AXEL ALONSO NAMED NEW X-MEN GROUP EDITOR

[MattBrady]

In chatting with readers on his blog ( http://www.mikecarey.net/?p=101#comments) <b>X-Men</b> writer Mike Carey has quietly made it clear that Axel Alonso has assumed the duties of X-Men Group Editor, replacing Mike Marts, who recently moved to DC Comics.

Both Marvel and Alonso have confirmed this for Newsarama, which adds another tier on to Alonso’s already hefty list of titles – officially now, he is an Executive Editor, as well as Group Editor of the X-Men titles, Marvel Knights titles and MAX titles. In addition, Alonso also edits <b> Amazing Spider-Man, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider</b>, and <b>Punisher War Journal</b>. Assistant Editor Sean Ryan and Associate Editor Nick Lowe will remain on the X-titles.

Look for more from Alonso shortly, here at Newsarama.

[Billy Tucci]

Congratulations Axel! An excellent editor that will guide the X-Men to new heights and newer adventures.

Billy

[PreCrisisDC]

The X books are in more than capable hands, Alonso is in my opinion one of the better editors out there!!

[J.L.]

That's exciting.

I give it 2 weeks and people will be going "Mart's who?"

J.

[Ace]

I really really really really really don't like Alonso as an editor.

Really, really.

But if you're reading this, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't break things.

Everything is really good right now.

This is the best line up on 2 or 3 X-titles ever.

Whedon, Brubaker, Carey. They're all writing the X-Men as comics that are both great X-Men comics AND great comics at the same time.

As opposed to Morrison who wrote great comics but certainly not great X-Men comics or Claremont post 93 who wrote ok X-Men comics but pretty bad comics.

Just don't rock the boat. It's sailing as smoothly as it's sailed since Uncanny 281 came out.

[Johnny Smith]

wow!!!

Give Garth Ennis an X-Men title, pretty please :D

[The Marvel]

Does it seem Alonso is getting stretched a little thin? Marvel might look into getting him some help so he doesn't burn out.

I'm available, by the way...

[SpyGuy]

I hope this doesn't result in J. Michael Straczynski moving from AMAZING SPIDER-MAN to ASTONISHING X-MEN after Whedon & Cassaday end their run...

[Chris Daley]

Not that Axel would ever remember this, but while he was working at DC in the mid '90s he took some time out and talked to me about breaking into comics as an editor. He didn't know me from anyone (we had a mutual friend) but was great to talk to and gave me some great advice.

On top of that, his books kick.

[Darth Wahu]

Oh great the last sign of the Apocalypse! :(

[lordlad]

Although i'm not a X fan, the current X books (Astonishing, Uncanny, adjectiveless) have been really good...so no complain.

[clerk976]

Does it seem Alonso is getting stretched a little thin? Marvel might look into getting him some help so he doesn't burn out.


Axel has a great team around him in the other editors who were already working with Marts when Whedon, Brubaker, and Carey began flying high. I don't think there's anything to worry about, short of the crash of 2012.

[EyesBL7]

I hope this doesn't result in J. Michael Straczynski moving from AMAZING SPIDER-MAN to ASTONISHING X-MEN after Whedon & Cassaday end their run...


Shut your dirty mouth. Dont you EVER say that out loud again.:mad:

[theFRITZ]

Shut your dirty mouth. Dont you EVER say that out loud again.:mad:

Anything to get him off of ASM! Besides Astonishing has sucked from issue 7 on.

[Goat warrior]

He edits Amazing Spider-man ? Hum, we hace to fear for the worst then :(

[KyleCowstar]

Does he edit X-Factor now too?

[razorwing77]

I can't say I'm very excited about this.

The x-books have really been in a state of disarray for a long time, but they finally seem to have things together with Whedon, Brubaker, and Carey involved. I had dropped X-Men and UXM for the first time ever, but picked them back up with the new writers and I've been very happy so far.

The amount of MAX and MK books I buy right now are about at 0, and I think ASM has sucked eggs for the last 2 or 3 years. So obviously, Axel's books don't really appeal to me. So I just hope he stays the course for the time being.

[abiron]

Does he edit X-Factor now too?

X-Factor is one of Andy Schmidt pet projects so I doubt he would let it go. They surely talk to each other about coordinating stuff.

[Jed Saxon]

YAY! or MEH.? I can't really decide.

Yes, he brought a huge load of top creators to the Marvel Knights label and yes, they did awesome jobs there, BUT I fear that continuity takes even more a backseat than it already has.
Not that I'm a continuity whore like some other guys but a) Claws #1 left me confused (thanks to Mr. Linsner to clear that up on CBR by the way!) and b) I'm still waiting for an explanation of why Microship was suddenly alive only to be killed again.
These are screw-ups that may annoy me (but "Claws" was so good, it didn't really matter, but that Punisher thing... HUGE meh.).

And I hope that he doesn't remove any creator of any X-series (besides New X-Men), especially not Carey/Bachalo on Adjectivless (currently my favorite X core book).

[Kolimar]

Interesting news. Congratulations, Axel. :)

[Beyerstein]

Does Axel even know/care about X-Men?

[Layters]

Max MK, Moon Knight, Gr, Punisher and Amazing Spidey. Yay all the books I cant abide.

Possibly dark times ahead for the x-books.

From what I can recall Alonso was big behind all the worst of Nu Marvel. Bad pacing, reality based stories and ignoring continuity.

He did bring us X-Force/Statix but that was dire by the time it finished.

[mdhprime]

I think his first task should be to fix Astonishing. It is the most frustrating book to read and a great example of a good story which is really, really written poorly. I hope he pays attention to that title in particular because the others (Uncanny, X-Men) have been well done lately.

[protonik]

Great... just great.

[ALIEN_freak_jimbo]

Cool! Fingers crossed!
But as long as he doesn't push manga/anime robots onto the books (like Marts did with X-Men: Civil War #2 - Sentinels) I'll be happy!

[JoePruett]

Axel is a good editor and a good guy. I'm sure he'll do a great job! Congrats, Axel!

Joe Pruett

[sniperboy65]

Axel Alonso has my condolences. I’ve heard that Marvel’s X-Men office has always been chaotic as best. I salute you, Axel!

[Jerry Smith]

Nothing personal, but this is horrible news. The guy hates superhero comics and their fans (he's said so in interview after interview) and I don't read any books he's involved with. Most of Marvel reflects his hatred of superheroes, but UNCANNY and ASTONISHING were two books that I have enjoyed lately. I really dread what's going to happen to them. This is a sign that creativity is dead at Marvel--now the same dystopic, unheroic viewpoint will infect the X-books too. Is Dan Slott the only person that can smile and tell a fun story at the company?

[Groovie Mann]

i don't buy uncanny, so i really don't care what happens there. but x-men and astonishing are cool so i hope he doesn't screw that up.

[novak]

I'm pissed off. Alonso has no respect for X-continuity. The future of the X-books looks grim.

I might as well cancel my subscriptions now and save myself the grief.

[DawnBrown]

Good luck at DC, Mike!

best wishes,

Dawn Brown

[Prometheus3]

I'm not buying any X-Men books right now but Axel Alonso is doing a great job on editing oon Knight so far. Many people are very happy with the X-Men books right now so as long as he doesn't rock the boat everything will be fine.

[ORACofSEVEN]

I throw mt congratulations into the ring. However please stop inserting Manga style art into the X-men titles; any time that any book goes Manga style of influence the best group mof American style comics go down the tubes. ANY TIME-
Don't do it. There are plenty of interest and wonderfurl artist that would love to tackle the X-men titles- and be daring find that new artist that will be the big name of tomorrow-that is usually where they came from-
And clean up the X-Universe to a few titles that are coherent. I don't like having to read 20 title a month because the main book is picking up plotline from all these minor titles.

ORAC OUT

[Ace]

Yeah, really bad week of news for comics.

Between this and Vaughan leaving and what not.

And it started off so well with Omega Flight too.

Let's hope we get some good news out of the Baltimore con.

[Grobbel]

And clean up the X-Universe to a few titles that are coherent. I don't like having to read 20 title a month because the main book is picking up plotline from all these minor titles.

ORAC OUT
You haven't reall read any X-books in years, have you?

[red-maverick]

Ok this seems bad, the guy who edits Amazing Spiderman. I just hope he understands the X-books (except New X-men) are doing good just as they are and don't need any sort of changes. If he understands that and doesn't rock the boat, things will be great.

Between all the writers on X-books, that group has been doing the best it has in a while. Adjectiveless my personal favourite.

[Doowhaadiddy]

I'm pissed off. Alonso has no respect for X-continuity. The future of the X-books looks grim.

I might as well cancel my subscriptions now and save myself the grief.

What do you mean? Some examples please.
Some substance to your statement would be welcome so we could all maybe debate or answer what you have got to say.

[Michael P]

Does Axel even know/care about X-Men?
He'd have to be in a coma to work in the comics industry and not know about X-Men. As for the other, it doesn't much matter to me if he cares particularly about the X-Men, as long as he cares about making the books as good as they can possibly be.

Which, y'know, is an editor's job.

[Nas-Vell]

Ah. This is the editor who helped put classics like "Sins Past" and the whole Spider-Totem thing out there. I can't wait to see what his open-mindedness brings us next.
How long till JMS is writing Astonishing X-Men again? A year?

*sigh*

[zeraze1]

I'm pissed off. Alonso has no respect for X-continuity. The future of the X-books looks grim.

The X-books have a continuity?:confused:

I bring this up because Astonishing X-Men is the only X-book lately worth reading since the rest don't look like mutant adventures that you can dive into, understand, and enjoy.

Say what you will about Axel Alonso's X-Statix and the other X-books at the time (Exiles, Morrison's New X-Men), but they were sufficiently self-contained so you didn't have to hunt down titles or obscure back issues you didn't care for.

So, I honestly don't get the outrage over Alonso being the new X-editor. He may help turn the X-books without Whedon's presence into must reads.

zeraze

[paulski]

Firstly, congrats to Mr Alonso. Hardly a shock to most of us, but there you go. But just a bit of advice...

DON'T SCREW WITH UNCANNY!

This is probably the best the title's been since, hell, around the #280's. I'd successfully dropped it until Brubaker and Tan came on board - it would be stupid to change stuff around now.

Astonishing, on the other hand, you can f*ck with all you like. I'm out after Whedon and Cassaday finish up anyway. I don't think it'll matter who replaces them.

[novak]

Next summer will be a huge point for all of the X-books. The new X-editor will be setting up the next era of the X-book, like the post-Whedon Astonishing and what happens with Uncanny and Adjectiveless once the current arcs are finished. So, it is a very, very big deal to have a new editor who is not an X-fan.

Currently, all three of the core books are at the best they've been in years, and we don't need some yahoo to come in and mess it up since he doesn't understand what makes X-books what they are or understand the characters.

A lot of the X-fans have been expecting Claremont to be named editor, and he'd be a far better choice (if he's feeling up to the job).

[The_Master]

This is a disaster.

An unmitigated disaster.

Anyone remember the horror show that was 5 years of AA running the Hulk?

That may very well be the final nail in the X-coffin.

This guy HAS to have dirt on JoeyQ, otherwise there's no way he could have a job.

[Elixir]

Ok, so this is gona sound stupid, but what does an editor actually DO? How much say do they have in the stories that are published?

It sounds like this guy is gonna have an AWFUL lot of stuff on his hands...a bit worrying methinks, I'm especially concerned for New X-Men which is my favourite X-title, despite all the deaths and stuff. MORE ANOLE, AXEL!

[cindercatz]

I'm concerned. :confused:

Just don't mess up what you've got. (X-Men, UXM, AXM, X-Factor = all great) I guess this at least means Wolverine will be back under X-editorial, right? Maybe we can get him out of Avengers and back where he belongs? Hopefully the great large workload means Schmidt and the other Assistant X-Editors will handle most of the decision making? Hope so.

And Don't Kill the De-Powered Mutants. Some of the best characters at Marvel are currently on that list. It'd be great to have them back active, and a _____ to lose them. Don't be stupid.

[beta-ray]

:rolleyes:

Geez, I'd like to hear a direction or some comment from Alonso before I go ahead and run 'round screaming with my dress hiked up...

[Ace]

:rolleyes:

Geez, I'd like to hear a direction or some comment from Alonso before I go ahead and run 'round screaming with my dress hiked up...

Cause we can't judge him on his track record or anything?

[Cray_ws]

I'm going to make a bold prediction with little or no validity. I'm willing to bet that if Axel Alonso hits a homerun in terms of sales and has a "banner year" as an Executive Editor, Group Editor of the X-Men titles, Marvel Knights titles, MAX titles and Amazing Spider-Man, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider, and Punisher War Journal books he could position himself to be Marvel's next Editor in Chief if and when Quesada leaves.

[Royal Nonesuch]

I feel like it was earlier in his tenure at Marvel that the best stuff was coming from Axel Alonso's office (Revitalizing Amazing Spider-Man, the advent of X-Force/X-Statix, The Truth), and I wonder if it was because he was more or less left to his own devices. In any case, I hope he is able to bring that kind of energy to the X-Books next.

[JVT]

Here's hoping Alonso can familiarize himself with X-Men continuity. He was one of the main advocates of "story first before continuity" before. So long as he maintains both then it's all good.

[MadTrendy]

I really really really really really don't like Alonso as an editor.

Really, really.

But if you're reading this, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't break things.

Everything is really good right now.


At least I'm not the only one who feels this way. Morrison did so much damage to the franchise, it's only healing now, I don't know if even the mighty X can handle that sort of "vision" again.

[Jeremy Williams]

Firstly, congrats to Mr Alonso. Hardly a shock to most of us, but there you go. But just a bit of advice...

DON'T SCREW WITH UNCANNY!

This is probably the best the title's been since, hell, around the #280's. I'd successfully dropped it until Brubaker and Tan came on board - it would be stupid to change stuff around now.

Astonishing, on the other hand, you can f*ck with all you like. I'm out after Whedon and Cassaday finish up anyway. I don't think it'll matter who replaces them.

The artwork on Uncanny is awful.

As for who can replace Cassaday and Whedon and you will leave after. It seems to me it would be a dumb decision if the next guys are better.

I wouldn`t worry about the two main X books that much considering Alonso would be the the type to like Carey and Brubaker`s work.

[Tupper1979]

To those with no love for Astonishing X-Men;

Get a new hobby. Seriously. You have no taste. You have no class. You have no idea what "good" actually is. Stop posting here, move out of mommy's basement and get a real job where you can buy books and maybe, just maybe someday take someone out on a date. Take a real long look at "reality".

I'm sorry, I just find it hard to believe that anyone who's ever been even remotely interested in X-Men or even comics in general can dislike Astonishing. Bi-Monthly sucks, but hands down it's one of the best comic books out right now.

Besides, Alonso will have no control over Whedon/Cassady anyway. It's already plotted and being created.

But to re-iterate...if you don't like Astonishing, there's something seriously wrong with you.

[ORACofSEVEN]

You haven't reall read any X-books in years, have you?

Sorry they drove me away years ago, the Morrison run was okay but really wasn't the X-men sorta like an elseworlds or all-star version.
Casey and Austen both started okay and then the art on both title drove me away.
Never really heard anything about the title that made me want to delve into them again.
Astoninging was great from 1-6 but then really lost it for me after that.
They take themselves too seriously and really when they do that it isn't FUN to read.
There are too many other titles that deserve attention, although Alonzo seems to be a good start.

ORAC OUT

[ApacheDick]

God, this sucks for the X-books. Axel is an editor only loved by creators who hate having anyone edit their books (usually Ennis, Ellis, and all the other Vertigo hold-overs). JMS has even admitted Axel does nothing but rubber stamp approval on every script he does for Amazing. That's the guy they're putting in charge of the most continuity-intensive and character-heavy groups in all of comicdom? That's either putting a hell of a lot of faith in the creators to edit themselves, or a sure sign Marvel knows without any doubt the X-books will sell no matter how jumbled and contradictive they get. I suppose after putting Brett Ratner on the third movie, par is clearly for course...

[mrfstr]

I just want to point out that, in the thread announcing Marts' move to DC, I said Marvel would hand Alonso the X-books.

damn, I hate it when I'm right.

Alonso is fine for the small, quirky stuff that struggles... but when he gets his hands on big properties, its just... blah. With the exception of ASM, which I enjoy, though I appear to be the only person who does.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the x-books, and I wish Alonso the best of luck and hope he does a great job, but... can't help but feel it's not the best move.

Is Joey Cavelieri still at DC??? Should steal him back...

[Jed Saxon]

Anyone remember the horror show that was 5 years of AA running the Hulk?

Ah yes, the only time aside from Peter David's initial run that I like a crappy character such as the Hulk.

The artwork on Uncanny is awful.

The story really isn't much better (and yes, both creators are pretty gifted ones). Uncanny X-Men - destroyer of talent. YAY!
Sure, Brubaker had the problem on "Deadly Genesis" that Marvel spoiled everything in advance and when he took over "Uncanny" Claremont just did an arc with the Shi'Ar - and I just can't stand them anymore. Sure it beats the "Oh no, the humans hate us?! Were is Bastion? Where are the Friends of Humanitity?" stories, but right now "X-Men" is the winner. Perfect story (and I'm not really a fan of Carey) and breathtaking art by Chris Bachalo. I hope both will stay for a looooooooooong time.

[Evilomar]

Were is Bastion? Where are the Friends of Humanitity?" stories, but right now "X-Men" is the winner. Perfect story (and I'm not really a fan of Carey) and breathtaking art by Chris Bachalo. I hope both will stay for a looooooooooong time.

Someone actually wants to know where Bastion is? Operation Zero Totalcrap is the kind of crossover garbage that destroyed the comics in the mid 90's. Friends of Humanity died along with Graydon Creed, but if you want Howard Mackie writing X-stories again, I'm sure Alonzo can hook you up. The x-books have been a part of my life for over 20 years and I hate to say, but I just don't even care who they put on the book anymore.

Whedon and David are the only ones that are writing anything worth reading in the X-world as far as I'm concerned. Of course, Cable and Deadpool is the prime example of what a perfect X-men related book should be! Let Fabian Nicieza or Chris Claremont become group editors!

[mdhprime]

To those with no love for Astonishing X-Men;

Get a new hobby. Seriously. You have no taste. You have no class. You have no idea what "good" actually is. Stop posting here, move out of mommy's basement and get a real job where you can buy books and maybe, just maybe someday take someone out on a date. Take a real long look at "reality".

I'm sorry, I just find it hard to believe that anyone who's ever been even remotely interested in X-Men or even comics in general can dislike Astonishing. Bi-Monthly sucks, but hands down it's one of the best comic books out right now.

Besides, Alonso will have no control over Whedon/Cassady anyway. It's already plotted and being created.

But to re-iterate...if you don't like Astonishing, there's something seriously wrong with you.

Nice rant. Maybe you can tell us what other hobbies we should quit due to our lack of class or taste. Perhaps you are the one who needs to take a long look at reality. I don't like Astonishing, but I am not sitting bashing people that do.

[Ace]

Someone actually wants to know where Bastion is? Operation Zero Totalcrap is the kind of crossover garbage that destroyed the comics in the mid 90's. Friends of Humanity died along with Graydon Creed, but if you want Howard Mackie writing X-stories again, I'm sure Alonzo can hook you up. The x-books have been a part of my life for over 20 years and I hate to say, but I just don't even care who they put on the book anymore.



1.) This news wouldn't have nearly bugged me so much a year ago. I was pretty apathetic then. After that, they put Bru and Carey on. That changed things completely.

2.) Here's a really weird thing about X-Men that no one seems to think of. Past God Loves, Man Kills and to some degree Days of Future Past, most of the really great stories in X-Men canon have NOTHING to do with the human/mutants racism angle. Dark Phoenix/Hellfire Saga, 150, the Brood Saga, the Kulan Gath story, The Adams stuff with the living monolith, the Demon Bear saga, The Cross-Time Caper/Inferno issues in Excalibur, and what not. It's mainly just out there X-Men as Superheroes stuff that tends to stand the test of time. I've been an X-Men fan for more than half of my life and I groan anytime I see a sentinel show up or another anti-mutant cult. It just saps all the fun out of the property. The racist stuff, which is easily the aspect of the X-Men most ground in reality, works fine as background. But when it comes to the forefront, URGH.

[skaly]

Anything to get him off of ASM! Besides Astonishing has sucked from issue 7 on.

No it hasn't. And why are you reading it if it's sucking? And if you're not reading it, how do you know it sucks?

[Jed Saxon]

Someone actually wants to know where Bastion is?

Of course not! These "Oh the humans hate us!" plaged the X-Men for decades. I just don't want to read about this anymore. I thought I made my point clear. ;)
So I prefer a Shi'Ar story right after the last Shi'Ar story to another "Hunt them down!" story.
The X-Men for me were more this "We have to deal with our abilities and there are whackos he have to take down!". Claremont introduced a lot of cool characters (heroes and villians) in his initial arc and it wasn't only "Help! We are hated!".
There were people like Eric the Red, Juggernaut, Black Tom Cassidy, Proteus and Mojo to battle. They were discovering new worlds and dimensions etc. Not just thos "We have to be on the run!".
Carey provides a new, enigmatic enemy and I'm totally hooked and Brubaker is sending the X-Men off into space. I like that.

but if you want Howard Mackie writing X-stories again, I'm sure Alonzo can hook you up.

I'd rather have him write Ghost Rider again.

The x-books have been a part of my life for over 20 years and I hate to say, but I just don't even care who they put on the book anymore.

I do. But it's so with every book. I'm past the point where I care that much for characters. Its all a repetition of stuff that has been there before. It's becoming pretty boring.
So if Axel Alonso gives Brubaker carte blanche and he could go all "Grant Morrison" (who breathed fresh impulses into the franchise) on the X-Men (no matter how many whining fanboys go on a rampage and threat to cancel the X-Books) then I say "More power to him". I crave for fresh takes on characters, I crave for new, interesting characters, new overwhelming threats instead of the 146416716th time X-Men vs. Magneto (*yawn*) and if Marvel's most stale franchise next to Fantastic Four actually gets shaked up then I'm sure I'll be glad.

Let Fabian Nicieza or Chris Claremont become group editors!

Hell no! If I want to read the X-Men how they were written 15-25 years ago then I'll grab my stack of back issues.
Yeah I know the majority of comic fans like to live in a repeating circle, want to read the same stuff over and over again and can't let go of characters (thus them constantly reborn again and again and again) but ASM hasn't been this entertaining since David Michelinie departed from the book (aside from "Sins Past" which was poorly executed IMO) and when Ben Reilly was Spidey.
I like ASM for moving the franchise forward and I love Sensational for all these little geek moments with Spideys friends and foes of years past (especially the odd ones).
And somewhere between there is FNSM.
As a Spidey reader I'm pretty happy right now and I hope that Alonso will so some good for the X-Men, too (but right now there isn't that muh to be done IMO).

2.) Here's a really weird thing about X-Men that no one seems to think of. Past God Loves, Man Kills and to some degree Days of Future Past, most of the really great stories in X-Men canon have NOTHING to do with the human/mutants racism angle. Dark Phoenix/Hellfire Saga, 150, the Brood Saga, the Kulan Gath story, The Adams stuff with the living monolith, the Demon Bear saga, The Cross-Time Caper/Inferno issues in Excalibur, and what not. It's mainly just out there X-Men as Superheroes stuff that tends to stand the test of time. I've been an X-Men fan for more than half of my life and I groan anytime I see a sentinel show up or another anti-mutant cult. It just saps all the fun out of the property. The racist stuff, which is easily the aspect of the X-Men most ground in reality, works fine as background. But when it comes to the forefront, URGH.

I totally agree.

[Evilomar]

I'd rather have him write Ghost Rider again.


I would take him back over Way too!







Hell no! If I want to read the X-Men how they were written 15-25 years ago then I'll grab my stack of back issues.



What I meant with them taking over as Group editors is that they are the only two that I can think of that actually give a ____ about the characters. I loved Morrison's first few issues of New X-men, they brought me back into comics, but then it got real bad real fast. Great ideas just poorly executed. Bru's run is okay so far, nothing real exciting, better than Deadly Genesis. Carey on X-men is okay...been there done that. New characters that won't amount to anything (that speak really really bad spanish at times), iceman getting his body blown up, and having two bad guys join the team. But hey to each their own, so it's all good. I'm so glad you cleared up the crap with Bastion..whew.

[Jed Saxon]

What I meant with them taking over as Group editors is that they are the only two that I can think of that actually give a ____ about the characters.

Ah. I see your point.
But I fear with Claremont it would be "So, who wants to write solo titles for Sage and Psylocke together with me? And Storm needs one. too."
Was CC ever an editor before? I dunno but I think he wouldn't be objective enough for this task, because he practically writes in his pet characters if he takes over a series (Psylocke on Exiles will be a HUGE letdown) or - even worse - creates one that is quite similar to a deceased one (like Lifeguard).
So I totally could see Sage in Uncanny, Psylocke in Adjectivless and Storm in Astonishing. Ugh. No.
And with Nicieza? Cable and Deadpool would get bigger roles in the MU.

I loved Morrison's first few issues of New X-men, they brought me back into comics, but then it got real bad real fast.

I haven't read all of his arc yet (only the first one and then beginning with #129) and I loved it most of the time (aside from the two final ones "Planet X" and "Here comes Tomorrow").

New characters that won't amount to anything

Who knows?
I mean when was the last time one new huge threat was created that lasted a while? Onslaught? Doesn't really count. Was it Apocalypse? It has been a while though.
Instead of the return of Kang, Ultron, Magneto, Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Apocalypse, Sabretooth et al the MU is in desperate need of new enemies. I hope that Carey will provide some good new bad lads.

(that speak really really bad spanish at times),

Worse than the German text in "Ultimates Annual #2"? Because that dialogue made CC's German dialogue look like that from a native speaker.

iceman getting his body blown up, and having two bad guys join the team.

Mystique has been (practically) a member before (around Uncanny #300) and I wouldn't call Sabretooth exactly a team member. ;)
And hey, I couldn't care less for any X-Men on the team (same goes for Uncanny aside from Kurt and Rachel) and without Bachalo I would've dropped the book but Carey made me care for them and enoy the book (sure Bachalo's awesome pencils helped a lot but I consider them more icing on the cake).

And in regards to Iceman - we could have Havok pee on him, right?
I like that some people are doing more with him and exploring his abilities. He just has to be more than "Look I can create ice!". :D

I'm so glad you cleared up the crap with Bastion..whew.

Heh. :D
The only Sentinel I want to return is Nimrod (and nope I'm NOT reading New X-Men). Bastion can stay where he is - in character limbo.

[TommyV]

I think his first task should be to fix Astonishing. It is the most frustrating book to read and a great example of a good story which is really, really written poorly. I hope he pays attention to that title in particular because the others (Uncanny, X-Men) have been well done lately.

Wow - what internet provider do you have? It must be incredibly powerful to connect your posts here all the way from Bizarro-World!:rolleyes:

[Scavenger]

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2.) Here's a really weird thing about X-Men that no one seems to think of. Past God Loves, Man Kills and to some degree Days of Future Past, most of the really great stories in X-Men canon have NOTHING to do with the human/mutants racism angle. Dark Phoenix/Hellfire Saga, 150, the Brood Saga, the Kulan Gath story, The Adams stuff with the living monolith, the Demon Bear saga, The Cross-Time Caper/Inferno issues in Excalibur, and what not. It's mainly just out there X-Men as Superheroes stuff that tends to stand the test of time. I've been an X-Men fan for more than half of my life and I groan anytime I see a sentinel show up or another anti-mutant cult. It just saps all the fun out of the property. The racist stuff, which is easily the aspect of the X-Men most ground in reality, works fine as background. But when it comes to the forefront, URGH.

That's a really really good point.

[red-maverick]

The X-books have a continuity?:confused:

I bring this up because Astonishing X-Men is the only X-book lately worth reading since the rest don't look like mutant adventures that you can dive into, understand, and enjoy.

Say what you will about Axel Alonso's X-Statix and the other X-books at the time (Exiles, Morrison's New X-Men), but they were sufficiently self-contained so you didn't have to hunt down titles or obscure back issues you didn't care for.

So, I honestly don't get the outrage over Alonso being the new X-editor. He may help turn the X-books without Whedon's presence into must reads.

zeraze

Okay have you even read the new core X-books, you definitely don't need to go look for obscure back issues and hunt down titles for Carey's Adjectiveless run which I hope doesn't get changed cause it's my favourite core X-book plus it's really good with continuity or for Brubaker's, well maybe Giant size X-men #1, but it's not crucial and it's hardly obscure. I'd say Astonishing is my least favourite, although good the continuity has totally been thrown out and I like the other ones better and their monthly on top of that.

[mdhprime]

Wow - what internet provider do you have? It must be incredibly powerful to connect your posts here all the way from Bizarro-World!:rolleyes:

Wow...what an incredibly intelligent post. Maybe you can try real hard and actually state your case instead of engaging in mindless bashing.

[paulski]

There have been far too many di<i></i>ckhead posts here, mdhprime. And, sad to say, this thread has been mild compared to some. :(

Apparently if someone disagrees with another poster, that gives them the right to insult and belittle them. At least, that's the impression I'm getting. :(

[OcCaM]

I hope this doesn't result in J. Michael Straczynski moving from AMAZING SPIDER-MAN to ASTONISHING X-MEN after Whedon & Cassaday end their run...

Oh dear God yes!

Then I can happily go back to ignoring all the X-Men titles and maybe ASM would be readable again! :D

[JoshuaOrtega]

Congrats, Axel!

[innocentboy]

hmmmm .... interesting ....

[Doowhaadiddy]

Axel Alonso is a "name" editor - we all know him (I am asuming). His guidance of ASM and all his titles has been A OKAY!! Well done Mr Alonso. I look forward to your stewardship of all things X.

And JMS on an X-title would be a seller for me. His understanding of group dynamics (anyone reading Supreme Power and Squadron Supreme - heck, ANYONE EVER WATCH BABYLON 5 for goodness sake? - and I for one am enjpoying his FF) is second to none. Imagine teh Shi'ar - Phoenix legacy handled by JMS. And with Ed Brunaker doing such a fantastic job on Uncanny, I think things can only get even better (considering Messrs Whedon & Cassady - what a fine artist - are confirmed as leaving Astonishing)

JMS on Astonishing? Bring it on I say!!!

[Doowhaadiddy]

Oh dear God yes!

Then I can happily go back to ignoring all the X-Men titles and maybe ASM would be readable again! :D

See above. I forgot to make my reply direct to you guys / gals ?