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MattBrady
02-07-2003, 10:19 AM
<img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/DC/skylark.jpg" width="160" height="515" align="right" alt="Skylark from Mighty Love">UPDATED WITH THREE NEW PAGES

No stranger to the writing side of comics for the last few years, fans of Howard Chaykin have been almost of one voice in wondering one thing – when would the creator get back to illustrating? Behold – a cause for celebration among Chaykin fans - Mighty Love, a 96-page graphic novel coming this summer from DC, written and illustrated by Chaykin. Newsarama had a chance to speak with the creator for the details.

For a quick idea of what Mighty Love is all about, think You’ve Got Mail, or more accurately, the earlier inspirations for Nora Ephron’s film, such as In the Good Old Summertime, The Shop Around the Corner, and She Loves Me - with superheroes.

Really.

The big picture – Delaney Pope and Lincoln Reinhart, hard nose cop and public defender by day (respectively) who despise one another during the day, and costumed hero (Skylark and the Iron Angel, respectively) by night. Attraction ensues – at night. With the masks.

Skylark is a sexy, sultry crime fighter with a passion for social justice. If you’re a crooked cop, or abusing power, Skylark is looking for you. Meanwhile, Iron Angel is a combat-gear wearing vigilante who goes after the city’s criminals with a vengeance. The two meet when a million dollars in cash is stolen from a motivational seminar, and though at loggerheads about how to proceed, each immediately feels an attraction towards the other. As each continues to deal with the other in their costumed identities, both share their issues with their therapist.

But – if you’re a long-time Chaykin fan, back off of the idea that this is somehow related to Black Kiss, and will delve into the fetishistic nature of costumes, masks, and the possible sexual gratification one might receive from beating on other people. It’s nothing quite that dark. Instead, think romantic comedy.

<img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/DC/ironangel.jpg" width="160" height="362" align="left" alt="Iron Angel from Mighty Love">With colors by Dave Stewart, letters by Kurt Hathaway, and edits by Joey Cavalieri, the creator-owned Mighty Love is the first of many more upcoming projects that Chaykin will create, write and illustrate.

Finally, as an aside, if you’re wondering where Chaykin has been recently that’s prevented him from drawing anything, it boils down to two letters: T and V. The acclaimed comics creator made the jump to television production in the late ‘80s, and has been increasingly more involved with that over the years since. Most recently, Chaykin was a producer on the syndicated Mutant X series. Leaving that gave him free time and hand that was itchy to hold a pen again.

Newsarama: First off, where did Mighty Love come from? Is it something that’s been germinating in the back of your mind while other things were on the front burners?

Howard Chaykin: The germ of this came from my wife--who asked me why there weren’t anymore love comics. I explained that all comics are love comics, because they’re all soap opera. That wasn’t what she wanted to hear, so she pushed and badgered me, and ultimately what emerged was the title, Mighty Love--the idea of doing a screwball romantic comedy with people wearing masks. The natural source of that would be The Shop Around the Corner, You’ve Got Mail, and all those stories of mistaken identities.

NRAMA: So it’s those stories, with superheroes?

HC: Yeah. One of the basic tenets of superhero comics is the secret identity.

NRAMA: Except here we’ve got Delaney and Lincoln instead of Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan. Can you give a sketch of each? Let’s start with Delaney…

<a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/DC/mightylove3.jpg"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/DC/mightylove3_t.jpg" width="175" height="256" align="right" alt="Mighty Love, page 3" border="0"></a>HC: She’s an honest cop in a dishonest administration. Her politics are centrist/right. She’s a Catholic girl with a strong moral streak and a certain heartsickness about some of the things she has to do on her job, because she recognizes that the people she works for are corrupt. She acts this out in a neurotic way by becoming Skylark at night.

NRAMA: And Lincoln?

HC: Lincoln is a limousine liberal – a product of an upper middle class upbringing and education, who’s a defense attorney. He has the same heartsickness because of the legal system he works in – he finds himself working for people he despises. At night he becomes the Iron Angel, a hard-boiled, take-no-prisoners asskicker.

These two know each other in their professional lives, and they frequently find themselves on opposite sides of a witness box. They meet behind masks, and develop what ultimately evolves into a romantic relationship.

NRAMA: So, while they’re on the different side of the coin in their day jobs, at night, they get the same kind of…relief, for lack of a better word, from the mask.

HC: Right. The masks give them an opportunity to live without compromise—as opposed to their day to day lives of constant compromise. They’re both a little neurotic, but the masks take care of a lot of those neuroses, and they’re having a good time.

NRAMA: Is this set in a “real” world rather than a superhero universe?

HC: Absolutely. It takes place in an unnamed, great American city, in my view of the real world. It’s now. There aren’t a lot of guys running around shooting lightning bolts from their eyes, and no sharks with lasers on their heads.

NRAMA: When you mentioned the origination of the idea - given the subject and the fact that the superhero involvement in the story is minimal, in that Delany and Lincoln are the only ones, are you looking for this to bridge the gap between superhero and non-superhero readers, or hell with it, just tell a good story?

<a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/DC/mightylove4.jpg"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/DC/mightylove4_t.jpg" width="175" height="271" align="left" alt="Mighty Love, page 4" border="0"></a>HC: Just tell a good story. I wish I was cannier in terms of my choices of material, because I would be wealthier, happier, and have more comfort and privacy, which is really all I want out of the world. I tend to do what I feel like doing, and hope that people like it. That’s it.

NRAMA: You’re bringing in a therapist to it, which undoubtedly helps with the exposition…

HC: True, but at no point will I say, “Look! Look! Therapist!” It’s part of the story. I’m not fond of spelling everything out for the reader. I work hard enough on this stuff, so I expect a little more time from readers to read it and figure it all out. Characters don’t constantly refer to one another by their full names, and they don’t constantly remind one another of who they are. I don’t want to force the reader to stop while I have someone explain something that they should already know. I’d much rather just keep telling the story.

NRAMA: Fair enough. So what about the balancing act – in a story like this, sooner or later, the reveal has to come out…

HC: Not in this one.

NRAMA: They don’t?

HC: Nope. I chose not to reveal the identities to one another.

NRAMA: Okay – that certainly will take things in a different direction. Moving away from the story – recently, you’ve been writing comics, but this is the first one where you’ve done the full art. What pushed you to do it?

HC: I learned years ago that if I’ve got a full-time job staffing a television series, I can’t draw a book. It’s too work intensive. I’m not staffing right now, and I had a big chunk of time, dove in, and discovered how much I’ve missed it. I had no clue how much missed it, and I’m going to be doing this for at least the next several years. I’m having a better time now than I’ve had in a long time.

NRAMA: From looking at the preview art, it looks as if you haven’t missed a beat – your nearly obsessive attention to detail is still there.

<a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/DC/mightylove5.jpg"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/DC/mightylove5_t.jpg" width="250" height="189" align="right" alt="Mighty Love, page 5-6" border="0"></a>HC: Yeah, I’m pretty production-based. American Flagg!, Time2, and even Black Kiss anticipated the arrival of Photoshop. A lot of the stuff I used to do with a copier, I’m now able to do with Photoshop.

NRAMA: So the old dog is learning new tricks..

HC: With the help of an assistant who is teaching me how to do this. Teach one, learn one, do one. His name is Don Cameron, the guy who did Cyberella. He’s a crack computer guy, and he’s responsible for the computer effects in Mighty Love.

NRAMA: When you say you see yourself doing this for the next several years, are you talking of Mighty Love, or others?

HC: A sequel is certainly in the offing, but I am also in the process of setting up a couple of new concepts that I’ll write and draw.

NRAMA: With Mighty Love, despite what you said about having more fun now than when you’re staffing television shows, is this something that you could see yourself carrying over to television or movies?

HC: Absolutely. One of the reasons to work in comics today is to create properties with ancillary value in other media. So if I’m doing a creator-owned property, I’m trying to create something that generates interest outside of comics. But for now, finishing this is my number one priority—and I’m having a great time.

The following three pages occur sequentially just prior to the pages with Skylark and Iron Angel on them calling the police. Click the thumbnails for larger versions.

Please note: the following pages contain graphics images, foul language and racial epithets that may be objectionable out of context. This book will be labeled for mature readers.

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psychoengine
02-07-2003, 10:37 AM
Chaykin is cool... can't wait to see this.

Now if they could just release all the AMERICAN FLAGGS as TPBs...

Mark Thorson
02-07-2003, 10:38 AM
I like Chaykin. I think I'll check this out.

MarcDeering
02-07-2003, 10:40 AM
YES!!!!

Brian Wink
02-07-2003, 10:43 AM
It's great to read that Howard's missed drawing, 'cause I've sure as hell missed seeing new illustration work from him. Twenty years ago American Flagg! blew my junior high mind and, even with the increase of "smart" mainstream comics writing since then, he still one of the most fiercely intellectual creators working in the biz.

I'd say that I hope this volume would do well enough for DC to consider reprinting the first twelve issues of Flagg!, but I'd almost rather them stay fresh in my memory than be reproduced on DC's crap trade paperstock, as I'm afraid Mighty Love will be.

Mark Millar2
02-07-2003, 10:51 AM
I can't wait for this. Chaykin's a genius and our greatest penciller since Mister A. Toth.

And, btw, Howard, if you're reading this, please drop me a line at mark@millarworld.biz because I lost your email address the great KLEZ virus of 2002.

Anyway, pre-order this now because it's going to be great.

MM

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02-07-2003, 11:15 AM
I've never been a big Howard Chaykin fan (I hated what he did with Blackhawk and The Shadow), but this looks pretty good. I prefer it when he sticks to his own creations.

Brian
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DanLTaylor
02-07-2003, 11:16 AM
Yay Chaykin! This sounds right up my alley. Looking forward to it.

sythspawn
02-07-2003, 11:37 AM
It's so great to hear we'll be getting more Chaykin art! I've really been buying up as much of his older stuff as I could get my hands on and I think it's fantastic. Reading American Century on a semi-monthly basis just isn't enough. And let me throw my hat into the arena by saying, how about some American Flagg! collections? :)

gon
02-07-2003, 11:46 AM
this is great news. as much as i enjoy american century, i've missed mr. chaykin's art.
does anyone know if there are any plans to release new editions of american flagg! and blackhawk in paperback?

SpaceMonkey
02-07-2003, 12:52 PM
Howard's like one of the first real comic book rebels...At least as far as my lifetime. A lot of people didn't like what he did with BLACKHAWK and the SHADOW simply because he made them different. People can't deal with change. The BLACKHAWK series and the SHADOW series under Chaykin was, admittedly, much more 'hard-core' in the sense of sensuality and, perhaps, violence (those of SHADOW pulps were pretty damned violent) but the core characteristics were still there and the changes he may have made to the origins (the Shadow's origin was never really solidified, anyway) made them much more interesting, in my opinion. I'm actually glad to see his artwork again as I have missed it's graphic qualities. Good to see you back at the desk, Howard!

dogisred
02-07-2003, 02:37 PM
I've enjoyed Chaykin's work in comics and on television. I will definately be picking this up, but I would like to see him return to the "Black Kiss" stories as well. Thanks for coming back to the art side of comics Howard!

Michael C Lorah
02-07-2003, 02:39 PM
i was wondering what Don Cameron had been up to since Cyberella ended. What a great series that was. I'd love to see more comics work by him as well as from Howard.

In fact, I'm selfishly hoping that nothing happens too fast on a Hollywood level so we can get a few more projects from Howard on the comics' end of things:)

MattBrady
02-07-2003, 02:51 PM
just updated with new art.

MattB

can1
02-07-2003, 03:26 PM
These pages are amazing.

blankpoint
02-07-2003, 03:27 PM
Grant Morrison once was interviewed in Amazing Heroes (circa 1990 I believe) and he called 'Black Kiss' a WANK RAG... which it pretty much was, a wank rag with great art... A lot of Chaykin's other work is great though.

By the way, in that interview, Morrison also mentions how X-Men should have been cancelled after the Dark Phoenix saga. hehe..

can1
02-07-2003, 03:34 PM
Matt

Had a chance to catch the Rich Johnson/Bill Jemas interview in this weeks 'Tommy'?

Micah Wright
02-07-2003, 03:37 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mark Millar2:
[QB]btw, Howard, if you're reading this, please drop me a line at mark@millarworld.biz because I lost your email address the great KLEZ virus of 2002.
/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He's not reading this... he hates the internet. Drop me mail at Micah@micahwright.com and I'll forward you his email address.

gren99
02-07-2003, 04:54 PM
i remember reading AF! for the first time and thinking that i was reading the word of a potentially great writer/artist. then i read chaykin's 'the shadow' and i KNEW i was reading a great writer/artist.

for allt he knocking people give that series, i still think it was one of the freshest takes on the subject matter, ever. to each their own, i guess.

chaykin is one of hte few writer/artists i make it a point to check their stuff out, regardless of subject matter -- and naturally i can't wait to see this GN in print. it's been a good long time since mr. chaykin drew anything -- anyone know what his last drawn project before this was?

Warren V. Wind
02-07-2003, 05:27 PM
I want my American Flagg!
and I want it NOW!!!

Great to hear that Howard is coming back to illustrating.
Let's hope he has enough time to do more and more.

"Mighty Love" looks mighty intriguing.
:cool:

Arnout
02-07-2003, 08:42 PM
anyone know 'exactly' how many Americna Flaggs there are? I've got 1-11 (and hating not having at least 12)

Chaykin was most likely my first visit to 'mature' comics with Black Kiss. (Best legitimate wank rag I've gor lying around :D ) I've loved his stuff feverishly ever since, and own most of it, i think.
Not much knowledge about Shadow prior to his take, but loved it, as the WWII Batman Elsworlds, Fortune & Glory (oh what fun) etc...
Please guide me to blackhawk now, I haven't been able to track those down...

DaveGarcia
02-07-2003, 08:57 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Arnout:
<strong>anyone know 'exactly' how many Americna Flaggs there are? I've got 1-11 (and hating not having at least 12)

Chaykin was most likely my first visit to 'mature' comics with Black Kiss. (Best legitimate wank rag I've gor lying around :D ) I've loved his stuff feverishly ever since, and own most of it, i think.
Not much knowledge about Shadow prior to his take, but loved it, as the WWII Batman Elsworlds, Fortune & Glory (oh what fun) etc...
Please guide me to blackhawk now, I haven't been able to track those down...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There were 50 issues of the first series, but Chaykin stopped doing everything but the covers somewhere around issue 29 (He did about 25, then there was a fill in, then he did a few more isssues, IIRC). Alan Moore did an arc after Chaykin, and then Steven Grant took over, and I believe wrote the series until it ended, but I'm not 100% positive on that. Chaykin did all the covers, if my memory hasn't completely failed.

He then did twelve issues of Howard Chaykin's American Flagg, but then that series came to an end.

I believe that First put out an American Flagg special to kick it all off, however. But again, my memory is somewhat rusty.

But, truth be told, when people talk about American Flagg, they're generally remembering the first 12 issues of volume one, which forms a complete novel told in four three issue story arcs, so if you have the first twelve issues, you've pretty much got the whole AF experience. The other issues are all great, and I've read them several times, but those first 12 are what made AF such a well remembered series.

Arnout
02-07-2003, 09:13 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DaveGarcia:
But, truth be told, when people talk about American Flagg, they're generally remembering the first 12 issues of volume one, which forms a complete novel told in four three issue story arcs, so if you have the first twelve issues, you've pretty much got the whole AF experience. The other issues are all great, and I've read them several times, but those first 12 are what made AF such a well remembered series.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I'd heard this before, but thanks for the speedy confirmation (albeit somewhat clouded <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> )
Here's something else: I seem to recall, in one of The All the Rage/Lying in the gutters, that Chaykin has managed to keep American Century afloat thanks to his good relations within DC.
Regardless, think that'll help reprints of AF! along, like they're doing for the marvelised vertigo writers?

Daniel Harvey
02-07-2003, 10:29 PM
Does Chaykin have the rights to Flagg? Did anyone other than First ever print it? I just don't know how possible it is for anyone, let alone DC, to reprint it.

The fact that Moore worked on the series had escaped me. Wow. Was Bob Violence Moore's? Grant's?

Bullwinkle
02-08-2003, 01:09 AM
Hallelujah! :)

This is the best comic news I've heard in a LONG time, and I certainly hope that it does live up to some of his past OGN's like the Time2 series ....

- Chris

J Wyatt
02-08-2003, 01:57 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
But – if you’re a long-time Chaykin fan, back off of the idea that this is somehow related to Black Kiss, and will delve into the fetishistic nature of costumes, masks, and the possible sexual gratification one might receive from beating on other people. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">DARN IT! Well, maybe we'll get stockings and heels and garters with the next project. I'll still check this out.

Brandon J. Morgan
02-08-2003, 01:03 PM
It's great to see Howard Chaykin drawing again. I've always been a huge fan and a big supporter of his work.

If you're not reading his current Vertigo title, American Century, you're missing out on classic Chaykin. I think in the coming years, people will look back on this series as the defining Chaykin series. It's a fun, entertaining read that deserves more attention than it has been getting. I think it tops current Vertigo darlings Fables and Y, and that's saying something since those books are excellent as well.

heeBGB
02-09-2003, 03:42 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Brandon J. Morgan:
<strong>If you're not reading his current Vertigo title, American Century, you're missing out on classic Chaykin. I think in the coming years, people will look back on this series as the defining Chaykin series.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have to disagree with this -- as fine as American Century is, any work of Chaykin's that doesn't showcase his inimitable style as an illustrator and designer could hardly be considered definitive... many have tried to emulate it and, quite frankly, have failed. Chaykin's return as a "double-threat" writer and artist is the real reason why this latest development with "Mighty Love" is so welcome.

Jeremy Williams
02-10-2003, 06:07 AM
I know he`s doing mostly tv right now(apart from some comic-work), but Howard should be approached to do greater...more ambitious things if you catch my drift.

carazan
02-10-2003, 05:39 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Arnout:
<strong>Please guide me to blackhawk now, I haven't been able to track those down...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nout--

If you're interested, I've got an extra set of the three books. Be glad to send it to a fan at a reasonable price. let me know,

carazan@cbrmail.com

Take care.

Bryan Harris
02-11-2003, 03:28 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Daniel Harvey:
<strong>Does Chaykin have the rights to Flagg? Did anyone other than First ever print it? I just don't know how possible it is for anyone, let alone DC, to reprint it.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></strong>

I invite corrections if I'm in any way mistaken, but my understanding is that when First went under, the rights to Flagg! reverted directly to Chaykin, and remain with him still.

I assume the issue with reprints is one of potential publishers perceiving low demand. The only recent reprints of AF! were put out by Graphitti Designs in the early '90s: limited-edition hardback versions of the three collections-cum-graphic novels, Hard Times (issues #1-3), Southern Comfort (#4-6), and State of the Union (#7-9). I think they still have some in stock at their webstore.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>The fact that Moore worked on the series had escaped me. Wow. Was Bob Violence Moore's? Grant's?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Moore only did Raul the Cat backups from issue #21-27, and, surprisingly, they rank with his more desultory material. Bob Violence (and his incredibly stupid mutant dog, Scum) was purely Chaykin's.

Burke 0011
02-13-2003, 09:54 AM
G'DAMN it is good to see Chaykin art again.
Been so long settling for only covers...

Gotta pick this up!