MOSTOW NAMED AS SUB-MARINER DIRECTOR

[MattBrady]

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/movies/Namor1.jpg" border="0" align="right">Put a <i>Sub-Mariner</i> (“sub MARE-i-NER” let’s all start saying it correctly since, you know, a movie is coming and all) on the list of Marvel’s upcoming movies, and this time, write it in pen, not pencil…like last time, apparently.

According to <i>Variety</i>, Jonathan (<i>Terminator 3</i>) Mostow has been signed by Universal Pictures to rewrite and direct a film based on Marvel’s ruler of the seas. The film had been long in the percolation, with Chris Columbus named as its helmer in 2004, with a 2007 released date named as well.

The trade reports that it will be the next film Mostow makes, although the director has three movies currently listed on his slate: an untitled remake, <i>Swiss Family Robinson</i>, and <i>Terminator 4</i>, which was just announced as a major tentpole for MGM/Universal; thus an actual production start is anyone’s guess.

<i>Variety</i> explains the story as centering on a young man who dissovers he’s a descendant from Atlantis, and destined to play a pivotal role in a war brewing between the undersea world and the surface.

<i>From Variety</i>: Kevin Misher is producing through his Misher Films along with Marvel Studios. U’s Peter Cramer is overseeing for the studio, Kevin Feige for Marvel. David Self wrote an earlier draft of the screenplay.

[Faithless]

Hmm ... I am not sure how this one is gonna pan out. I like Namor but this doesn't really sound like his story.

[King CBR]

Hmm ... I am not sure how this one is gonna pan out. I like Namor but this doesn't really sound like his story.

Too bad they effed up the Fantastic Four so bad.... FF versus Atlantean invasion of New York would have been an AWESOME movie... with Sue and Namor and the whole nine... Friggin hollywood.

[Mercury]

It's doubtful that this would please everyone and stay true to the character, but it's good to see the Sub-Mariner getting some attention, he certainly deserves it being Marvel's first anti-hero, and one of the most published super-heroes of the 1940s'.

[Ye Olde Iowa]

I'm not quite sure how I feel about this. I'm sensing a major flop on this one. I think that Iron Man and Cap movies have potential, but Namor seems a bit much. Hell, even the idea of an Ant-Man movie sounds better...then again its only because Edgar Wright is behind it (honestly, just by reading interviews about it, I'd love to see his take on the new Irredemable Ant-Man series).

I'd much rather see Namor introduced in a Fantastic Four film (I have a feeling FF2 will be loads better than the first...which was a good popcorn flick if you take it for what it is) and then possibly spun off.

It seems to me that Marvel is going to oversaturate the market with superhero films. I mean, we have Wolverine, young Magneto, Hulk 2, Fantastic Four 2, Punisher 2, Spider-Man 3, Captain America, Iron Man, Ant-Man, Thor, Nick Fury, and Namor all coming out within the next 3 or 4 years, in addition to DC's The Dark Knight, Wonder Woman, and probably Superman Returns 2.

I love superhero movies as much as anyone else, if not more (I even loved that crappy 90's Captain America movie and the Hasselhof Nick Fury movie), but I'd hate to see all of this collapse.

[Mercury]

i agree with alot of your points Iowa, but at the same token, i feel that Namor is so much more than a supporting character to the F.F, especially as their movie was more geared to the MTV generation than loyal to the F.F mythology itself, so I'd hate to see how much Namor would be miscast if he was placed in one of the sequels. but even in comics, Namor is mostly used as a love rival for Reed Richards, which is utterly ridiculous in this day and age. most recently this was used in the Marvel Knights 4 series, and when one considers that this plot device has been used for 40 years now, it makes you think theres got to be more to do with the Sub-Mariner than just put him in the F.F.

[Tater Salad]

Out of all the characters they could do a movie on, they want to do one on Namor??? I bet they got someone working on a script for a Bucky movie right now.:rolleyes:

[Skinshark]

Unless the film is set in WWII, it's just going to be as weak a concept as AQUAMAN.

I mean...I can only guess what demographic they'll be shooting for when the lead character is a really buff Mr. Spock in a speedo. I mean...it'd be just an uneducated guess of course.;)

Unless they went with the black and gold costume to give the guy a little dignity.
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[BanMan]

Is this a Namor movie or an Aquaman film? Really, why mess with a good thing. I understand you wanna make him relatable but geez. Hope he doesn't have to lose the pointy ears or winged ankles (which admittedly look rather silly).

Sounds like we're getting Namor in his early 20s. Bummer.

Well, I'm not liking the idea for this film but I will be hopeful.

[samnoir]

Terminator 3... there's a James Cameron connection eh? Anyone watching Entourage?

I'm thinking if someone couldn't get the rights to make an Aquaman movie, they would go for a Namor the Submariner movie.

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[ZEBULON]

a Namor movie could be awesome if done right, and written by me, because I am awesome.
Picture this a homeless guy mumbling incoherently to himself and walking in the middle of a street. He's mumbling about the ocean and world war two etc. Then a car comes and wrecks itself against him. Twisted metal everywhere, but he is untarnished. Someone ( a love interest) sees the accident, and tries to help him, take him in etc, and eventually he comes to realize who he is in time to stop the war. i would really play up his water deficiency schizophrenia thing, and it would have a memento feel as well as a twist at the end.

Don't sleep on namor, He is a very interesting character, heck dc based one of their main characters on him.

[Switch]

How else do people pronounce Sub-Mariner?

[ThatNickGuy]

Rather than another generic sueprhero movie, I had an idea for a Namor movie that, personally, I thought would be pretty neat.

Have it as a time piece that takes place during World War II. It starts off with Namor being a villain, much like he originally debuted. Have a big brawl with the original Human Torch, even. Or heck, Captain America.

Then, at some point, Germany threatens Atlantis, forcing Namor's hand to attack them head-on, himself. Think of the scene in Busiek and Ross' Marvels where Namor is shown on the film footage, joining the fight against the Nazi's. So, the second half of the movie is Namor throwing old WWII German tanks around and catching mortars, throwing them back, etc. You could make the whole look of the film grainy, similar to Saving Private Ryan and other WWII-based films.

Just an idea, anyway. Not that it'll ever see the light of day, but I thought it was cool.

[CitC]

How else do people pronounce Sub-Mariner? Beat me to it by two posts.

[Prometheus3]

I'm happy that the Sub-Mariner is finally receiving the attention that he deserves but I don't know if Jonathan Mostow is the right director for him. From what I saw of Terminator 3 it could have been a hell of a lot better. We'll see what the plot is and who is cast as Namor. It better not be Arnold (can't spell his last name).

[1.5]

You could pronounce it the same way you pronounce submarine but with an -er on the end.

[Space Canuck]

Quote:
How else do people pronounce Sub-Mariner?



They say it like submarine with an er.

Reminds me of when I was a kid and everyone would call Rogue, Rouge. This was obviously before the 90s cartoon.

Space Canuck

[dalunt]

Beat me to it by two posts.

Sub Muh-REE-NUR

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I would rather watch an Aquaman movie with Vince from Entourage, or even that Aquaman show (was kinda cool), then a Namor movie. Especially when the "origin" sounds way too much like Aquaman then it does Namor.

I agree put Namor in FF3 and have him tryin to steal Sue away, classic plot line but it would definitely work in the film, plus you could see Jessica Alba bein the little skank that she is.

[Clem]

This really doesnt sound like a Namor story to me. With Hollywood studios theres always gonna be an emphasis on making the hero a relatable and nice kinda guy, only Namor.....isnt.

I mean every time he sees a surface dweller he's like "For f*cks sake!! THIS AGAIN?!? Why cant you air sucking animals go pester some other eco-system!!"

Basically, he's a grouch. And that'll never fly in Hollywood.

[OM]

Hmm ... I am not sure how this one is gonna pan out. I like Namor but this doesn't really sound like his story....Yeah, it sounds more like a recycling of an Aquaman origin. If they wanted to do Namor right, they'd take the full, original origin intact and run with it, complete with Ann Prentiss bonking Namor to get him to help fight against the Nazis.

[J.D. Lombardi]

This role should be The Rock's to lose.

If he doesn't get it....it'll be time to petition for a Black Adam movie.

;)

[JLAJRC]

I don't know. I didn't care for Terminator 3 (why are they doing a 4?). Plus, unless you're pirate in the carribean, man-eating shark, or have James Cameron behind you (Abyss, and that Entourage movie ;) ) audiences don't seem to embrace water-based movies very much.

I got to agree when people say I'd also prefer Namor to be a supporting character or villain in F4 2 or another sequel.

[KyleCowstar]

SWEET!!!! I loved Terminator 3!!! I loved how all the themes contradicted those of the first two films and that the overall pacing was weak! Woo--whooo!!!!! :p

[delawarejoel]

Rather than another generic sueprhero movie, I had an idea for a Namor movie that, personally, I thought would be pretty neat.

Have it as a time piece that takes place during World War II. It starts off with Namor being a villain, much like he originally debuted. Have a big brawl with the original Human Torch, even. Or heck, Captain America.

Then, at some point, Germany threatens Atlantis, forcing Namor's hand to attack them head-on, himself. Think of the scene in Busiek and Ross' Marvels where Namor is shown on the film footage, joining the fight against the Nazi's. So, the second half of the movie is Namor throwing old WWII German tanks around and catching mortars, throwing them back, etc. You could make the whole look of the film grainy, similar to Saving Private Ryan and other WWII-based films.

Just an idea, anyway. Not that it'll ever see the light of day, but I thought it was cool.

The heck with Marvels, they could do some really amazing stuff by going back to the original Bill Everett source material - Namor as merciless, angry young badass who discovers that (a) his father was a hated human and (b) all surface dwellers suck but the Nazis suck worst of all. Finally, an anti-hero Marvel movie. Plus, take the visual cues from Everett's murky, blue-green look (see early issues of Marvel Mystery Comics, some of which were reprinted in the Invaders in the '70's) and you've got something.

But I agree with the above synopsis sounding like a bad Aquaman movie or worse, Man from Atlantis.....

[AresKill]

Wow people complaining about the movie before they even know anything concrete about it. Who would have figured.Must be the same group that knocked raimi before he started

[dantebk]

Dang! I was hoping Namor wouldn't go anywhere until I became an enormously successful screenwriter and could pitch it myself.

[Skatonic10]

Why? WHY WHY WHY? Why the hell are they making this movie?

1) The guy doesn't even have his own monthly - although I'm guessing this means one is coming, probably spining out of Civil War

2) No one cares! Is this ANYONE'S favorite hero?

3) I didn't think Marvel could do a movie worse than Elektra, but I think this might beat it.

[EmeraldGuy32]

I don't like the young man finding himself angle, but I dig the undersea-surface war thing. it could be good, but I doubt it.

[cncoyle]

Sub Muh-REE-NURI thought it was sub MARE en ur.

[lex luthor]

Mostow gave us Breakdown and U-571. The man can direct. As for T3, it was a weak screenplay but overall his direction was tight.

Submariner is going to live or die on the strength of the screenplay.

There is the possibility of an oversaturation w/superhero movies and Namor is not one of Marvel's more well-known characters which makes it even more important that Marvel Productions picks-up a top flight director (and I believe Mostow is in that category) and a top-flight screenwriter.

As for a release date, I wouldn't expect to see this in theatres until 2009.

[ThatNickGuy]

Why? WHY WHY WHY? Why the hell are they making this movie?

1) The guy doesn't even have his own monthly - although I'm guessing this means one is coming, probably spining out of Civil War

2) No one cares! Is this ANYONE'S favorite hero?

3) I didn't think Marvel could do a movie worse than Elektra, but I think this might beat it.

1) Blade didn't.
2) Not many people cared about Blade, either. Still don't, as far as the comics go.
3) Can't be any worse than Catwoman.

[nickmaynard]

Unless the film is set in WWII, it's just going to be as weak a concept as AQUAMAN.



no because aquaman sucks and namor is a bad ass jerk.

[tiso_spencer]

How cute, they're making an Aquaman movie.

[spidey_82]

Suddenly an Iron-Man directed by John Favreau doesn't sound that bad...:p

[Kolimar]

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/movies/Namor1.jpg" border="0" align="right">Put a <i>Sub-Mariner</i> (“sub MARE-i-NER” let’s all start saying it correctly since, you know, a movie is coming and all) on the list of Marvel’s upcoming movies, and this time, write it in pen, not pencil…like last time, apparently.

According to <i>Variety</i>, Jonathan (<i>Terminator 3</i>) Mostow has been signed by Universal Pictures to rewrite and direct a film based on Marvel’s ruler of the seas. The film had been long in the percolation, with Chris Columbus named as its helmer in 2004, with a 2007 released date named as well.

The trade reports that it will be the next film Mostow makes, although the director has three movies currently listed on his slate: an untitled remake, <i>Swiss Family Robinson</i>, and <i>Terminator 4</i>, which was just announced as a major tentpole for MGM/Universal; thus an actual production start is anyone’s guess.

<i>Variety</i> explains the story as centering on a young man who dissovers he’s a descendant from Atlantis, and destined to play a pivotal role in a war brewing between the undersea world and the surface.

<i>From Variety</i>: Kevin Misher is producing through his Misher Films along with Marvel Studios. U’s Peter Cramer is overseeing for the studio, Kevin Feige for Marvel. David Self wrote an earlier draft of the screenplay.

The movie is moving forward: good news. :)

Mostow: not sure. I think his best movie was U-571 which he also wrote. I also enjoyed Breakdown but Terminator left me cold. Nice action but I expected a bit more. He really hasn't done a lot of movies.

The story: once again, Hollywood changes the original story when there's no need for it. At least not in such a way that it sounds more like they're confusing Aquaman with Namor. :p

[Dave Elliott]

Personally I think Aint-It-Cool-News got it right...

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23906#12

But then I would say that wouldn't I?

Dave

[Kolimar]

You could pronounce it the same way you pronounce submarine but with an -er on the end.

That's how I pronounce it. :D

[CitC]

Sub Muh-REE-NURThat never would have occured to me. But, I used to call Rogue Rouge, and as a kid Prof X was Prof Yacks-fur (granted that was only in my head since none of my friends read comics=no one to talk about comics to and no one to tell me I was an idiot :) )

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tRWeaHkxXwE

And, just because:
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=tkYaauQkSFc&mode=related&search=

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[Kolimar]

1) Blade didn't.
2) Not many people cared about Blade, either. Still don't, as far as the comics go.

Good answers even though the second one is very relative and highly debatable (see my second answer). I would add


Why? WHY WHY WHY? Why the hell are they making this movie?

Money.


1) The guy doesn't even have his own monthly - although I'm guessing this means one is coming, probably spining out of Civil War

What does having a monthly have to do with making a movie based on the character? Absolutely nothing. Having a monthly wouldn't affect the movie.


2) No one cares! Is this ANYONE'S favorite hero?

Be careful how you phrase your opinions. That "no one cares" sounds like you assume the rest of the world agrees with you and it doesn't exactly generate a lot of respect. Personally, Namor is not my favorite character but he's one of the many I love. Lots of fans care about Namor, including people that don't buy comics at all anymore or that would choose to buy something else because of financial reasons.

[Dino Pollard]

It seems to me that Marvel is going to oversaturate the market with superhero films. I mean, we have Wolverine, young Magneto, Hulk 2, Fantastic Four 2, Punisher 2, Spider-Man 3, Captain America, Iron Man, Ant-Man, Thor, Nick Fury, and Namor all coming out within the next 3 or 4 years, in addition to DC's The Dark Knight, Wonder Woman, and probably Superman Returns 2.
I wouldn't say it's going to oversaturate. Of the films you mentioned, only Spider-Man 3 is actually finished, with Fantastic Four 2 and Iron Man a good bit into pre-production. The rest have pretty much just been announced with, at most, a director attached. It's not the first time Marvel has announced a lot of movies due out within the next few years, only to have like, three come out instead. I guarantee you probably about half these films will not see the light of day within the next 3-4 years.

[Kolimar]

The Complete List of Marvel Comics Movies (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61598) :p :D ;)

[jza1218]

Personally I think Aint-It-Cool-News got it right...

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23906#12

But then I would say that wouldn't I?

Dave

I dunno. Would you?

[Kolimar]

I wouldn't say it's going to oversaturate. Of the films you mentioned, only Spider-Man 3 is actually finished, with Fantastic Four 2 and Iron Man a good bit into pre-production. The rest have pretty much just been announced with, at most, a director attached. It's not the first time Marvel has announced a lot of movies due out within the next few years, only to have like, three come out instead. I guarantee you probably about half these films will not see the light of day within the next 3-4 years.

Good point.

I wouldn't say it's going to oversaturate. Of the films you mentioned, only Spider-Man 3 is actually finished,

He didn't mention it but Ghost Rider is finished too. :)

[roony]

Wasn't planning on seeing this anyhow, but the guy who made T3? That's just the kicker.

[Sesshomaru]

I think it might have been more interesting as full fledged , bad ass and egocentric ruler of the seas , pissed by how humans threat the oceans , and teaching the humans a lesson by invading them , then changing a bit his mind , with his peers disagreeing of course .

But oh werll , who knows even though i hate the given premise , i'll wait for the cast and further materials to judge it .

[ahuramazda]

its MARE-in-er, guys. pronounced the same as "Rime of the Ancient Mariner," or as a mariner on a ship. having the sub prefix doesnt change the shortness of the "i" which is short because of the extra syllable by putting the r on the end of marine.

but in everyone's defense who does pronounce it that way, my dad, who grew up with the character in the 40's, calls him "Submarine Man."

[dougspidey]

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/movies/Namor1.jpg" border="0" align="right">Put a <i>Sub-Mariner</i> (“sub MARE-i-NER” let’s all start saying it correctly since, you know, a movie is coming and all) on the list of Marvel’s upcoming movies, and this time, write it in pen, not pencil…like last time, apparently.

According to <i>Variety</i>, Jonathan (<i>Terminator 3</i>) Mostow has been signed by Universal Pictures to rewrite and direct a film based on Marvel’s ruler of the seas. The film had been long in the percolation, with Chris Columbus named as its helmer in 2004, with a 2007 released date named as well.

The trade reports that it will be the next film Mostow makes, although the director has three movies currently listed on his slate: an untitled remake, <i>Swiss Family Robinson</i>, and <i>Terminator 4</i>, which was just announced as a major tentpole for MGM/Universal; thus an actual production start is anyone’s guess.

<i>Variety</i> explains the story as centering on a young man who dissovers he’s a descendant from Atlantis, and destined to play a pivotal role in a war brewing between the undersea world and the surface.

<i>From Variety</i>: Kevin Misher is producing through his Misher Films along with Marvel Studios. U’s Peter Cramer is overseeing for the studio, Kevin Feige for Marvel. David Self wrote an earlier draft of the screenplay.

at last! Namor go to the big screen soon next year or next 2 years before Universal Pictures plan to release date yet before they go shoot the film yet .

[ProNamor]

If this is some kind of stupid teen angst movie, I will be mad. I don't want another Tsunami Namor...

This better take time on WWII. That war was one of the things that turned Namor badass.

[Jeremy Williams]

You got that right. I`ve had enough after:"..a young man.." Bill Jemas is not stupid, he knew how Hollywood thinks. Every ____ing time you think about a story, a character, they always think younger. If it`s an adaptation of novel where the detective is 50 years old, you can be sure they`re gonna hire a 35 years old actor for the part. If it`s required a 35 years old, they`re gonna get the 20 years old.

Forget about getting the right guy. Wich my personal opinion would have been Vincent Cassel in term of being hollier-than-thou, dangerous and the right face and build. They`re probably gonna get somebody from the former WB! network.

What makes me mad is that everytimes you think they can`t possibly screw it up, they do. All they had to do is make Namor ultra badass, appearing out of nowhere and raising Hell. It was too good to be true. Too pleasing for the fans. They had to again try to focus on the teen girls. ____ the demogpraphics!

[Mercury]

Why? WHY WHY WHY? Why the hell are they making this movie?

1) The guy doesn't even have his own monthly - although I'm guessing this means one is coming, probably spining out of Civil War

2) No one cares! Is this ANYONE'S favorite hero?

3) I didn't think Marvel could do a movie worse than Elektra, but I think this might beat it.

Namor is several people's "one of my favorite characters...", I'm sure. Please remember your opinion doesn't speak for anyone.

The Sub-Mariner should at least get some respect for being one of Marvel's flag-ship characters from the late 30s throughout the 40s'- when then he was a conflicted anti-hero, constantly at war with the humans/surface world, a bloody nazi killer, and misunderstood outcast- about 50 years before "Wolverine" was. so yeah, Namor was the blue-print for about 70% of today's "super-heroes". Something to remember.

[ProNamor]

Namor is pretty much the first Marvel character and he certainly is the first anti-hero. He's the first superhero character to actually kill someone in a comic book. So, guys like Punisher and Wolverine follow his legacy...all are badasses.

[Kolimar]

Namor is pretty much the first Marvel character and he certainly is the first anti-hero. He's the first superhero character to actually kill someone in a comic book.

He was also the first Marvel mutant. ;)

[Mercury]

all good points. i think modern readers are just used to Namor as a Quicksilver-esque arrogant guy who is obsessed with Sue Storm, when hes much more than that. Those 40s' stories by Bill Everett are ahead of their time.

[Dirk Manning]

Scrap this origin, stay true to his roots as the King/Prince of Atlantis, and cast Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson in the role.

Hey... a guy can dream, right?

[Fletcher]

Too bad they effed up the Fantastic Four so bad.... FF versus Atlantean invasion of New York would have been an AWESOME movie... with Sue and Namor and the whole nine... Friggin hollywood.


I can not agree with you more on this one. Instead of a movie of his own right off the bat do the FF 2 thing. If that goes well spin Namor into his own movie, like they are doing with Wolverine,