana was the acting ambassador of the island nation of Themyscria (or Paradise Island). The nation no longer exists.

But then, the ongoing Wonder Woman series is ending, with a new one coming soon, and DCU Executive Editor Dan DiDio says he doesn’t like to start things anew unless there’s a fresh spin or take on it.

Page 21:

Q: Luthor watching Luthor?

A: Right – one is from the main DCU, and as the blue-eyed on revealed at the end of Villains United, he’s the visitor from somewhere else. The “apex predator” of the planet.

Q: Luthor just ordered the Society to take down Black Adam?

A: Don’t you love it when the self righteous attack the self righteous?

Page 22:

Q: Again though – which Luthor is which?

A: Green eyed one in the super suit – he was the one who was President in the DCU, and went nuts at the end of the first arc of Superman/Batman. The other one – well, keep reading.

Q: Luthor said that his brainwaves operate on an “Anti-Frequency?”

A: There was someone once, during a Crisis who was all about the “Anti…” If we could just remember his name…

Page 23:

Q: This is still going on?

A: Like you would interrupt your grandfather?

Q: Batman says that this is all his fault?

A: Admission of a problem is the first step to recovery, although it’s looking like Batman is vying to take the place of Superman in Infinite Crisis of “hero acting like a woman.”

No offense to women meant.

Q: Superman said Dick Grayson of Earth-2 turned out worse than Dick of the DCU earth?

A: Yeah, that one stumped Troy as well, but we’re just going to chalk it up to Superman’s selective and interpretive version of history and view of the world of Earth-2, in general.

Page 24:

Q: Where’d that Kryptonite ring come from?

A: Originally, it belonged to Luthor, who had it made to hurt Superman shortly after the John Byrne reboot of Superman in the late ‘80s. Long story short, Luthor lost it, Superman found it, an gave it to Batman to use if ever one day he needed to stop Superman (it’s changed hands a few times since). Batman apparently thought this was the day, although it was the wrong Superman.

Q: What’s that countdown timer?

A: The time left until the security tapes from the JLA Watchtower’s destruction (Batman’s still on that case, remember?) back in JLA #120 will be repaired and available for viewing.

Page 25:

Q: What are those crystal shards?

A: The computer (a la Superman: The Movie’s crystal computers) of “a” Lex Luthor, which watches all. Of course, it’s interesting to note, it sees Captain Atom, who is currently in the Wildstorm Universe…and DiDio did say something about that

Q: And who’s the kid sitting on the bed?

A: Jaime – look in his hand – it’s the Blue Beetle Scarab. Either that, or it’s us, on a Friday night when we were 16, reading and re-reading the note from that girl named Erin who said she liked us…as a friend. Four words Erin: look at us now.

Q: So the blue-eyed Luthor is Alex Luthor?

A: Bingo – which means he’s been manipulating the Society throughout Villains United. This also makes sense in regards to why Luthor Blue Eyes wanted Pariah (and killed him – as he knew who he was as well as his involvement in the original Crisis), and Lady Quark (she was the sole survivor of a destroyed universe as well) in Villains United.

Page 26:

Q: Who’s ripping up Luthor’s armor?

A: Check the cuffs. He’s got the clean ones, not the “my wife knitted this sweater” ones.

Q: “You know what I can do when I’m in that yellow sun.” What does he mean?

A: It’s a hint about his power level – suggesting that, once charged up; he’s waaaay the heck more powerful than the DCU’s Superman.

Page 27:

Q: At this point, should we even assume that Lois wrote those journals?

Q: They were given to Kara when she was vulnerable and say just what she needed to hear. You be the judge. 50/50.

Pages 28-29:

Q: What the hell is that?

A: Ah – so this is a sequel to Crisis on Infinite Earths after all. That would be one of those dimensional tuning fork things that were used back on the day to keep the multiple earths in vibration/synch with each other. Although, given that this one has the remains of the Anti-Monitor strapped into it, it’s unlikely that this will be used for anything good.

And it probably can’t smell that good, what with the Anti-Monitor there…or his suit…since he was shown to be nothing more than energy in a suit at the end of the original Crisis.

Q: Who else is strapped to it?

A: the Martian Manhunter, Breach, the Ray, Lady Quark, and Black Adam. They way Alex Luthor keeps saying they need Kara, it’s likely one of the spots on the tower is for her. Each of the individuals, it could be argued, play an important role in the “multiverse” concept – some came from other earths, some came from destroyed realities, some seem to have power over the barriers between realities, and one seems to be utterly unique between Earth-1 and Earth-2.

Q: How did they get Black Adam up there?

A: You mean in the 59 seconds or so since Luthor authorized the Society to take him down a few pages back and bring him in? It all goes back to the Superman spot-welding the building thing. If you’re going to buy that, then these villains can do it. Besides – who wants to make Luthor by being late?

Page 30:

Q: Hooo….boy.

A: Right – Alex and Superboy are behind all of this. Hoo boy indeed.

Q: Wait – how was Alex Luthor able to go back and forth to and from his “prison” before, posting as Luthor to the Society, and then claiming that Superman of Earth-2 was the first to break the barrier?

A: Go back to the original Crisis - who built the “prison” that Superman, Superboy, Lois, and Alex inhabited?

Q: And Batman?

A: Oh, he’s pissed.

Quick Edit: "Monkey's Fist" changed to "Monkey's Paw," which is the actual title of the short story. "Monkey's Fist" is in an indication as to how many HK flicks we've seen since 8th grade English which allows us to completley muddle the two, and think nothing is wrong with it. We're sorry, Mrs. Williams.
 
Old 12-23-2005, 11:45 AM   #2
Jess
 
I'm so happy that these issues are extra-long! I love just looking at the pages and characters and how much Phil Jimenez fits into a page! His use of space and layouts are so tight, yet convey so much information! It's very inspiring!
 
Old 12-23-2005, 11:46 AM   #3
HowAreWeToLive
 
Thanks for the synopsis. The Dick Grayson thing still has me confused after 2 reads and this article. I think they're going to put Earth-2 Superman in the Anti-Monitor machine thingy.
 
Old 12-23-2005, 11:48 AM   #4
algertman
 
I think Alexander Luthor and Superboy are the greatest gay couple in comics history

also, good rundown
 
Old 12-23-2005, 11:48 AM   #5
AndrewP
 
Nice work.

I would like to know more about the Dick Grayson line though...maybe Dan Didio can explain it in the next Crisis Counselling?
 
Old 12-23-2005, 11:51 AM   #6
algertman
 
Quote:
Originally posted by AndrewP
Nice work.

I would like to know more about the Dick Grayson line though...maybe Dan Didio can explain it in the next Crisis Counselling?


are you talking about when Batman decided he wouldn't sacrifice all that Dick had done for his own personal happiness?
 
Old 12-23-2005, 11:54 AM   #7
fyedaddy
 
Quote:
Originally posted by AndrewP
Nice work.

I would like to know more about the Dick Grayson line though...maybe Dan Didio can explain it in the next Crisis Counselling?


Good idea.

Right now I can't decided if it's more about Bats actually ASKing the question to determine his actions (with the ring in this case), or was it a rhetorical question to Supe1 to prove a point before he acted (buying time or distraction to grab the ring)?
 
Old 12-23-2005, 11:57 AM   #8
JeffLane.net
 
Quote:
Originally posted by AndrewP
Nice work.

I would like to know more about the Dick Grayson line though...maybe Dan Didio can explain it in the next Crisis Counselling?


maybe DK2 is in Earth 2 continuity
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:04 PM   #9
Aaron Weisbrod
 
THe fine line between classic horror and Kung Fu...

Matt:

Errrm... I think the story you meant to reference in this article was The Monkey's Paw by W.W. Jacobs...

"The Monkey's Fist" sounds more like a Shaolin Kung-Fu strike or some sort of Tae Kwon Do poison-hand technique...

That aside, great article... especially the "attacked my daddy" line.

A warrior in mind and body,
Aaron Weisbrod
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:05 PM   #10
ManofTheAtom
 
Re: CRISIS RECOVERY 03: MORE ANNOTATED FUN WITH INFINITE CRISIS #3

Quote:
Originally posted by MattBrady
Page 30:

Q: Hooo….boy.

A: Right – Alex and Superboy are behind all of this. Hoo boy indeed.


Based on the covers to issue 4 I don't think it's fair to say that these two are behind all of this.

It could very well be part of Kal-L's plan to bring back Earth 2. Just think about it, how else but with a machine like this could he accomplish a feat like that?

If Alex and Superboy Prime are acting against Kal-L's wishes then why is he fighting Kal-El on the cover to issue 4?
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:06 PM   #11
EyesBL7
 
I understand why every person hooked up to that machine is important...except for Breach. Can anyone help me out with this?
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:08 PM   #12
JeffLane.net
 
Quote:
Originally posted by EyesBL7
I understand why every person hooked up to that machine is important...except for Breach. Can anyone help me out with this?

he's a ball of raw energy, and crossed over barriers with some stick looking guy a few times

Oh, sorry, you wanted a HELPFUL answer. I think I need to reread the series
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:15 PM   #13
Caleb Gerard
 
I don't think Old Superman meant that Old Dick Grayson wasn't as good... just no better.
Like: Is that Supercuts on Main better then the one on Central? No. But it's no worse either.

(God, that is a piss poor analogy, but I'm on less then 3 hours sleep here)

CJG
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:17 PM   #14
JeffLane.net
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Caleb Gerard
I don't think Old Superman meant that Old Dick Grayson wasn't as good... just no better.
Like: Is that Supercuts on Main better then the one on Central? No. But it's no worse either.

(God, that is a piss poor analogy, but I'm on less then 3 hours sleep here)

CJG


I got my ear chopped off at an Earth-3 Supercuts
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:24 PM   #15
lonewulf
 
Quote:
Originally posted by AndrewP
Nice work.

I would like to know more about the Dick Grayson line though...maybe Dan Didio can explain it in the next Crisis Counselling?


Many theories running aorund out there, but it's got to mean that E2 Supes didn't want to tell Batman that Dick died during the crisis and wouldn't be alive if E2 was brought back....right?

But if you take that line of thinking, how the heck could Batman even be alive if E2 were brought back? Golden age Batman died way before the crisis, so he wouldn't be able to exist either.....head hurts.
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:27 PM   #16
SouthtownKid
 
20 years ago, I quit reading the original Crisis about midway through. I liked Wolfman, I liked Perez (many of their other works remain favorites to this day), but so many of the pages were crammed with detail to the point of clutter; a punch in the eye so jam-packed, there wasn't much room for panel-to-panel storytelling. I got bored.

So far, for me, Infinite Crisis has been a more compelling read. There are some scenes, like the first couple pages of this issue or the first page of the Donna Troy team scene, where it's a bunch of tiny figures in too-narrow panels, mulling around doing sometimes unclear things (which really reminds me of the original Crisis...not the fault of the artists, but of the impossible job of showing everything that needs to be shown), but overall it's been pretty great.

It was also nice to see George's Flash page. I hope he has more pages here and there, throughout the series.
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:27 PM   #17
ManofTheAtom
 
Quote:
Originally posted by lonewulf
Many theories running aorund out there, but it's got to mean that E2 Supes didn't want to tell Batman that Dick died during the crisis and wouldn't be alive if E2 was brought back....right?

But if you take that line of thinking, how the heck could Batman even be alive if E2 were brought back? Golden age Batman died way before the crisis, so he wouldn't be able to exist either.....head hurts.


If history were rewritten then those deaths would be come meaningless as the characters are alive now.

The current characters, in this case Batman and Nightwing, would be rebooted to fit the new Earth 2 continuity.

Look at the original Crisis. The Earth 1 Wonder Woman died but came back as the Perez Wonder Woman. Helena Wayne died and was rebooted as Helena Bertinelli.
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:28 PM   #18
Squashua
 
Quote:
Originally posted by algertman
are you talking about when Batman decided he wouldn't sacrifice all that Dick...


OH MY GOD....

Quote:

Q: Who was the floating head behind Firestorm that said “Ronald?”

A: Ah, weirdness. That was Dr. Martin Stein [...] Stein has been dead and out of the picture for some time.

Q: And the guy who looks like he’s there on loan from Vegas?

A: Aha – that’s another version of Firestorm – the one that the original kinda sorta evolved into a while back.

But Martin Stein never died; he IS that evolved version, right? He's always been around, just hanging out in deep, deep space. I thought the last time we saw him was in (UGH) Extreme Justice. Isn't that spacefaring version just Martin Stein mixed with Pohzar(?), the russian guy? They've been around, but missing, for years.

Quote:

Q: Animal Man does what?

A: He can tap into the biological network (sometimes referred to as The Red) and copy the powers of any nearby animals. This one shoots lightning out of its face.

That seems to be an homage to the Lightning Beasts that gave the LoSH Lightning Lad/Livewire, Lightning Lass/Sparx, and Lightning Lord their powers.

Oh $#!+, I'm the guy who throws stones, aren't I?
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:29 PM   #19
GZR
 
Re: Re: CRISIS RECOVERY 03: MORE ANNOTATED FUN WITH INFINITE CRISIS #3

Quote:
Originally posted by ManofTheAtom
Based on the covers to issue 4 I don't think it's fair to say that these two are behind all of this.

It could very well be part of Kal-L's plan to bring back Earth 2. Just think about it, how else but with a machine like this could he accomplish a feat like that?

If Alex and Superboy Prime are acting against Kal-L's wishes then why is he fighting Kal-El on the cover to issue 4?


some guy you've never heard of comes and claims to be an alternate version of you and your wife woulfnt you wanna kick there ass?
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:31 PM   #20
ManofTheAtom
 
Re: Re: Re: CRISIS RECOVERY 03: MORE ANNOTATED FUN WITH INFINITE CRISIS #3

Quote:
Originally posted by GZR
some guy you've never heard of comes and claims to be an alternate version of you and your wife wouldn't you wanna kick there ass?


Only if he's being violent to me or threatening me or my wife, as is the case with Kal-L and the machine in this issue.
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:35 PM   #21
Simon DelMonte
 
Quote:
Originally posted by HowAreWeToLive
Thanks for the synopsis. The Dick Grayson thing still has me confused after 2 reads and this article. I think they're going to put Earth-2 Superman in the Anti-Monitor machine thingy.


Aside from the fact that the Earth-2 Dick Grayson died in Crisis I, he never amounted to much. No Titans, no Barabra Gordon, and a career forever living in the shadow of Batman in a way that never quite got resolved. Perhaps Dick might have amounted to something as a lawyer, but as a hero, he never really came into his own, even after Batman died. To his last day, he was Robin, sometimes called the ex-Boy Wonder.

The Dick we know and respect? He's ben his own man for ages now. And Kal-L knew that, and couldn't deny the truth. And interestingly, after everything that's happened, Batman knows just what his "son" has become.
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:38 PM   #22
SeamusMcClernan
 
Re: Re: CRISIS RECOVERY 03: MORE ANNOTATED FUN WITH INFINITE CRISIS #3

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It could very well be part of Kal-L's plan to bring back Earth 2. Just think about it, how else but with a machine like this could he accomplish a feat like that?


That's what I was thinking too.

Seems to me that everyone in that Limbo "prison" was a serious jerk - ecept Lois lane, but maybe she'll be pretty jerky too when she's feeling better.
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:39 PM   #23
algertman
 
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Originally posted by Squashua
OH MY GOD....





HAW!
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:39 PM   #24
GZR
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: CRISIS RECOVERY 03: MORE ANNOTATED FUN WITH INFINITE CRISIS #3

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Originally posted by ManofTheAtom
Only if he's being violent to me or threatening me or my wife, as is the case with Kal-L and the machine in this issue.


note to self.. don't F!ck with MOta's wife......
 
Old 12-23-2005, 12:42 PM   #25
Caleb Gerard
 
Question:

In the Amazon goodbye scene did I see Fury in the crowd? Thought she & her loser husband took Dream up on his offer in the latest JSA.
Or is that not Fury on Paradise Island?

CJG
 
 
   

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