SHIPPING CHANGES AS OF 03.14.05

[MattBrady]

According to Diamond, the following titles have had shipping date changes. The first date listed is the original ship date (which itself may have moved from its initial ship date), the second, the new in-store date.

DC COMICS

Batman: Tales of the Demon TP -- NEW ED. 03/02/05 - 03/23/05
Green Lantern: Rebirth #6 03/23/05 - 05/04/05

MARVEL COMICS

New Avengers #4 Reg./Cheung Var. 03/09/05 - 03/23/05
Astonishing X-Men #9 03/23/05 - 03/30/05
Spider-Girl Vol. 3: Avenging Allies Digest TP 03/23/05 - 03/30/05
Captain America #5 03/30/05 - 04/27/05
Ultimate Fantastic Four #17 03/30/05 - 04/06/05
New Avengers #5 Reg./Granov Var. 03/30/05 - 04/13/05
Runaways #3 04/06/05 - 04/20/05
Captain America #6 04/20/05 - 05/25/05

[Chris]

*watches as the Green Lantern mini gets closer and closer to issue one of the ongoing*




Chris

[bob_at_york]

Damn you Marvel! I want my books! Stop making me wait!

[adamcasey]

This is really wild on Marvel's part. We could rationalize the push back for Runaways #2 to build some steam off of the first issue and the second printing.

But Captain America? Pushed back a month? And Marvel.com shows issue #6 was supposed to ship April 20th.

[bluedevil2002]

Why didn't they just go ahead and delay #7? Because right now, it looks like that's gonna come out two weeks before #6.

Again, it's the same offenders being late. You'd think they'd learn by now.

[Kevin T. Brown]

Originally posted by MattBrady
According to Diamond, the following titles have had shipping date changes. The first date listed is the original ship date (which itself may have moved from its initial ship date), the second, the new in-store date.

DC COMICS

Batman: Tales of the Demon TP -- NEW ED. 03/02/05 - 03/23/05
Green Lantern: Rebirth #6 03/23/05 - 05/04/05

MARVEL COMICS

New Avengers #4 Reg./Cheung Var. 03/09/05 - 03/23/05
Astonishing X-Men #9 03/23/05 - 03/30/05
Spider-Girl Vol. 3: Avenging Allies Digest TP 03/23/05 - 03/30/05
Captain America #5 03/30/05 - 04/27/05
Ultimate Fantastic Four #17 03/30/05 - 04/06/05
New Avengers #5 Reg./Granov Var. 03/30/05 - 04/13/05
Runaways #3 04/06/05 - 04/20/05
Captain America #6 04/20/05 - 05/25/05

DAMMIT! Yet another delay for GL??? Sheesh....

[Alfonso]

Originally posted by MattBrady
New Avengers #4 Reg./Cheung Var. 03/09/05 - 03/23/05

New Avengers #5 Reg./Granov Var. 03/30/05 - 04/13/05

HA! Right again. I totally said last week, in usual sarcasm mode, that "I'm sure issue #5 will hit that projected ship date with #4 pushed back." The result? #5 pushed back again, ALONG with #4.

Come on Marvel, let me help you spell it out: P-R-O-F-E-S-S-I-O-N-A-L-I-S-M!

[KACH]

Another reason why more & more people are waiting for the TPBs . . .

--J.

[Prodigy]

Geez, Rebirth delayed again? Oh well, I guess I can wait.

I'm not too worried about the Runaways delay. They probably want to have a bit more of a break between the 2nd and 3rd issues.

[marvscap2killer]

Originally posted by Alfonso
HA! Right again. I totally said last week, in usual sarcasm mode, that "I'm sure issue #5 will hit that projected ship date with #4 pushed back." The result? #5 pushed back again, ALONG with #4.

Come on Marvel, let me help you spell it out: P-R-O-F-E-S-S-I-O-N-A-L-I-S-M!

Psst. Notice your precious DC is shipping GL Rebirth a good month and change late? Gotta get the eyes checked.

[Ironhorse]

Originally posted by Alfonso
HA! Right again. I totally said last week, in usual sarcasm mode, that "I'm sure issue #5 will hit that projected ship date with #4 pushed back." The result? #5 pushed back again, ALONG with #4.

Come on Marvel, let me help you spell it out: P-R-O-F-E-S-S-I-O-N-A-L-I-S-M!

What do you think about GL: Rebirth? Where is the PROFESSIONALISM in DC?, I really want to hear you.

[bob_at_york]

Originally posted by Prodigy
Geez, Rebirth delayed again? Oh well, I guess I can wait.

I'm not too worried about the Runaways delay. They probably want to have a bit more of a break between the 2nd and 3rd issues.

I was thinking about it... why is Runaways delayed? It shouldn't be delayed they had months to get ahead! This isn't like NA where the creative team worked on another book before hand.

[pfunk70]

Well, not to pooh pooh on your righteous indignation and all but so far, Marvel posts what, 8 titles late and DC, two, which seems to be the case most weeks as Marvel consistently seems to have more late titles than DC. What I think it comes down to though is that Marvel is more of the artist's company while DC tends to the writer's side more often than not. Image had the same problem in the 90s with timely books, thinking the art will keep the fans coming back. In the long run though, fans do tend to get fed up waiting, whether it's from DC, Marvel or whomever. One book being late can be forgiven, but eight on a regular weekly basis get's to be a bit much, don't you think?

[pfunk70]

And to those saying that Marvel publishes that much more books, well, taking in Vertigo, CMX and such, DC probably comes close. I don't know the numbers but I wouldn't think it's far off. Just depends really on what the publisher considers important, timely stories or keeping the creative teams on the book. DC has always been more prone to run a fill-in artist if necessary where Marvel, as of late (and I think partially due to the fact that their leader is Joe Q, an artist and notoriously late) is more prone to have late books.

[Raphe Cheli]

DC publishes many more comics per month compared to Marvel (when you take Vertigo, Cartoon Network, ABC, etc., into consideration).

[ParisCub]

Originally posted by Alfonso
HA! Right again. I totally said last week, in usual sarcasm mode, that "I'm sure issue #5 will hit that projected ship date with #4 pushed back." The result? #5 pushed back again, ALONG with #4.

Come on Marvel, let me help you spell it out: P-R-O-F-E-S-S-I-O-N-A-L-I-S-M!

Actually, it's the professionalist way of doing things. Instead of having two issues a week apart (like it would have been the case), which we all know is very bad for sales because one issue doesn't have time to sell before the other gets on the stand, they give a bit of time for the issue to sell.

On the other hand, there's no real excuse for Rebirth, a mini-series which has been in the works to set up a big event, to be late. With a mini-series that important, and an artist who's famous for not being able to maintain deadlines (that's what got him fired from X-men, remember?), you'd think DC whould have shown a bit of professionlism and given more time for Ethan to finish the project... I don't see you screaming about that...

Oh, I forgot, you're biased...
Or are you infact a closet Marvel zombie who never reads DC comics, and thus has no reson to complain?

That was sarcastic, btw.

[Split Persona]

Man this totally sucks!! I am so loving New Avengers and every week it's being pushed back another week!! What the hell is wrong with Marvels employees!! I am a certified Marvel Maniac but dammit this shit is really wearing thin on me!!

And I am not letting DC off the hook either WTF is up with Rebirth!!

[Raphe Cheli]

I'm really surprised that GL:RB is late, not because of the timliness of the creators involved (I have no idea whether or not Van Sciver is slow or fast), but because DC tends to schedule "event series" far enough in advance to make sure things like this don't happen. I don't remember Identity Crisis being late (but I very well could be wrong).

And it looks like Marvel's doing the same thing with House of M -- I would think that they'd have 3 issues in the can before the first one ever hits the stands -- and they did that with Ultimates (which I don't think has been late yet).

[bob_at_york]

Originally posted by ParisCub
On the other hand, there's no real excuse for Rebirth, a mini-series which has been in the works to set up a big event, to be late. With a mini-series that important, and an artist who's famous for not being able to maintain deadlines (that's what got him fired from X-men, remember?), you'd think DC whould have shown a bit of professionlism and given more time for Ethan to finish the project... I don't see you screaming about that...

See that is the exact same point I was making about Runaways. They had months to get tons of issues in the "can" but somehow they are already running late. Both GL and Runaways should not be late... the rest I can somewhat understand.

[Christian Otte]

Originally posted by Alfonso
HA! Right again. I totally said last week, in usual sarcasm mode, that "I'm sure issue #5 will hit that projected ship date with #4 pushed back." The result? #5 pushed back again, ALONG with #4.

Come on Marvel, let me help you spell it out: P-R-O-F-E-S-S-I-O-N-A-L-I-S-M!

One thing I was wondering, though, is why DC decided to solicit Green Lantern: Rebirth, a mini that wasn't even finished yet? I mean, since you apparently know how this business works.

[pfunk70]

Ethan's art is detailed enough for me to forgive him this slight. And Geoff John's workload is hefty to say the least. It's a good series so I can wait for this one.

I think though that fans will are either going to have to get used to late books because of the creative teams involved or accept fill-in artists and stories like what's been done in the past.

GL:Rebirth because of it's finiteness doesn't allow for fill-in anything. Should they have had the whole series in the can before press time. Maybe. Could they have? Don't know, not sure what Geoff's and Ethan's schedules are like nor do I know what kind of effort it takes to produce the series that they've been producing. I will however forgive this slight as, so far, it's been pretty good, just as long as it doesn't turn into Ministry of Space.

[Zadillo's Ghost]

Ethan Van Sciver had explained over on the GeoffJohns forums that he had suffered a number of delays due to the hurricanes, etc. So it's still having some impact.

-Zadillo's Ghost

[Zadillo's Ghost]

Originally posted by pfunk70
Ethan's art is detailed enough for me to forgive him this slight. And Geoff John's workload is hefty to say the least. It's a good series so I can wait for this one.

I think though that fans will are either going to have to get used to late books because of the creative teams involved or accept fill-in artists and stories like what's been done in the past.

GL:Rebirth because of it's finiteness doesn't allow for fill-in anything. Should they have had the whole series in the can before press time. Maybe. Could they have? Don't know, not sure what Geoff's and Ethan's schedules are like nor do I know what kind of effort it takes to produce the series that they've been producing. I will however forgive this slight as, so far, it's been pretty good, just as long as it doesn't turn into Ministry of Space.

As I understand it, part of the plan for the GL ongoing is for Pacheco to do about 8 issues a year with Van Sciver filling in on 4 others, so it should be OK.

-Zadillo's Ghost

[Somebody]

Originally posted by bob_at_york
See that is the exact same point I was making about Runaways. They had months to get tons of issues in the "can" but somehow they are already running late. Both GL and Runaways should not be late... the rest I can somewhat understand.

Apparently, Runaways #2 was pushed back to allow for the second printing of #1. Runaways #3's been delayed because of the colourist.

[Alfonso]

Originally posted by Zadillo's Ghost
Ethan Van Sciver had explained over on the GeoffJohns forums that he had suffered a number of delays due to the hurricanes, etc. So it's still having some impact.

-Zadillo's Ghost

Thank you.

So, Marvel Zombies, tell us about all the hurricanes that are holding back David Finch. And Steve Epting. And Adi Granov. And Joe Quesada. And . . . oh right right, DC is exactly as guilty as Marvel, right? Right? Because they have so many more books on the list this week compared to Marvel.

I love it how they try to justify unprofessionalism.