Wolverine #50

[Romelacca]

Writer by Jeph Loeb
Pencils by Simone Bianchi
Inked & Washed Halftones by Simone Bianchi & Andrea Silvestri
Letters by Comicraft
Colors by Paul Mounts
Assistant Editor Michael O'Connor
Editor Axel Alonso
Grunts Joe Quesada
Growls Dan Buckley

Really that what it said.. Grunts and Growls!

Evolution Chapter One: FirstBlood

I opened up the first page of Wolverine #50 with its stunning artwork and then started flipping the pages and got a little worried. I don't really know what Wolverine has been smoking with him dreaming of cat people but I do trust and admire Jeph's writing. So with that in mind I am ready for the overhaul. I don't know why Wolverine decides to pick a fight with Sabertooth except because of their past. I felt that the fight between Wolverine and Sabertooth was a little forced. I know they have a history but I felt that it was in some ways cliché. The pace of the story had a nice cliffhanger at the end of the story.

Puny Little Man one shot

Pencils by Ed McGuiness
Writing by Jeph Loeb

I know seeing Wolvering and the Hulk fighting seemed to be doing the same thing over again but somehow this time it felt brand new. I own the actual Incredible Hulk issues where they first met but seeing Ed McGuiness artwork blew my mind away. It is just wonderful visuals. What else is there to say. Hulk and Wolvie have a huge beat down. It made the book worth buying. For those of you that like the Ultimate Wolverine and Hulk story there is a nice two page spread for you.

Rating overall: A

[leafinsectma]

For those of you that like the Ultimate Wolverine and Hulk story there is a nice two page spread for you.

Not as good as Leinil Yu's version but it was nice to see it in there (a bit of a surprise too). Its a bit weird to see Wolvie dreaming about the Ultimate U but it was a fun little story nonetheless.

[shady878]

Overall a good issue. Some weird things like the dreams he has as well as why he would pick a fight with Sabretooth all of a sudden. I enjoyed it! B -

[Ye Olde Iowa]

Wolverine # 50
“Evolution Part One: First Blood”
Written by Jeph Loeb
Penciled by Simone Bianchi
Inked & Washed Halftones by Simone Bianchi & Andrea Silvestri
Colored by Paul Mounts
Lettered by Comicraft
Cover by Simone Bianchi

Even though this is definitely a good issue, I find it really hard not to compare this to the amazing (but brief) Guggenheim-Ramos run on the title that recently concluded. It’s certainly not a fair comparison, as their “Vendetta” storyline was one of the best Wolverine arcs I’ve read in a long time. Sadly, though, I can’t help but look at this issue and feel that Loeb and Bianchi are starting off on the wrong foot.

This issue starts with Wolverine explaining a recent dream that he has been having, involving giant wolverine/cat-like creatures fighting giant saber tooth tiger-like creatures. He’s not sure if this is memory or fantasy and we get some pretty good insight on how hard it is for Wolverine to cope with having all of his memories back at once. Back in non-dreamland, Wolverine breaks into the Xavier Mansion, is a jerk to Rogue, and confronts Sabretooth. This, of course, leads to a violent scuffle, as Wolverine attempts to piece together exactly who Sabretooth is. We see a flashback to Wolverine’s days with Silver Fox, finding out that Sabretooth killed her (though, if I’m not mistaken, didn’t Daniel Way decided not too long ago that someone else did it?). Before the main story ends, Wolverine finds out that something Sabretooth said years ago translates to “I am what you will become.”

There are two things that I really like about Loeb’s writing in this issue. First, he is the first writer to my memory that has really described what it is like for Wolverine to deal with having all of his memories back. Way has touched upon this in the abysmal Origins series, but for the most part he just writes Wolverine like a remorseless killer lacking any sort of common sense as he goes on his kill-crazy rampage of revenge. The idea that Wolverine is now so flooded with information that he cannot tell dreams from memories is interesting and adds a lot of depth to the character. Kudos for that, Mr. Loeb. Secondly, I think that Loeb has a really good take on Sabretooth. Too often, Sabretooth is written as completely one-dimensional and that deflates the Wolverine-Sabretooth feud. Here Sabretooth treats Wolverine as his inferior, almost as though he were is older, bullying brother. He has a quick wit, but is ultimately just a huge jerk (the beer and Spice Channel bit was perfectly done). It’s nice to see the character be a bit more well-rounded and I think that will definitely help make this a pretty memorable arc.

Unfortunately, there are a few things that didn’t work for me here. More than anything else, I felt that the opening dream sequence was relatively useless and telegraphed the Wolverine-Sabretooth fight way too much. I’m sure it will have some significance later on, but right now it felt forced and didn’t fit in well with the rest of the story. Secondly, even though I loved to see the two characters beat the crap out of one another, there wasn’t nearly enough setup for Wolverine and Sabretooth fighting. Both are “claw first, ask questions later” type of guys, but we need more of a frame of reference here than “I don’t want you on the X-Men and we’ve hated each other forever, so let’s fight.” Finally, while I know that this is Wolverine’s solo title, I think there should have been more of a reaction from the X-Men than we got. We have no reason to believe that Wolverine wouldn’t have a key since he is on a functioning X-Squad and there really is no reason for Wolverine to be such an ass to Rogue. Yes, she did place Sabretooth on her team, but it seems a bit too cold for Wolverine to threaten her the way he did (especially given his long history of honoring women).

The real draw for this issue, however, is Bianchi’s art. I’ve been a huge fan of his black-and-white covers for some time, and after seeing sketches for this book at Wizard World Chicago, I was incredibly pumped. Sadly, I feel a bit let down here. Wolverine’s anatomy is incredible inconsistent. On some pages, he looks to be a stocky young child in a Wolverine costume, on others, he looks fine. The ear/eye flaps on his mask vary in size and shape throughout the book as well. Most of these problems, not surprisingly, are found in smaller panels. Meanwhile, when he uses large panels, splash pages, and spreads, the art is absolutely gorgeous. It’s clear that Bianchi’s art works better on a larger scale and I’m guessing this arc will be collected first in an oversized hardcover to show that even more. Also, while I’m usually not one to trash a colorist, this book is also definitely benefited by its availability in black-and-white. The color never quite matches up to the lighting that Bianchi and Silvestri set up, leading to some really awkward looking panels. Also, the color choices are just a tad too drab and really muddy up the art; this isn’t nearly as present on the cover, which utilizes a much brighter coloring style.

Overall, there is definitely some potential to this arc, as Loeb sets out to answer the mystery of Wolverine and Sabretooth’s connection. I’m not entirely sold yet and I’m missing Guggenheim and Ramos already, but I have faith that Loeb will pull it off.

Story: B There were some ups, but there were a few too many downs here. Loeb obviously has a lot of love for the characters and is definitely writing around Bianchi’s art style, but is almost doing so to a fault. There isn’t nearly enough meat to this story.
Art: B+ (B&W), B- (Color) Bianchi has the potential to be huge, but he is going to need a bigger canvas to do it. Either he needs to have longer arcs so he can work in bigger panels, or he needs to work oversized (think Alex Ross’s oversized books).
Cover: B This is a pretty neat design, though I’m not entirely sure I like how busy it is. I think that it would have been a lot better off if Bianchi focused more on the Wolverine-Sabretooth fight in the foreground than on the background elements.

“Puny Little Man”
Written by Jeph Loeb
Penciled by Ed McGuiness

This was fun little distraction that definitely helped ease my disappointment in the main story. This story retells Wolverine’s first appearance in an issue of The Incredible Hulk (#181, I believe) through the eyes of Wolverine. Loeb tells the story in a DVD-commentary style that lovingly mocks the original Wolverine design and dialogue. It’s humorous, but without being malicious and I dig it for that. McGuiness does a good job of fitting his style to have a retro look throughout most of the story and even does a pretty good job of aping Lenil Yu’s Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine for a spread. My only complaint on this otherwise great back-up is that the faux-“dot gain” in the coloring is too excessive at times. I think the colorist could have totally toned that down and still gotten his point across.

Story: A Loeb flexes his funny muscles here and it works. This is pure fun that outshines the main story.
Art: B+ Like I said, the dot-gain was a bit too distracting, but otherwise McGuiness does a great job adapting his art to several different styles here.

[C20Percent]

We see a flashback to Wolverine’s days with Silver Fox, finding out that Sabretooth killed her (though, if I’m not mistaken, didn’t Daniel Way decided not too long ago that someone else did it?).

Daniel Way is a piece of crap.

[HawkeyeX007]

My only complaint on this otherwise great back-up is that the faux-“dot gain” in the coloring is too excessive at times. I think the colorist could have totally toned that down and still gotten his point across.


I have another complaint regarding a glaring, continuity mistake: Once Wolverine wakes up from his dream in this back-up story, why does he say "what the hell was that uniform"? He must've forgotten that he wore his "ultimate" outfit in the regular Universe too during the Chuck Austen run I guess.....

[dalan]

I have another complaint regarding a glaring, continuity mistake: Once Wolverine wakes up from his dream in this back-up story, why does he say "what the hell was that uniform"? He must've forgotten that he wore his "ultimate" outfit in the regular Universe too during the Chuck Austen run I guess.....

The Austen run uniform was similar, but definitely not the same as the Ultimate uniform. I thought that end was pretty funny though. I'm currently reading some of Loeb's earlier work on Batman and I'm really beginning to appreciate him as a writer. This issue overall was kind of up and down for me, but the bright spots were bright enough to outshine the things I didn't like (the fight being a little forced, Wolverine kinda getting his ass kicked for most of the fight).

[Horhey]

I dont understand how a Wolverine/Sabretooth fight can be forced. One of the constants in the MU is that If Logan and Creed see eachother they will fight. This scrap is long overdew since Creed has been chillin in the X-Mansion for a few months. Surprised Logan has tolerated it for this long.

[JJ Fresh]

A decent issue, I wouldn't warrant it an "A" grade, but still worth a look. I am glad that we get two high quality art talents on this book in Bianchi and McGuinness. I swear though if Loeb reveals that Logan and Creed are derived from the Lupine I'm a burn this mutha down!

[tyrant156]

Wasn't Silver Fox revealed to be alive in Weapon X lies and video tapes and Sabretooth didn't really kill her but that is was a false memory set up in a studio...

[leafinsectma]

The Austen run uniform was similar, but definitely not the same as the Ultimate uniform.

I don't remember Austen's Wolvie but I'm looking at Morrison's New X-Men 145 and its very much identical to the Ultimate Wolvie uniform.

[Horhey]

Well, if you judge this issue for what it is which is a long and extremely brutal fight sequence then it should get an A rating becouse its a damn good one.

[RockerTodd]

I love the character Wolverine, but I thought that the art was really substandard. I don't know if Simone Bianchi needed more time to work with the character to make the artwork more consistant, or if it's an issue with the inker and colorist that is detracting from the overall visual. I hope they clean it up. The second story was much better drawn. I didn't even mind the "old school" coloring. I was disappointed with the major reveal (SPOILER) that Sabretooth is somehow Wolverine from his future. I was hoping that Sabretooth was Wolverine's child. Think about it! If Logan is as old has we know he is, shouldn't he have a bunch of little animals running around the world. They could have made him the source of all the feral heroes (and villians) in the Marvel Universe. It would also explain why Sabretooth has beaten Wolvie up so much. He's been holding back, out of a subconscious "father instinct". Wadda'ya think?

[Remy Howlett]

I love the character Wolverine, but I thought that the art was really substandard. I don't know if Simone Bianchi needed more time to work with the character to make the artwork more consistant, or if it's an issue with the inker and colorist that is detracting from the overall visual. I hope they clean it up. The second story was much better drawn. I didn't even mind the "old school" coloring. I was disappointed with the major reveal (SPOILER) that Sabretooth is somehow Wolverine from his future. I was hoping that Sabretooth was Wolverine's child. Think about it! If Logan is as old has we know he is, shouldn't he have a bunch of little animals running around the world. They could have made him the source of all the feral heroes (and villians) in the Marvel Universe. It would also explain why Sabretooth has beaten Wolvie up so much. He's been holding back, out of a subconscious "father instinct". Wadda'ya think?


I don't think it'll be as simple as Sabretooth being a future/alternate version of Wolverine. I don't know what was meant by THE QUOTE, but I think there's more to it than that. & Wolvie being Sabes' father doesn't really fit either. They've stated several times that Sabretooth is older than Wolverine. The issue itself was ok. The art, for me, was "ehhh". I got the black & white issue as well, & the pencils look good in it. I thought the colors looked good as well, but for some reason, the colors WITH the pencils were somehow off. I don't know how to explain it.

[AAB]

I always thought the character Sabertooth should have maintained a viscous malevolent eerie personality. He seemed eerie and nasty while he was in Mr. Sinister's troop during their Morlock massacre.

It is a poor decision something that enjoyed killing sprees on the Morelocks ends up suddenly given a more humane look and personality -Ugh! The 90's were such a joke. I realize that the X-Men had Magneto around but his personality had some consistency. Even the look of Sabertooth has drastically changed to a point where they could of just written a new character instead of the current one. His purpose involves the role as anti-thesis to Logan, and some clues as to maintaning the Logan character's forever hidden origin mystique. The current Sabertooth character has not consistently fulfilled much of that while he rots the motivating factor of keeping faithful Marvel fans (Not necessarily Marvel drones/zombies): Which is re-using/reinvesting our $3.5 dollars per issue of story content/history.

Seeing Sabertooth work on the X-Men team at any point in time is like seeing Gandhi a member of the Nazi party. That is basically the type poor decision making out of the late 80's and the 90's that show how the management completly disregard any type of continuty, even in a characters personality, or on what made Marvel cool. I hope Marvel is cleaning up the constistency of their character-based assets with their apparent 'shaking up' of things and writing an 'edginess' to the character interactions post Civil War. The character Sabertooth should not only return and stay at his evil roots, but write X-Men as being a bit more consious of what they are doing, especially taking on a psychopath. -Its not like we see Creed display any type of regret on his past or try to practice a form of disipline (like Logan), and Magneto is a 'civilized' 'sophisticated' villan who the X-Men did not take seriously or fully trusted when he was running the mansion -at least that displayed some consistency for a Magneto living in the X-Men school scenario. Whedon even recently made some connections with the White Queen's dark past with his current run on Astonishing X-Men.

[Shinkuu]

I don't know why Wolverine decides to pick a fight with Sabertooth except because of their past. I felt that the fight between Wolverine and Sabertooth was a little forced. I know they have a history but I felt that it was in some ways cliché.
Some weird things like the dreams he has as well as why he would pick a fight with Sabretooth all of a sudden.Secondly, even though I loved to see the two characters beat the crap out of one another, there wasn’t nearly enough setup for Wolverine and Sabretooth fighting. Both are “claw first, ask questions later” type of guys, but we need more of a frame of reference here than “I don’t want you on the X-Men and we’ve hated each other forever, so let’s fight.” This issue overall was kind of up and down for me, but the bright spots were bright enough to outshine the things I didn't like (the fight being a little forced.Are you guys serious? They HATE each other. Wolverine hates Sabretooth like he hates nothing else on this planet. Wolverine not jumping Creed is like a mob of concentration camp survivors allowing Adolf Hitler to chill out in their living room. Would that ever happen? No the mob would tear him limb from limb. I dont understand what needs to be explained about this. It's fairly straight forward unless you've never read a Wolverine comic before. In Wolverine's mind Sabretooth is evil personified. If the physical personification of evil was sittin in your lazy boy watching your tv and drinking your beer what the hell would you do?!? His actions were completely in character and totally understandable. There is nothing "forced" about this fight. You dont need a reason for Wolverine to try to kill Sabretooth. Sabretooth being there is obviously reason enough.
Even though this is definitely a good issue, I find it really hard not to compare this to the amazing (but brief) Guggenheim-Ramos run on the title that recently concluded. It’s certainly not a fair comparison, as their “Vendetta” storyline was one of the best Wolverine arcs I’ve read in a long time.Too true.
This issue starts with Wolverine explaining a recent dream that he has been having, involving giant wolverine/cat-like creatures fighting giant saber tooth tiger-like creatures.I'm pretty sure it was a pack of the Lupine/Wolverine creatures fighting 1 large normal sabretooth tiger.
Way has touched upon this in the abysmal Origins series, but for the most part he just writes Wolverine like a remorseless killer lacking any sort of common sense as he goes on his kill-crazy rampage of revenge.Uh I'm pretty sure Wolverine isn't really killing anyone in Origins. He roughed up an undercover agent, was going to kill Nuke (only to put him out of his misery), was only going to kill Cap because he went berserk, ditto for the X-Men, he killed mercenaries working for Omega Red who were shooting at him, and that's it. The only other kills he's had in the series he was brainwashed and the other he was getting paybck for being tortured. He's not particularly blood thirsty in that series.
Finally, while I know that this is Wolverine’s solo title, I think there should have been more of a reaction from the X-Men than we got. We have no reason to believe that Wolverine wouldn’t have a key since he is on a functioning X-Squad and there really is no reason for Wolverine to be such an ass to Rogue. Yes, she did place Sabretooth on her team, but it seems a bit too cold for Wolverine to threaten her the way he did (especially given his long history of honoring women).
1) Actually I thought Wolverine's comments to Rogue perfectly explained why there was no X-Men interference. He was basically letting her know that if any X-Man got between him and Creed he'd take them down. That was pretty much his reaction the first time Creed was in the mansion.
2) Maybe Rogue was the only team member there.
3) Wolverine and Rogue are very good friends, but their friendship isn't a drop in the bucket compared to his hatred of Creed. There are no 2 ways about it. Rogue should know better than to try to stop Wolverine from confronting Creed. She already knows from personal experience Wolverine will do anything to get to Creed. She watched him dive off a cliff after him and had to pull him out of the water.
4) Wolverine and Creed are pretty fast guys. Them fighting for 5 rounds is like 10 seconds to the rest of us.
I dont understand how a Wolverine/Sabretooth fight can be forced. One of the constants in the MU is that If Logan and Creed see each other they will fight. This scrap is long overdew since Creed has been chillin in the X-Mansion for a few months. Surprised Logan has tolerated it for this long.Thank god somebody else gets it.
Wasn't Silver Fox revealed to be alive in Weapon X lies and video tapes and Sabretooth didn't really kill her but that is was a false memory set up in a studio...Yeah funny how both Way and Loeb like to ignore that little bit of history.
I was disappointed with the major reveal (SPOILER) that Sabretooth is somehow Wolverine from his future.That's most likely not what Sabretooth was implying in this issue. He's implying that somewhere along the line Wolverine will become more like Creed: faster, stronger, more animalistic, and he will embrace the desire to kill. At least that's what I got out of it.
I was hoping that Sabretooth was Wolverine's child.Wolverine # 42 (first ongoing) from YEARS ago confirmed that these two do not have any sort of father/son relationship. Their blood was analysed by SHIELD experts. I really hope you haven't been holding out all these years for that. Likewise it also proves that your theory above about Sabretooth being Wolvy from the future is impossible. Their blood is too different.
It would also explain why Sabretooth has beaten Wolvie up so much. He's been holding back, out of a subconscious "father instinct". Wadda'ya think? That wouldn't make any sense at all. Wolverine has won most of their fights.

[BlakSun]

I thought the Loeb story was horrible.

Wolverine. Is. Canadian.

So why would he be talking like that?

[SargentRock]

This issue was okay, but I couldn't get past the "ultimate hulk..." reference and Wolverine wondering if he'd dreamed it, since I'm starting to wonder that about that title myself...:D

[Liliaeth]

I dont understand how a Wolverine/Sabretooth fight can be forced. One of the constants in the MU is that If Logan and Creed see eachother they will fight. This scrap is long overdew since Creed has been chillin in the X-Mansion for a few months. Surprised Logan has tolerated it for this long.


Well he has been busy hunting Nitro.

[smrtbob]

so sabertooth is wolverine from the future? or is this like that ancient race of angels, devils, lobo, lupin crap from uncanny and exiles?

[Bijan S]

This issue was okay, but I couldn't get past the "ultimate hulk..." reference and Wolverine wondering if he'd dreamed it, since I'm starting to wonder that about that title myself...:D
The whole "I hate Canada" and "Things Canucks tell me to say" lines were kinda stupid.

[hawkrules]

Maybe the reference to the Ultimate Hulk/ Wolverine battle was meant for us to think that the Ultimate mini-series was just a dream, since it seems that we will never see the next issue...

[BlakSun]

The whole "I hate Canada" and "Things Canucks tell me to say" lines were kinda stupid.


It's like Loeb doesn't know Logan is Canadian. :confused:

[Horhey]

There was a huge revolation in this issue about wether or not Logan and Creed are related. Wolverine through cold water all over the tired Dog/Sabretooth theorie. Surprised so many people didnt catch it.

[tumfp]

I felt that Sabretooth getting on Wolverine's case about becoming him was more along the lines of what Rucka was doing when the series first started and wolverine was going through the whole "I'm not an animal" dilemma. I really liked it too cause Rucka's run killed it. His run is what got me into the Marvel U.

[blackcatgreg]

Not a bad issue. Considering I usually am not a fan of Loeb's writing, this one impressed me. An A may be a little high, I'd say a B+, but overall not bad. The only thing I'm concerned with is the Sabretooth "You're me" stuff. I swear to god, if Sabretooth's a clone or time traveller future self or some such nonsense, I'll lose it. Bianchi's art is sweet, though, and worth every penny. Especially the gorgeous black & white variant.

[beto]

I don't see how people can like the art. Wolverine's mask is all ____ed up and exaggerated and why do artists continue to use Sabretooth's costume from the movie? Plus look at the cover for another stupid mistake, since when does Sabretooth and Wolverine shop at the same footlocker for "sneakers"? Last time I checked Wolverine wore his classic boots not some pair of New Balance jogging shoes.

[Heffaloo]

I always thought the character Sabertooth should have maintained a viscous malevolent eerie personality. He seemed eerie and nasty while he was in Mr. Sinister's troop during their Morlock massacre.

It is a poor decision something that enjoyed killing sprees on the Morelocks ends up suddenly given a more humane look and personality -Ugh! The 90's were such a joke. I realize that the X-Men had Magneto around but his personality had some consistency. Even the look of Sabertooth has drastically changed to a point where they could of just written a new character instead of the current one.

You are aware of the beginnings of the character, right? Sabertooth was originally an Iron Fist villain. Once Power Man & Iron Fist was gone, they moved him over to Spider-Man, where he was thoroughly beaten by Black Cat. I don't just mean that she won the fight. I mean that she reduced him to a bloody pulp that had to be carted away in an ambulace. Street cops with years of experience shuddered and grew nauseous when looking at him. Later, he was used with the Marauders, and a history of enmity with Wolverine was retconned into him. Another year-or-so later, they decided that he had a healing factor, too.

My point, of course, is that the Sabertooth you love and miss is just as much of a reconstruction from the original as the current version is a change from the version you prefer. Don't worry. Everything will cycle back around again. It always does.

[shady878]

I don't see how people can like the art. Wolverine's mask is all ____ed up and exaggerated and why do artists continue to use Sabretooth's costume from the movie? Plus look at the cover for another stupid mistake, since when does Sabretooth and Wolverine shop at the same footlocker for "sneakers"? Last time I checked Wolverine wore his classic boots not some pair of New Balance jogging shoes.

I wasnt soo keen on the art either and the covers to the upcoming issues dont look too good either. The only thing that really interests me is how loeb is going to explain logan and creeds relationship with each other...it looks like it might deliver unlike some other crappy wolverine title *cough*wolverine:origins<crap>*cough*...did you hear something?

[Shinkuu]

The only thing I'm concerned with is the Sabretooth "You're me" stuff. I swear to god, if Sabretooth's a clone or time traveller future self or some such nonsense, I'll lose it.We already know Sabretooth isn't his clone or directly related to him. Heck he even says it in this very issue. Shield's blood tests proved this a long time ago so stop agonizing over it. It's not going to happen unless they decide to ignore established continuity AGAIN. Creed's words are obviously more along the lines of Logan becoming more like Creed physically and mentally, thus becoming what Creed is. It seems to be a reference back to the fact that both Logan and Creed have a feral regression factor. He's not a clone.
Plus look at the cover for another stupid mistake, since when does Sabretooth and Wolverine shop at the same footlocker for "sneakers"? Last time I checked Wolverine wore his classic boots not some pair of New Balance jogging shoes.It's not a mistake, just a new artist's personal representation of the footwear. So technically it can't be a mistake. If it was Wolverine's current "bladed" adamantium claws are a mistake considering they used to be depicted as just massive knitting needles. And Wolverine's boots SHOULD have some sort of tread. I'm tired of artists drawing the X-Men's boots as flat soled. Try fighting is that. Sabretooth on the other hand shouldn't wear footwear IMO. He's got talons for toenails and should fight barefoot. Although at the time he was chilling watchin TV, so who knows.

[krort6462]

I get my comics a little late, on a once a month basis, so I just finished the first part of the story. Good story. My one complaint: I didn't see the "to be continued" line at the end of the last Loeb/Bianchi story. So I turn the page...double page advertisement, and I think there's another page of advertisement and then the dot printing for the second story. The transition between the stories was really weird. I'm not commenting on the second story because I haven't finished it yet, but I'm just saying it threw me for a loop with the completely different art and the completely different story. I think if I'm paying $4 (two months in a row now), especially for No. 50 with all the buildup, that more should have been revealed and the second story could have been saved for the upcoming Marvel Comics Presents or something. Just my opinion. I feel pretty ripped off that the first story didn't encompass the entirety of the pages. The first story is what I bought the book for in the first place.
C

[Horhey]

I get my comics a little late, on a once a month basis, so I just finished the first part of the story. Good story. My one complaint: I didn't see the "to be continued" line at the end of the last Loeb/Bianchi story. So I turn the page...double page advertisement, and I think there's another page of advertisement and then the dot printing for the second story. The transition between the stories was really weird. I'm not commenting on the second story because I haven't finished it yet, but I'm just saying it threw me for a loop with the completely different art and the completely different story. I think if I'm paying $4 (two months in a row now), especially for No. 50 with all the buildup, that more should have been revealed and the second story could have been saved for the upcoming Marvel Comics Presents or something. Just my opinion. I feel pretty ripped off that the first story didn't encompass the entirety of the pages. The first story is what I bought the book for in the first place.
C

Your disapointed the first issue of the arc didnt reveal anything and becouse it doesnt say "To be continued"? Man, your right bro. This issue just made me relize how much I enjoy reading the words "To be continued".

[krort6462]

No. I'm disappointed that I spent $4 on a comic book that I don't feel was worth $4. I'm just saying there was a lot of buildup for this issue and I was disappointed with what I got. Just my personal opinion. Don't get me wrong; I'm sure it will get better. This issue, though, wasn't great by any stretch of MY imagination.
C

[Horhey]

No. I'm disappointed that I spent $4 on a comic book that I don't feel was worth $4. I'm just saying there was a lot of buildup for this issue and I was disappointed with what I got. Just my personal opinion. Don't get me wrong; I'm sure it will get better. This issue, though, wasn't great by any stretch of MY imagination.
C

Yea, your right. Not much on content, (still gave us clues) but thats becouse thats not what it is. Its an "action issue". An entire issue of fighting. Wolverine comics get them from time to time.

[WildKard]

I really enjoyed this issue. I didn't know what to expect form Loeb but it's really got me stoked so far. I think the Lupine connection would be really cool. It would explain why Wolive and Saber have always has such animosity against each other, besides the obvious that Creed's a prick, this makes it a genetic hate. It would also explain Wolverine's Hair ;)

[poetdowns]

I have to order by mail, and i was taken in by "the ultimate fight" hype. I wouldn't have bought it if i'd had a chance to see it first. I mean,
Wolvie and Sabe fight each other -yet again (again and again and again) (and again)
Didn't we already try Sabertooth joining the X-men, right before Onslaught?? He's an unrepentent sociopath, why is he getting another tryout? And i seem to recall him confiding to Logan that he was going to kill every X-person Logan was close to; so Logan put a claw thru his brain. Which didn't kill him yet he's going to use the same failed tactic (ending page).

And i'm sorry but Marvel's taken this whole "healing factor" into absurdity. You can't "heal" if you have no way for blood to pump thru your body -you tear out his heart, he's done. The way Marvel writes Logan, he's not a mutant he's a Terminator.

I don't understand the Silver Fox part 'cause back in the first Wolverine book, those memories were only partly real and she showed up in the end as a bad guy. Are we rewriting this, or ignoring this or what -i just want to know.


Vale,
Poet

[Disturbed_1]

Overall, I found the issue to be okay...but that McGuiness double-page splash of the Hulk tearing Wolverine in half (from the backup story) was what really influenced me to buy it. I mean, it's the closest thing we'll get to seeing Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk all year. Heh.

[Horhey]

I have to order by mail, and i was taken in by "the ultimate fight" hype. I wouldn't have bought it if i'd had a chance to see it first. I mean,
Wolvie and Sabe fight each other -yet again (again and again and again) (and again)
Didn't we already try Sabertooth joining the X-men, right before Onslaught?? He's an unrepentent sociopath, why is he getting another tryout? And i seem to recall him confiding to Logan that he was going to kill every X-person Logan was close to; so Logan put a claw thru his brain. Which didn't kill him yet he's going to use the same failed tactic (ending page).

And i'm sorry but Marvel's taken this whole "healing factor" into absurdity. You can't "heal" if you have no way for blood to pump thru your body -you tear out his heart, he's done. The way Marvel writes Logan, he's not a mutant he's a Terminator.

I don't understand the Silver Fox part 'cause back in the first Wolverine book, those memories were only partly real and she showed up in the end as a bad guy. Are we rewriting this, or ignoring this or what -i just want to know.


Vale,
Poet

Deadpool and Hulk could regenerate if their heart was torn out as well.

[smrtbob]

wouldn't the healing factor be inbedded in his x chromosone in his dna/rna? and so wouldn't he rebuild on a cellular level? until he was considered whole by his esscence/aura/soul/astral self.... I remember his hair growing fast and tattoo's fading quckly(unless that was ult xmen, he said it helped him get laid) and it always bugged me when sabertooth had tattoos, cause I figured he'd have to get it done all the time.

[Shinkuu]

so Logan put a claw thru his brain. Which didn't kill him yet he's going to use the same failed tactic (ending page).Considering punching a claw through Creed's brain turned him into a defenseless retarded kitten for an extended period of time it's probably the fastest way to inflict big damage in this case. May not kill him, but hey it puts him down for a while.
And i'm sorry but Marvel's taken this whole "healing factor" into absurdity. You can't "heal" if you have no way for blood to pump thru your body -you tear out his heart, he's done. The way Marvel writes Logan, he's not a mutant he's a Terminator.Honestly, where have you been? Super powers are absurd in general. Wolverine's healing ability certainly isn't any more absurd than Superman knocking planets around the solar system. And not being able to pump blood doesn't mean much when your heart can regenerate itself completely in under a minute. Not even really a massive feat there.