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MattBrady
09-10-2006, 09:20 AM
<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Baltimore/06/DC/52_Cv32_solicit.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Baltimore/06/DC/52_Cv32_solicit_t.jpg" border="0" align="right"></a>Wrapping up the portion of the Saturday programming, DCU Executive Editor Dan Didio played host to a full room for the “DC: One Year Greater” panel at Baltimore Comic-Con. Panelists for the presentation included: Marv Wolfman, George Perez, Bill Willingham, JG Jones, Mark Waid, Barry Kitson, Bb Wayne, and Jann Jones.

Wanted to move quickly to the question and answer portion, Didio only briefly recapped major highlights of the past year from DC, and immediately opened the floor to questions. (<i>Newsarama Note: as with all DC panels, this one was irreverent, fast-paced, and funny. While the actual quotes of the panelists may not have been captured, their intent has been</i>)

<b>Q</b>: Future plans for <b>Aquaman</b>?

<b>Busiek</b>: Every issue gets better. The setup for <b>Aquaman</b> is hopefully something that will read like a big, sprawling fantasy novel. This is not six issues and everything returns to normal, and it will never fully return to what it was before, but that’s not saying that what you want to see happen won’t happen.

<b>Q</b>: How long will the Dweller of the Deep’s identity be a mystery?

<b>Busiek</b>: I thought we answered it in the first issue – the last panel where we showed that he had a water hand was a giveaway. In the next two issues, anyone who didn’t get it will realize that the previous Aquaman is the Dweller. It’s not meant to be a mystery to the readers, but it is to the characters.

<b>Q</b>: Wonder Woman has never appeared in <b>Batman</b> or <b>Detective</b> can you fix that?

<b>Waid</b>: Like Paul Dini wouldn’t kill to write Wonder Woman and Poison Ivy together.

<b>Q</b>: Will there be a collection of JG Jones’ <b>52</b> covers?

Didio pooled the audience, which responded enthusiastically. Didio said that DC is looking into it very seriously as an option after <b>52</b> is complete.

<b>Q</b>: Will Elongated Man come back as hero?

<b>Waid</b>: He’s Supernova.

<b>JG Jones</b>: That’s a stretch.

<b>Q</b>: Why didn’t you kill Nightwing in <b>Infinite Crisis</b>?

<b>Waid</b>: Because Geoff Johns and I took turns holding a big club over Dan once we learned he wanted too.

<b>Perez</b>: And speaking for guys who actually earn residuals off of Nightwing, we like him too.

<b>Q</b>: Why was it even considered?

<b>Waid</b>: Yeah Dan, why?

<b>Wayne</b>: And don’t say again, “Because Bob said it would sell.”

<b>Busiek</b>: Have you ever drunk a lot of Scotch? Dan has.

<b>Waid</b>: Yeah, what has he ever done to you?

<b>Didio</b>: We were looking for the big death in <b>Infinite Crisis</b> – the big moment. We were looking for something that would have equal import and merit and weight in this story. One of the things I’ve been proven wrong about is that I had felt that Dick Grayson was a redundant character – Tim Drake had filled his role as Robin, he would never be Batman, so where could he go?

My big fear was that Nightwing would get older than Batman. The thought was that if we removed Dick form the equation that would allow Bruce Wayne to stand alone as Batman, and to firmly establish Tim Drake as Robin. So now – Marv is showing us why we like him, his place in the DC Universe, and more importantly, his potential in the DC Universe.

<b>Q</b>: Where do you see Tim Drake going after OYL – could he one day take over the mantle?

<b>Didio</b>: Mark, what’s Tim’s role in <b>52</b>?

<b>Waid</b>: He and Dick are partners in <b>52</b>, and there’s discussion in issue #30 or so on which of them would pick up the mantle, and why, if it ever came to it.

<b>Q</b>: What’s in the future of Jason Todd?

<b>Didio</b>: There’s a big Jason Todd story coming up in <b>Green Arrow</b> which reconciles who he is and what he’s about.

Didio then paused and asked the panel a question – favorite characters in the DCU and why?

<b>Wayne</b>: The Question with the Montoya relationship in <b>52</b>. I’ve always been a big fan of the Question.

<b>Kitson</b>: I usually refuse to answer these types, but as you’re the boss…(I’m tempted to say Nightwing just to annoy him) probably…generally it’s one of the ones I’m drawing a the time, so at this moment, I would say Supergirl, but on balance, Batman.

<b>Waid</b>: Superman. Come on, who didn’t see that coming? Here’s a guy who can do anything – absolutely anything, and he chooses to do the right thing, and help people.

<b>JG Jones</b>: I agree with Barry – whatever character I’m doing at the time, so soon it will be Barbara Gordon Batgirl.

<b>Willingham</b>: Kirby’s Fourth World stuff, specifically Mr. Miracle. Dan said he might be available by 2010, so who knows. I also like drawing Detective Chimp. You know they named the company after him, right?

<b>Perez</b>: If I have to choose, it would probably be Wonder Woman, because it did so much for my career and it has some of the sexiest fans I could ever imagine.

<b>Waid</b>: I’m changing my answer to Wonder Woman.

<b>Wolfman</b>: After Casey the Cop, easily Superman – always has been since I was five years old and saw the adventures of Superman television show, and Mark’s answer is as good as any I could give.

<b>Busiek</b>: Hal Jordan – he’s the anti-Batman. Batman has everything mapped out seven ways, while Hal will jump off a cliff and figure out how not to die on his way down. Right now, I’d say Superman because I’m writing Superman and having a blast and the ideas are coming fast and furious. For one to write, Kamandi.

<b>Jann Jones</b>: Batman: Here’s a guy who could do anything he wanted and has millions. He could be Paris Hilton, but he chose not to. And he’s hot.

<b>Q</b>: Favorite villain?

<b>Jann Jones</b>: Harley Quinn.

<b>Busiek</b>: The Galactic Golem, just ‘cause he looks so cool.

<b>Wolfman</b>: The Joker.

<b>Perez</b>: The Joker – he’s an incredible character to write, but also really fun to draw. You can go from realistic arc to wild caricature, and never lose sight of the character.

<b>Willingham</b>: Doctor Alpaca. [making reference to the stuffed alpaca Jann Jones was carrying]

<b>JG Jones</b>: Streaky the Supercat – if you saw what he did to my couch… Mr. Miracle’s villains – Granny Goodness, especially.

<b>Waid</b>: It’s a two way tie between Mordred the Merciless and the Composite Superman, because when I was a kid, they were the only two villains that Superman was scared of, which absolutely terrified me.

<b>Kitson</b>: Iron Maiden from <b>THUNDER Agents</b>.

<b>Wayne</b>: The Joker – if you didn’t know it was there – the last scene of <i>Batman Begins</i> – best telegraph of a sequel you didn’t want to miss, ever.

<b>Didio</b>: As for heroes – Metal Men and Adam Strange in a tie. For villain – Two-Face. I was so disappointed when the movie version came out though. I thought that he could hold a movie all on his own.

<b>Busiek</b>: And then, if you cast Tommy Lee Jones as Two Face, he’s ugly on both sides.

<b>Q</b>: When will see the Blackhawks return?

<b>Didio</b>: The one genre we haven’t gotten into deeply yet other than with Joe Kubert’s <b>Sgt. Rock</b> miniseries, are the war books. We’re starting to look at them, and if we do, Blackhawk will be part of that.

<b>Q</b>: Will there be more titles like <b>Jonah Hex</b> coming?

<b>Didio</b>: More Westerns are coming your way.

<b>Busiek</b>: Plus Jonah Hex is joining the legion next month.

<b>Q</b>: George – will you ever do a series run with Batman?

<b>Perez</b>: I love Batman, and would be there if they asked, but in the meantime, the first issue of <b>Brave & Bold</b> has Batman – and I got the draw Batcave and all the classic props, including the giant penny and dinosaur.

<b>Q</b>: Will we possibly see single characters of the JSA getting their own series?

<b>Didio</b>: We’re going to be changing <b>JSA Classified</b> to more of a <b>Showcase</b> style series, and more like the original Power Girl arc featuring individual characters, so if characters break out with fans, we’ll see about launching them into their own series.

<b>Q</b>: Why is the new Terra not in Titans East?

<b>Didio</b>: She’s a new character for us, and we want to tie her in and establish her on her own before mixing her in.

<b>Q</b>: Will we see Diana Price as Wonder Woman and Donna Troy pick up mantle in <b>52</b>?

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Baltimore/06/DC/BMCONF_Cv1_rgb_2_CMYK.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Baltimore/06/DC/BMCONF_Cv1_rgb_2_CMYK_t.jpg" border="0" align="left"></a><b>Waid</b>: Yes – it’s one of the key pieces we’ve yet to nail down, but it is very important. You’re going to see more and more events in <b>52</b> tying in closer to what we’ve seen in the OYL titles as things move into the final half of the series.

<b>Q</b>: Will we see more members joining Shadowpact?

<b>Willingham</b>: Yes and no. We’re going to add at least one to the membership coming up; and there’s also a storyline coming where Shadowpact gets into trouble and can’t go out, so very much like the first issue of <b>Day of Vengeance</b>, the question goes around the bar of “Who wants to be the substitute Shadowpact today?”

<b>Q</b>: Will Mon-el coming back?

<b>Waid</b>: Who’s this Mon-el of who you speak? Interesting…I would say there’s an extraordinary good chance – even before you may expect.

<b>Q</b>: Will Mordru return to the Legion as well?

<b>Waid</b>: Not for a while. He’s one of my favorite villains, and we’re afraid to bring him back and screw it up, and at the same time, we want to stay away from established Legion characters and villains.

<b>Q</b>: With Richard Donner on <b>Action</b>, will we see a General Zod like the one from <i>Superman II</i>?

<b>Busiek</b>: Yes.

Didio then asked the panel another question favorite comic you’re reading right now?

<b>Wayne</b>: <b>52</b>

<b>Waid</b>: <b>All Star Superman</b>

<b>JG Jones</b>: I’m going to have to punt.

<b>Waid</b>: (whispering) <b>52</b>

<b>JG Jones</b>: Oh, yeah, <b>52</b>.

<b>Willingham</b>: <b>All Star Superman</b>.

<b>Perez</b>: I’m not really reading too many comics anymore, because I’ve been immersed in it for so long. It’s not that I don’t enjoy them; I just tend to find other things to do.

<b>Wolfman</b>: Most of the Superman line and Legion.

<b>Busiek</b>: <b>Fables, Usagi Yojimbo</b>.

<b>Jann Jones</b>: <b>Fables</b>. Dan?

<b>Waid</b>: Yeah, boss of us all, show no favoritism…

<b>Didio</b>: Actually it’s <b>52</b>, because I sit in on all the meetings, and by the time the issue comes out, it isn’t like anything that I thought we talked about or approved, so by the time the issue gets on my desk, it’s all a surprise. Like the upcoming issue – what the hell is a Yeti doing on the cover?

<b>JG Jones</b>: Because I love him!

<b>Q</b>: Will we see George draw Adam Strange?

<b>Perez</b>: Would love to if I get the chance.

<b>Waid</b>: You’re assuming that Adam Strange lives through <b>52</b>, which is adorable of you.

<b>Q</b>: Will there be another vote to kill Jason Todd again?

<b>Waid</b>: That’s a really cool idea.

<b>Didio</b>: We’re still paying back the $.50 to everyone who wanted him dead, and then we’ll turn it around and do it again [laughs].

<b>Q</b>: Will Manhunter appear in other titles?

<b>Didio</b>: She’s in <b>Birds of Prey #100</b>.

<b>Q</b>: Will we see John Stewart as Green Lantern again?

<b>Perez</b>: I got to draw him on the first page of <b>Brave & Bold #1</b>.

<b>Waid</b>: He’s also in <b>52</b> – John and Hal are partners. Geoff and I have talked about putting John back into the limelight as well.

<b>Busiek</b>: I have a big John Stewart story to tell, but I need to talk to Dan about finding a book to put it in.

<b>Didio</b>: We will talk.

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Baltimore/06/DC/JLA05cover.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Baltimore/06/DC/JLA05cover_t.jpg" border="0" align="right"></a><b>Q</b>: Superman was without powers for a year, Clark and Lois are married…is a return of the Superman family forthcoming?

<b>Busiek</b>: Keep reading <b>Action Comics</b>.

Moving to the Lightning Round…

<b>Q</b>: Why can’t Deathstroke kill even one lousy Titan if he’s such a badass?

<b>Busiek</b>: His secret his name is Woundstroke.

<b>Perez</b>: He’s got one eye – it’s a depth perception thing.

<b>Q</b>: Wally West – where’s he at?

<b>Waid</b>: He never writes.

<b>Q</b>: Is that Amazo on that <b>JLA</b> cover?

<b>Didio</b>: Would someone change that picture?

<b>Q</b>: Why is there a Yeti on cover of <b>52</b>?

<b>JG Jones</b>: (Banging on table) Because Yetis are awesome!

merrick2006
09-10-2006, 09:31 AM
The cover for Justice League of America #5 looks suggestive enough to think what the villain did to them.

Who's that defending Ralph?

BleachBubble
09-10-2006, 09:55 AM
Hmmm Perez loves Batman and said he would be there if asked.

I just found the next artist for All Star Batman & Robin AFTER his Brave & The Bold Stint and whenever he finishes Games

Batman1983
09-10-2006, 10:18 AM
Hmmm Perez loves Batman and said he would be there if asked.

I just found the next artist for All Star Batman & Robin AFTER his Brave & The Bold Stint and whenever he finishes Games

Frank Miller still won't be done with issue 8

greenflameuk
09-10-2006, 10:29 AM
The cover for Justice League of America #5 looks suggestive.

Who's that defending Ralph?

I think thats The Perfect Physician from the Great 10.

Chris
09-10-2006, 10:48 AM
I really really like 52. I know it's asking a lot of the creators, but I'd love to have it continue somehow, or at least the format, after 52 is over. I enjoy having a weekly fix of a book that keeps me consistently entertained.



Chris

Hobowatcher
09-10-2006, 10:52 AM
I really really like 52. I know it's asking a lot of the creators, but I'd love to have it continue somehow, or at least the format, after 52 is over. I enjoy having a weekly fix of a book that keeps me consistently entertained.



Chris
*cough*2000AD*cough* The way they have it set up, its the perfect weekly vehicle for stories.

I'm aslo sad that the Dweller is Aquaman. But from past knowledge of Atlantean magic, I'm pretty sure he will get changed back sooner or later. But I'm enjoying this book, and from their description (and my thoughts as well) the title seems that it would be a better read when collected, hopefully in one large chunk rather than six issue trades.

Hobowatcher
09-10-2006, 10:57 AM
Frank Miller still won't be done with issue 8
Why do people continue to blame Miller for the book being late?

Batman1983
09-10-2006, 11:00 AM
Because we can... But I know its as much Lee as Miller... they keep passing the buck back and forth and they're both involved heavily in other media (Lee in video game and Miller in movies). Ultimately it came down to me not wanting to go back and edit my post.

Punchy
09-10-2006, 11:02 AM
Not Amazo!

Blech!

Ace 52 cover though.

Deadshot77
09-10-2006, 11:02 AM
YES! Amazo! I had a feeling they were going to use Red Tornado's body to bring him back!

Could Mark Waid have been hinting Mon-EL is Supernova?

BleachBubble
09-10-2006, 11:09 AM
Because we can... But I know its as much Lee as Miller... they keep passing the buck back and forth and they're both involved heavily in other media (Lee in video game and Miller in movies). Ultimately it came down to me not wanting to go back and edit my post.

Yet you took the time to answer another post. odd.

Sean Walsh
09-10-2006, 11:09 AM
The villain on that JLA cover looks like.............




SUPER SKRULL!!! :D :p

Super4Ever
09-10-2006, 11:23 AM
Could Mark Waid have been hinting Mon-EL is Supernova?


Actually, a figure highly resembling Mon-El was shown on an upcoming Legion issue cover in the last solicitations.

Ace
09-10-2006, 11:24 AM
If I had to guess I'd say the new Super Chief is protecting Ralph, because he is coming, you know, but I have no idea.

Deadshot77
09-10-2006, 11:34 AM
Actually, a figure highly resembling Mon-El was shown on an upcoming Legion issue cover in the last solicitations.

http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=6318
Hmmm, Mon-El certainly looks like he is going Supernova on that cover, too. ;)
And some strange similarities in appearance...

I still have a feeling Supernova will turn out to be a bad guy anyways, so with
Mon-El's possible appearance in Legion(& what Waid was probably REALLY referring to), it's more than likely Supernova is a poser.
But never rule anything out...

canugrok
09-10-2006, 11:43 AM
Some great "answers" from the panel:

Didio is a fan of Metal Men and Adam Strange...so..they said yes to a MM mini, and maybe Adam won't be biting the dust. Just probably staying in space (with Animal Man finding religion?).

Kitson: IRON MAIDEN

Busiek: reading Usagi; wanting to write a Kamandi series.

More Western(s): me, I want a Bat Lash mini...with Aragones back in the saddle.

Blackhawwwwkkkkkkkkk.

ok..calm now

Stanfield
09-10-2006, 11:48 AM
Actually, a figure highly resembling Mon-El was shown on an upcoming Legion issue cover in the last solicitations.

No denying that #24 has a very Mon-Elish feel to it, but one of the key points to Lar's character is his 1,000 year stint in the Phanton Zone... so he could still be Supernova AND coming back in the main book...

ME5
09-10-2006, 12:23 PM
Hello.

To Dan Didio: Let Lee move into his other projects, fire Miller, and have Johns join Perez on ASB&R so that the flagship title of your All Star Line can finally live up to its name. Come on, Perez clearly stated he would do it!

Perez: I love Batman, and would be there if they asked

So ASK him, already, and save ASB&R from Miller! PLEASE!

Be Well...:)

nafannataz
09-10-2006, 12:24 PM
If I had to guess I'd say the new Super Chief is protecting Ralph, because he is coming, you know, but I have no idea.

It's Perfect Physician of the Great Ten on the cover

Xero
09-10-2006, 12:33 PM
That's "Accomplished Perfect Physician" to you sir, he didn't spend all those years going to Accomplished Physician school so that you could drop the title off of his name.

Accomplished Perfect Physician is one of the greatest comic book names ever.

Munch
09-10-2006, 12:49 PM
One of the things I’ve been proven wrong about

That's rich. To be Dan DiDiot is to be wrong about seven things before getting out of bed in the morning. The real question is, what HASN'T this pantload been proven wrong about?

Kolimar
09-10-2006, 12:54 PM
Perez: If I have to choose, it would probably be Wonder Woman, because it did so much for my career and it has some of the sexiest fans I could ever imagine.

Waid: I’m changing my answer to Wonder Woman.

:D <wwwwww>

Master_Izzy
09-10-2006, 12:57 PM
Yetis are awsome.

Moriarty
09-10-2006, 01:01 PM
Not Amazo!

Blech!

Eh, depends on how Metzler handles it; perhaps, even take a page from Justice League in regards to the design (though the cover works against it).

dpg
09-10-2006, 01:09 PM
awwwww, the JLA had a sleep-over. How nice.

Kolimar
09-10-2006, 01:13 PM
Q: When will see the Blackhawks return?

Didio: The one genre we haven’t gotten into deeply yet other than with Joe Kubert’s Sgt. Rock miniseries, are the war books. We’re starting to look at them, and if we do, Blackhawk will be part of that.

Q: Will there be more titles like Jonah Hex coming?

Didio: More Westerns are coming your way.

Yessss... :D :) :)

SupermanL
09-10-2006, 01:18 PM
No denying that #24 has a very Mon-Elish feel to it, but one of the key points to Lar's character is his 1,000 year stint in the Phanton Zone... so he could still be Supernova AND coming back in the main book...

Supernova cannot be Mon-el. Due to the power-set being completely different. If Mon-el isn't on the cover of the November Legion book I will eat my words X 1000. In studying past threads, interviews and comic solits, we believe that it would be Light Ray.

flamebird867
09-10-2006, 01:27 PM
<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Baltimore/06/DC/52_Cv32_solicit.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Baltimore/06/DC/52_Cv32_solicit_t.jpg" border="0" align="right"></a>

<b>Q</b>: Why is there a Yeti on cover of <b>52</b>?

<b>JG Jones</b>: (Banging on table) Because Yetis are awesome!

LOL:D :D :) ;)

Jeffrey D. Smith
09-10-2006, 01:38 PM
When Perez talked about Wonder Woman and how he would see beautiful women at cons dressed up as Wonder Woman, one of the other panelists asked with mock concern, "Are you still seeing them, George? Are there any in this room now?"

Toygeek
09-10-2006, 01:45 PM
Who's that defending Ralph?

Best guess? The Yeti is there because Ralph's on his way to Nanda Parbat, which they've said is coming up in the book. We know it's not Deadman (unless he's inhabiting someone), and the only other "named" character I can think of offhand with a connection to the place is Judomaster. Who died at the end of Infinite Crisis.

So I say it's the new Judomaster. Because if Booster can be a legacy character...

Also, did anybody notice that in the DC Nation panel, it was mentioned that Adam Strange is going to appear in Brave and the Bold? Assuming that it's not set in the past, that means he survives. Since DC went on their big "redundancy" kick, it looks like they decided that Vixen was the only one they needed with those type of powers (stupid cartoon), so I think Buddy's days may be numbered. I don't know if they'll kill two, but I do think something bad's gonna happen to Kory. With Blackfire being more of a "space" threat now, they don't need the Titans to put her into a story any more.

Besides, I'm not sure she's the only Tamaranian on earth any more. I think Grace from Outsiders is one too.

tunabeard
09-10-2006, 02:40 PM
<b>Busiek</b>: Plus Jonah Hex is joining the legion next month.



What is the connection between Jonah Hex and St. Roch?

Drcharles
09-10-2006, 02:58 PM
<b>Q</b>: Future plans for <b>Aquaman</b>?

<b>Busiek</b>: Every issue gets better. The setup for <b>Aquaman</b> is hopefully something that will read like a big, sprawling fantasy novel. This is not six issues and everything returns to normal, and it will never fully return to what it was before, but that’s not saying that what you want to see happen won’t happen.

<b>Q</b>: How long will the Dweller of the Deep’s identity be a mystery?

<b>Busiek</b>: I thought we answered it in the first issue – the last panel where we showed that he had a water hand was a giveaway. In the next two issues, anyone who didn’t get it will realize that the previous Aquaman is the Dweller. It’s not meant to be a mystery to the readers, but it is to the characters.



Damn,
How on Earth Did I miss that ?
What a pratt.............

I have really high hopes for Aquaman, its a brilliant series......Love it.

Deadshot77
09-10-2006, 03:08 PM
Supernova cannot be Mon-el. Due to the power-set being completely different. If Mon-el isn't on the cover of the November Legion book I will eat my words X 1000. In studying past threads, interviews and comic solits, we believe that it would be Light Ray.

You know everything about Supernova already? lol.
Good for the "we" & Lightray guess, which if the new gods come down to affect everything in 52, that would be a good guess.
However it seems a pretty obvious choice at this point due to powers shown(to this point), but I'd be both disappointed & surprised if they go with the obvious.
If the new gods turned into a neutral party or mostly villains by the end of 52, then Lightray infiltrating earth's heroes ranks will make sense.

Seeing a deleted/alternate ending page of 52 had Supernova accidentally "teleporting"(not speeds of lights) Booster Gold to his death, another good place to look for clues would be in the list of teleporters in the DCU rather than looking at Lightray...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=teleporter+DC+Comi cs

Deadshot77
09-10-2006, 03:12 PM
[QUOTE=Toygeek] We know it's not Deadman (unless he's inhabiting someone), and the only other "named" character I can think of offhand with a connection to the place is Judomaster. Who died at the end of Infinite Crisis.

I don't think he died, but his back was broken, obviously.
So there can be a new one or he healed(best he could) or was healed.
IF it is him, that is.

malshnut
09-10-2006, 03:16 PM
WOw. Kurt Busiek just had the best and most understandable characterization of Hal Jordan ever. I think if he was written more this way, the whole "fearless" thing would be much less boring.

CodeGuy
09-10-2006, 03:37 PM
That's rich. To be Dan DiDiot is to be wrong about seven things before getting out of bed in the morning. The real question is, what HASN'T this pantload been proven wrong about?

Please don't bash the guy for admitting that he was wrong. Bash him when he won't admit that he's wrong, then praise him when he does. We want to train him to do it more often, after all.

God-Man
09-10-2006, 03:42 PM
Amazooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

CodeGuy
09-10-2006, 03:42 PM
I have looked into my crystal ball and seen the future of 52 threads.

Week 25: "Supernova is Steel."
Week 30: "Supernova is Commander Steel."
Week 35: "Supernova is Ted Kord."
Week 40: "Supernova is the original Dove from Hawk and Dove."
Week 45: "Supernova is Extant."
Week 50: "Supernova is Dan Garret, the original Blue Beetle."
Week 52: "Oh my god, I can't believe Supernova turned out to be Elvis."

immortus
09-10-2006, 04:02 PM
I assume Supernova will end up like Hush or Ronin where it's "I don't care anymore, the character sucks, kill him off or something".

Justin M. Campbell
09-10-2006, 04:32 PM
That's "Accomplished Perfect Physician" to you sir, he didn't spend all those years going to Accomplished Physician school so that you could drop the title off of his name.

Accomplished Perfect Physician is one of the greatest comic book names ever.

Now that raises a question:

Why would Accomplished Perfect Physician, a superhero in a country that has signed Black Adam's "Freedom of Powers" treaty, be protecting rather than attacking an est. American Hero (Elongated Man) who's carrying a sigul of another est. American Hero (Dr. Fate). Does no stretch = no hero? Does the treaty not apply to the mystics of the DCU?

And, again, the larger question of that whole story: How do these heroes react to American civilians in their country? Do they protect them as well, or do they leave them to die, telling them to find an American Hero to help them?

Wright Blan
09-10-2006, 05:05 PM
Now that raises a question:

Why would Accomplished Perfect Physician, a superhero in a country that has signed Black Adam's "Freedom of Powers" treaty, be protecting rather than attacking an est. American Hero (Elongated Man) who's carrying a sigul of another est. American Hero (Dr. Fate). Does no stretch = no hero? Does the treaty not apply to the mystics of the DCU?



Because a Physician has a duty to save human lives.

Uh, the Chinese do use the Hipocratic Oath, don't they?:confused: Or at least have a counterpart. Otherwise, I just said something way stupid.

Wright Blan
09-10-2006, 05:06 PM
Supernova cannot be Mon-el. Due to the power-set being completely different. If Mon-el isn't on the cover of the November Legion book I will eat my words X 1000. In studying past threads, interviews and comic solits, we believe that it would be Light Ray.

Yeah, I hope it's Mon-EL, but I fear a major psych-out coming. My alternate pick is Lightning Lord, btw.

protege
09-10-2006, 05:18 PM
Okay- let's see if i can remember all the points i want to make THIS time...
1) How can Dick Grayson get older than Batman, if Batman's never really going to age? this is a problem with virtually all the Titans- You introduce newer, younger sidekicks to the big seven, or whatever, and the previous ones become obsolete- that's the big problem with Donna Troy- She's never going to take over as Wonder Woman, and she's never been able to develop her own identity- at least not one that lasted for very long. Wally west was the only one to successfully break the mold- I suppose Arsenal too- But i wonder why the Flash legacy is so much more mallable than any of the others.
2) Hal Jordan is the anti Batman- I like this statement- it explains so much. I really like seeing these two together- the juxtaposition of the two. maybe DC should relaunch World's Finest with Bats and GL.
3) Why is Jason Todd's story being fleshed out in Green Arrow, of all places?
4) Ralph as Dr Fate? Hal Jordan as the Spectre went over like a lead balloon, so i can't imagine why anyone would think this is a good idea- if in fact, that's where they're going with this...

Justin M. Campbell
09-10-2006, 05:23 PM
Okay- let's see if i can remember all the points i want to make THIS time...
1) How can Dick Grayson get older than Batman, if Batman's never really going to age? this is a problem with virtually all the Titans- You introduce newer, younger sidekicks to the big seven, or whatever, and the previous ones become obsolete- that's the big problem with Donna Troy- She's never going to take over as Wonder Woman, and she's never been able to develop her own identity- at least not one that lasted for very long. Wally west was the only one to successfully break the mold- I suppose Arsenal too- But i wonder why the Flash legacy is so much more mallable than any of the others.
2) Hal Jordan is the anti Batman- I like this statement- it explains so much. I really like seeing these two together- the juxtaposition of the two. maybe DC should relaunch World's Finest with Bats and GL.
3) Why is Jason Todd's story being fleshed out in Green Arrow, of all places?
4) Ralph as Dr Fate? Hal Jordan as the Spectre went over like a lead balloon, so i can't imagine why anyone would think this is a good idea- if in fact, that's where they're going with this...

To answer some of these:
1) The Flash legacy works because while the Flash name is fairly recent, there have been superspeedsters for centuries, dating back in the U.S. as far as the late 1700-mid 1800s (Max Mercury), so a superspeed leagacy predates most of the modern heroes.
3) Jason Todd's story is being played out in Green Arrow because Judd Winick got thrown on his ass out of the Batman books, & had to tell the story somewhere.
4) Ralph might not BE Dr. Fate, but don't you think he's a good enough detective that he could FIND the next Dr. Fate if put on the path?

protege
09-10-2006, 05:23 PM
It's Perfect Physician of the Great Ten on the cover
I think they should rename her "Doctor Alpaca."...

Justin M. Campbell
09-10-2006, 05:25 PM
I think they should rename her "Doctor Alpaca."...

Accomplished Perfect Physician is a dude.

& just because he's called "Accomplished Perfect Physician" doesn't mean he's a doctor, so the Hippocratic Oath may not apply, to address a point you brought up earlier.

Wellness
09-10-2006, 05:29 PM
Damn,
How on Earth Did I miss that ?
What a pratt.............

I have really high hopes for Aquaman, its a brilliant series......Love it.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I just thought it was red herring, I should have expected this from the mind behind the Thunderbolts, but still a woah moment.

I can only imagine how he would react to the shocked face I had when I read that was what he said.

JamesMallone
09-10-2006, 05:38 PM
Accomplished Perfect Physician is a dude.

& just because he's called "Accomplished Perfect Physician" doesn't mean he's a doctor, so the Hippocratic Oath may not apply, to address a point you brought up earlier.

Hmm, that brings up a good question. Do you have to be a doctor to use "Doctor" in your super hero/super villain name? I mean sure they don't have to, since most villains are hypocratic and irrational by nature, but almost all of the time they do. Even Doctor Strange was a surgeon before he became the Sorcerer Supreme.

Justin M. Campbell
09-10-2006, 05:42 PM
Hmm, that brings up a good question. Do you have to be a doctor to use "Doctor" in your super hero/super villain name? I mean sure they don't have to, since most villains are hypocratic and irrational by nature, but almost all of the time they do. Even Doctor Strange was a surgeon before he became the Sorcerer Supreme.

Just because a villian holds a doctorate doesn't mean much. Look @ Dr. Laura. Yeah, she has a doctorate. In English.

Plus, there are doctorates in other scientific disciplines besides medicine.

There's the doctorate in robotics, engineering, chemistry, biochemistry, etc. All of which could be put to nefarious ends.

Crusader K
09-10-2006, 06:17 PM
<b>Q</b>: With Richard Donner on <b>Action</b>, will we see a General Zod like the one from <i>Superman II</i>?

<b>Busiek</b>: Yes.



Yes. Yes! YES!!!!

The return of the one, TRUE Zod!!

As long as he's not wearing that purple costume with the wannabe military hat! Course, even THAT would be an improvement over the gasmask wearing, red armored poser that was in the Superman books a few years ago.

Hobowatcher
09-10-2006, 06:22 PM
Just because a villian holds a doctorate doesn't mean much. Look @ Dr. Laura. Yeah, she has a doctorate. In English.

Plus, there are doctorates in other scientific disciplines besides medicine.

There's the doctorate in robotics, engineering, chemistry, biochemistry, etc. All of which could be put to nefarious ends.
Like Dr. Laura.

Hobowatcher
09-10-2006, 06:25 PM
I have looked into my crystal ball and seen the future of 52 threads.

Week 25: "Supernova is Steel."
Week 30: "Supernova is Commander Steel."
Week 35: "Supernova is Ted Kord."
Week 40: "Supernova is the original Dove from Hawk and Dove."
Week 45: "Supernova is Extant."
Week 50: "Supernova is Dan Garret, the original Blue Beetle."
Week 52: "Oh my god, I can't believe Supernova turned out to be Elvis."
I have my money on Don Rickles.

Justin M. Campbell
09-10-2006, 06:29 PM
Like Dr. Laura.

Yes. <aaaa>

Street Carp
09-10-2006, 06:57 PM
Hello.

To Dan Didio: Let Lee move into his other projects, fire Miller, and have Johns join Perez on ASB&R so that the flagship title of your All Star Line can finally live up to its name. Come on, Perez clearly stated he would do it!



So ASK him, already, and save ASB&R from Miller! PLEASE!

Be Well...:)

I second this motion! :)

(ian)

kcekada
09-10-2006, 07:39 PM
Busiek: The Galactic Golem, just ‘cause he looks so cool

Hell yeah, he's cool!

Please bring him back!! He was the few vpre-Crisis illains who could actually go toe-to-toe with Superman. In fact, I think he was actually more powerful than Supes. Plus, he just looks freakin' fantastic.

I want an action figure --- and his return post haste!!!

dlfurman
09-10-2006, 08:09 PM
Best guess? The Yeti is there because Ralph's on his way to Nanda Parbat, which they've said is coming up in the book. We know it's not Deadman (unless he's inhabiting someone), and the only other "named" character I can think of offhand with a connection to the place is Judomaster. Who died at the end of Infinite Crisis.

So I say it's the new Judomaster. Because if Booster can be a legacy character...

Also, did anybody notice that in the DC Nation panel, it was mentioned that Adam Strange is going to appear in Brave and the Bold? Assuming that it's not set in the past, that means he survives. Since DC went on their big "redundancy" kick, it looks like they decided that Vixen was the only one they needed with those type of powers (stupid cartoon), so I think Buddy's days may be numbered. I don't know if they'll kill two, but I do think something bad's gonna happen to Kory. With Blackfire being more of a "space" threat now, they don't need the Titans to put her into a story any more.

Besides, I'm not sure she's the only Tamaranian on earth any more. I think Grace from Outsiders is one too.

I think Animal Man does not return to Earth because he joins Lobo's church.

caleb
09-10-2006, 08:31 PM
So I say it's the new Judomaster. Because if Booster can be a legacy character...
.

Judomaster is a legacy character, or will soon be. The cover of Birds of Prey #100 has a picture of a female Judomaster on the cover...

As for Booster, is he truly a legacy character now, or a "pre-gacy" character, since his follower predates him chronologically...? Hmmm...

CitC
09-10-2006, 09:49 PM
The first Composite Superman story is probably my favourite Comic story ever. I had it in a digest years and years ago, but it is long gone now. I keep checking the Archie Digests at used book stores in hopes of finding it again.

Also: YetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYeti YetiYetiYeti!! (which, as you know if you have young children that watch the Backyardigans, is how you call a Yeti).

Justin M. Campbell
09-10-2006, 10:50 PM
The first Composite Superman story is probably my favourite Comic story ever. I had it in a digest years and years ago, but it is long gone now. I keep checking the Archie Digests at used book stores in hopes of finding it again.

Also: YetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYeti YetiYetiYeti!! (which, as you know if you have young children that watch the Backyardigans, is how you call a Yeti).

I don't have a young child but I do have a young niece. Thanks for the laugh.

We-e're your friends
The Backyardigans!

Good show for li'l kids, but it can't top the sheer WTF?-ness of LazyTown.

beta-ray
09-11-2006, 12:21 AM
The villain on that JLA cover looks like.............




SUPER SKRULL!!! :D :p

That's funny, I thought the same thing! :D

Proud Texan
09-11-2006, 01:06 AM
Just because a villian holds a doctorate doesn't mean much. Look @ Dr. Laura. Yeah, she has a doctorate. In English.

Plus, there are doctorates in other scientific disciplines besides medicine.

There's the doctorate in robotics, engineering, chemistry, biochemistry, etc. All of which could be put to nefarious ends.

There is a great scene early in the JSA comic when Dr. Midnite first shows up and helps Black Canary. She is shocked to find out that he was actually a medical Doctor! :D

Another actual Doctor would be Kimyo Hoshi - Dr. Light.


As for the JLA cover...am I the only one thinking Prometheus? Look at the goofy earpieces, the large gauntlets on the arms...

Stormbreaker
09-11-2006, 01:09 AM
Um...doesn't that JLA cover spoil some of Meltzer's roster choices, such as Hawkgirl? At least, it looks like Hawkgirl. It could be a really skinny Hawkman, but Turner's never drawn anyone too skinny...right...? ;-D And yes, yetis are pretty sweet.

POWRSURG
09-11-2006, 01:34 AM
Hmm, that brings up a good question. Do you have to be a doctor to use "Doctor" in your super hero/super villain name? I mean sure they don't have to, since most villains are hypocratic and irrational by nature, but almost all of the time they do. Even Doctor Strange was a surgeon before he became the Sorcerer Supreme.

Didn't Dr. Doom get kicked out of academia before he finished college? I'm pretty sure he never actually got his doctorate.

Mithel
09-11-2006, 02:07 AM
JLA villian is obviously Thanos.

Also, if DC kills off Adam Strange, I'm boycotting.

8thSamurai
09-11-2006, 02:37 AM
It looks like a 10 year old did that JLA cover. Stop giving Michael Turner work, DC.

Bloodmage
09-11-2006, 06:05 AM
Okay- let's see if i can remember all the points i want to make THIS time...
1) How can Dick Grayson get older than Batman, if Batman's never really going to age? this is a problem with virtually all the Titans- You introduce newer, younger sidekicks to the big seven, or whatever, and the previous ones become obsolete- that's the big problem with Donna Troy- She's never going to take over as Wonder Woman, and she's never been able to develop her own identity- at least not one that lasted for very long. Wally west was the only one to successfully break the mold- I suppose Arsenal too- But i wonder why the Flash legacy is so much more mallable than any of the others.
2) Hal Jordan is the anti Batman- I like this statement- it explains so much. I really like seeing these two together- the juxtaposition of the two. maybe DC should relaunch World's Finest with Bats and GL.
3) Why is Jason Todd's story being fleshed out in Green Arrow, of all places?
4) Ralph as Dr Fate? Hal Jordan as the Spectre went over like a lead balloon, so i can't imagine why anyone would think this is a good idea- if in fact, that's where they're going with this...

1) Superman and Batman can't be replaced because their origins are iconic. Dick can never be Bruce because Bruce didn't have a sympathetic ear when he lost his parents. Alfred could console him, but he couldn't be in Bruce's emotional state because he never had it happen to him. Bruce didn't have the Titans when he was growing up, he didn't have a Barbara Gordon type love-interest who could relate to him. Superman is the last Kryptonian. Superboy couldn't have replaced him, as the origins are too difficult to pass along.

Aquaman on the other hand, could easily have been surpassed by Tempest, though Busiek has done a good job with the new Aquaman. And Arsenal/Connor Hawke could eventually replace Ollie. Hell, Black Canary could pass along the fishnets to another young girl. But the World's Finest are iconic.

Jeremy Williams
09-11-2006, 06:31 AM
Nightwing is probably one of my favorite character but I have to side with Dan Didio here in saying that it was the right moment for Nightwing to die.

First because you needed that big death to spark everything and Blue Beetle wasn`t "it". Second it would have fit admirably with what happened next considering how important Batman was to the whole Brother Eye angle. Third, Nightwing as a character as nowhere else to go. The only thing left it`s for him to take on the Batman mantle but the current DC regime wasn`t willing to replace Bruce. He`s been side-kick, then part-time hanging out with other side-kicks, then part of his own super-hero team, then leaders of super-heroes. Then Chuck Dixon made him a lone urban crime vigilante. At this point in time, there were two things left for him, go to the magors and lead JLA or become the next Batman. Since DC is not willing to do either, there`s already a Robin so he can`t go back to that. They`re trying to give Dick some spark by teaming him up with his Titans creator Marv Wolfman, but I think it`s a little too late because the character has hit the ceiling in term of growth and fans are not stupid; they realise that. It will take a lot for Nightwing to excite people again and spend the money every months on his comic.

Didio shouldn`t have chikened out. The traditionalists in DC are still hurting the company in 2006.

Jeremy Williams
09-11-2006, 07:17 AM
WOw. Kurt Busiek just had the best and most understandable characterization of Hal Jordan ever. I think if he was written more this way, the whole "fearless" thing would be much less boring.

Somehow Waid in a mini-series introduced the idea that what made Hal Jordan tick was "he doesn`t have fear", then all the other writers have thrown that thing aorund like it was the company line and it`s become the only thing Hal is good for. I think this concept is crap, it`s made up, it`s phony as Hell and it`s limiting a human being to a set of attributes. Guess what Hal is a human being-albeit a courageous one-but he fears as many things as anybody. It reminds me of another retcon when Christ Priest said that Black Panther was in the Avengers at first to spy on them. It may have sounded cool for that particular story Priest was doing, but it doesn`t have to be true. It`s just how that writer sees the character. Fine. But the rest of us don`t have to have it choked down our throats time after time after time.

Barry Strange
09-11-2006, 08:53 AM
I was one of those who voted Jason Todd dead in the '80's--I want my 50 cents back, with interest. Didio, contact me!

Batman1983
09-11-2006, 09:29 AM
See winick voted for him to live, so he gets the ok to resurrect the bastard... don't worry someday someone like you or me will work for DC and put him down.

IvCNuB4
09-11-2006, 10:12 AM
Um...doesn't that JLA cover spoil some of Meltzer's roster choices, such as Hawkgirl? At least, it looks like Hawkgirl. It could be a really skinny Hawkman, but Turner's never drawn anyone too skinny...right...? ;-D And yes, yetis are pretty sweet.

Ahhhh, so you were the one person who didn't read JLoA # 1 ;) ...........

Toygeek
09-11-2006, 10:44 AM
Judomaster is a legacy character, or will soon be. The cover of Birds of Prey #100 has a picture of a female Judomaster on the cover...

Oops...good catch. Don't know how I missed that one.

Though it just makes me all the more worried about what's gonna happen to The Question in 52. It seems like DC is replacing all the Charlton characters with "new guys". Most famously, our new Blue Beetle; but apparantly that other guy that just popped up in Blue Beetle is the new Peacekeeper. Captain Atom's got something going on with Monarch. And then there's this new Judomaster.Vic and Sarge Steel are really the only guys left.

To me, it just adds more to the "Montoya as Question" rumor...which makes me sad, as he's been one of my favorites for years.

adamania
09-11-2006, 10:47 AM
Eclipso. Bwaahaaahaa!!!!!

protege
09-11-2006, 11:35 AM
Nightwing is probably one of my favorite character but I have to side with Dan Didio here in saying that it was the right moment for Nightwing to die.

First because you needed that big death to spark everything and Blue Beetle wasn`t "it". Second it would have fit admirably with what happened next considering how important Batman was to the whole Brother Eye angle. Third, Nightwing as a character as nowhere else to go. The only thing left it`s for him to take on the Batman mantle but the current DC regime wasn`t willing to replace Bruce. He`s been side-kick, then part-time hanging out with other side-kicks, then part of his own super-hero team, then leaders of super-heroes. Then Chuck Dixon made him a lone urban crime vigilante. At this point in time, there were two things left for him, go to the magors and lead JLA or become the next Batman. Since DC is not willing to do either, there`s already a Robin so he can`t go back to that. They`re trying to give Dick some spark by teaming him up with his Titans creator Marv Wolfman, but I think it`s a little too late because the character has hit the ceiling in term of growth and fans are not stupid; they realise that. It will take a lot for Nightwing to excite people again and spend the money every months on his comic.

Didio shouldn`t have chikened out. The traditionalists in DC are still hurting the company in 2006.
What about the trinity? Do you think they've reached the ceiling in terms of growth potential?

khuxford
09-11-2006, 12:35 PM
Q: How long will the Dweller of the Deep’s identity be a mystery?

Busiek: I thought we answered it in the first issue – the last panel where we showed that he had a water hand was a giveaway. In the next two issues, anyone who didn’t get it will realize that the previous Aquaman is the Dweller. It’s not meant to be a mystery to the readers, but it is to the characters.

It was also demonstrated basically that it is Aquaman and why the change happened in the latest issue of 52, for those interested...

And, man, those are some nice covers. I imagine everyone knows the whited out character on the JLofA cover is Amazo, especially given Brad's love for old school. :)

RooJay
09-12-2006, 11:04 AM
The first Composite Superman story is probably my favourite Comic story ever. I had it in a digest years and years ago, but it is long gone now. I keep checking the Archie Digests at used book stores in hopes of finding it again.

Also: YetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYetiYeti YetiYetiYeti!! (which, as you know if you have young children that watch the Backyardigans, is how you call a Yeti).

I have neither young children nor a young niece, but I too know how to call a Yeti! That show is awesome! So pleasant and soothing.

...and no I am not kidding!

On a separate note - Boy, it sure is a good thing we had all those smart guys working at DC to save our Nightwing from Dan Didio! WheeeeeW! Thanks guys!

RooJay
09-12-2006, 11:10 AM
Somehow Waid in a mini-series introduced the idea that what made Hal Jordan tick was "he doesn`t have fear", then all the other writers have thrown that thing aorund like it was the company line and it`s become the only thing Hal is good for. I think this concept is crap, it`s made up, it`s phony as Hell and it`s limiting a human being to a set of attributes. Guess what Hal is a human being-albeit a courageous one-but he fears as many things as anybody. It reminds me of another retcon when Christ Priest said that Black Panther was in the Avengers at first to spy on them. It may have sounded cool for that particular story Priest was doing, but it doesn`t have to be true. It`s just how that writer sees the character. Fine. But the rest of us don`t have to have it choked down our throats time after time after time.

Umm, yeah...I don't know about that one. I'm looking at my Showcase Presents Green Lantern volume and it says right here on page nine (and I quote Abin Sur here) 'And the battery has already selected you as one born without fear!' It's right there in his origin directly from his first appearance. Seems that's been a feature of the character from the very beginning. I know Marc Waid is a little old, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't even writing comics back then, and besides it says at the front of the book that the story was written by John Broome.