Top 10 Non-Big 2 Title of ALL TIME

[Zakuraba]

I'm original, I know. This time, Vertigo and Wildstorm don't count. Well, unless you want to make a list for one without them, and one with them. Carry on.

Non Vertigo/Wildstorm

1. The Walking Dead(Image)
2. The Surrogates(Top Shelf)
3. Invincible(Image)
4. Hellboy(Dark Horse)
5. Sin City(Dark Horse)
6. Cla$$War(com.X)
7. The Marquis(Oni)
8. BPRD(Dark Horse)
9. Strange Girl(Image)
10. Atomika: God is Red(Mercury)

With Vertigo/Wildstorm

1. Planetary(Wildstorm)
2. The Walking Dead(Image)
3. The Surrogates(Top Shelf)
4. Sandman(Vertigo)
5. Invincible(Image)
6. Hellboy(Dark Horse)
7. Sin City(Dark Horse)
8. Fables(Vertigo)
9. WildC.A.T.s(Wildstorm: Moore's run)
10. DV8(Wildstorm)

[theblindparrot]

This is a retarded list. I don't care if you like or agree with it, but Cerebus, for no reason, should be left out of that list.

[violentmarv]

Hate
Eightball
Love and Rockets
Usagi Yojimbo
Sin City
Frank
the Goon
Lone Wolf and Cub
Optic Nerve
Groo the Wanderer

If your collection is missing any of these than go to your LCS or get on Amazon or Buy.com right now!!!!!!!!!!!

[amlah6]

This is a retarded list. I don't care if you like or agree with it, but Cerebus, for no reason, should be left out of that list.

It's a list based on opinion. Having not read Cerebus, I wouldn't include it on my list either. That doesn't mean Cerebus isn't great, it just means that I haven't gotten around to it yet.

[Alexander Knox]

Walking Dead
Astro City
Madman/ Atomics
Vampirella (shut up, you like it too)
The Spirit
Simpsons/ Futurama
Dork/ Milk and Cheese
The Tick
Supreme

and Number One with a bullet....Uncle Muthaf*#kin Scrooge

[eltopo]

This is a retarded list. I don't care if you like or agree with it, but Cerebus, for no reason, should be left out of that list.

qouted for turth

[violentmarv]

Oh I forgot Madman. I wish Allred would take time from his book of Mormon schedule to make some more Madman comics. He was bringing up so many questions that may never be answered at this rate.

[amlah6]

Not including Wildstorm/Vertigo/ICON

1. Poison Elves
2. Bone
3. Stray Bullets
4. Strangers in Paradise
5. Sin City
6. Johnny the Homicidal Maniac
7. Hate
8. Madman
9. Leave it to Chance
10. Red Rocket 7

[eltopo]

1.Cerberus
2.Sin City
3.Sray Bullets
4.20th century 8 ball
5.Akira
6.Optic nerve
7.Hellboy
8.Lone wolf and cub
9.Sandamn
10.Preacher

[Zakuraba]

OBVIOUSLY, this is a thread based on opinion. Perhaps I neglected to explicitly note that this is by no means some definitive or absolute list, but that it was one to find out people's particular favorites amongst a veritable sea of great titles.

Why in the world would I add Cerebus to my list, if I have never read it. Also, if I had read it, by what standard or law do I HAVE to add it to my list? This is a list on PERSONAL OPINION, let me stress that.

[jza1218]

Bone
Stray Bullets
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Archie Comics (as a whole)
Strangers in Paradise
Leave it to Chance
Teenagers From Mars
Scott Pilgrim
Madman
Sin City

[The_Adventurer]

My personal Top 10, with no Wildstorm/Vertigo eh?

I'm being down... And only including titles currently being published (or at the very least have been published in the last year, so I won't hit you with the awesome that is Negation and Route 666, etc...)


1. 2000 AD (Rebellion)
2. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Mirage)
3. Jack Staff (Image)
4. Invincible (Image)
5. Savage Dragon (Image)
6. Thieves & Kings (iBox Publishing (www.iboxpublishing.com))
7. Twilight X (Antarctic Press)
8. The Surrogates (Top Shelf)
9. Jeremiah Harm (Boom! Studios)
10. The Walking Dead (Image)

[innocentboy]

off the top of my head with no thought behind it:

- Luna Brothers: Girls
- Elephant Men (Image)
- Sholin Cowboy (Burly Men)
- Powers (borderline Indy/Marvel-Icon)
- Kabuki (borderline Indy/Marvel-Icon)
- 100 Bullets (borderline Indy/DC-Vertigo)
- Hellboy (Darkhorse)
- is that 10 yet? .... close enough i guess
- also wanna big up Song of Songs the Comic Book my own little project @ http://www.songofsongsthecomicbook.com (see sig)

will see if i can bring the other 2/10 later ... kinda short on time right now

[Duckula]

- also wanna big up Song of Songs the Comic Book my own little project @ http://www.songofsongsthecomicbook.com (see sig)


Very subtle.


Heil Satan,

Duckula

[nietoperz]

Not including Vertigo / Wildstorm:

Grimjack
American Flagg!
Zot!
Tales of the Beanworld
Mage
Whisper
Nexus
Concrete
Jon Sable: Freelance
Elementals
Fish Police

[Alexander Knox]

Not including Vertigo / Wildstorm:

Grimjack
American Flagg!
Zot!
Tales of the Beanworld
Mage
Whisper
Nexus
Concrete
Jon Sable: Freelance
Elementals
Fish Police


I've gotten a huge chunk of Nexus issues out of cheap bins because I like the art. I've never actually read the book though.
I've also recently picked up issues of Zot, Concrete, Critters, TMNT (Mirage), and Elvira (Claypool) that I have yet to read. A lot of indie books are turning up in the 3-for-a-quarter boxes lately.

[nietoperz]

Zot is (IMO) one of the best superhero books ever put out. As for Nexus, Mike Baron's dialogue can be an acquired taste, but the premise is genius and Steve Rude's art is just beautiful.

[I am MODOK]

Hellboy
BPRD
Conan
Firearm
Nocturnals
Walking Dead
Invincible
Grimjack
Madman
Mage

There were a bunch of other minis and such I loved, but I'm not going to count them in the top 10. (Heretic, Shockrockets, Superstar, Section Zero, Power & Glory, etc.)

[Neuromancer]

Not including Vertigo / Wildstorm:

Grimjack
American Flagg!
Zot!
Tales of the Beanworld
Mage
Whisper
Nexus
Concrete
Jon Sable: Freelance
Elementals
Fish Police

Amen to all those First titles. I'm reading the GrimJack TPBs and can't believe how badly I missed that book. I think I am going to include Hellboy, Mike Allred's indie work, and Usagi Yojimbo in here also, though, along with my current Image favorites. I would have included Grendel, too, but all the stories set in the future bogged it down for me.

[gorilla_buoy]

Including Wildstorm, no particular order (except Witchblade as #1)

Witchblade
Painkiller Jane
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turltes (and all spin-off books)
The Walking Dead
Army of Darkness
Cyberforce
WildCats
The Darkness
Tomb Raider
Danger Girl
The Magdalena/ Aphrodite IX (Tie)

I love my cheesecake :p

[BClayMoore]

1. Captain Marvel Comics
2. Archie
3. Wow Comics
4. Tales from the Crypt
5. Shock Suspenstories
6. The Spirit
7. T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents
8. Zap Comix
9. The Vault of Horror
10. Hawaiian Dick

-BCM

http://www.hawaiiandick.com/civildick.jpg

[stiltman6969]

not mentioned comics:

1. From Hell
2. Bacchus
3. White Lama
4. Tin Tin

[Zechs]

1.) Lone Wolf and Cub
2.) Archie Comics
3.) Spawn
4.) Hellboy
5.) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
6.) Bone
7.) Savage Dragon
8.) Usagi Yojimbo
9.) The Walking Dead
10.) Strangers in Paradise

Tried to laying off Vertigo, Wildstorm, and anything DC or Marvel owned through a sub division. I tried to be as fair as possible, but it so darn hard. I wanted so much to include a Valient book or Grendal, but ran out of darn room before I could. Nuts :(

[nietoperz]

I would have included Grendel, too, but all the stories set in the future bogged it down for me.

Yeah, amen to that. The Christine Spar arc and the two or three that came afterwards were wonderful though, but it missed my cut for that exact same reason...

[Steve Rogers]

Madman/Atomics
Stray Bullets
Sin City
Hellboy
Love and Rockets
Eightball
Harbinger
Usagi Yojimbo
T.M.N.T
T.H.B.

[Evil Twin]

Non-Big 2 (in no order)

Two-Fisted Tales
The Spirit
Lone Wolf and Cub
Uncle Scrooge
Maus
Captain Marvel Adventures
American Flagg!
Cerebus
From Hell
Sin City

Honorable Mention: Nexus, Concrete, the works of Robert Crumb, Black Hole, Love and Rockets, American Splendor

[Lucky Luke]

When you say of all time, do you mean just the US, or the world?

[Reliant]

I could probably name quite a few manga titles for my list, but to keep it brief:

1. Negation (CrossGen)
2. Lady Death (Chaos!--the original)
3. Ghost (Dark Horse)
4. Gold Digger (Antarctic Press)
5. Liberty Meadows (Image)

[nietoperz]

When you say of all time, do you mean just the US, or the world?

I kept my list US only, otherwise we would have had:

Asterix
Tintin
Lucky Luke
Blueberry

and possibly one or two 2000AD strips vying for contention as well...

[Lucky Luke]

I kept my list US only, otherwise we would have had:

Asterix
Tintin
Lucky Luke
Blueberry

and possibly one or two 2000AD strips vying for contention as well...
Oh, by world I'd add much much much more than what you just listed. ;)

[nietoperz]

Oh, by world I'd add much much much more than what you just listed. ;)

Perhaps, but I love American comics best. :)

[Lucky Luke]

Perhaps, but I love American comics best. :)
It's not that I don't like American comics, it's just that many titles don't get the spotlight they deserve. For me, european and japanese comics will always be better until the Americans get the perception of the medium/art right.

[Neuromancer]

You know, it's funny: looking at Clay's list, you could have easily put older publishers there, but I don't think that's a comment on how young or shortsighted N'rama readers are. I think that's more because when you think "non-Big Two," you think relatively recent indie publishers. American publishers, natch, because otherwise I'd've had to have added Tintin and Asterix, among others, like Nieto did. I also realized I could've added Eclipse's Scout and Airboy (Clay's memory jog made me think of Hillman Publishing), because I love Tim Truman's work in general, but these just weren't so spiffy for me in hindsight outside of the art.

[jza1218]

I just don't like that many older titles besides Archie.

[adamcasey]

All time in no order:

Invincible
Goon
Cerebus
Astro Boy
Dreadstar
American Flagg
Whisper
Queen & Country
Maxx
Savage Dragon

[violentmarv]

So, is Astro Boy worth a shot?

[Lucky Luke]

So, is Astro Boy worth a shot?
Definitely. Just like anything from Osamu Tezuka. You can't miss with him.

[SouthtownKid]

1. Will Eisner's The Spirit
2. Hernandez Bros.' Love & Rockets
3. Hugo Pratt's Corto Maltese
4. Richard Corben's Den

#5-#10 in no particular order:
Baron & Reinhold's Badger
Baron & Rude's (and various) Nexus
Paul Pope's THB
Bryan Talbot's the Adventures of Luther Arkwright
Ostrander, Truman, Mandrake, and Henry's (and Pugh's) Grimjack
Daniel Clowes' Eightball

Ooof, Richard Sala's Evil Eye needs to be on there... What can I replace...?
Don Simpson's Megaton Man and Border Worlds should be on there, as well.
And Michael T. Gilbert's Mr. Monster.

I don't think I can limit myself to 10.

It's a good thing this doesn't include comic strips, otherwise O'Donnell and Holdaway's (along with Colvin, Burns and Romero's) Modesty Blaise would NEED to be on there...in the top 5, definitely.

And I didn't include any Japanese books, otherwise there's no way I could come in under 100. Maybe if someone starts a " Top 150 Non-Big 2 Title of ALL TIME" thread. Otherwise, I better not get started.

Holy cow, I realized I forgot Carl Barks' Uncle Scrooge.
This is impossible.

[theblindparrot]

OBVIOUSLY, this is a thread based on opinion. Perhaps I neglected to explicitly note that this is by no means some definitive or absolute list, but that it was one to find out people's particular favorites amongst a veritable sea of great titles.

Why in the world would I add Cerebus to my list, if I have never read it. Also, if I had read it, by what standard or law do I HAVE to add it to my list? This is a list on PERSONAL OPINION, let me stress that.
I thought you were making a list of the graetest indie titles of all time. If that was the case, despite the fact that you haven't read it, Cerebus being such a giant in the world of indie and even mainstream comics would need to be on that list, and hell, it's probably the best comic ever.

[Duckula]

Tales From the Crypt
The Vault of Horror
The Haunt of Fear

[Groovie Mann]

bone
little white mouse
strangers in paradise
sin city
johnny the homicidial maniac
street angel
teenagers from mars


yeah... i don't buy too many indy stuff but i do love my vertigo.

[innocentboy]

Very subtle.


Heil Satan,

Duckula
as subtle as a silent-B, B

Heil Darkwing, da original creature that flaps in the night.

innocentboy

[mrorangesoda]

My Favorite 10

1. Bone
2. Concrete
3. TMNT
4. Sin City
5. Hellboy
6. Uncle Scrooge (and the old Donald Ducks)
7. Invincible
8. Strange Girl
9. Fear Agent
10. Archie (I'm glad Zechs mentioned this, cause I probably would have forgotten it as it is outside the comics and "comixs" I typically think about, but a lot of fun)

[Eli Renfro]

1. Concrete (that one's easy)
2. Cerebus
3. American Flagg!
4. The Maxx
5. Scout
6. Hellboy
7. Flaming Carrot
8. Usagi Yojimbo
9. Conan (current Dark Horse series)
10. Magnus Robot Fighter

I'd like to include Heavy Metal, but being an anthology with large fluctuations in quality I guess it doesn't really fit.

[Duckula]

as subtle as a silent-B, B

Heil Darkwing, da original creature that flaps in the night.

innocentboy

Nicely done. Where can we find your comic?

[Alexander Knox]

6. Uncle Scrooge (and the old Donald Ducks)
)


Yeah, can't forget the longer Donald Duck adventure stories, and those great gag strips that ran in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories.

I friggin love those Duck books. The rest of the Disney comics are pretty lame, but the Ducks are gold.

[genetic freak]

My American non Vertigo/Wildstorm list

Eightball
Miracle Man
Skeeber Bee Bye (GN)
ZEBEDIAH THE HILLBILLY ZOMBIE REDNECK BITES THE DUST ( A one shot)
FROM HELL
Seamonsters and Superheroes
Black Hole
Fred The Clown
How Loathsome
Flight (anthology)

[genetic freak]

International:

Uzumaki
Peter Pan (Regis Loisel) only read two volumes translated by Thundra back in the day
Nausicaa
Gegege No Kitaro
Foligatto
Prosopopus
Hunter X Hunter
Epileptic
Ranma 1/2
Tintin

[innocentboy]

Nicely done. Where can we find your comic?
heh ... was gonna use the "funny ... quack me up" joke, but that would be pushing it, i know. :)

but Where can we find Song of Songs the Comic Book?

Why, thank you for asking Duckula!

check my sig, my webbed sights ("webbed" as in world wide web, and not "webbed feet"), or this thread here --> http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=2585652#post2585652

non-Toronto people, can also try emailing some of the shops there and ask them about ordering it from them, perhaps along with some hard to find back issues. i can't speak on behalf of the shops there, but wouldn't hurt to ask i guess. :D

[milleniumman]

I guess I only would give merit to 7 that I've read so far:


1. TMNT
2. Invincible
3. Usagi Yojimbo
4. Sin City
5. Y the Last Man
6. The Walking Dead
7. Local - I know its only new and its a mini series and its not finished yet. But i love it.

[CowShark]

In alphabetical order:

Akira
American Flagg!
Bone
Grimjack
Lone Wolf and Cub
Miracleman
Nexus
Sin City
The Spirit
Strangers in Paradise

Honorable Mention:
Badger
Captain Victory and the Galatic Rangers
Cerebus
Dreadstar
E-Man
Eagle
Groo the Wanderer
Jon Sable: Freelance

[jasonbradley]

In no particular order

1. Xenezoic Tales
2. The Rocketeer (not really a monthly but too good to leave out)
3. 30 days of night
4. Madman/Atomics
5. Sin City
6. Blade of the Immortal
7. Invincible
8. Walking Dead
9. Grimjack
10. The Spirit (kitchen sink)

[Kid Q]

10. Chester Brown's Yummy Fur
9. American Flag!
8. Alan Moore's Supreme
7. Love and Rockets
6. Ironwood
5. Walking Dead
4. Mouse Guard
3. Miracleman
2. Blackhole
1. Elementals

[Colonsus]

Here we go...

1. Madman
2. Bone
3. Love and Rockets
4. Stray Bullets
5. Strangers in Paradise
6. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
7. Cerebus
8. Sin City
9. Blade of the Immortal
10. Milk and Cheese

I'd also have to put Hellboy and Surrogates (only a mini, but freaking AWESOME!) up there. And Maus, of course, is in a category all its own.

[exultant801]

Yeah, amen to that. The Christine Spar arc and the two or three that came afterwards were wonderful though, but it missed my cut for that exact same reason...

you guys are nuts! warchild was gold and devils and deaths might be the greatest comic story of all time!

[Action Ace]

My favorites among the very small number of them I've read...

1. Kurt Busiek's Astro City
2. Captain Marvel (Fawcett)
3. Uncle Scrooge/ Donald Duck by Carl Barks
4. Maus I and II
5. Invincible
6. Nexus
7. Age of Bronze
8. Leave it to Chance
9. The Rocketeer
10. Shockrockets

[Hellblazer]

Miracleman
Zenith
Grendel
Mage
Nexus
American Flagg
Scout
The Maxx
Domu
Dirty Pair

[Noir56]

His Name is Savage
Blazing Combat
Eerie
Creepy
The Spirit
Stray Bullets
Bone
The Crow
American Flagg
Kabuki

[Liliaeth]

I'm afraid I don't know enough enough non-big two titles to make a top ten.

But of the ones I did read I'd say

1..Meltdown
2. Invincible
3. Maus
4. Spike:Asylum
5. Angel: Auld Lang Syne

[NoPrize]

1.Teenage Mutant Ninja Turltes
2.Sin City
3. From Hell
4. Astro City
5. The Tick
6. Strangers in Paradise
7. Cerebus
8. Archies/ Betty& Veronica
9. Vampirella
10. Heavy Metal

Honorable Mention:
Gold Digger

[carl kolchak]

Man, this is hard. Too many choices. I'll exclude Vertigo, don't really care about Wildstorm, and because Powers is now a Marvel book I'll exclude that (Making it easier for me).

1. Moore and Campbell's From Hell
2. Matt Wagner's Grendel
3. Alan Moore's Miracleman
4. Scott Mcloud's Zot!
5. Ostrander and Truman's Grimjack
6. David Sim's Cerebus
7. Baron and Rude's Nexus
8. Paul Chadwick's Concrete
9. Brian Bendis' Torso
10. Evanier and Spiegle's Crossfire

Way too many honorable mentions. The one current book that I'd put in this company would be Jack Staff.