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Old 07-14-2004, 12:35 PM   #1
MattBrady
 
AT PLAY IN THE DCU: KURT BUSIEK TALKS JLA

JLA #108Dreamt of by fans as the heir apparent to the writer’s chair of JLA for years thanks to his stint on Marvel’s Avengers, DC’s solicitations for October made dreams come true – Kurt Busiek would be writing an eight part arc on the book, featuring the return of the Crime Syndicate of Amerika.

But would that be all? Patience, grasshopper.

First off, as solicits revealed, Busiek’s storyline would be spun from threads from JLA/Avengers, specifically, the Space Egg that showed up at the end of the miniseries. Was this some devious plan all long, planned by Busiek to guarantee him work at a later date?

Or, more simply, what came first, the gig or the space egg?

“The offer to write the book came first,” Busiek told Newsarama. “The plan to springboard off of some of the developments in JLA/Avengers was a natural, but it came after I started working stuff out. In fact, there are two big developments happening at once -- the whole question of Krona and the Cosmic Egg, and the CSA [Crime Syndicate of Amerika] storyline. The Krona part was something I came up with early on, but the CSA epic was pitched later, as a separate mini-series, and it got folded back into the main book along the way.”

While Busiek readily cops to leaving elements behind in JLA/Avengers that could be readily exploited, he had no idea that he’d be the one to do the follow-up, and be doing it so relatively shortly after the original story ended. “I like it when things can unfold -- when you can see what happens next, as a result of whatever major events the characters have been through,” Busiek said. “So I wrote it with the idea that there could be follow-ups, but no idea whether I'd be doing those follow-ups or not. Had I been doing a regular Marvel book, there are things that could be done on that side, too, but I guess that'll be up to them at this point.”

Inter-company crossovers, fairly rare creatures now, used to be much more plentiful, but nearly without exception, they occurred “somewhere else,” in a dimension where both the Teen Titans and X-Men operate, for example, following up on plot threads from JLA/Avengers in JLA is a rarity – an event in itself in that it continues in one of DC’s flagship titles.

Given that the ongoing JLA series won’t be changing it’s name to JLA/Avengers, some careful storytelling will be necessary for Busiek. “You won't be seeing any flashback panel with the Avengers in 'em, that's for sure,” the writer began. “Beyond that, you'll get to see how it works in October. Or, well, September, actually, since Ron and I have a CSA story in the JLA Secret Files that serves as a prologue to this story, and to a number of other things.”

Setting up the story a little – if you’re one of the seven regular readers of JLA who passed on JLA/Avengers, Busiek offered a quick rundown of how things ended up the way they are at the beginning of “Crime Syndicate of Amerika”:

“A short JLA/Avengers finale synopsis: Krona wound up with enormous power over both the Marvel and DC universes, and tried to collapse them both, which would have resulted in a new Big Bang and Krona's chance to witness the mysteries of universal birth. He's got an itch to know how that happens. The heroes managed to stop his machinations, though, and in the end, Krona ended up trapped in a collapsing whirlpool of n-space and energy, resulting in a Cosmic Egg, one which will eventually hatch into a new universe. It's infused with the essence of Krona, making him a part of the process. So he'll get to know his answers from inside. Trouble is, nobody knows when the Egg will hatch, or what sort of universe will be born from it.”

Since the climax of the miniseries, the Egg has been under the microscope, and what it’s revealing is…troubling to say the least. “All of reality may be ... different from what it used to be,” Busiek said. “Beyond that, you'll have to wait and see.”

Although, Busiek did hint that there is a connection between the Egg and the invasion of the Crime Syndicate from another earth.

Which earth?

“These are the CSA from the Earth 2 graphic album [by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely], and from the opening on JLA/Avengers. Grant Morrison very generously sent me lots of notes and background on his vision for the characters, their backgrounds, the world -- and we'll be seeing a whole lot of what he had in mind, but there's a lot more, too.”

Said Syndicate, for those new-ish to the JLA, first appeared in Justice League of America #29 in 1964 (written by Gardner Fox), and were originally portrayed as simply the opposites of the heroes of the JLA. They (and the “hero” of their earth Alexander Luthor) would appear now and again pre-Crisis, and eventually bought it in Crisis on Infinite Earths when their earth (Earth-3) was destroyed.

The CSA’s post-Crisis glory moment came with the aforementioned Earth-2 graphic novel in 2000. As Morrison described it, he built on the foundation Fox had laid, creating a believable world where Benedict Arnold was the first US President, George Washington was a traitor, and England fought to resist American colonization.

As Morrison explained it, crime was the founding principle of the CSA’s society – a society upon whose neck the CSA had its boot.

As for why the CSA – made up of Ultraman, Owlman, Superwoman, Johnny Quick and Power Ring target the DCU’s earth, well… “Let me put it this way,” Busiek said. “Those opening scenes of JLA/Avengers - in which the CSA's entire universe was destroyed - are pretty important.”

And – it’s not just going to be a story where the “good Superman” fights the “bad Superman” and so on down the line. “We have a much bigger story in mind -- ways to explore the CSA beyond characters with similar powers hitting each other in the face -- and we'll see some unsettling role reversals as we go,” Busiek said. “Plus, the CSA aren't the only problem. They might not even be the major problem.

“There are dangerous things unleashed, and they're all headed our way...”

As announced in DC’s solicitations for October, the “Crime Syndicate of Amerika” storyline (with art by Ron Garney and Dan Green) runs eight issues, but that’s not quite it for Busiek and Garney.

“The different-creators/different-arcs era for JLA is ending -- sort of -- and Ron and I will be the new ongoing team,” Busiek announced. “After the CSA arc, there's one more, by the Dan-namic Duo of Dan Slott and Dan Jurgens, and then Ron and I are back for the foreseeable future. The CSA arc is only the beginning -- and there'll be plenty of stuff established there that'll be trouble for the JLA - and others - for some time to come.”

According to JLA editor Mike Carlin, the rotating arc worked for its allotted time. “The changing creative teams was never meant to be a forever deal in the regular JLA book... just a change of pitch for a year or so,” Carlin said. “By the time Kurt's run starts we will have had five arcs and a one shot from when Joe Kelly and Doug Mahnke stopped their run... hell, that's almost two years-- even with double-ships! And with the creation of an all new JLA title as a companion series, we haven't abandoned the idea at all - more on that title later.

“The pros of the rotating creative teams are mostly based on the fact that we're using almost all ‘borrowed’ characters,” Carlin continued. “There's very little room for real plot/character development... since most of the real players have their own titles where that happens - and rightly so – and, as I’ve said before, I think every writer or artist has one great JLA story in 'em! So why not let everyone have a shot? The cons to the approach? Only that not every team will be everyone's favorite. Otherwise-- especially as far as scheduling goes... there are no cons.”



So – back to Busiek. While current readers of Busiek’s work probably know of his Stan Lee-like knowledge of the Marvel universe in minute detail, the writer’s DC fandom is also a matter of the historical record. “I've been reading Marvel since 1974 -- and DC since 1976,” Busiek said. “So at this point, that's not all that much of a head start for Marvel. I probably know the Marvel Universe better, but I'm reasonably well-versed in the DCU, too, and I've got backup when I need help. So I wouldn't be worried on that score.”

Taking the reins as the regular writer of the JLA places Busiek in somewhat rarified air, among a small fraternity of creators who’ve handled both the Avengers for Marvel and the JLA for DC.

Busiek ran down some of the more familiar faces who’ve handled both universes premier teams: “Roy Thomas only wrote the JLA for an issue or two here and there. Gerry Conway’s a longtimer on JLA but a short-timer on Avengers, Steve Englehart was on Avengers for years and JLA for only about a year ... there's a number of guys who've done both, but I can't think of anyone who had long runs on both series.

“I plan to change that, though.”

As for the obligatory compare and contrast?

“As to the differences between the two teams, that's a question I answered a lot when I was in the Avengers chair, and it'll be fun to explore it from the other side,” Busiek said. “Short answer -- the Avengers are a tightly-knit team, they train together, live together, identify as the team. The League, on the other hand, is a league -- they're all primarily solo heroes who come together when necessary, working as a unit when needed. But when Superman goes up against a bad guy, his first thought isn't, ‘Call in the League.’ When Hawkeye or the Wasp does, though... it's a different approach, a different mindset.

”The JLA are like the Olympics - the best of the best, all come together in fellowship. The Avengers are like the team that wins the World Series - they're a unit, a squad. A team, to the JLA's alliance.

”I hear that's changing for the Avengers, and I'm sure it'll be huge, at least for a while, considering the talent involved. But I've always thought that the best thing to do for each book is to figure out what it's best at and then do that, better than any other book can. Whenever a book tries to imitate whatever works best for some other book, whether it's the Avengers trying to be more like the X-Men in the ‘jackets’ era or the Detroit League trying to recapture the success of the Titans, I think you're losing your way. But maybe they'll find a different road -- and if we wind up with two teams built around the JLA concept, I think the original has the edge.”

Coming on under the rotating arc umbrella, Busiek and Garney are inheriting the JLA that’s fairly basic (and un-accidentally reminiscent of the Justice League animated series): Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern (Jon Stewart), and the Martian Manhunter, with others added here and there as story demands dictated. As for once he’s going as regular writer…add a few more chairs to the table.

“I've made no secret of the fact that I want a larger League,” Busiek said. “I think that's the nature of a league -- you want a larger pool of heroes to draw from, even if they don't all turn up every mission. That way, you get an interesting mix, different combinations, and unexpected moments. I do think the core characters are pretty essential, but there's no reason to see only seven. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow, Hawkman, Atom ... I'm already up to ten, and have I really named anyone who shouldn't be a Leaguer?

”As for how we're going to bring it all about, well, we've got an eight-issue adventure to tell first, so let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. It's all coming...”

Asked if he’s found any particular character to be his voice more than others, Busiek gave a hint of the upcoming CSA story. “At this point, the JLA aren't even in my second issue, and only have a small-but-significant role in the third, so give me a little time. Right now, I've written more of the CSA than the JLA by a fair margin, but I am finding Wally West a natural for me, and I'm having fun with J'onn. Big plans afoot for John Stewart, and plans to take a different look at the others...”

Finally, while not fully ruling out a return of Starro, The Key, and other classic villains, Busiek said he’s not necessarily looking towards the past for challenges to the team. “Mostly, I'm planning around new threats -- though there'll be several classic DC villains along the way. And I'll leave it at that, for now.”
 
Old 07-14-2004, 12:44 PM   #2
Simon DelMonte
 
Wow. Wow. Busiek and Garney on JLA for good.

This following the Waid/Kitson LEgion announcement.

it's a new godlen age, I tell ya!

How in god's green earth am I going to pay for all this?
 
Old 07-14-2004, 12:49 PM   #3
cbrown93704
 
Thumbs up

I for one am so glad that the rotating artist/writer arc thing is ending on JLA, and to be replaced by the likes of Busiek and Garney is sweet icing on the cake. Now what will it take to get Busiek's talent on a Hal Jordan Green Lantern series?
 
Old 07-14-2004, 12:51 PM   #4
Clint Kent
 
I absolutely love the Crime Syndicate, glad they're coming back!!! Can't wait for Busiek and Garney to take the reigns!
 
Old 07-14-2004, 12:52 PM   #5
gwangung
 


[faints dead away]

THUNK!
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:00 PM   #6
onestar
 
One word: Cool.

This could be the combination that brings me back to reading JLA.

DC's got a lot to look forward to coming later this year. Sweet.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:01 PM   #7
UnstableMolecule
 
Busiek, yay! Garney, boo!

While Busiek isn't my top choice for writer of this book (it will always be Morrison for me), he's definitely a great person to be handling DC's premier team for the long haul.

Unfortunately, I've never understood the appeal of Ron Garney -- and he's getting sloppier and sloppier lately too. If DC is smart, they'll put a hot artist on this book fast. THIS is the book that the Jim Lees and Michael Turners of the industry should be working their magic on...

VERY glad the roating writers are ending, but... what about the arc by Gail Simone and Jose Luis Garcia Lopez? That was the only one I was really looking forward to. Hopefully it can still happen as a miniseries or something.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:09 PM   #8
Caine
 
Well, JLA will be on pull list again once Busiek takes over. He hasn't dissapointed me yet, though I haven't read all of his output.

JLA is one of DC's flagship titles and needs a writer of Busiek's stature on it monthly. Though I wouldn't want to see Turner anywhere near this one, Jim Lee covers wouldn't be too bad.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:21 PM   #9
holtom2000
 
Finally a ongoing JLA writer, and what a writer. Buseik's already wrote the JLA way back when. His Paragon story is a favorite of mine. I hope he brings him back!
Ah, if I can just make it through these last one-shots (and why do characters with their own books need spotlight in the main JLA title?)
Bring on Busiek!
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:22 PM   #10
Truthseeker
 
Excellent news! I am really excited to see a consistent voice on JLA. I am also a fan of Garney's past work so i am looking forward to this big time!
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:27 PM   #11
SHABBAZZ
 
I'm not a huge Busiek fan or a huge Garney fan, but the combination of those 2 creators, the Crime Syndicate and (down the road) a big, legit JLA roster without douchebags like Major Disaster, Faith and Apache Chief is a combination I can't resist. JLA/Crisis/Legends were the first books I collected as a kid and now starting in October JLA is back on the pull list. Thanks DC.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:29 PM   #12
Rockin' Rich
 
If you missed it when it first came out (or weren't yet born) try to pick up a copy of JLA #240 for Kurt's first JLA story with original JLA artist Mike Sekowsky...
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:29 PM   #13
LK_
 
finally DC is giving attention to JLA.

I was considering dropping this title due to its boredness even though im a JLA fan, i just cant stand it anymore. But now im back on board, thank you DC.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:30 PM   #14
cncoyle
 
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:35 PM   #15
brazilgilliam
 
On the one hand, I was going to continue my avoidance of the JLA title after they put Chuck Austen on the title but I've just been sold for the first arc at least of Busiek's run. I loved his Avengers and he is an all around good superteam writer.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:40 PM   #16
MMJ
 
Cool Abso-fraggin-lutely awesome!

I jumped from the JLA ship when the rotating creative team concept was announced - the whole idea was awful and from the reviews I've come across since then I don't have any reason to question that decision - longing for the day that a regular, ongoing creative team would be brought on board.

And now it has, all I can say is Wow!.

The DC team books are gonna kick some in 2005 aren't they?
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:42 PM   #17
cannon
 
Hurray!

Marvel and DC seem to be flip-flopping their roles. A year ago, nothing DC did was getting me excited, but Marvel was experimenting with all sorts of wacky stuff and bagging A-list creators to do their books.

Nowadays, all Marvel has is Bendis killing lots of my favorite characters, but DC has stuff like this.

Man, I've been hoping for Busiek to do JLA since the opening pages of JLA/Avengers, and now here we are. And from the article, it looks like I'll be able to enjoy the book again for the first time since the middle of Waid's run.

Thanks, Kurt!

Jim Cannon
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:42 PM   #18
Mickey Mouth
 
Maybe when George Perez is done with the Titans graphic novel he'll join Busiek on the book. One would think that DC has surely made the offer.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:44 PM   #19
Starpilot
 
That's the best JLA news I've heard in years. Busiek and Garney will make an excellent team. I'm ready to hop back on board after a short departure during the Chuck Austen arc.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:46 PM   #20
swol
 
This promises to be very good and very fun.

I'm amazed that somebody these days is not looking to retread old stories and villians to re-tell classic stories with a modern flair.

Let's face it.
Most of Marvel's Ultimate line is just that.
In fact a lot of both the MU and DCU are just that, maybe not as batent as the Ultimate line, but it's there.

Originality in writing...what a concept!
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:46 PM   #21
solid-one-love
 
I dropped JLA the issue where Plastic Man was reconstituted and quit (post-Obsidian Age) and wish that I'd dropped it earlier. Sadly, I predict that Busiek isn't going to keep Plas in the League.

But I'll be picking the book up again when Busiek takes over.

I agree with UnstableMolecule, tho: I don't like Garney's art. Too much like Val Semeiks, who I also don't like.

And in a world's first, I agree with Holtom, and hope that Busiek brings back Paragon.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:46 PM   #22
holtom2000
 
Busiek's first JLA story was not 240, but in fact in the 220's, my favorite Paragon tale. He also wrote the two-part JLA-JSA x-over versus the Commander (which also had a cameo by the Crime Syndicate, if my memory serves me right) which explained where the big guns were during the Earth-Mars war.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:47 PM   #23
tralfaz
 
he has mighty shoes to fill if he ever does a story with the Key. Morrison's version was friggin awesome.
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:51 PM   #24
algertman
 
yepo. that's some might fine news right there, the CSA rocks, and am glad they are bringing them back for another go around
 
Old 07-14-2004, 01:56 PM   #25
FIG
 
I can't wait to see this, I loved Quitelys graphic novel, it rocked.
 
 
   

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