Ledger on the joker

[caats19]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=16411

it's small but i guess the main parts are that it is the darker sinister joker. not the laughy jack nickelson. which i think we all figured it'd be

[avengingtitan]

Which is a great thing. Jacks Joker was horrible.

[Hobowatcher]

He seems to understand the character.

I still think Williams would have been perfect. He has the chops to pull of both aspects perfectly.

[avengingtitan]

He seems to understand the character.

I still think Williams would have been perfect. He has the chops to pull of both aspects perfectly.
Yea but he'd be to old.

[BatWolverine]

Yea but he'd be to old.
Makeup anyone? :p

[kratos390]

He seems to understand the character.

I still think Williams would have been perfect. He has the chops to pull of both aspects perfectly.

I think so too. Williams would have fit perfectly.

[Hobowatcher]

I picture the joker to be about 10-15 years older than Batman, and Williams sure has that. And besides if Ian McKellan can star in a movie about Magneto's WWII days, I think they can use Williams just fine.

[avengingtitan]

Makeup anyone? :p
It didnt work for nickelson.

[BatWolverine]

It didnt work for nickelson.
The Joker is supposed to look BAD. He is NOT a runway model. :D

[avengingtitan]

The Joker is supposed to look BAD. He is NOT a runway model. :D
Good point but I stand by my theory that Williams is too old.

Personally I see the Joker as around the same age as Batman.

[mookie blaylock]

I saw Heath Ledger today (he's in town for the film fest) I did not get a chance to go up and bug the hell out of him with Batman related questions. Next time, however, I'll try and get a scoop.

[nolanjwerner]

Nicholson's Joker was terrible.

If this were 10 years ago or so (probably more like 15) I'd have been totally behind Robin Williams. But I agree, he is way too old now. He might, however, be a good mastermind type bad guy.

I still think they should have gone with Will Arnett though. And I'll stand by that unless Ledger proves me wrong.

[samnoir]

It's too bad that Crispen Glover is too old for the part now.

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/8993/cglover1-1.gif

I think he would have been perfect for the part. Paricularly if they are going to be adapting his origin from Alan Moore and Brian Bolland's The Killing Joke.

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[cynic79]

I actually think Ledger will be able to pull it off, but I was really pulling for Adrien Brody to get the part.

[d0dg3r]

He's a little more high profile than I'd like, but Ledger should be fine. And since Nolan will be directing again, I'll probably be very happy with the overall take on the character.

The biggest problem I had with Jack Nicholson as the Joker is that it's been at least 30 years since the audience can see him in a movie as anyone but :D JACK:cool: NICHOLSON:D . I'd have the same problem with Robin Williams now.

[RogueSmurf6]

I totally agree. Robin Williams is too famous. He wouldn't be the Joker, he'd be "Robin Williams as the Joker".

Back with the old movies, I always thought he'd make a good Mad Hatter...at least back with the old movies, when they were okay with the villians being instantly recognizable as their stars.

[Wingman]

I'm interested that he mentioned "A Clockwork Orange" as an influence for the character.

I'd never thought of it before, but it seems like a solid place to build The Joker from.
Alex (If I'm remembering his name correctly) is definately one of the more entertaining sociopaths in movie history- fun too.

[Cal-La]

I actually think Ledger will knock it out the park. Williams is indeed too old for the part. This is Batman in the early years and this film will be Joker's debut in Gotham. It wouldn't make sense if in his debut he looks like he's only got a good 5 years left before he's too old to be chased around by Bats.

Anyone think they'll introduce Robin before this franchise is done? I'm kinda nervously curious.

[d0dg3r]

Anyone think they'll introduce Robin before this franchise is done? I'm kinda nervously curious.

I hope not. I don't think there's any way they could do it that wouldn't cause problems. Robin's a character that can work in the comics and cartoons very well, but as soon as you put a live kid onscreen in that situation it's very hard to avoid the camp factor on the one hand or what amounts to child endangerment on the other. If you make it an older Robin then the whole father/son relationship is lost.

That's not to say it's utterly impossible, but it's one hell of a challenge. There's no reason you couldn't have Bruce adopt an orphaned Dick Grayson who might lend a hand in the cave, analyze evidence, and be training to one day become Batman's apprentice. But if you have a fourteen year old boy in hand-to-hand combat with sociopaths with Bruce's consent, the carefully laid sense of "heightened reality" Nolan's working in goes *poof*.

[KyleCowstar]

Sounds good to me.

[Ogmios22188]

It would probably be better if Robin were older. Not as old as Chris O'Donnell, but older than 12. I mean, Bruce and Dick are like, 15 years apart at the most, so age has nothing to do with their father-son relationship. I mean, Bruce just turned 30 in Batman Begins when he started running around as Batman, so, if The Dark Knight takes place right where the first one left off, a 15- or 16-year old Robin, even 17- or 18- would work fine. I firmly believe it could be done without being campy.

[Black Beetle]

I think Ledger will do fine, probably even great.


And if done right, I wouldn't mind having Robin in one of the sequels.

[DeadAsWarhol]

i was looking at a picture of brad dourif as billy bibbit(sp?) in "one flew over the cuckoo's nest" and i think he could have made a good joker, at least lookswise. back in the day.

i also noticed that Little Nell(columbia from Rocky Horror) would have made a good harley quinn

[Ogmios22188]

I'm sure he'll do really well, now that I'm thinking about it. But isn't he just a little too much on the pretty side? I mean, I'm assuming we'll see him before his chemical bath.

[ST0RM SHAD0W]

I don't really think he gets the comic Joker. He's supossed to be Batman's opposite. I think he's a great actor, so I think he'll get it right. Maybe he just hasn't gotten down to doing the homework on Joker yet or read the script, so I'm not worried.