by Chris Arrant
It's 2004, and the United States is at a crossroads. The current Republican President is entrenched in a 'war on terrorism', while being challenged on all sides regarding his choices in office. The Texan son of a President deflects any criticism under a carefree demeanor and an un-relenting, un-changing plan of action. Rumours and allegations of impropriety in voting results have been rampant since his win in 2000, and as the 2004 election nears, more and more speculation and reports come out. The voters have a choice in November, not necessarily for what's right, but for what's the least wrong.
Sound familiar? Although some of the names may be different, this world
could be ours. Writers (and brothers) Steve & Dan Goldman have teamed up with artist Joe Bucco to take us to an all-to-familiar world in which a President oversteps his bounds and it's up to the actions of two would-be political activists to make a difference. Under the name OneLove, these two Americans set out to form a bi-partisan effort combat the behind-the-scenes politicking going on in a corrupt administration. Newsarama had a chance to speak with the Brothers Goldman about
Everyman: Be the People, and find out what it takes to make a difference.
Newsarama: The primary driving force behind OneLove, the political movement in
Everyman, is author Thomas Womack. Can you bring us up to speed on who Thomas 'Mack' Womack is, and what led up to his introduction in the book?
Steve & Dan Goldman: Mack is the best-selling author of a series of thrillers that made him a pile of cash, enough that he could buy his Harlem apartment and go on walkabout across the world, writing new Thirsty Simmons - sort of black power superspy, Malcolm X-as-James Bond - novels along the way. While crisscrossing the globe for years, the usefulness of Thirsty as a mouthpiece for his ideas starts to wear thin, and upon his return from abroad, he meets ex-convict Spence Delfino sitting next to him at the counter of a Harlem diner. After few hours in a bar with Spence, another voice speaks up in Mack’s head, a convict named Dexter Chisholm… which spirals into his award-winning new novel
The Reality of My Surroundings about an ex-convict’s reintegration into a society that ostracizes him.
Reality makes the world take Mack seriously as a writer and a thinker for the first time.

As
Be The People opens, Mack’s new novel is up for the National Book Award, is soon to be a movie and all eyes are on him. At this point, Mack feels like he’s done his part, given back to society something to help him. It’s only when he meets Dita that he realizes that putting ideas on a page isn’t enough.
NRAMA: Another central character in
Everyman is Perdita 'Dita' Orozco, who meets Womack at one of his book signings. It seems that she acts as the catalyst and sounding board for Womack and his ideas. Could you explain to us more what her motivations are, and how her relationship with Womack works?
SG & DG: Dita is definitely the sounding board for Mack’s unrealized ideas, but you’ve got to remember… she is bringing her own perspective, scientific knowledge and an already-active political imagination to the table herself. Dita’s role in OneLove favors the brain versus Mack’s soul; together they are able to strike the balance that makes OneLove’s ideas attractive to the American people.
Dita’s parents are theoretical physicists, so the idea of everything being connected and causality being implicit is something that she’s grown up around. But as we discuss in the book, her parents live in theory, whereas she’s spent her life trying to apply things that she’s learned practically, to bring them into the world that we can observe. From Dita’s perspective, if you want what we know to be true in science to be reflected in public policy, you have to have the right ears… or just millions of them at the same time.
Her relationship with Mack we get to see from its beginning… it’s like all true love, fast and intense and quickly out of either’s control. What they don’t count on is the intellectual union taking on an active political slant with a life of its own. Mack and Dita give birth to OneLove, and by the end of
Be The People, their relationship is one for which there is no historical precedent.
NRAMA: Early on, we are also introduced to Presidential Aide Manolo 'Prez' Perez, who served under the previous Democratic President as well as Birch, the current Republican President. Political observers have always noted that most of the senior staff at the White House changes with each new President, especially if it's from a different party. Why did Birch keep Manolo, and more importantly, why did Manolo decide to stay?
SG & DG: Prez was kept on for the most obvious and insidious reasons… people who “serve at the pleasure of the President” do exactly that… they stay until dismissed, and that position is one of honor. As for Prez, he works at the White House, which was always a dream of his… he’d just rather be on the other side of the desk. That is, until President Birch begins twisting the shape of America until Prez doesn’t recognize it anymore… what better reason to stay and try to do something about it, hiding in plain sight?
NRAMA: As the ball begins rolling on the OneLove campaign, they start a grassroots media effort to bring their message across. It seems that the political arena has been slow to accept new technology, with former Democratic Presidential hopeful Howard Dean's campaign being the only standout. Why did OneLove decide to go this route?
DG: We patterned much of OneLove’s ideas on the “viral politicking” that Joe Trippi and the Dean campaign pioneered, as well as the techniques of organizations like
MoveOn.org and
indymedia.org who endeavor to widen the information-bottleneck of “approved” media in this country. We’ve also a lot of respect for the true revolutionaries of our parents’ generation, like the Weather Underground; their use of propaganda at home to generate anger at the abuse of American citizens’ right to information was simple and brilliant. There’s nothing like that going on in these times, when we need it most… which is why we decided to throw our revolution in comics form, and design the cover as propaganda instead of pin-up.
We’ve always viewed
Everyman as a series of pamphlets wrapped in fiction, offering not just ideas, but a sense of hope underneath the cold issues and the anger.
NRAMA: One of the major points in
Be The People is the current President's plan to manipulate the voting on his re-election by rigging the electronic voting machines. For anyone that has closely followed the news lately, there have been numerous reports on this possibility due to the security (or lack thereof) on the current e-voting machines. Can you tell us about the inherent plusses and minuses of the e-voting system, and how it impacts
Everyman?
SG & DG: The best place to start is
BlackBoxVoting.org; from here you can learn all about the flaws in Diebold and other manufacturers’ e-voting systems. Another great resource is Greg Palast’s book
The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, an analysis of Bush’s perplexing “victory” in the 2000 election. But more than the web activists and journalists admonishing us to look carefully at our system before it steals our votes, you can read for yourself actual state election boards assessments of these machines, all of whom found them to be easily manipulated and fault-ridden. Email us directly at
everyman@onelove.us if you’d like the links.
The manipulation of e-voting machines - in
Everyman, if you will - is just one of several possibilities lurking under our noses in the current political climate, and unfortunately - for the damage it does to the concept of democracy - is one of the things that would allow people like OneLove to gain the ears and hearts of our nation. A huge amount of people today are scared and confused into paralysis by the knowledge that they are being lied to by their leaders, but don’t feel there’s anything they can do…
OneLove has a few ideas for you.
NRAMA: Although some of the names have been changed, readers of
Everyman can see some similiarities between the fictitious president of
Everyman, Henry R. Birch, and the current U.S. President, George W. Bush. What led you to basing this story in a world so close to home, and how do you think it will impact readers?
SG & DG: Honestly, I think the over-fictionalization of politics - a la what we see in mainstream comics - completely dilutes the impact of questioning what we see around us. Denny O’Neil’s
Green Arrow and
Green Lantern was lauded for making comics socially relevant, but that - and anything that’s been influenced by it - still skirted around directly addressing national politics.
Because this is fiction, we can keep this close to reality and still do more than criticize…we can offer solutions and make the world better by example, which is the point of OneLove.
NRAMA: Since most of the story is based in the real world, why did you decide not to use George W. Bush's real name?
SG: I think the idea of getting sued for libel might've played a big part in it.
DG: That, and after reading up on the Patriot Act, it's blindingly obvious how easy it is to be labeled a "enemy combatant", which is a word made of Silly Putty that can be stretched across anything threatening to whoever chooses to use it. We wanted
Everyman to remain indisputably a work of fiction, intentionally thinly-veiled though it is. I don't want to be taken away in the night and locked up with the rest of the "enemies" someplace where I can't make comics and there are no pretty girls.
SG: Also, it's close enough to reality without sledge hammering the crowd with who we're talking about. We kept appearances and behaviors of the characters pretty close to their real-life counterparts, and used the fact that this is fiction to make a few points and express a few opinions about them. Call it dramatic license.
DG: I find it troubling to even entertain the though consider that the ideas and spirit of
Everyman could be called "unamerican" by anyone. I imagine getting a unanimous thumbs-ups from our Founding Fathers for
Be The People, heh.
NRAMA: Let's say some of the events you've forecasted in
Everyman come true, and the massive mainstream media juggernaut points its light in your direction. Besides "I Told You So", what would you say?
SG & DG: A voting machine scandal coming true means it’s time for America to pay closer attention to the actions of its leaders and their supporters, and just maybe, find new leaders in the country’s midst, from other walks of life than Washington. Different experiences mean different perspectives, and that means a government that can evolve ideas.
NRAMA: Everyman is an attractive, manga-sized digest format. What led you to the decision to publish it in this format, rather than the standard American comic-sized format?
SG & DG: It’s a graphic novel with a spine and a UPC code, and we felt that given the subject matter, the more portable, affordable and accessible we could make this, the more likely it is that people who would never set foot in a comic shop would pick it up. And quite frankly, that means more eyes and ears pointing towards OneLove.
NRAMA: The topics brought up in
Everyman are very time-sensitive, and the release date of October 2004 is perfectly planned to take advantage of the upcoming election in November. What led you to deciding on this publishing schedule?
SG & DG: The November 2nd Presidential election, what else?
Be The People was conceived last December specifically to come out for the election, but in its writing has gained more staying power. We were incredulous last winter that no one was putting out any work openly criticizing this administration (except for Michael Moore and a handful of others), and we felt we needed to speak out about the clear and present danger to democracy that we see in the voting machines. Seeing that we are both comic creators, throwing our "tea party" in comic form seemed both perfect timing and totally punk rock.
NRAMA: How did you get in touch with Joe Bucco, and why did you choose him to illustrate
Everyman?
DG: Joe answered an ad we put out on Craiglist; we'd checked out a lot of people before finding his art and his enthusiasm. Because of the density of the work, Steve and I knew we'd need to be more hands-on with our artist than usual, since we were all pushing ourselves to the limit to bring this baby into the world. Joe is incredibly easy to work with, works at least as hard as we do, and taught us all a thing or two about storytelling. That, and the closeness of his studio to our workspace, really made things easier to put our heads together. And look at the final work... it's gorgeous.
NRAMA: On the spine and in the indicia of
Everyman, we can plainly see that this is just the first volume. Can you tell us about upcoming volumes, and when they would be available?
SG & DG: The second volume of
Everyman is due out sometime in 2005. Volume 2 will begin shortly after
Be The People's conclusion, and will very quickly step into a much larger scope for the series.
NRAMA: What are your intentions for producing such a politically-minded piece of fiction?
SG & DG: We always intended to write a book that would get people thinking a lot harder about this election, about the technology being used to gather the votes, about the candidates involved and where their true motivations lie, and about whether just voting in an election and paying taxes is enough to consider oneself participating in our society.
DG: And taking a step back from that, looking at the priorities our government sets for our nation, and what its constituents are willing to define as "quality of life", and what they'd really want, given their say. The election keeps us grounded in the right now, but we shall soon spiral out into the "what if", and America will be better for it. All knobs are turned up to 11 in the next volume.
NRAMA: What kind of research did you do for the story of
Everyman?
SG & DG: What didn’t we read? Everything from 8-10 news sites per day from across the world to policy analyses from both liberal and conservative think tanks - to get multiple perspectives. We consulted with an Air Force intelligence officer to gauge the plausibility of what we wrote and to get a more first-hand view of the world from someone who served all over the world, including both Iraq and Afghanistan. We read multiple biographies on our president so we wouldn’t take the easy road and demonize him.
We wanted to make this as smart as possible, while keeping it as readable as possible.
NRAMA: The genre of political fiction seems relatively sparse in comics, with
Maus being the most notable. Why do you think
Everyman works so well in the comics format?
SG & DG: Comics is a medium in which you can tell
any kind of story; it’s just that in America that the medium comes front-loaded with preconceived notions of the kind of stories that are “comic-booky” in nature.
Everyman works well in comic form because we’re not beholden to anyone else: we can say what we think and feel, and not have the studio recut the final product because we’ve upset their advertisers and shareholders.
NRAMA: On a related note, why do you think there is such a lack of comics of political nature available?
SG & DG: Partially, because of the time-sensitive nature of political comics, and partially because people are afraid to stake out a position for fear of alienating their audience. And in that, we beg to differ, because we think there is an audience for this kind of work, one who would applaud what we’re doing.
NRAMA: In addition to writing
Everyman, the Brothers Goldman are also the publishing force known as FWDbooks. Can you tell us why you decided to self-publish?
SG & G: We wanted to make sure that no one was going to censor what we had to say - the way HarperCollins tried to do with Michael Moore’s
Stupid White Men and St. Martin’s Press did with James Hatfield’s biography of George W. Bush, and we wanted the book out on time, which would’ve required the rush-solicitation that other publishers weren’t prepared to offer us.
NRAMA:. The motto for FWDBooks is 'manga con corazan'. Can you tell us why you chose this phrase, and what it means to you?
SG & DG: Funnily enough, we met Sergio Aragones this summer at the San Diego Comic-Con, and he let us know that manga - Japanese for “comics” - means “sleeve” in Spanish, making our work literally translated “sleeve with heart,” comics that wear their heart on their sleeve, which is a great description of anything FWDbooks does. The whole idea behind FWDbooks is make comics that don’t leave anything out, that engage you with ideas, have human characters that live and breathe, wow with talent art and storytelling, and sweep you off your feet the way comics did when you first read them. We still remember how that felt, and we want to keep that feeling going forever.
NRAMA: Last question... You're riding up an elevator with someone you've never met before. You've got 3 minutes to try to tell them why they should buy your book. What do you say?
SG & DG: Most books about politics are criticisms, and not constructive ones at that. Where
Everyman differs is that it points the way to an America that’s just not so far out of reach.
Everyman is a comic. It’s also a love letter… from Americans to America.
We shouldn’t have to close our eyes to see the American Dream.
EVERYMAN: Be The People is a 96-page B&W graphic novel with a color cover by Joe Bucco and Dan Goldman, written by Steven & Dan Goldman, art by Joe Bucco. Everyman: Be The People is published by FWDbooks, carries a retail price of $6.00 and is currently being solicited in Diamond’s August Previews catalog (order code AUG04 2774) for an October 13th street date. Everyman will be available online via Amazon on the street date, as well as available directly from FWDbooks at OneLove.us.
Ed. Note - the first paragraph of this article previously erroneously referred to the fictional President in the story as the first son of a President to hold the same office as the father, and has been changed.