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Old 08-16-2005, 01:31 AM   #1
MattBrady
 
APC BOSS RICHARD EMMS QUITS - JOINS MARKOSIA

Press Release

Publisher, EIC and Director of Brit based APC - the UK's current leader if action/adventure titles in US format - Richard Emms, has left his fledgling company - which he started in 1998 - and joined the recently formed Markosia team as EIC and Publishing Director.

Over the past few years the company has grown into something that can be compared to that of other larger independent companies - with its books constantly selling numbers in the top 300. Emms has been very appreciative of his creator's hard work and the achievements that have been made - but feels that he has to move on due to a lack of financial investment into the company that was due from small budget animated films based on its properties in early 2004.

Over the past three years the company has had many close calls with Hollywood studios with titles such as Darkham Vale, The Gloom and The Chase being seriously looked at as feature film material.

Emms joins Markosia with immediate affect and will take many new titles, including Midnight Kiss and Abiding Perdition with him to be published. In fact Midnight Kiss and Abiding Perdition will be the first books available from Markosia and will ship in late August.

Emms comments on his departure:

"It's been a tough time for me and APC as I have done everything in my power to keep the company going without any financial gain for myself. Working over 100 hours a week and doing all of the day to day jobs within the company such as packaging books for mail order, sorting DCD deliveries and all of the design and print work - it really has knocked me into the ground . Add to that maintaining all of our appearances at comic shows both here and in the USA. the whole thing has been very, very demanding - but I have loved every minute of it".

"Markosia approached me last year to work with them on the forthcoming Shadowmancer book - as there was a reason why APC could not solely produce or license the series - and within a few months we had built a very strong work relationship. In fact at the same time that Markosia offered me to work, full time, I was offered a job position with a London based company to head its new comic/graphic novel publishing department. But due to being a bad asthmatic I decided that I could not do the travelling - although the salary was very appealing. The same company approached me again this year with a better offer but I had already made my mind up - as it's not always about the money - and I knew my family life would suffer again. Markosia has a very bright future".

"In the end I needed help. and I'll be the first to admit that. There's only so much one person can do without any help whatsoever and as things got tighter financially the joy of publishing comics diminished and that's not a good thing both morally and personally to be faced with. Now at Markosia I can do what I love doing and that's getting new projects off the ground and working with some exciting new creators".

"The final nail in the coffin for me was that our printers have neglected to deliver our books on time. In fact The Lexian Chronicles #2 - which was due to ship to us in June, but was printed in April, is due to arrive next week in the UK. That's nearly 5 months late. Another book that went to print on time was Mr.T #2 - and now a month and a half late. We have now found another printer for the Markosia books and hopefully, looking at the early quotes, they'll be cheaper so we can finally bring the cover prices down to $2.99. Regardless to price, the high production values will not change".

"APC's sales were very good for the current stale climate, but out of the 130 or so books that we produced only one ever made money. The majority of independent comic titles barely sell in the region of 1200-1600 copies for an first issue. We were achieving far better sales than the norm and I always made sure that the creators got a major slice of the profits. Our sales could be compared to that of Image, SLG and Oni. which impresses a lot of other publishers, but doesn't impress the bank manager!!!".

"I really see a bright future working with a team (Markosia) that really work hard together and are trying to bring comics to a wider audience. Already they've made impressive strides into the Japanese market and for 2006 they have at least 3 major novels that will be translated into comic series. The good news is that the creators that have been working with me for the past 3 years have been offered the chance to work on these new projects, earning good rates for their work".

"I'd like to thank everyone who have supported us, APC, over the past years and I hope they continue to support me again, the creative teams and Markosia".

Richard Emms can be still contacted at Rich@apcomics.com

Or via the Markosia website. www.markosia.com
 
Old 08-16-2005, 11:57 AM   #2
NickSchley
 
Ah, yes. . . change.

I for one know...that this switch to Markosia is a great thing. I'm sure my studio mates (that all work for Rich in some capacity) will stop by here and express the same feelings. Rich is a great person to work with/for. As i've had Abiding Perdition at APC, and now at APC/Markosia i don't know that i'd rather be publishing anywhere else. A new book from Abaraya Studios, 3030 AD will be published through Rich Emms and Markosia. And there is just no way in hell Adam Frizzell, Dash Martin or myself would publish with anyone....if it wasn't the absolute best place to be...

aight enough of my $o.o2...

Rich Emms/Markosia = great people/good times all around.

Nick
 
Old 08-16-2005, 12:58 PM   #3
CMARTIN
 
Good luck guys, the APC books look sharp and I buy all the titles. I really like Mr. T the best and I picked up Abiding Perdition and some others at Wizard World Chicago. Keep up the high production values, the books look great!

Check out my ebay auctions

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Old 08-16-2005, 07:30 PM   #4
Inaki Miranda
 
I have been very closely following Rich’s steps with APC almost since it started and have to say it has been a blast of an experience. The Chase is a reality thanks to him and his support. I only have great words for him and a huge feeling of thankfulness for opening me the door when I found so many closed. He’s a guy to trust, he’s never let me down… and for a creator who’s just starting out, that’s a great thing.
When I had to decide to stop publishing The Chase after issue 3, Rich was there to make sure I could keep walking on and offered me a new great new book: The Lexian Chronicles . Now TLC is somehow the pathfinder of this new publishing venture transition and I’m glad to be onboard. The guys at Markosia are as great as Rich, so this can only be good for everyone. So, just keep stepping as usual, Rich…the only way to go is up! BTW, I’m missing that curry! Thanks for everything, dood!

Inaki

www.inakieva.com

Last edited by Inaki Miranda : 08-16-2005 at 07:36 PM.
 
Old 08-17-2005, 02:52 AM   #5
CARNIVAL
 
RICH EMMS ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rich is a class act all the way! I'm working with him on JAZAN WILD'S CARNIVAL OF SOULS coming out this Halloween! Markosia and Rich will change the Comic Book Industry!!!!!!!!!!!! He's kinda sexy too!!!!!!!!!
 
Old 08-18-2005, 04:24 PM   #6
Bakema NL
 
APC has some interesting things going on, but Markosia too, already ordered a title from them.......hopefully both companies can survive.
 
Old 08-23-2005, 03:23 PM   #7
netzart
 
Sympathy for Richard Emms?

The sad part about Richard Emms is that he's gone the way of other comics publishers who know how to suck their creators dry and discard them like a bloody rag afterwards. The creators on whose back Richard Emms made his living.

Richard Emms has been dodging three creators who came to aid APComics on Mr. T #3. Mike Kelleher, James Taylor and myself have been told by Emms that he will not take responsibility for Mr. T's writer and project manager, Chris Bunting, who brought us in to help out. The work we produced for APComics will not be paid for, Emms said.

I'd like to feel some sympathy for Emms predicament, but under the circumstances, it's difficult. Our correspondences were characterised by connivery and excuses he persisted with in order to save himself a few hundred dollars.

A comics publisher who can allow himself such thievery perhaps deserves to have his enterprise collapse.
 
Old 08-24-2005, 09:51 AM   #8
CARNIVAL
 
RICH EEMS A GREAT ADDITION TO MARKOSIA!!

Rich has been such a pleasure to work with, I'm so happy he has decided to be a part of Markosia. Richard you are Class Act and I look forward to years of creating great stories!


Enter the Carnival this Halloween at Markosia!

CARNIVAL OF SOULS!
 
Old 08-24-2005, 01:35 PM   #9
geegeecarl
 
Re: RICH EEMS A GREAT ADDITION TO MARKOSIA!!

Quote:
Originally posted by CARNIVAL
Rich has been such a pleasure to work with, I'm so happy he has decided to be a part of Markosia. Richard you are Class Act and I look forward to years of creating great stories!


Enter the Carnival this Halloween at Markosia!

CARNIVAL OF SOULS!


This is all very touching stuff but instead of following someone through shere blind loyalty Jason, you should look at the facts. some of which were presented by creators burned by Richard Emms on the official APC forum today [http://www.phpbbforfree.com/forums/apcomics.html] before it was taken offline! Firstly how long have you worked for Richard Emms? from what I understand you've not a thing published with him yet. Wait until your comic comes out first if he pays the printers this time that is! Then if by a mircale it does actually come out, then when he doesn't pay you, like he's earning a well deserved reputation for not doing,then let's see you come back and sing his praises. When your time comes Jason you can't say you didn't see any warning signs! But this isn't personal to or against you.People need to get their head out of the clouds here, Emms looks to be using classic confidence man techniques.for those that don't know what I mean the abbreviated version is "con man".

peace,
Carl G.

Last edited by geegeecarl : 08-24-2005 at 01:41 PM.
 
Old 08-24-2005, 04:13 PM   #10
NickSchley
 
controversy abound!!!!

hahaha...i cannot really comment on Rich's prior dealings....but i would say ..that so far the road i've travelled with him....has been relatively smoothe. I started with Rich on DarkhamVale: Uprising..which was COVER'd in controversy.. Darkhamvale kinda fizzled to a hault....no fault of Rich's or anyones really..just kinda one of those deals.. I decided to publish my creator owned property Abiding PErdition through him... Rich funded a Ramos cover for my 1st issue... About him being a con man...i'd say that's being a bit harsh...sometimes business deals go awry. But once again i can't testify for ____ i don't know about...

all i know is that i was fired from MR T.. as well...so i feel yalls pain for sure..

my studio mate Dash martin was fired from the project in the begining....but now he's taken over reigns as the colorist..

it's a ruff situation to be in/speak about... Abiding PErditoin thanx to the hundreds of awesome comic fans and Rich..putting a bit of money behind it....for the Ramos cover, has done extremely well numbers. And hopefully we can continue the climb..

now i'm just rambling...but until i see otherwise....Rich and Harry are good people and my dealings with them...has been a very nice experience.

Nick Schley- Abaraya Studios

Last edited by NickSchley : 08-24-2005 at 04:46 PM.
 
Old 08-24-2005, 04:22 PM   #11
netzart
 
Re: Re: RICH EEMS A GREAT ADDITION TO MARKOSIA!!

Quote:
Originally posted by geegeecarl
Emms looks to be using classic confidence man techniques.for those that don't know what I mean the abbreviated version is "con man".

Well said, Carl. I've received several correspondences from comics creators regarding what I posted here about Emms and telling of their misfortune with him. We'll see how long this new "con Job" he's pulling on Markosia lasts.

Personally, I'd like to see Rich take one small step to reconciling this situation. I'm not crossing my fingers, though. He appears to have chosen the opposite direction.
 
Old 08-24-2005, 04:50 PM   #12
MARKOSIA
 
Markosia responds.

As Managing Director of Markosia I feel that it is time for a response, now that my company has been dragged into this 'dispute'.

As far as Markosia is concerned, Richard Emms has been employed as Publishing Director with a view to co-ordinating our various projects, as well as bringing in some excellent new projects that he has either been involved with in the past, or which he thinks have the potential to succeed.

Richard Emms is not pulling a 'con job' on Markosia, as the last poster has claimed. We have complete faith in Richard and his experience in the comic industry is a great boon for my company. We are very pleased indeed to have him on board and the results of his excellent hard work will be there for all to see in the next few months when our first titles are released.

Markosia has gained a good reputation in the short time that we have been involved in this business, and one reason is the fact that we pay our creators on time and at the agreed contracted rates. We make it clear that the only time we will not pay for work is if the work is very late or of a substandard nature which would damage the quality of our books. This is made clear to everyone concerned with us, and everyone is extremely pleased to be involved. To suggest that Richard Emms is pulling a 'con job' on us, or with us, is frankly offensive.

I can only assume that the reasons for Richard's alleged non-payment of the two members above are similar reasons to why we would not pay.

Markosia is committed to bringing quality and unique comic books to the world, and we would not have taken the giant strides that we have made without Richard Emms. The creators involved with Markosia are happy to be involved, and any problems are addressed quickly and to the satisfaction of all concerned.

It saddens me to see a man who has worked so tirelessly to bring great comics to the world slandered in such a way.
I for one back Richard Emms 100%, now and hopefully for a very long time.

Harry Markos
Managing Director
Markosia Enterprises Ltd
 
Old 08-24-2005, 06:02 PM   #13
netzart
 
Re: Markosia responds.

Quote:
Originally posted by MARKOSIA
I can only assume that the reasons for Richard's alleged non-payment of the two members above are similar reasons to why we would not pay.


Nothing I posted here is meant to reflect badly on Markosia, Harry, and I apologize if you felt it did. My contention is with a specific issue regarding a dealing I had with Richard Emms, while he made his move to your enterprise.

Frankly, your assumption that Richard's non-payment to Mike Kelleher, James Taylor and myself is due to a shortcoming on our part can also be perceived as offensive. We came to help in a deadline crunch and did so without any written contract, due to the time limitation on the work. Our good faith in APComics was soon shattered by Richard's excuses for why he didn't feel he needed to pay us.

The following letter is from a correspondence I had with him regarding this. Notice how he blames everyone and their uncle for the mishap and refuses to take responsibility for his enterprise.



Hi Michael,

I do appreciate your views about the cancellation of Mr T but I can asure you that I did not agree for anyone else to do the inks apart from Randy and his team.

Chris had no reason to agree (without my knowledge) to inkers. I am the publisher and Chris is the creator/liaison with Mr.T's agent. I make all final decisions and taking on extra inkers and colorists outside of Randy and Dash is something I was extremely worried about as we have had to turn down several inkers due to Mr.T's agent not being happy with their style. In fact the last comment made by his agent was "Randy has to stay on board full stop - no one else will do".

In fact after speaking personally with T's agent last night, I have had conflicting stories that I have now been made aware of. One of them is that he (T's agent) didn't even know about the translation of Mr.T #1 in the Japanese comic market. Another is that he was happy for another inker to work on the book as long as it looked like Mr.T. So much the case that prior to this knowledge I was worried about the deadlines and got Nick Schley to do a try page (which was awesome) to carry on with and finish issue #3 - as Randy was late with issue #2 (handing in the last two pages of inks after two weeks vacation/holiday time with family - so I understand).

The thing is that I wanted to carry on with the series as the sales were fantastic. But this, for me, is the final nail in the coffin for the book. And I don't blame you for that. The funny thing is that I make more money from Dark Mists than Mr.T - the whole thing is crazy.

I'm really sorry that this has worked out this way and if I could have sorted the mess out sooner I would have - but due to the SDCC and two days of Jet lag it wasn't until last Thursday I was able to go though the pages that had been uploaded to the ftp site.

Richard Emms
APComics
EIC/Publisher


As you can see, Harry, from Rich's own letter, the issue wasn't any shortcoming on the part of the creators - rather a series of excuses Rich makes for how the project was handled. Chris Bunting represented APComics as project manager and the laison who brought Mr. T. to APC. Chris was lauded by Rich for similar steps he took earlier on in the project - but now, in light of Richard's plans to desert a sinking ship, he's also become a target of Rich's blame.

Frankly, I don't care who's responsible for Rich's misfortune. His whining and blaming everyone else only reflects badly on himself. A publisher with any ethical backbone would not have stiffed the creators who came to his aid in such a situation.

It's no longer a matter of the negligent rate for several pages he owes us - it's a matter of principle and ethics. How long will Richard Emms persist to hide behind his pathetic whining, invoking an impression that the creators who came to help him were the ones who failed him?

Until Richard Emms musters the courage to resolve this situation with us, personally and directly, I'm afraid our assault on his character and methods will continue.

If this is offensive to you, Harry, I'd suggest you advise Rich to take some steps to putting out this fire.

Your implying that our work wasn't worthy of being paid for, by the way, also puts you at the other end of this criticism. Please be careful with the insinuations you're making.

Michael Netzer
Chief Executive Officer
Flaming Sword Productions

Last edited by netzart : 08-24-2005 at 06:14 PM.
 
Old 08-24-2005, 07:37 PM   #14
Richard Emms
 
Hi Michael,

Firstly you have no rights to start accusing me of problems that have been completely out of my control and in the hands of a guy who was trusted to make sure we did not run into problems such as this.

I warned Chris of the lateness of Mr.T way back in April - when I was witnessing delays on pages even for a 6 page preview issue.

I have been in the business long enough to understand and see potential problems when artwork is not handed in on time. You have to be in a publisher's position to understand the financial implications of such failings if deadlines are not met. And indeed these failings are partly to blame for the demise of APComics as well as several books of ours never seeing the light of day in the UK and USA - and still sit in a warehouse, with several Markosia books that were printed some 2,3 or 4 months ago and have been neglected to be sent to us in timely fashion.

Mr.T #3 - which you worked on - fell into extreme lateness. I contacted Chris before I left for the SDCC and told him that if we did not get this book to print the week I got back from the SDCC then we would have to cancel and resolicit - after all we would have the majority of the book finished. This is a common practise for indie publishers who fail to meet deadline but still have confidence with its titles. Chris assured me that Randy and his team would complete on time and that we would hit deadline.

Now here comes the interesting fact that was told to me by Chris only a few weeks prior to all this ____ hitting the fan.

I was worried, some months ago, that Mr.T was falling into lateness so I decided to try and look for inkers who could get us back on track.

Chris told me - by phone and e-mail - that "in no was Randy and his team to be replaced by anyone!!!" - this, he said, he was told, by Mr.T's agent on the phone, which I respected... as we have had so many art teams, pages and covers turned down because they did not feel happy with the way Mr.T was being represented in the comic book series.

So when I returned from the SDCC and Chris has hired 3 inkers that have different styles to Randy and completely different to that of what had been produced prior, surely one has to be a bit "concerned" that these pages would be turned down.

If we went to print - this book could have been "pulled" by Mr.T's agent if he was not happy with the final product. Something that would have cost me thousands to do. My moto is "better safe than sorry". After all I have to adhere to the contract that was signed.

I then decided to cancel the book after reviewing each page and talk to Mr.T's agent explaining the problems that had arisen. I wanted to be honest about the screw-ups that had happened and I offered to resolicit issue #3 for a December shipping date. T's agent was happy to do so and was happy for Chris, Neil, Dash and I to continue to work on the book.

I'm afraid at the end of the day, Chris panicked. This guy has worked long and hard hours to get Mr.T off the ground (along side me) and I'm sure he didn't want this book to fail in anyway. I really do think your work is of a very high standard - but when the publisher is at the mercy of a contract of which artwork needs approval and that you've been told that the art team has to "stay" whatever the costs, has spent thousands of dollars on "unused" pages - surely you can see my position. You have to draw the line somewhere ('scuse the pun).

For me, letting go of APComics... well, it has been a very hard time, but I believe it was the right decision. Working with Markosia has allowed the creators who have projects currently at APComics to continue... of which I don't expect a penny from. I've worked many hours without any financial rewards - in fact Mr.T #1 has made me a personal loss of some £2500 ($4000)... so anyone accusing me of being a "con man" - well, matey, you are barking up the wrong tree.


Rich
 
Old 08-24-2005, 08:33 PM   #15
Crantz Rosen
 
From what I've read here, it seems as if it's actually Chris Bunting who owes you guys (Michael, James, Mike) that paycheck and not Rich...since Chris hired you and Rich didn't. I mean, if you were hired by a floor supervisor in a store, without the store manager's knowledge, worked a day and at the end of said day the store manager told you the floor supervisor wasn't supposed to hire anyone, would you expect the store manager to pay for the mistake or would you confront the supervisor who made the mistake in the first place about your paycheck for the mistaken employment? Perhaps you should send all payment inquires to Chris instead...since it would seem to be the more moral and logical thing to do.
 
Old 08-24-2005, 09:14 PM   #16
netzart
 
Hello Rich,

It's good to have a dialogue with you again after having thought that the earth had swallowed you because you didn't answer my emails - until I read this news about your move to Markosia, that is.

I'm somewhat disheartened at your blaming Chris for the entire affair and have heard Chris' side of the story as well. I wouldn't presume to interfere in the internal goings on at APC but I do have a few questions about your allegations.

1) Was not Chris given editorial and project managing freedom within his position as project manager, writer and liason with Mr. T's agent?

"I have authorized art for Mr.T before WITHOUT getting Rich’s personal authorization (two variant covers by John McCrea & Jeff Purves) and I was warmly congratulated each time.

And as official liason with the license holders, I wield a significant amount of power on approvals, which aren’t a huge or lengthy problem any more anyway. In fact despite Rich’s seeming protestations to the contrary, I hold more approval sway and power on the book than anyone/everyone (including Rich) bar the license holders, who – and I’ve told Rich this before – have entrusted me personally with a significant amount of say/responsibility." - Chris Bunting


2) Why are there so many contradictory elements to your allegations and concerns about what Mr. T's agents would or wouldn't accept?

"Another is that he was happy for another inker to work on the book as long as it looked like Mr.T. -Richard Emms."

3) Why does Chris Bunting have to pay other freelancers for work they've done for you while he himself hasn't received a single penny for all the work he's done for Mr. T.?

"If Rich HAD paid me for anything thus far (I’ve yet to receive a cent for my entire work for Mr.T: I even pitched the project to him originally), I would even consider paying you what I could out of my own wages, before my own personal owings! But, alas, the first word there is 'if'." - Chris Bunting

I'm sorry Richard, but the court of public opinon would forthrightly condemn you of connivery and thievery for your handling of this situation.

Be brave, Richard Emms. Take responsibility for your enterprise and stop abusing those who work with you.

Stop weasling and squirming around like a slimey snake and do the right thing. Pay the wages to those who worked for you. Cease and decist from accusing others and stand tall for the responsibility you have as a publisher.

If you don't do so now, this matter will haunt you not only at Markosia - but at every other step you take in your dismal career.

I hate to be so rough with you, Richard. I'll promptly show you tenderness and respect again once I see a sign of remorse for the stain you bring upon the comics industry and everyone associated with you.

I do look forward for a change of heart from you, Richard.

Michael

Last edited by netzart : 08-24-2005 at 11:46 PM.
 
Old 08-24-2005, 09:42 PM   #17
netzart
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Crantz Rosen
From what I've read here, it seems as if it's actually Chris Bunting who owes you guys (Michael, James, Mike) that paycheck and not Rich...since Chris hired you and Rich didn't. I mean, if you were hired by a floor supervisor in a store, without the store manager's knowledge, worked a day and at the end of said day the store manager told you the floor supervisor wasn't supposed to hire anyone, would you expect the store manager to pay for the mistake or would you confront the supervisor who made the mistake in the first place about your paycheck for the mistaken employment? Perhaps you should send all payment inquires to Chris instead...since it would seem to be the more moral and logical thing to do.


It's not a good analogy, Crantz. Chris had the authority to hire arists - without Rich's approval - when it served Rich's purpose.

On Chris Bunting's behalf, the following is his accounting of the events, sent to the artists whom Rich refuses to pay.


Hi James and both Mikes,

Chris Bunting here.

There’s a lot of politics going on at APComics right now, which frankly I simply wouldn’t have room or time to explain here and don’t want to bore you with anyway!

Firstly I’d like to get a few things straight:

I am not APComics, an owner, a shareholder, or an employee of any kind. I’m a freelance writer.

However I do also act as editor, project manager and liason with the license holders on Mr.T (all on an unpaid, voluntary basis I may add).

APComics is essentially and totally Richard Emms.

I have authorized art for Mr.T before WITHOUT getting Rich’s personal authorization (two variant covers by John McCrea & Jeff Purves) and I was warmly congratulated each time.

And as official liason with the license holders, I weld a significant amount of power on approvals, which aren’t a huge or lengthy problem any more anyway.

In fact despite Rich’s seeming protestations to the contrary, I hold more approval sway and power on the book than anyone/everyone (including Rich) bar the license holders, who – and I’ve told Rich this before – have entrusted me personally with a significant amount of say/responsibility.

The story boiled down was: Rich told me of this very important deadline, and said that we MUST meet it. He then left the UK and went off to San Diego USA without leaving any system or backup creators in place to get this deadline meet.

I took it upon myself as official liason/project manager/editor to track down suitable and talented creators willing to help us: namely James Taylor, Mike Kelleher, Michael Netzer.

I knew that if we didn’t meet this deadline there would be a very lengthy resolicit for this book: this was in clear, direct breach of APC’s contract with the license holders, and therefore I didn’t dare let this situation arise.

Not only that, but Mr.T is a very new and popular book: a close to half-year resolicit at this stage means that everybody loses out: the publisher, the license holders, the retailers, the creative team, and of course, the readers.

My personal opinion was, and steadfast remains, that a Mr.T comic resolicit to late 2005 is the kiss of death for this title. On a related note, APC are contracted to run it on a monthly basis from #1 for a set amount of issues before term re-negotiations: simply put APC cannot simply cancel it / resolicit it as they see fit, or let is die away before this time expires.

On his return, I told Rich that we WOULD meet the deadline as I had a talented bunch of guys helping out and who were busting a gut and doing some really nice work despite the pressure.

While he openly appeared to like each guest creator’s style, the patchwork/piecemeal appearance was annoying him, which frankly I’m sure we can all understand and appreciate.

As publisher, if Rich choose not to run the book due to this, it was his decision and a fair one too. (With exception of his own agreements and contract/s of course.)

Yet after some discussion between us, Rich then agreed to publish #3 after all. A short while later, he changed his mind, this time on the basis of sales.

I am now being told that Rich is refusing to pay you for work done and that I had no authorization to hire you. All that I have said shows that yes, AP/Rich SHOULD pay you despite the likelihood of your work never being used, and that I stand by my authorizing it, with what I have outlined above as proof.

Rich seems happy to behave this way, whereas I do not, and am here fully and completely disassociating myself with his work ethics.

If Rich HAD paid me for anything thus far (I’ve yet to receive a cent for my entire work for Mr.T: I even pitched the project to him originally), I would even consider paying you what I could out of my own wages, before my own personal owings! But, alas, the first word there is "if".

Even so, I remain adamant that I:

1. had full authorization and approval power;
2. Rich should/must pay you;
3. apologize for involving you in this situation, one I’ve had no control over and really no idea would happen.

I wanted it to be a fun experience for us all, and I was genuinely excited to be working with you all. James, whose work for Penny-Farthing is sensational, Mike Kelleher who’s colors rocked MVCreations and many others before now rocking Marvel, and Michael Netzer, a guy hard to describe due to having really done it all and having added significance due to his involvement on the old T-Force series. A big, big thank you to each and every one of you for you help. I hope that Rich is more forthcoming with your payments.


It would be refreshing for Richard Emms to show half of the integrity and sacrifice that Chris Bunting has shown in this affair.

Until then, blaming Chris will not help Rich's case at all, I'm afraid.

Michael
 
Old 08-25-2005, 04:20 AM   #18
DJ MacKinnon
 
Oh lovely...I guess this means I won't see a cent for my colours on Mr. T #2 or the final pages of Darkham Vale: Uprising.
 
Old 08-25-2005, 05:18 AM   #19
Richard Emms
 
yet another false statement from Chris.

"If Rich HAD paid me for anything thus far (I’ve yet to receive a cent for my entire work for Mr.T: I even pitched the project to him originally), I would even consider paying you what I could out of my own wages, before my own personal owings! But, alas, the first word there is "if".

Ask Chris about that £250 for Mr.T #1 that mysteriously appeared into his account last week (paid in cash for quicker clearance)... well that must have been sent by his fairy god-mother. It must have been a dream when we talked about "once payment has cleared - you would be paid!" or is this a way of getting people to sympathise with his misfortunes.

Also add to that £300 worth of expenses (paid for out of my pocket) so Chris could come down to sign copies of the book at the Comic Expo show in the UK and feel like he was part of the APC team. Everyone else paid for themselves as they knew that funds were tight until we got books out via DCD. No other small press publisher does that for its creators. Or am I wrong?

And, Don... yes you will be paid. Mr.T #2 has been published and my guarantee to you was payment for all printed work. The fact remains that due to the book has not arriving at DCD yet, although we sent the book to print nearly 2 and half months ago, we won't get paid until late September. Have I ever let you down with payment before? Have I always paid you via paypal for work I was happy with and had been printed?

Chris goes on to say that resoliciting the book would be a "kiss of death". My point to Chris on the phone last night that was "Mr.T fans will be Mr.T fans until the day hell freezes over, so regardless to a resolicit, the sales should be the same". I want to be honest with the fans for the delays... and I think they would appreciate the fact that we all screwed up.

This is what I hate. As soon as something goes wrong people start pointing fingers without knowing what goes on behind closed doors.

As for putting as much work and sacrifice into the Mr.T comic series - well, who do you think letters, designs and gets the book to print? Ah, yes... must be my fairy god-mother.

Rich
 
Old 08-25-2005, 05:37 AM   #20
Mr.C
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Richard Emms
Hi Michael,

Firstly you have no rights to start accusing me of problems that have been completely out of my control and in the hands of a guy who was trusted to make sure we did not run into problems such as this.

I warned Chris of the lateness of Mr.T way back in April - when I was witnessing delays on pages even for a 6 page preview issue.

I have been in the business long enough to understand and see potential problems when artwork is not handed in on time. You have to be in a publisher's position to understand the financial implications of such failings if deadlines are not met. And indeed these failings are partly to blame for the demise of APComics as well as several books of ours never seeing the light of day in the UK and USA - and still sit in a warehouse, with several Markosia books that were printed some 2,3 or 4 months ago and have been neglected to be sent to us in timely fashion.

Mr.T #3 - which you worked on - fell into extreme lateness. I contacted Chris before I left for the SDCC and told him that if we did not get this book to print the week I got back from the SDCC then we would have to cancel and resolicit - after all we would have the majority of the book finished. This is a common practise for indie publishers who fail to meet deadline but still have confidence with its titles. Chris assured me that Randy and his team would complete on time and that we would hit deadline.

Now here comes the interesting fact that was told to me by Chris only a few weeks prior to all this ____ hitting the fan.

I was worried, some months ago, that Mr.T was falling into lateness so I decided to try and look for inkers who could get us back on track.

Chris told me - by phone and e-mail - that "in no was Randy and his team to be replaced by anyone!!!" - this, he said, he was told, by Mr.T's agent on the phone, which I respected... as we have had so many art teams, pages and covers turned down because they did not feel happy with the way Mr.T was being represented in the comic book series.

So when I returned from the SDCC and Chris has hired 3 inkers that have different styles to Randy and completely different to that of what had been produced prior, surely one has to be a bit "concerned" that these pages would be turned down.

If we went to print - this book could have been "pulled" by Mr.T's agent if he was not happy with the final product. Something that would have cost me thousands to do. My moto is "better safe than sorry". After all I have to adhere to the contract that was signed.

I then decided to cancel the book after reviewing each page and talk to Mr.T's agent explaining the problems that had arisen. I wanted to be honest about the screw-ups that had happened and I offered to resolicit issue #3 for a December shipping date. T's agent was happy to do so and was happy for Chris, Neil, Dash and I to continue to work on the book.

I'm afraid at the end of the day, Chris panicked. This guy has worked long and hard hours to get Mr.T off the ground (along side me) and I'm sure he didn't want this book to fail in anyway. I really do think your work is of a very high standard - but when the publisher is at the mercy of a contract of which artwork needs approval and that you've been told that the art team has to "stay" whatever the costs, has spent thousands of dollars on "unused" pages - surely you can see my position. You have to draw the line somewhere ('scuse the pun).

For me, letting go of APComics... well, it has been a very hard time, but I believe it was the right decision. Working with Markosia has allowed the creators who have projects currently at APComics to continue... of which I don't expect a penny from. I've worked many hours without any financial rewards - in fact Mr.T #1 has made me a personal loss of some £2500 ($4000)... so anyone accusing me of being a "con man" - well, matey, you are barking up the wrong tree.


Rich


Keep playing the blame game, Rich.

Who's fault is it now? Mine? Randy's? your dog's?

Answer me these questions:

Just why was Mr.T #1 late?

Why is Mr.T #2 late? In fact, where is it??

Why is Mr.T #3 late?


As for approvals etc, for intents and purposes, I WAS the approval person. Plus your constant attempts to replace a worldclass inker with another who frankly was sub-standard, esp on a title as high profile & big as Mr.T, just wasn't going to happen. The variant cover the latter did? Point blank refused. But you know all this, Rich!

No, I didn't "panic". Do I sound like the panicky sort? As editor, project manager, liason and approval person all in one ... and I might add I have also been listed by Rich on many occassions as APC's actual EDITOR IN CHIEF ... I took it upon myself in capacity as such to act in everyone's best interests while Rich took an extended break at San Diego. Two extra days right? With an all important deadline looming right? That's a bit odd...

Now your excuses are changing as per normal Rich: saying you were convinced it'd be Randy and his team doing the inking. Now with the above in mind this is very much a side issue, if that ... but you knew Randy would be at SDCC too. I didn't assure you of completion until you returned, when the other guys were helping out: in fact the opposite. I requested repeatedly before you left for SDCC that I and/or you look round for extra help to get Mr.T #3 completed for the all important deadline in time. Your response? "I won't have time Chris". You won't have time to look after your best selling title? That's very odd. So please just get your facts straight at least, Rich.

Yes ... apparently Mr.T, APC's bestselling title ever has made a loss everyone. (I can't work it out either.) And don't go on about a contract with the license holders, Rich, and completely dismiss it when it suits you.

And so the world can see, and I have stated this again and again: yes, Rich shoulddo the right thing and pay the guys (and everyone else) and stop all this nonense.

One other thing, as expressed on the APC forums already by myself: Rich changed his mind at one stage, agreed after all to run Mr.T #3 as it'd been done, and he even began lettering it up. Therein lies the real tale.

It's very sad it's come to this, but I stand by what I've said here, the APC forum and the email's Michael Netzer's copied on here.

Chris
(writer/editor/project manager/official liason/approvals/editor in chief/guy who's got writing to do so has to go for now).
 
Old 08-25-2005, 06:04 AM   #21
Mr.C
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Richard Emms
Ask Chris about that £250 for Mr.T #1 that mysteriously appeared into his account last week (paid in cash for quicker clearance)... well that must have been sent by his fairy god-mother. It must have been a dream when we talked about "once payment has cleared - you would be paid!" or is this a way of getting people to sympathise with his misfortunes.

Also add to that £300 worth of expenses (paid for out of my pocket) so Chris could come down to sign copies of the book at the Comic Expo show in the UK and feel like he was part of the APC team. Everyone else paid for themselves as they knew that funds were tight until we got books out via DCD. No other small press publisher does that for its creators. Or am I wrong?


yep, after over an estimated 25 emails to Rich-APC chasing my payments, more which were often met with silence than not (while all others dealing with other topics sent before & after were responded to quickly and directly), Rich did finally ... after a long, long wait ... pay me £250 last week. Last week, AFTER the email I sent to the 3 guys which was copied here.

As for the £300 -- you offered to pay, Rich (Mr. Publisher), your choice and it benefited your company. So can't see why on earth that's at all relevant. Oh and your "small press" again now are you? Not the UK's leading independent publisher?

Honestly, Rich, when you're in a hole, mate...

Chris.
 
Old 08-25-2005, 07:13 AM   #22
fatfattyfatfat
 
Quote:
Originally posted by netzart
Be brave, Richard Emms. Take responsibility for your enterprise and stop abusing those who work with you.

Stop weasling and squirming around like a slimey snake and do the right thing. Pay the wages to those who worked for you. Cease and decist from accusing others and stand tall for the responsibility you have as a publisher.

If you don't do so now, this matter will haunt you not only at Markosia - but at every other step you take in your dismal career.

I hate to be so rough with you, Richard. I'll promptly show you tenderness and respect again once I see a sign of remorse for the stain you bring upon the comics industry and everyone associated with you.

I do look forward for a change of heart from you, Richard.

Michael [/b]


I have known Richard personally for probably over 10 years now and have also worked for APC (For which I got paid) To say he abuses the people who work with him is FALSE. I also have inked several pages for Mr T#3 for which I DO NOT EXPECT TO SEE PAYMENT FOR AS THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE USED. Its as simple as that and I have no problem with this due to the fact that the money simply isn't there.
If anyone here knew Richard like I do, then you would also know how gutted he is by the whole situation. This is a bloke who has worked tirelessly trying to produce the best quality comics possible, and has taken a lot of crap along the way from a lot of people who he has tryed to help out by getting their books published. This whole thread seems to have turned into a 'lets all bash Rich' thing which seems like a waste of time as hes a genuinely top bloke and despite rumours to the contrary, he sure as hell isn't a con man. But as always he'll rise above above it and strive to produce better comics and not get embroiled in a petty slagging match on an internet forum. If you genuinely have a problem with him then email him, if he doesn't get back to you straight away its probably because he has better things to do, like produce some of the best comics out there.

All the best with Markosia!
 
Old 08-25-2005, 07:26 AM   #23
netzart
 
Quote:
If you genuinely have a problem with him then email him, if he doesn't get back to you straight away its probably because he has better things to do, like produce some of the best comics out there.


This is an impressive distortion of ethics. It's more important to blow one's horn about producing the best comics out there than to address a just grievance your workers have in regards to payment?

I have nothing but respect for Rich's ability to produce good comics. His ethical priorities, however, are lying in the gutters right now.

This type of support only speaks ill for Emms and his co-horts. Is there no one out there with a more substantial defense of the man?

Last edited by netzart : 08-25-2005 at 07:34 AM.
 
Old 08-25-2005, 07:39 AM   #24
fatfattyfatfat
 
Quote:
Originally posted by netzart
This is an impressive distortion of ethics. It's more important to blow one's horn about producing the best comics out there than to address a just grievance your workers have in regards to payment?

I have nothing but respect for Rich's ability to produce good comics. His ethical priorities, however, are lying in the gutters right now.

This type of support only speaks ill for Emms and his co-horts. Is there no one out there with a more substantial defense for the man?


Well considering the book isn't seeing print. I don't think you constitute being a worker and it has also been mentioned countless times - you were not offered the work directly by him.

And besides what I wrote was actually more directed for him, its called support for a friend.
 
Old 08-25-2005, 07:44 AM   #25
geegeecarl
 
Quote:
Originally posted by fatfattyfatfat
I have known Richard personally for probably over 10 years now and have also worked for APC (For which I got paid) To say he abuses the people who work with him is FALSE. I also have inked several pages for Mr T#3 for which I DO NOT EXPECT TO SEE PAYMENT FOR AS THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE USED. Its as simple as that and I have no problem with this due to the fact that the money simply isn't there.
If anyone here knew Richard like I do, then you would also know how gutted he is by the whole situation. This is a bloke who has worked tirelessly trying to produce the best quality comics possible, and has taken a lot of crap along the way from a lot of people who he has tryed to help out by getting their books published. This whole thread seems to have turned into a 'lets all bash Rich' thing which seems like a waste of time as hes a genuinely top bloke and despite rumours to the contrary, he sure as hell isn't a con man. But as always he'll rise above above it and strive to produce better comics and not get embroiled in a petty slagging match on an internet forum. If you genuinely have a problem with him then email him, if he doesn't get back to you straight away its probably because he has better things to do, like produce some of the best comics out there.

All the best with Markosia!


the people who have come out to defend Rich seem like good people (Jason, Nick, Harry) but cmon, most are personal friends or have barely dealt with the man!have some common sense.

you worked on Mr T 3? whys that exactly? had that been approved by the people Rich had to deal with. as I understand it the comic has been taken away from Emms long ago, so why would he get you to work on it and then not even pay?? this is all making Emms look worse not better!! its not a personality contest here its about a businessman's business ethics so itd be nice to see some reason come in here at least.

top comics were produced fine, but controversy and annoyed people seem to follow in Emms' wake!

peace,
Carl.
 
 
   

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