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LOOKING AT JUNE'S NUMBERS
 Diamond has released its actual sales data for comics and related products ordered by its accounts during the month of June 2003. Returning to the top of the heap, Batman #616 took the #1 spot for books sold, with an estimated 164,956 copies, according to Newsarama estimates. Marvel ranked #1 in both dollar and unit share for the month. Losing one of its slots this month, Marvel took eight of the top 10 slots, yielding #1 to Batman and #9 to Dreamwave’s Transformers: Generation One v.2 #3. As with the previous three months’ Actual Sales statistics released by Diamond, the chart does not just reflect preorders, but what was ordered by retailers and shipped by Diamond. While we went into detail in February in regards to where the numbers come from in the actual sales chart versus preorder, let’s do a quick recap – preorder charts only counted orders placed by retailers by the Initial Order Cut Off Date. The actual sales charts reflect those same comics, in addition to orders for advance reorders and back stock or overprint orders placed by retailers – all the orders must be placed prior to Diamond’s Final Order Cut Off Date, roughly 20 days before a book goes on sale. The top 25 titles shipped (and estimated copies of each) in June were: 1) Batman #616, 164,956 2) Ultimate X-Men #34, 128,897 3) Ultimate Spider-Man #42, 116,558 4) Wolverine #2, 116,228 5) New X-Men #142, 113,935 6) Uncanny X-Men #425, 106,545 7) Uncanny X-Men #426, 104,417 8) Incredible Hulk #56, 79,756 9) Transformers Generation One Vol 2 #3, 78,222 10) Venom #2, 77,925 11) Spider-Man & Wolverine #1, 77,661 12) X-treme X-Men #27, 74,395 13) Born #1, 73,966 14) Daredevil #48, 69,677 15) JLA #82, 68,061 16) Avengers #68, 67,022 17) Fantastic Four #70, 61,760 18) Marvel Universe: The End #6, 58,196 19) Peter Parker Spider-Man #57, 56,662 20) Outsiders #1, 55,475 21) Green Arrow #27, 54,831 22) Captain America #14, 53,116 23) New Mutants #2, 53,033 24) JSA #49, 50,905 25) GI Joe #18, 47,887 (margin of error +/- 8%) To view the full market statistics for June, click here. Newsarama Note: Estimated copies are just that – estimates of books shipped through Diamond to retailers. As such, the variability of the estimates is lower on publishers exclusive to Diamond. Of most significant note, June’s Top 25 reflects a rise in Batman copies ordered by retailers in May and a fall in Wolverine, last month’s #1 book. By Newsarama estimates, the fall between issues #1 and #2 of Wolverine was approximately 30%, which, while it may seem large for a book such as Wolverine, is fairly common, and perhaps almost a small drop that is typically seen between #1 and #2 issues. Also of note, given Marvel’s ordering terms, as with all books, retailers were able to adjust their orders on Wolverine #2 after issue #1 has been on sale in their stores. On the whole, Marvel lost some ground in the Top 25, losing two compared to May, and holding down 18. DC held four, while Image and Dreamwave had one apiece. Seven books were over the 100,000 mark, losing one from last month. Other items of note in the Top 25 are three debuts, Outsiders #1 at #20, Born #1 at #13, and Spider-Man/Wolverine #1 at #11. While Spider-Man/Wolverine #1 ranking where it did could have been anticipated, given the popularity of the lead characters, Born’s debut issue is notable, given that it was a title suggested for Mature Readers, which usually has a downward effect on rankings. Born #1 also clocked in 15 slots ahead of the regular The Punisher issue for June, reflecting approximately 28,000 more copies ordered by shops. Similarly, Outsiders #1’s ranking at #20 reflected more interest in this title than in Titans/Young Justice: Graduation Day, whose debut issue ranked at #40 in May, with roughly 12,000 fewer copies ordered. That said, issues #1-#3 of the miniseries sold out, indicating to both DC and retailers that demand was outpacing supply on that miniseries, which in and of itself was a strong indicator that sales on Outsiders were going to be very brisk indeed, and they were – the first issue of the series has sold out as well. Conceivably, the 12,000 copy discrepancy between Graduation Day and Outsiders #1 most likely played a role in DC’s decision to reprint the miniseries as a Compendium, due out later this month. It should be noted that DC issued the press release regarding Outsiders #1 selling out in June (the 26th), therefore, the number of copies listed (again, by Newsarama’s estimate) would approximate the book’s total print run (minus incidental copies, such as comp books), as it represents a quantity of books shipped to retailers sufficient enough to fill initial orders and deplete DC’s overprint. DC has not announced that it is going back to print on Outsiders #1 Likewise, Birds of Prey #56 (31,160) and Trinity #1 (45,891) also sold out. The same argument for both of these titles could be made, that is, that the estimated number of copies shipped represents a ballpark estimate of DC’s print run, just as estimated copies of Marvel books not available for reorder, such as Wolverine #2 (113,935) represent a ballpark estimate of Marvel’s print run for the issue. It could be argued that by announcing that they have sold out of copies of issues while at the same time announcing that they are not going back to print, DC now exposes itself to the same criticism that has been levied against Marvel. That is, audiences for the given series are effectively, capped. Take Birds of Prey #56 for example. The issue was the first of the new creative team of Gail Simone and Ed Benes, and saw an estimated 31,160 copies ordered by retailers. True – some stores may very well have copies sitting on the shelves, but by selling out at the publisher level within a day of the book’s on sale date, DC is stating that demand for the book by retailers (who answer to customers) was high. With no more copies available for reorder, supply has been capped – there are no new issues to sell to potential new readers. Now – the pressure is on the retailer. Do they order more copies of Birds of Prey #57 than they did of #56, figuring that demand on the series will continue to increase, or do they order the same number of copies, or fewer, figuring that demand will stay the same, or wane? Birds of Prey was chosen because it’s an ongoing series whose issue has sold out, and therefore, ther's no dropoff between a #1 and #2 issue to consider. As said above, it is a criticism that Marvel has faced since the beginning of its “no-overprint” policy, but the criticism can only be levied on the surface. As a standard operating procedure, DC has the option to go back to press, and for its own reasons (assumedly feeling that the demand at this point would not make a second printing of the issue cost-effective) has opted not to with these books. Going back to a Newsarama index of sorts, the 50% drop off (that is, the distance between the 100.00 ranked book and the 50.00 ranked title, which represents a 50% fall off in copies ordered is narrower than last month’s. In May, the 50.00 rank came between the #11 and #12 books. In June, that point was between #7 and #8. Or, by another quick and relative back of the envelope comparison, in May, the #10 book was Venom #1 with an approximate 98,110 copies shipped. This month’s #10 book, Venom #2 (coincidentally) saw an estimated 77,661 copies ship. Again, as mentioned with Wolverine earlier, some drop-off between the first and second issues of any series is expected, but with Marvel’s Terms of Sale allowing retailers to adjust their orders after a #1 issue has hit stores, the fluctuation between the #1 and #2 issue (in this case, a drop-off) is more “real” in a sense. For example, while retailers will use a rule of thumb between the first and second issues from other publishers to lower orders (#1s still sell better than #2s and all subsequent issues, generally speaking), with Marvel books, retailers can see if they have any copies of the #1 issue still sitting on their shelves, as well as customers who asked for it to be dropped form their pull list. Some other debuting titles of note in the Top 100 include: Kingpin #1 - debuting at #46 (46,402) Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman: Trinity #1 - debuting at #27 (45,891) Dark Days #1 debuting at #30 (45,000) – the highest debut for a non top 5 publisher. Planetary/Batman debuting at #31 (44,373) Hulk: Nightmerica #1 debuting at #36 (43,169) – roughly 36,000 fewer copies of this were ordered than the monthly Hulk series. Thundercats: Dogs of War #1 debuting at #42 (39,424) – the final issue of the last T-cats series, Thundercats Return #5 was two notches below at #44. While Return debuted in February at #26 on the chart, although, February’s estimates place it at only having an estimated 3,000 more copies ordered than Dogs of War. This would suggest that retailers have found the Thundercats audience, and it is relatively stable, although some attrition can be expected on Dogs of War. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Animated #1 debuted at #50 (37,214). Looking at dueling Dreamwave franchise books, the Transformers trumped the Turtles, as both Generation One and Armada saw higher orders. Lobo Unbound #1 debuted at #68 (31,259) Eternal #1 debuted at #84 (28,339) – 26 slots under Alias the other Marvel MAX title of the month. Terra Obscura #1 debuted at #86 (27,267) – well outpacing its other ABC title, Promethea at #121 with issue #26. Robotech: Love and War #1 debuted at #93 (26,393) Other issues of note: The highest-ranking CrossGen title was once again Sojourn, with issue #24 at #94 (25,667). The highest ranking Dark Horse title was Criminal Macabre #2 at #108 (22,681). Losers #1 debuted at #106 (22,945) Solus #4 ranked at #122 (19,349). It’s likely that this is the lowest a book illustrated by George Perez has ever sold. Walt Disney Comics and Stories #634 the first Gemstone issue - #217 (4,718) Uncle Scrooge #319 the first Gemstone issue - #193 (8,215) T3: Before the Rise #1 landed at #196 (8,132) it should be noted, however, that T3 had extensive bookstore distribution as well. Buzz Books: Catwoman #20 #88 – 26,970 Spider-Girl #61 #87 – 27036 (up slightly from May) estimates) HERO #5 #105 – 23,061 Gotham Central #8 #119 – 20,026 Who Does #2 Work For? As mentioned above, the drop-offs between #1 and #2 issues is usually sharp, sometimes precipitous. For consideration, then: New Mutants #2 #23 (50,905) vs. New Mutants #1 #18 (60,414) JSA All-Stars #2 #32 (44,159) vs. JSA All-Stars #1 #29 (46,154) Wolverine: Snikt #2 #34 (43,763) vs. Wolverine: Snikt #1 #30 (44,994) Authority v.2 #2 #37 (42,955) vs. Authority v.2 #1 #26 (46,994) Inhumans #2 #61 (33,173) vs. Inhumans #1 #37 (41,131) Domino #2 #89 (29,362) vs. Domino #1 #68 (31,482) Imprints and Publishers Other Tsunami Titles: Mystique #3 ranked at #33, shipping an estimated 43,796 copies. Human Torch #3 ranked at #81, with 29,412 Namor #3 ranked at #62, with an estimated 32,612 copies. Sentinel #3 landed at #89, with 26, 739 copies. Runaways #3 ranked at #101 with 23,820 All #3 issues held fairly steady from their #2 volumes. Again, as stated last month, by and large, while Marvel seems to be supporting its Tsunami titles for now (with a publication of a Sentinel/Runaways must have), numbers on the titles from the initiative are sliding toward what Jemas once derisively referred to as “DC numbers.” Marvel’s current cancellation volume appears to be around 20,000 copies a month, and if the titles continue to hold their heads above water, they should be safe from the axe. Something that will also help the line as a whole is the report that have been picked up by Barnes & Noble and Waldenbooks, which will allow for more copies to be sold, although the numbers of copies going to the bookstores will not be reflected in Diamond’s numbers. Wildstorm Titles Gen13 #10 #133 – 18,277 StormWatch: Team Achilles #12 #149 – 15,621 Sleeper #6 #176 – 10,904 21 Down #10 #188 – 9,089 Wildcats 3.0 #10 #131 – 18,657 Vertigo Y: The Last Man #12 #78 - 30,055 Fables #14 #83 – 29,296 The Filth #11 #110 – 22,187 100 Bullets #45 #120 – 19,663 Hellblazer #185 #125 – 19,102 American Century #25 #181 – 10,326 Blood & Water #4 #141 – 16,924 Beware the Creeper #3 #152 – 15,126 Lucifer #39 #148 – 15,720 Hunter: Age of Magic #23 #163 – 13.048 Vertigo Pop!: Bangkok #2 #186 – 9,221 CrossGen Again, while most CrossGen titles remain tightly clustered, there has been some spreading (both up and down) in recent months, as the publisher has added titles. Perhaps so with CrossGen more than any other publisher, monthly sales are a part of the measure of a company’s health. While, if measured by Marvel’s ruler (any series selling under 20,000 copies a month is axed), CrossGen would most likely close its doors, the publisher quickly turns all of its comics into trades, which are bought by a customer base which includes many who are not part of the monthly audience, thus creating a separate cash stream for the company. Translation, don’t start your knees knocking because CrossGen’s titles are selling under 15,000 copies. While, obviously it’s most likely not the way the company would like to operate, low monthly sales are not indicative of imminent shutdown. Sojourn #24 #94 - 25,667 Lady Death #5 #114 – 21,840 Solus #4 #122 - 19,349 Ruse #21 #164 – 12,999 Way of the Rat #14 #138 – 17,106 Silken Ghost #2 #155 – 14,500 Brath #4 #147 – 15,935 Chimera #4 #143 – 16,364 The Path #15 #177 – 10,656 Scion #36 #151 – 15,522 Negation #18 #158 – 13,708 Mystic #37 #159 – 13,427 Sigil #37 #162 – 13,048 Crux #27 #160 – 13,262 Mark of Charon #4 #165 – 12,982 Route 666 #13 #166 – 12,900 The First #32 #168 – 12,751 Meridian #37 #167 – 12,850 Crossovers #6 #179 – 10,409 RA Salvatore DemonWars: Eye for an Eye #2 #184 – 9,831 20K Club The 20,000 cutoff point for June appears to be around ranking #152 and #153, with Gotham Central #8 coming in at #152 with an estimated 20,026 copies ordered and 100 Bullets #45 landing at #153 with an estimated 19,663 copies ordered. Many titles are clustered in the 15-20,000 range, including Superman: Metropolis, Black Panther, Harley Quinn, Empire and Sam & Twitch. Traditionally, the 20,000 mark is the cutoff for Marvel cancellation, however, the only titles from the publisher in that bracket are the already cancelled Black Panther, Soldier X, Thunderbolts and The Call. Startling Stories: Night Falls on Yancy Street #1 also falls in that range. It should be noted that while titles selling under 20,000 copies a month (not counting reorders after the order is placed) usually bear the mark of death at Marvel and DC, due to corporate structuring, some titles from other Top 5 publishers can continue and even modestly thrive. Likewise, such numbers are de rigueur for Image titles and other small press books. The first reorder comes in at #199 - Batman #615 with an approximate 7,967 copies reordered, placing its reorder ahead of first run titles, such as Clockmaker, and just under Rex Mundi and Kore. Again, the highest ranked “kid’s comic” was The Power Puff Girls at #189, with an estimated 8,710 copies. The Under 10K Club The 10,000 copy cutoff point appears to come roughly between ranking #182 (Masters of the Universe Vol.2 holofoil cover) and #183 (Vampirella #21. Some titles selling less than 10,000 copies include: Soul of a Samurai, Queen and Country, Clockmaker, Mythstalkers and Heirs of Eternity and virtually all comic published by Archie. Of course, whether or not any given comic is profitable at that level of orders depends upon the publisher and talent. While many self-published and small press books can pull off selling less than 10,000 copies, it gets admittedly trickier with larger publishers. For example, take a $2.95 cover price comics with an estimated 9,000 copies ordered. Retail, that comes to $26,550.00. However, retailers, on average, pay about 55% of the cover price (some more, some less, depending upon the retailer and the publisher) for their comics from Diamond, reflecting an average 45% discount off of cover price. That said, Diamond collects roughly, $14,602.50. Diamond gets all of that money from the retail accounts, and then cuts the publisher a check for a percentage of that. Percentages (that is, discounts that the publisher sells their product to Diamond for) vary, but 60% off cover is a decent ballpark. For example, a publisher would sell a $10.00 book to Diamond for $4.00. Again, very, very generally, but using 60% as our discount for the above publisher, Diamond owes the publisher $10,620 for all the issues it sold. Diamond cuts the publisher a check for that amount, and keeps the remainder, $3982.50. Back on the publisher’s side, they now have $10,620 for that issue, to pay the creators (writer, penciller, inker, colorist, letterer, cover artist, and any set-up charges), staff (editor), and overhead (lights air, coffee, office staff, office equipment, and foot massages). Using some general industry guidelines, the writer can get around 30% of that, and the penciller another 25-30%, so from the very beginning, the publisher can be down to $4248 for the rest of the team, the staff, and overhead. Again, this was all very general numbers, as discounts vary from retailer to retailer and publisher to publisher. Again, it should be noted that many of the publishers in the lower end of the Top 300 are not exclusive to Diamond, and have other avenues to distribute their books. 5K and Below While, as stated above, many publishers can apparently make less than 10,000 monthly copies work, under 5,000 copies is where flags start going up, pipes burst, rivets pop, the engine room starts to flood, and the whole shebang is in danger of going down under the waves for many publishers, as the costs of publishing a book with such low numbers are barely being met, unless said publisher is able to drastically keep production prices low. By Newsarama estimates, the 5,000 level appears to be just between #216 and #217 on the chart, that is, Cannon God Exaxxion and Walt Disney’s Comics and Stories. Titles seeing less that 5,000 monthly copies ordered in May include: Love Fights, Warren Ellis Scars, Deathmask, Metallix and Popbot. Also – looking at the numbers of books under the 5,000 copy mark, many reorders come into play, including a handful of Marvel reorders, which appear to be moving 2,300 to 1,500 copies. Looking at the reorders of books that shipped in recent months (just reorders and not items on Diamond’s STAR System), the activity is dominated by Marvel and DC, with only minor reorders from any other publisher in the Top 5. However, just because they are not listed doe not mean no other company is shipping reorders. Their absence on the Top 300 list means that reorder activity for any given title available for reorder is under roughly 1,287 copies. The #300 book this moth had an approximate 1,287 copies ordered. The #300 book in May had an estimated 1,023 copies ordered. The #300 book in April had an estimated 1,628 copies ordered. The Trade Game As with issue #6 of the current series, it is possible that retailers were ordering heavy on League of Extraordinary Gentlemen in anticipation of the movie as well, as the trade of the first series was the #1 trade ordered by Diamond retail accounts for May, with approximately 11,191 copies of the $14.95 book shipped. The Top 25 trades for June (and estimated copies shipped) were: 1) Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 6 7,918 2) Across the Universe: DC Stories of Alan Moore 5,592 3) Alan Moore’s Another Suburban Romance 5,229 4) Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 4 Life & Death of Spiders 4,883 5) Love Hina Vol.11 4,635 6) Chobits v.6 4,272 7) Intron Depot v. 3 4,107 8) League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Book One 4,008 9) New Teen Titans Terror of Trigon 3,810 10) Stra Wars: A Long Time Ago v.6 3,514 11) League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Absolute Edition 3,514 12) Exiles v.4 3,415 13) Spider-Man Legends v.2 Todd McFarlane 3,415 14) Alias v.4 3,332 15) Superman: President Lex 3,184 16) Undercover Genie 3,151 17) Cowboy Bebop: Shooting Stars v.2 3,035 18) Rawhide Kid 3,019 19) Green Lantern: Brother’s Keeper 2,903 20) Proposition Player 2,771 21) Thundercats: Reclaiming Thundera 2,771 22) GTO v.12 2,722 23) Green Lantern: The Road Back 2,672 24) Astro Boy v.16 2,656 25) Superman Archives v.6 2,606 Market Share As with May, June’s Market share is led by Marvel in both dollars and units, leading DC by 10 nearly percentage points in each category. The Top 5 in terms of dollar share percentage: 1) Marvel – 31.51 (down from May) 2) DC – 30.56 (up from May) 3) Image – 6.44 (down from May) 4) Dark Horse – 5.34 (up from May) 5) CrossGen – 4.03 (down from May) The Top 5 in terms of unit share percentage: 1) Marvel – 41.46 (down from May) 2) DC – 31.91 (up from May) 3) Image – 6.37 (down from May) 4) CrossGen – 4.20 (down from May) 5) Dark Horse – 3.45 (down from May) |
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07-14-2003, 07:50 PM
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Nice job Matt. I have two questions though.
You neglected to include Y - The Last Man on the Vertigo estimates list and that was the highest ranking Vertigo book. Also, is there any way to figure out an estimate for the number of copies of Incredible Hulk #55 (the quarter issue) ordered? Thanks. - Howard |
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07-14-2003, 07:58 PM
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MattB, you are a friggin legend! That was an absolutely fantastic breakdown of the figures, really sorted a lot of things out in my head! Keeep up the good work man! I realy enjoyed the comparsion between #1's and 2's!
P.S. Do you think any of the Tsunami books can last more than 3 years? |
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07-14-2003, 08:01 PM
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Well, Jim Lee and Jeph Loeb return to number 1, not suprisingly. And Brian Michael Bendis pretty well reconfirms he's the top selling comic writer, with number 2, number 3, and number 14 for his three big name titles. Toss in ranking number 73 with Powers, Images number 2 title from what I see, and at number 66 his other Marvel book, Max title Alias, and he's clearly the top dog at present when it comes to writing.
Too bad him and Lee are at different companies. That could be one top selling team, albeit probably not real compatible, considering Bendis's slow paced dialouge/talking head style, and Lee's penchant for drawing incredible action scenes... |
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07-14-2003, 08:12 PM
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So, FF has edged up from #21 last month to #17.
And it's selling 6,000ish more copies IIRC. Interesting... Last edited by OcCaM : 07-14-2003 at 08:17 PM. |
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07-14-2003, 08:29 PM
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What about the Trades?
These numbers are great. The more rare a comic the more it will be worth in the future. My comics are MY sOcIal securIty. (gotta get it somewhere)
I own 1 of 53,116 I own 1 of 69,677 I own 1 of 73,966 I own 1 of 79,756 I own 1 of 113,935 I own 1 of 116,558 I own 1 of 128,897 I own 3 of 164,956 (2 newsstand editions because they are rarer) That's just the top 25 I buy DC, Vertigo and Marvel mostly. I also have mint copys of the Planetary/Batman which came in at #31 (44,373), Losers #1 #106 (22,945), T3: Before the Rise #1 #196 (8,132)( Beckett said about 200,000 would be in circulation) Catwoman #20 #80 (26,970) Wolverine: Snikt #2 #34 (43,763). Wolverine: Snikt #1 #30 (44,994) The Filth #11 #110 – 22,187, 100 Bullets #45 #120 – 19,663, Beware the Creeper #3 #152 – 15,126 BTW are those the total number of trades shipped in the US or do bookstores get them from somewhere else? And MattBrady give yourself a pat on the back from gOgIver. I couldn't have done it without you.  "gOgIver's The LIST! Accept no substitutes."  |
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07-14-2003, 08:43 PM
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Uncanny X-Men ranked 6/7
I continue to be amazed at Uncanny X-Men being a top 10 book. The comic hasn't been good for years now. Bad writing and most often horrific art. Ron Garney was horrible. Far from worthy of a top line comic.
I guess marvel sees that the book is selling, so why invest money to make it readeable. It is the fan's fault. Will you people please stop buying this book!!! I grew up on the Uncanny X-Men, and have a great run of over 200 issues, but I had to stop. I couldn't accept paying marvel and encouraging them to put out such a bad product. I await the rest of the comic fandom to do the same. |
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07-14-2003, 08:57 PM
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Grrr, it's absolutely criminal that Runaways is selling so poorly.
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07-14-2003, 09:29 PM
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Great work, Matt. You're the bomb!
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07-14-2003, 09:31 PM
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You do realize that according to those numbers, almost every title experienced an 8 to 9% increase in sales from last month's figures? Something's not right there.
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07-14-2003, 09:35 PM
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Re: What about the Trades?
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I had Mexican today, I've got something in the toilet that's one of a kind. I don't think I can get any money for it though |
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07-14-2003, 10:46 PM
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Re: Uncanny X-Men ranked 6/7
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On another note, it's really sad to see such great comics as Sentinel and Runaways placed down at the #89 and #101 - I hope the Marvel Must Have flip book will attract some new readers... |
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07-14-2003, 11:23 PM
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uncanny x-men
So people really do like Chuck Austen? I have read a few of his X-Men issues and was just amazed at the poor writing. The 25 cent issue was extremely poorly written for an issue meant to attract new readers or bring back some old fans (myself). Austen just reminds me too much of Lobdell. The writing just isn't fluid, and even good art can't save poor writing (i.e. youngblood).
Oh, one more thing. Will Rising Stars ever finish? Yeah the writer is great and all that stuff, but doesn't he feel some type of responsibility as far as getting issues out in a timely manner. I guess as far as I am concerned he lost the title of great with this series. I can barely remember the last issue. And these little limited series do nothing. |
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07-14-2003, 11:47 PM
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Re: uncanny x-men
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It's a beautiful thing. No matter how poorly you do, there is someone out there that will like you. Even Chuck Austen. |
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07-15-2003, 12:07 AM
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I agree. In defewnce of Matt, he did say that these numbers are an estimation and may not be entirely acurate. I personaly put more stock/ credence in ICV's numbers, then Matt's (no offence Matt). |
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07-15-2003, 12:11 AM
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From looking at this list, these are the ones that surprise me in terms of that they seem like they really should be selling more copies (I'm not going to count certain titles like Blood and Water, Promethea, Beware the Creeper, Love Fights, etc. which don't surprise me that there is a more limited audience):
Y: The Last Man Fables Runaways H-E-R-O Gotham Central Batman Adventures Lucifer ---- Should we worry about any of these titles? Or do they have a lower threshhold in terms of continuing to be published? It just seems likes some of these titles would have a higher degree of interest and a larger readership. -Zadillo |
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07-15-2003, 12:27 AM
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Re: uncanny x-men
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JMS is having issues with Top Cow. We may never see the conclusion to Rising Stars, but we will probably see the conclusion of Supreme Power.  |
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07-15-2003, 01:15 AM
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WOW! I kinda excepted Wolverine to take #1 for the second time, but it's cool that it still made the top 10 at least.
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07-15-2003, 01:35 AM
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DC seems to manage a low threshold for the Vertigo and Animated titles. Nonetheless, the glass is definitely half full for Fables and Y. The former launched with around 20,000 copies, and the latter with under 15,000, and now each are doing around 30,000 copies a month. But I am concerned/perturbed about the 25 percent drop in the gorgeously drawn, well written Inhumans. Ah well, seems like it's in the middle of the pack of Tsunami books. |
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07-15-2003, 07:10 AM
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Re: LOOKING AT JUNE'S NUMBERS
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I am so happy to see Outsiders become a Top 20 selling book right out of the gate. It was a very fun story with lovely art and a terrific cast. I enjoyed Winick's take on each and every member of the team. Additionally, Tom Raney and Scott Hanna should absolutely take a bow. This is without a doubt one of DC's best looking books. Counting the days 'til the second issue comes out... |
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07-15-2003, 07:32 AM
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INHUMANS rules
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Ditto. Inhumans was one of the best surprises I've had so far this year. Sean McKeever's dialogue is very powerful and all the new Inhumans are extremely strong characters. That alone is impressive, but Matt Clark's art provides the crowning touch to the series. While I don't think its sales are necessarily bad, I too am very disappointed to not see more people buying Inhumans. It has some of the best writing and art of any ongoing Marvel monthly currently published. I hope McKeever & Clark can maintain this high level of quality long enough to hook a wider audience; they deserve to. Quote:
You're not the only one. I too am enjoying Chuck Austen's run on UNCANNY. Certainly he's one of the few writers to actually take the time to pay attention to what has been established before, i.e. Havok's breakup with Polaris in MUTANT X. As for the art, our prayers have been answered: Salvador Larroca is the new artist! RE: Runaways I'll have to admit my complicity in this fine series' poor sales. I've been following the book from the first issue and must say it's been a blast. However, my comics budget is completely maxed out so unfortunately it's one of those that got cut. But you're absolutely right--it's a great comic deserving of more attention than it's been getting. Brian Vaughan is a phenomenal writer! Last edited by GenXMaverick : 07-15-2003 at 07:36 AM. |
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07-15-2003, 07:43 AM
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Why is ASM #53 in #299?
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07-15-2003, 07:56 AM
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that's a reorder of the previous month's issue. Look at the item codes - products that shipped in June had a product code that started with APR, meaning they were solicited in the April edition of Previews. ASM #53's product code is MAR, meaning it was the previous month's issue. Meanwhile, the "June" issue of ASM (#54) came out on July 2nd, so it wasn't listed in this chart. MattB |
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07-15-2003, 09:19 AM
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Suprises Galore
I am very suprised with Uncanny its quality has been subpar to say the least. There is a Austen book I like though and that's THE ETERNAL. That's a book that is going to be cancelled way too soon. With OUTSIDERS debut I am wondering where TEEN Titans will rank. It's a shame that SLEEPER is selling so low.
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07-15-2003, 09:31 AM
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Uncanny & Numbers
The newest Uncanny X-Men is an awesome read. I completely agree that a few issues have been quiet a bit on the horrid side, but this Prologue to the next storyline (I think it's called The Draco or something like that) is excellent. After reading this story, drawn by Sean Phillips, my interest in Nightcrawler grew even more. The birth of Nightcrawler!
As for the sales... I am very upset at some of the numbers. Why are Runaways and Sentinel doing so poorly while a sh*t book like Venom is in the top ten! Come on, at least do better than Namor or Human Torch for f*ck sake. And, can somebody tell me, when are the Wildstorm books going to pick up steam. Wildcats v.2, 21 Down, and Sleeper are all worthy of the top 100. Wildstorm really needs to get more airplay. Somebody, please get them an ad in Wizard. This just p*sses me off. Anywhos, enough rambling. Off to work I go. peace.dj_me |
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