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MattBrady
11-14-2002, 04:57 PM
<img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Creators/Cleese.jpg" width="175" height="204" align="right" alt="Cleese as Q in Die Another Day - a little more serious than his Python days...">Why did the Python cross the pond? Apparently, to write Superman.

As <a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000048" target="_blank"> revealed</a> at last weekend’s RRP meeting, Monty Python alum (and current Q in the Bond films) John Cleese will co-write a Superman Elseworlds one-shot for DC Comics entitled Superman: True Brit

The project originated with Kim Howard Johnson, someone well known on the ‘other’ side of comics, that is, the editorial and administrative. Throughout his career, Johnson has worked as a newspaper journalist, performed improve comedy with Del Close, written for Starlog and Comics Scene, was the marketing director of Event Comics and later Moondog Comics.

Oh yeah – and he knows the Pythons – something which is why other comics editors and pros hold him in a mix of awe and trepidation. After all, those Python guys are a little…off. One such editor who knew of Johnson’s connections with the Pythons was DC Executive Editor, Mike Carlin.

”About 15 years ago, my old pal Mike said to me, ‘If any of 'those guys' ever want to do anything with Superman, let me know,’” Johnson said. “Last year, I mentioned this to John, expecting the answer ‘No.’ To my astonishment, he said, ‘That sounds interesting.’ And we began discussing it...”

For readers who may not know, Johnson was one of the first American Python fans, and first met Terry Jones and Graham Chapman in 1975, and his attachment to the British comedy group grew from there. “I went on to do a three-issue Python fanzine, about which the guys frightened me with their enthusiasm,” Johnson said. “In the days before such negative connotations were attached to stalking, I hitchhiked to Tunisia from Ottawa, Illinois, and was taken under their wing, working with the group during the filming of Life of Brian. I was young and enthusiastic, I worked cheap, and I spoke English, an irresistible combination to the boys.

"I went on to play 18 roles in the film, three more than John Cleese. I also appeared in Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl as a Pantomime Goose. We remained friends throughout the years, and in 1989, the first of my four Python books, The First 200 Years of Monty Python, was released by St. Martin's Press. I'm now in my third year of indentured servitude to John Cleese, and…are your readers really going to care about all this?”

For Carlin, the special has a sense of destiny about it…“Since seeing John in his Superman costume in the Bicycle-Repairman sketch on Monty Python's Flying Circus... I knew it was just a matter of time,” Carlin said. “So yeah, about about 15 years ago when I first met Howard, I knew of his affiliation with the Pythons, and I floated the idea that if any Python ever wanted to do something with Superman, as I was the Superman editor at the time, to please let me know about it. Secretly I hoped, at best, we'd get a Terry Gilliam doodle or something for a cover.

<img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Creators/cleese2.jpg" width="175" height="219" alt="maybe this John Cleese is one you're more familair with? " align="left">“15 years later Howard called and reminded me of my request... and it was that he and John Cleese had an idea to do a Superman Elseworlds. The rest is history... though still in the future... um... well... you know what I mean!”

Carlin described the project as mostly a “satirical Elseworlds,” that will, at the same time, be a straight DC book, an Elseworlds, and a project that will make wry commentary on super-heroes and the world we live in. From Carlin's comments at the RRP: “It’s ‘What if Superman’s rocketship lands in England and the tabloids chase him away?’ I have an offer out to an artist; I don’t have him confirmed yet, but I think it’ll happen.”

Hey – you expected anything less, story-wise from John Cleese?

While Cleese is familiar to most American audience members as “the tall one” of the Monty Python group, Johnson pointed out that, like the rest of the troupe, Cleese has many credits beyond walking in a silly fashion and being attacked by a rabbit, and True Brit will play into his other strengths.

”Although John has written humorous scripts and screenplays - Python, Fawlty Towers, A Fish Called Wanda, documentaries - The Human Face, and co-written best-selling books - Families and How to Survive Them, Life and How to Survive It, Superman: True Brit may be most derivative of a film he wrote for Video Arts titled Balance Sheet Barrier: the Basics of Business Finance.”

Carlin agreed with Johnson’s praise for Cleese’s writing. “For my money, A Fish Called Wanda is one of the tightest, best dramatic comedies I've seen,” Carlin said. “And Fawlty Towers is arguably the best structured sit-com ever...”

Not looking to pull the wool over anyone’s eyes, Carlin did admit that Cleese’s name and abilities as a writer played a big part in True Brit happening, but pointed out that this wasn’t a case of a star waltzing in the door of DC, and waltzing back out with a comics gig. “This was solicited story,” Carlin said. “The way any writer gets solicited is for us to be aware of their work. John didn't buck any systems here...oh, and I'm a groupie.

“The story as it stands now is different than the one originally proposed as I wanted John to bring some commentary to the story of Superman, in humorous form that I couldn't get from any other established writer. It was a request for him to ‘write what he knows’...and with Howard's knowledge of Superman and comics... that's a pretty tough project to turn down.”

Johnson’s years with the Pythons showed a little though, when he was asked if star power was behind this project getting off the ground. “Frankly, I resent the implication that John and DC are using my star power to capitalize on this project, despite the occasionally-bitter arguments over whose name should be listed first...”

While both Carlin and Johnson weren’t about to mention what, specifically, the storyline of True Brit would be about, we asked Johnson to explain a little of what the one-shot won’t be – that is, Cleese and Johnson won’t be out to Python-ize Superman, and there won’t be gratuitous scenes with Spam, or a shot of Superman beginning to play an organ, only to have his costume fly off.

Or will it?

“Have you been talking to Carlin? I told him the costume flying off was supposed to be a secret! Unfortunately, John has forgotten all of the old Python sketches, and it soon became more trouble than it was worth,” Johnson said. “Actually, it's the story of a young man, born in a distant land, and an older woman, wise in the ways of love, who takes him softly, gently into her arms one night and teaches him about passion, unbridled lust, guiding his fingers as he probes her every--sorry, that's the sequel.”

And finally, if True Brit goes over well, Johnson and Carlin are of two minds as to how to proceed from there – Johnson favors Just Imagine John Cleese Creating the DC Universe, while, according to Carlin, “There are four more Pythons we can try to ensnare!!”

The project is currently unscheduled, but is tentatively on DC’s 2003 release calendar. No artist has been selected yet, but Carlin reported that the publisher is in talks with an illustrator.

11-14-2002, 05:20 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Matt Brady:
<strong>And finally, if True Brit goes over well, Johnson and Carlin are of two minds as to how to proceed from there – Johnson favors Just Imagine John Cleese Creating the DC Universe</strong><hr></blockquote>

LMAO

Tom Daylight
11-14-2002, 05:29 PM
Don't mention Our Worlds At War!

Jer-el
11-14-2002, 05:30 PM
This ought to be hilarious.

Julio Diaz
11-14-2002, 05:34 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Fetsur:
<strong>Don't mention Our Worlds At War!</strong><hr></blockquote>

**cue dramatic music***

NOBODY expects Our Worlds At War!

Best,

Julio

Velvet Glove
11-14-2002, 05:34 PM
I'm in -- just hope it isn't years before we finally see the project!

Tom Daylight
11-14-2002, 05:49 PM
That was a reference to Cleese's finest (half) hour, Fawlty Towers, by the way (co-written by Cleese and his then wife Connie Booth).

The famous episode "The Germans", in which Basil Fawlty instructs his staff not to make any mention of WWII in front of their German guests, hence the catchphrase "Don't mention the war!"

And Our Worlds At War being that awful storyline that ran through all the Superman books as well as a few others last year.

Grendel Prime
11-14-2002, 05:53 PM
Wow! This is way cooler than more Kevin Smith.

A Terry Gilliam cover would be perfect for this book. I hope, I hope, I hope.

MattBrady
11-14-2002, 05:57 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Grendel Prime:
<strong>Wow! This is way cooler than more Kevin Smith.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Um....no....it's not...not around these parts, at least. :D

MattB

Elayne Riggs
11-14-2002, 06:03 PM
So on the heels of this "Python writes comic!", I wonder if Mike Carlin is a Firesign Theatre fan. Hey Mr. C, e-mail me, I might be able to get any of the 4or5 to agree to write a DC comic... maybe Firesign fan Joey Cavalieri could edit! :)

- Elayne (former Firehead Head)

DanLTaylor
11-14-2002, 06:05 PM
And, now for something completely different...

Lestat de Lioncourt
11-14-2002, 06:23 PM
You don't understand Matt, John Cleese is a national treasure! Smith's cool, very cool. But never in a million years did I expect to hear JOHN CLEESE writing a superman comic!!!! This is sooo cool!! I hope Micheal Palin gets to write one! PLease please please DC! Get Terry Gillaim to draw it!!!! This is like Homer Simpson writing one!!! :p

Kevin T. Brown
11-14-2002, 06:25 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Matt Brady:
<strong>

Um....no....it's not...not around these parts, at least. :D

MattB</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ah yes, this is supposed to be a Marvel oriented site, correct?

:D

TTROY
11-14-2002, 06:25 PM
a second the motion for a terry Gilliam Cover lol!!!

CLEESE is one of the most talented wrioters there has erver been, and those who claim he is nothing without Grahmn Chapman ...really did not look at the struture of Fawlty Towers there was more in 1 episode of that show than there was in 5 of an american sitcom...(hard to believe there were only 12 ever made..)

Cleese also appeared as a guest star on two sitcoms in some very cute roles in Cheers and 3rd Rock(his appearance there was brilliant)

This seems like and interesting project hope they choose an appropriate artist...ie someone british

Rich Johnston
11-14-2002, 06:32 PM
Best structured sitcom? Fawlty Towers? It's good but Seinfeld, Coupling and Joking Apart kick its arse, structure-wise...

John Osen
11-14-2002, 07:08 PM
quote:
AnthonyL, the word is whether. Weather is what you go outside in without an umbrella.
Dear god no! Not my spelling!!!

Spelling the word "weather" correctly when you meant to write "whether" is not a spelling error. You simply didn't know the difference between two words with completely different meanings. Now's the part where you respond "Get a life, Pointdexter" like you did with Blues Brother. Let the flaming begin.

MattBrady
11-14-2002, 07:30 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Kevin T. Brown:
<strong>

Ah yes, this is supposed to be a Marvel oriented site, correct?

:D </strong><hr></blockquote>

With Jay and Silent Bob banners everywhere? C;mon - everyone knows this is Kevin Smith's personal vanity comics site wher we only talk about him 24/7....again

"Kevin...godammit."

And it still makes no sense if you didn't watch South Park...

MattB

KM
11-14-2002, 08:48 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Rich Johnston:
<strong>Best structured sitcom? Fawlty Towers? It's good but Seinfeld, Coupling and Joking Apart kick its arse, structure-wise...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Seinfeld? Better structured than Fawlty Towers? Que?

TTROY
11-14-2002, 10:23 PM
I'll give you Coupling but Seinfeld?

Gelogurte
11-14-2002, 10:27 PM
Wow!
Comics won't get much cooler than this!
Give us your best shot Mr Cleese!

PopCultureKid
11-14-2002, 10:38 PM
Just Imagine John Cleese creating the DC Universe...Ambush Bug! On second thought, even Python wouldn't go there.

MIKEON-LINE
11-15-2002, 02:01 AM
John Cleese writing for Superman?

Well, all I've got to say is that JLA/Avengers has just earned itself some competition as my most eagerly-anticipated 'event' book. ;)

basement dweller
11-15-2002, 02:52 AM
And now for something completely DC.

I'm sorry it had to be said at one point

Richard Werder
11-15-2002, 03:12 AM
This may vey well be both the oddest and the coolest thing I've heard all year.

OM
11-15-2002, 04:24 AM
...Matty, just a quick correction: Every time Johnson's name has been in print, it's listed as Kim "Howard" Johnson. Per Monty Python: The First 200 years, "Howard" isn't really part of his name, but one that was given to him by the Pythons over the years thanks to the popularity level of the Howard Johnsons motor inns.

Unless, of course, he's had it legally changed since then...

...Now, for something completely different, a list of things we won't see in True Brit:

1) The Larch.

2) The Dead Kryptonian Sketch.

3) A sketch that seques into a song about a transvestite lumberjack singing about Kryptonian trees with a chorus of Eradicators.

4) The Larch.

5) The Upper-Class Science Council Twit of the Year competition.

6) Clark & Lois going to a marraige councillor, who asks the mild-mannered reporter to leave the office while he shags Lois for a while.

7) Clark getting a 16-ton weight dumped on him.

8) The total theft of Michael Palin's What If Superman Landed In Nazi Germany? sketch from the glory years of SNL.

9) A sketch set in "Metropolis: 2001", dealing with the front lines during OWAW, and Emil Hamilton having to go for ammunition because the CO said "everyone with two real arms who doesn't want to go for ammo raise both real arms!"

10) Imperiex being slain by the World's Most Deadliest Joke.

11) Steel walking down the street flashing women who pass by, only to eventually revealed to be fully clothed underneath the Aegis Armor and wearing a sign over his crotch that says "Boo!"

12) Jimmy Olsen revealed to be one of the Gumbys.

13) The B13 virus being revealed to be Spam. Spam Spam. Spam Spam Spam. Spam Spam Bacon Spam. Spam Eggs Bacon Spam. Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam, or Lobster Thermidor au Crevettes with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.

14) A Sam Peckinpah episode of Smallville.

15) A Ken Russell episode of Smallville.

16) Superman getting a visit from the Kryptonian Inquisition.

17) Clark visiting a Cheese shop run by Manchester Black.

18) OWAW being revealed to have merely been a front of the Light Entertainment War.

19) "Number Four: Kryptonite Frog."

20) Lex Luthor and Bruce Wayne giving an appeal on the behalf of extremely rich people.

21) The Larch.

22) An interview with Clark "Two Fortresses Of Solitude" Kent.

23) General Sam Lane popping up in the middle of a sketch, ordering it to a halt because "it's silly."

24) There is no #24.

25) Clark apprehending a bank robber attempting to rob a lingerie store.

26) A Thames television announcer plugging upcoming shows for the evening, "but first, here's a rotten old GBS programme!"

27) Lex Luthor hosting "Blackmail" - "We'll be seeing more of this photo unless we hear from either 'Jimmy' or 'Clark'!"

28) Dennis Moore joining the Justice League.

29) Two accountants betting on who Luthor will throw next out a window.

30) Aquaman guest starring in the Fish Slapping Dance sketch.

31) Project Cadmus being revealed as being run by Gumbys.

32) Hell's Grannies visting Apokolips for tea.

33) The Kryptonian Phrasebook Sketch.

34) The Interstellar Wife Swapping sketch, featuring Clark & Lois, Scott & Barda Free, Adam & Alanna Strange, John Stewart and whichever former GL or Darkstar he's sleeping with, and Ultra Boy & Apparition.

35) "The Song of Red Orion" on an Aldis Lamp.

36) "The Semaphore Version of The Atlantis Chronicles"

37) The Ministry of Silly Powers sketch.

38) "Superman vs Mr. Neutron" sketch.

39) Plastic Man & Clark in "Nudge Nudge".

40) The Pantomime Super-Horse sketch.

41) The Larch.

42) The "Tonight, Lex Luthor will be tuning into our program" sketch.

43) Teddy Salad, DEO agent.

44) Ten seconds of Sex. Probably starring the Flash and Jessie Quick.

45) Widowed Lois in "The Undertaker Sketch"

46) "The Wacky President" sketch.

47) "Lemon Curry?"

48) The Saga of Eric the Half-A-Kryptonian.

49) There is no #49.

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51) The Larch.

TTROY
11-15-2002, 07:41 AM
OM STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD...SLOWLY.....

THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE BEST USE OF ANYONE'S TIME POSTING HERE.

wow.

MY HEADS HURTS!!!!!!NOOOOOO


(going to do a fish slapping dance and have some coffee)

TTROY
11-15-2002, 07:42 AM
and now...a man with three keyboards...


stop this stop this


this is silly.....


OM STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD...SLOWLY.....

THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE BEST USE OF ANYONE'S TIME POSTING HERE.

wow.

MY HEADS HURTS!!!!!!NOOOOOO


(going to do a fish slapping dance and have some coffee)

borateen
11-15-2002, 11:10 AM
I'm looking forward to the confusion when everyone is renamed Bruce, and they all sing a song about a model of the Fortress of Solitude.

Rob R.

AND THE LLAMAS!! DON'T FORGET THE LLAMAS!!

Tom Daylight
11-15-2002, 11:50 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Kevin T. Brown:
<strong>

Ah yes, this is supposed to be a Marvel oriented site, correct?

:D </strong><hr></blockquote>

I think he was actually talking about Newsarama's host... :)

Nakedmanatee
11-15-2002, 12:11 PM
Sometimes OM uses his powers for good, instead of evil. (And sometimes it's hard to tell.)

Seriously tho', if you're not making money writing somewheres, you should be!

Dave

The Blue Spider
11-15-2002, 12:38 PM
<font color=blue>The British are coming the British are coming!

Here's my question.... is it easy for Superman to labor or is it easier for him to labour?

In this comic, anyway....</font>

Clem Snide
11-15-2002, 01:04 PM
Some Terry Gilliam art to accompany this Cleese script would be wonderful. Can't someone go a step further and get Gilliam to write a comics project? Most of his films have been very, very close to the perameters of comic books, and on the printed page he wouldn't have the budgetary constraints which often confound him.

Then get John Cale and David Byrne to write a series for Vertigo or the like (Cale got Dave McKean in to illustrate his autobiography; Byrne is author of an essay entitled 'Bizarro World').

Elayne Riggs
11-15-2002, 01:28 PM
[quote]Originally posted by borateen:
<strong>I'm looking forward to the confusion when everyone is renamed Bruce, and they all sing a song about a model of the Fortress of Solitude.</strong><hr></blockquote>

"This is Kandor
A piece of our homeland
You can stick it in a bottle
You can hold it in your hand"

- Elayne

OM
11-15-2002, 01:45 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Elayne Riggs:
<strong>"This is Kandor
A piece of our homeland
You can stick it in a bottle
You can hold it in your hand"</strong><hr></blockquote>

"Every Kandorian is sacred
Every Kandorian is great
If a Kandorian gets wasted
Clark gets quite irate."

...Egads! The Meaning of Life Part I being set at Project Cadmus? Or the last act featuring a female Death? Or the Specre? or the Black Racer?

"Wait...I didn't touch the Salmon Mousse!"

"You didn't?...Well...tough shit. You're going anyway!"

cannon
11-15-2002, 02:12 PM
I should hope there won't be any warmed over Python bits in the series. But I would really like to see some mention of the Beefeater.

That would be cool.

Jim Cannon

Hokeyboy
11-15-2002, 03:48 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Fetsur:
<strong>Don't mention Our Worlds At War!</strong><hr></blockquote>"Our Worlds At War?! You started it!"

"No we didn't!"

"Yes you did -- you invaded Apokolips!!"

"Now let's see, we have Prawns Darkseied, a cold Desaad salad..."

:)

This can only be the best comics news all year!

Craig H. Rettig
11-15-2002, 05:37 PM
At least we'll finally have a high-profile British writer that isn't Warren "Liberal Agenda" Ellis...

Tom Daylight
11-15-2002, 07:07 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Dennis Moore:
<strong>At least we'll finally have a high-profile British writer that isn't Warren "Liberal Agenda" Ellis...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nor Neil "Everything is wisty" Gaiman...

Nor Alan "Best writer ever" Moore...

Nor Grant "What is that man on?" Morrison...

And (seeing as you were non-specific) that's not even including the various British writers right at the top of other mediums (Joanne Rowling anyone?).

TTROY
11-15-2002, 08:25 PM
you know i would love to see a regular series done by Cleese in the style of the old JLI...
DC should really just put out feelers in all forms of media...and get new blood writers....
no more ellis ennis moore and gaiman get some really NEW writers... DC is the Company that usually has them first so it is about that time that we should be seeing the next wave

TRaik
11-17-2002, 01:39 PM
[quote]Originally posted by TTROY:
<strong>DC should really just put out feelers in all forms of media...and get new blood writers....</strong><hr></blockquote>

You mean like getting bona fide novelists like Brad Meltzer and Robert Rodi to do work for 'em? Or getting a cult favorite filmmaker to revive a venerable archer character?

DC doesn't seem particularly lacking in publishing work from creators best known for work in other media, but if you're looking for a time when such things are commonplace, then I don't particularly think that's gonna happen any time soon, especially given the relative payscales between comics and many other media...

danzo
11-18-2002, 12:16 AM
DC should get OM to write for them.
heh. #51, indeed.
The Larch.
heh.

Lestat de Lioncourt
11-20-2002, 02:38 PM
:bows to that OM guy:

show those guys why Cleese is funny!

btw Green Arrow was all Smiths idea from day one, DC had no wish at all to do anything with him. Read that Wizard back issue with his interview back in 1997, yknow the one with Romita Jrs Thor on the cover! It even had a synopsis of his Superman script on it. I found that on the net, damn good read, cant remember the bloody site it was on now, someone tell me!

OM
11-21-2002, 03:47 PM
...From Monty Python's Life of Clark:

[Scene: Morning in Metropolis. Clark Kent's apartment. Clark is getting up out of bed. He's totally naked. Lois is wrapped up in the sheets, but is obviously totally naked as well. The bed has also collapsed down thru the bedframe, obviously due to last night's lovemaking.]

[Scene: Clark yawns, scratches his head, then his butt. Lois shifts under the sheets and mumbles something]

[Scene: Clark walks to the window and opens the curtains to look outside, oblivious to the fact that he's stark naked]

12,000 inhabitants of Metropolis standing en masse below the window on Clinton St.: MORNIN' SUPERMAN!!!!

Clark: Aieeee!