The News Page is pissing me off.

[Aaron Calimeri]

OK, I know we have talked about this before, but this is getting ridiculous.

Read the responses to either/both of the Joe Quesada interviews.

What.

The.

Hell.

I wish I could find someone who likes ANYTHING about comics right now.

HELLO!!! IS THERE ANYONE WHO LIKES ANYTHING REGARDING THE COMICS INDUSTRY!!!!???


ARE THERE ANY FRICKIN CREATORS OR EDITORS THAT YOU ACTUALLY LIKE!!!????

WHY DO YOU READ COMICS AND THE NEWSARAMA NEWS IF YOU HATE EVERYTHING!!!???


God.

[drdash]

i totally agree. it seems all these fans do is complain. for example, now that hal jordan is coming back they are complaining about losing kyle rayner. it is just sickening. myself, i read the online preview of dd:father and i'm looking forward to it, i like joe's art and it looks like a more traditional dd story. as far as hal is concerned i am glad he is coming back. i was a big fan of his character when gerard jones wrote it. and i also like kyle so i hope they both stick around.

ciao
drdash

[Aaron Calimeri]

Originally posted by drdash
i totally agree. it seems all these fans do is complain. for example, now that hal jordan is coming back they are complaining about losing kyle rayner. it is just sickening. myself, i read the online preview of dd:father and i'm looking forward to it, i like joe's art and it looks like a more traditional dd story. as far as hal is concerned i am glad he is coming back. i was a big fan of his character when gerard jones wrote it. and i also like kyle so i hope they both stick around.

ciao
drdash

Man, you should post your thoughts on the news page. We need more people with positive attitudes.

Seems like everyone is all into conspiracies and corruption right now. Driving me nuts.

[temujinkahn]

I know what you mean. I just read the thread about Birds of Prey and some one was talking about this book being rushed and botched even thought he/she had not even read it yet.

and it the art looked great and Gail Simone is one of the best writers in the industry today (imo) so i doubt the book will be botched.

[MudshovelForYou]

"Hi. I'm Mud. I like a lot of things about comics right now."


I try and post there, but the positive voices just get lost in the shuffle of negativity. So help me, I will never forget the day when Marvel issues a eulogy to Julius Schwartz.. the first couple of response were nothing on attacks at Marvel for not doing anything to help Dave Cockrum. It was disgusting...

Then of course when they work out a deal for Cockrum (and not even getting into the specifics) there were barely any replies.

My only hope is that the creators/editors that visit here, at least notice the occasional positive remarks we contribute.

[YDLM]

I keep on hearing Joe Q dismissed the internet and when you look at stuff like that, it is easy to see why. Snipes everywhere you look. I read FATHER, and it was beautiful in everyway, I cant imagine someone not liking it, if they liked Joe Q prior work or the DAREDEVIL character. It shows that there are more comicbook politicians out ther making there voices heard then true comicbook fans that are too turn off by the negativity to make a peep.

[FIG]

I always post there and 90% of the time its positive but you really can't blame people for being negative simply because this is a forum. The best thing you can hope for if you see someone being overly negative is call them on it. Its up to them to change and be more positive or if they get out of line, theres always MattB to flush them down the toilet. I guess lots of people do need to lighten up though and try thinking about the ramifications of their typed words since creators visit here on a regular basis. I'd hate to be a comic artist and read negative reactions to an interview that MattB gave me and posted it here online. Imagine that you're working your ass off and putting your passion and sweat into a comic only to have some fans come in to your thread and simply say your work sucks. How messed up would that be?-I think we all need to realize that creators have feelings and think about their reaction before we type. Thats my opinion.

[MudshovelForYou]

Originally posted by FIG
I always post there and 90% of the time its positive but you really can't blame people for being negative simply because this is a forum. The best thing you can hope for if you see someone being overly negative is call them on it. Its up to them to change and be more positive or if they get out of line, theres always MattB to flush them down the toilet. I guess lots of people do need to lighten up though and try thinking the ramifications of their typed words since Creators visit here on a regular basis. Man, I'd hate to be all excited to make a comic, you know working your ass off and putting your passion and sweat into something only to have some fans come in and simply say your work sucks. How messed up would that be?-I think we all need to realize that creators have feelings and think about their reaction before we type. Thats my opinion.

I agree. I don't think that you need always be positive in the front, but you need to be mature and tactful about what you say. Blasting someone for something that has nothing to do with the topic (like the Austen questions in the Joe Q/DD thread, or the Schwartz eulogy example) is tactless.

Honestly, I don't understand why so many fans feel "the comic book industry owes them something".

[skywatcher]

Originally posted by MudshovelForYou
Honestly, I don't understand why so many fans feel "the comic book industry owes them something".

It might have something to do with the fact that these same fans are the people who keep the industry alive with their hard-earned money!
I rarely post on the News section, but I don't feel that it is necessary to be positive all the time or that we should be overly critical. Joe Q regards us all as "hecklers" anyway. I would hate these boards to be full of nothing but gushing praise, especially if it was in regards to a below-par comic. Equally, I don't want a board full of gratuitous negativity.
Lets talk about comics (pro and con) and have some fun while we're about it!

[temujinkahn]

I dont think anyone was saying that you need to be positive all the time. But there are a few on at the news page who do not know what positive means. When i first came to this site i never noticed the difference in the postings from talk@ and news@, but i have seen a more negative leaning on the news board than is the norm.

[MudshovelForYou]

Originally posted by skywatcher
It might have something to do with the fact that these same fans are the people who keep the industry alive with their hard-earned money!
I rarely post on the News section, but I don't feel that it is necessary to be positive all the time or that we should be overly critical. Joe Q regards us all as "hecklers" anyway. I would hate these boards to be full of nothing but gushing praise, especially if it was in regards to a below-par comic. Equally, I don't want a board full of gratuitous negativity.
Lets talk about comics (pro and con) and have some fun while we're about it!

I understand we keep the industry alive, but in all honesty, it is an industry. The people in charge don't owe us explanations or anything of that nature. We keep the book industry and hollywood alive too. But the average movie goer isn't ready to go nuts for every move that [Insert Movie Studio] makes...

But I totally agree about the having fun while talking pro and con about comics.

[toolverine]

I think we can name quite a few things we love about comics right now. However, most of us here won't post that on the news page. Too many trolls and whatnot.

[Christian Otte]

I think we should all just say cuss words and "shut the fuck up" to those idiots over at the News board - it helps, try it .

[Aaron Calimeri]

Originally posted by Christian Otte
I think we should all just say cuss words and "shut the fuck up" to those idiots over at the News board - it helps, try it .

Tralfaz already does that.

[Buttery Wonder]

Sadly, positive posts don't garner responses.

If I started 9 positive threads and 1 negative, which do you think would generate the greater number of replies? All of the positive ones put together wouldn't even come close to the 1 negative.

It's just human nature. Negativity brings out a level of passion in people that is easy to voice. I'm DEFINITELY not advocating it, just pointing out why it is the case.

I never post there because of it, too. I love all my talk@ bruthas and sistas for knowing how to keep things fun.

[Aaron Calimeri]

Originally posted by Buttery Wonder
Sadly, positive posts don't garner responses.

If I started 9 positive threads and 1 negative, which do you think would generate the greater number of replies? All of the positive ones put together wouldn't even come close to the 1 negative.

It's just human nature. Negativity brings out a level of passion in people that is easy to voice. I'm DEFINITELY not advocating it, just pointing out why it is the case.

I never post there because of it, too. I love all my talk@ bruthas and sistas for knowing how to keep things fun.

But that's the thing: The News threads are almost ALWAYS positive. And they get dozens of negative responses EVERY FREAKING TIME. That's what I don't get.

[Buttery Wonder]

Originally posted by Aaron Calimeri
But that's the thing: The News threads are almost ALWAYS positive. And they get dozens of negative responses EVERY FREAKING TIME. That's what I don't get.

Yeah, but the news is the main attraction at Newsarama, so of course those threads are gonna get a lot of responses. Start threads in talk@, however, and it seems like the ones that are negative string on forever and a day. There are positive ones that do as well, but it is the nature of the beast that the negative ones almost ALWAYS do.

Here, and on other forums as well.

I'd love to see more creative, positive discussion in the news forums. But since theere is so much negative air, I read the articles and head straight to talk@ when I'm done.

[MayorBigRig]

Everybody wants to be heard, and we tend to judge whether or not people recognize our opinions based on whether or not it becomes a hot topic of discussion. When somebody says something positive that we agree with, we don't tend to "waste" a post saying "Well put!" or any such. We tend instead to simply find the boneheads disagreeing with what we say and we get heated and try to argue with them.

[Aaron Calimeri]

Originally posted by MayorBigRig
Everybody wants to be heard, and we tend to judge whether or not people recognize our opinions based on whether or not it becomes a hot topic of discussion. When somebody says something positive that we agree with, we don't tend to "waste" a post saying "Well put!" or any such. We tend instead to simply find the boneheads disagreeing with what we say and we get heated and try to argue with them.

Good point, sir.

[Skyldt]

a couple weeks ago, when Bush was speaking about the war with Iraq or something, someone posted a thread to remind everyone that the TV show 24 was being pushed to sunday.
Tralfaz said he would rather see 24 than Bush talk. some guy busted in and got pissed at him for that, saying that Tralfaz is whats wrong with the country. Tralfaz got pissed off and started cussing him out. luckily, Matt jumped in and deleted a bunch of the posts.

[Buttery Wonder]

Originally posted by MayorBigRig
Everybody wants to be heard, and we tend to judge whether or not people recognize our opinions based on whether or not it becomes a hot topic of discussion. When somebody says something positive that we agree with, we don't tend to "waste" a post saying "Well put!" or any such. We tend instead to simply find the boneheads disagreeing with what we say and we get heated and try to argue with them.

Very true. As much as we all hate trolls, the same qualities we love in our favorite superheroes tends to shine forth in all of us and we feel the need to oust the troublemakers.

They are the Doc Ock's to our good-natured Spider-Man's. We'd love to avoid them, but it is a pain in the ass to turn a blind eye.

[Aaron Calimeri]

Originally posted by Buttery Wonder
Very true. As much as we all hate trolls, the same qualities we love in our favorite superheroes tends to shine forth in all of us and we feel the need to oust the troublemakers.

They are the Doc Ock's to our good-natured Spider-Man's. We'd love to avoid them, but it is a pain in the ass to turn a blind eye.

Unless you're Daredevil.

[Buttery Wonder]

LOL!

(I'm so tired, that took me a sec)

[Stephanie]

Reminds me of the time in the News section I didn't own an X-Box because there isn't enough games I would play to justify buying it and someone went crazy and tore into my post. Like Buttery Wonder I usually read what's there and then come here for discussions.