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MattBrady
08-03-2006, 05:55 AM
<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/ExMachina/MachinaWash01.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/ExMachina/t_EM22-1.jpg" border="0" align="right"></a>No – it wasn’t a guest artist, and no, your eyes weren’t playing tricks on you.

With this week’s issue of <b>Ex Machina</b>, regular series artist Tony Harris decided to change things up a little, changing his style and approach to the art for the acclaimed series written by Brian K Vaughan. Harris is still joined by inker Tom Feister and colorist J.D. Mettler, but the look the three are producing is just a shade different, starting with this issue.

We caught up with Harris for a brief chat about his changed approach.

<b>Newsarama</b>: First off, and obviously – looking at issue #22 of <b>Ex Machina</b>, it’s pretty clear that you’ve changed your style on the pencils. Is it a storyline specific thing, or just changing it up to keep it interesting?

<b>Tony Harris</b>: We hit the halfway mark of the series and I am always looking for ways to take up the quality a notch. I really don't get to paint much anymore, so this was a way for me to do that over my own art with ink-wash. That’s what it is by the way, a wash [In ink-wash, the artist paints on the art with black ink diluted in water, which produces a gray, shadowy tone]

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<b>NRAMA</b>: So this is a full-on inkwash? For those who don’t know the term, can you describe how it’s done?

<b>TH</b>: I pencil the pages the same way I always have, then they go off to Tom. He inks them, sends them back, and before they go to JD for color, I paint an ink wash on all the pages as they come back.

<b>NRAMA</b>: So this is all your side of things, not something that Tom is doing differently?

<b>TH</b>: Right. Tom’s still inking, but it’s all me on the washes.

<b>NRAMA</b>: Are you tweaking the layout somewhat too? It almost looks like you’re bringing a few Art Deco influences back into your page design with this issue, hearkening back to your <b>Starman</b> work…

<b>TH</b>: I honestly haven't been thinking about it. I try to vary the page layout as much as possible. But a story like this would suffer from flashy panel borders and such. This is a political thriller first and foremost, and I don't want to detract from what's going on inside the panel. But I do try to throw a curve once and while and do something different with the layout.

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<b>NRAMA</b>: When we spoke a couple of years back ( http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=14349), you mentioned how, to your surprise almost, you’d gotten wicked fast with your pencils…adopting this style, are you still wicked fast?

<b>TH</b>: Yep. I still average about two pages a day. But I have to now because I have the extra work on me with the shading. Plus I do a <i>lot</i> of outside work on covers like <b>Nightmare on Elm Street, Conan</b>, and the <b>Highlander</b> monthly. Not to mention pencils, ink and color on my <b>Machina</b> covers.

<b>NRAMA</b>: As both you and Brian have talked about, <b>Ex Machina</b> is a very collaborative effort, so did you talk with him about the slight the change in look the wash allows for?

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/ExMachina/MachinaWash14.htm" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/ExMachina/t_EM22-14.jpg" border="0" align="left"></a><b>TH</b>: Nope. I literally was eating dinner one night, and it hit me like a shot from the blue. And I had been doing this technique on <b>Conan</b> and <b>Highlander</b> and enjoyed it so much I thought ,"Wow, why can’t <b>Machina</b> look like this too?” So I called the guys up and just kinda dropped it on them out of the blue. Everyone was a little concerned about additional time in execution and all, but I think that after we finished the issue, <i>everyone</i> was thrilled with it. JD and I are still figuring out quite a lot, so in the next issue or two, we hope to get it down to more of a science as far as what to do more of and what to omit etc....

<b>NRAMA</b>: So what, have you found, does ink wash work best on any particular element of the book? Anything coming up that you can point to as something you sat back, looked at and went, “Ohhh yeah…”?

<b>TH</b>: I think it works great on <i>any</i> cover work. It makes it look more painted. But I think it is tremendous in <b>Machina</b> because it’s a book about conversations to a large degree involving highly charged political decision making, and a little bit of super-heroics. I think this added touch gives the book even more realism, and it becomes more believable to the reader. I can definitely look at the pages now and see a film!

And ultimately, I decided to do this for one other reason, and I am not ass-kissing our fans - I wanted to improve the quality of the art for our readers. Our sales aren't massive like Spider-Man or whatever, but we have hardcore, loyal fans. And our sales monthly and in trade are proof to us of that. So this is a thank you to you guys. Cheers!

Jeff-2
08-03-2006, 07:14 AM
Looks great. I'm looking forward to it.

Supreme Convoy
08-03-2006, 07:26 AM
Wow, Harris' art looks even better with ink wash!

Neat!

liewkw23
08-03-2006, 07:32 AM
Tony just upped his game a notch. Not many artists in today's market can actually do covers and interiors and keep to the shipping schedules. Gonna buy the trades soon.

Thomas Rhymer
08-03-2006, 07:41 AM
Looks beautiful! I just wouldn't say it's nicer than what Harris did before, because ... this guy just in general works on a level that just cannot be topped.

I need more interviews with TH, please!

ootah
08-03-2006, 07:58 AM
As good as Tony Harris art is and as much as I like his ink-washes, I get the feeling all this work is lost underneath the ellaborate computer color...

davew
08-03-2006, 08:22 AM
This is quite interesting. I've loved Harris' work so far on the series, but this looks like a real step up in detail and quality - I just hope it doesn't change the 'feel' of the book too much.

Plus, I think Mettler is one of the best colourists in comics today. It's just so perfectly-judged but not obtrusive or flashy like some colourists can be. I hope the team sticks around for good on this book.

Talking of which, Harris mentions the "half-way mark" of this book - does that mean that Ex Machina is capped at 50 issues or something?

Thomas Rhymer
08-03-2006, 08:39 AM
Talking of which, Harris mentions the "half-way mark" of this book - does that mean that Ex Machina is capped at 50 issues or something?

Yep, it's 50 or 52 issues. Was a limited thing from the beginning. Covering the first (and maybe only) term of Hundred as NY's mayor.

350z
08-03-2006, 08:52 AM
His new technique is very nice, but I have to agree with ootah. It seems like the colors are covering up those fantastic grayscaled (ink-washed) pages. Maybe more of a translucent palette would work or maybe even a hand color job as opposed to computer colors (if computer colors are used for the book)?

Statham
08-03-2006, 09:16 AM
His new technique is very nice, but I have to agree with ootah. It seems like the colors are covering up those fantastic grayscaled (ink-washed) pages. Maybe more of a translucent palette would work or maybe even a hand color job as opposed to computer colors (if computer colors are used for the book)?

I don't know - Comparing those new pages to some of the older ones, there's definitely a whole level between them - You can definitely see the effects of what Harris is doing. But maybe a different colouring technique would be beneficial, though I loved the nearly flat colour in some segments of Fact V Fiction, most notably with Krem and the Commissioner. I love Kremlin, by the way.

I love how BKV often gets teamed with creators whose development can be seen as each issue or arc goes by - For instance, look at Alphona's Runaways #1 of volume one, then issue 7, then 13, and 18, then volume 2's #1, #9, and on to fifteen - There's a real sense of developing skills, including Christina Strain's beautiful colours.

But I digress. It's awesome that Harris can do this, as well as his other commitments, and get everything practically on time - It's something some pencillers could learn from. He also seems like a genuinely nice guy, from what I've seen in interviews with him.

BlueThunderArmy
08-03-2006, 09:57 AM
I knew it! I actually checked the cover credits after the first few pages to see if it was still Harris. Looks great, though.

Mundungus
08-03-2006, 10:32 AM
I picked up a bunch of Machina issues a few months back and fell in love with it, but I didn't want to pick up any more singles seeing as how I was so far behind. I get the gist of what's going on, but I think this is the one series I'll buy in trade.

Tony Harris' work just makes me drool.

Steve J.
08-03-2006, 10:33 AM
Our sales aren't massive like Spider-Man or whatever, but we have hardcore, loyal fans. And our sales monthly and in trade are proof to us of that.I'm one of those fans, and I believe Ex Machina's fan base could expand even more if retailers would order this title for the shelf instead of for first week sell-through. In the Detroit area at least, it can be a challenge to find if you don't hit the comic shop the week it's released. Maybe some of the retailer's profit from the Infinite Civil Crisis War events could subsidize a few extra copies of Ex Machina......

K_Mang67
08-03-2006, 11:06 AM
Tony Harris cracked my personal Top 10 Artist list several months ago because of his work on Ex Machina. It is light-years beyond what he did on Starman several years ago.

The only problem with Harris is that he is slow as hell. He already does a bunch of variant and exclusive covers for DC and Dark Horse, and now he's added this ink-wash extra step to the process?

Tell you what Tony, forget the covers and the ink-wash, and get Ex Machina [my 2nd favorite comic behind only Fables] out on time!!

melperfect
08-03-2006, 11:43 AM
Different sure, but excellent as always.
Ex Machina has been on my pull list since issue 3, and it's in no danger of being dropped. I always look forward to seeing it in the pile.

Keep up the great work guys!

MitchHundred
08-03-2006, 12:33 PM
better and better

davew
08-03-2006, 12:35 PM
Yep, it's 50 or 52 issues. Was a limited thing from the beginning. Covering the first (and maybe only) term of Hundred as NY's mayor.

Ah, interesting. I knew they had an ending in mind, but didn't realise it was so definitely capped.

And I'm guessing only one term, given the first issue's downbeat framing sequence (which was set in 2005)...

ticknart
08-03-2006, 12:35 PM
I knew it! I actually checked the cover credits after the first few pages to see if it was still Harris. Looks great, though.
I checked the credits a couple of times and then I pulled the last issue to see who was filling in for whom. I was stunned to see that there was no one new on the art team. I'm looking forward to seeing how the team uses this new style in the future.

Thanks, Matt, for checking in with TH and for bringing up the layouts, they reminded me of Starman, too.

candrusiak
08-03-2006, 01:30 PM
I knew it! I actually checked the cover credits after the first few pages to see if it was still Harris. Looks great, though.

Did the same thing myself. After seeing those uncoloured pages I would vote to have the book presented in B&W. Too bad that would hurt the sales.

Jeff Hoffman
08-03-2006, 03:04 PM
I won't get my copy until next month, but looking forward to seeing the difference. I don't think viewing it on th computer screen really shows enough to see a difference. Those pages do look great though.

This has been a great book and like BKV's other work, extremely consistent in quality as well. Will be sad with Y coming to an end at 60 and this halfway done. Those are the only books I am getting of his. I hope he has other things in line to do with both the Wildstorm Signature line and Vertigo.

Kolimar
08-03-2006, 03:20 PM
As good as Tony Harris art is and as much as I like his ink-washes, I get the feeling all this work is lost underneath the ellaborate computer color...

You may have a point there.

Kolimar
08-03-2006, 03:28 PM
I have to say the more I look at Harris' art the more fascinated I feel by it. Truly great stuff. :)

lex luthor
08-03-2006, 03:34 PM
Excellent artwork. I'd have to agree w/a few others that've mentioned the artwork looks better in B&W.

Grendel Prime
08-03-2006, 03:35 PM
I love Ex Machina; I own every issue. I love Tony Harris' artwork; I've bought most series he's worked on since Starman. But, honestly, I prefer his clean, crisp line to this new wash. Everyone looks dull and lumpy. Especially on Ex Machina, I want the art to leap off the page, which Harris has always been able to deliver, but this new muddier technique just doesn't do it for me. Sorry to be the nay-sayer.

http://mypage.iu.edu/~tgatkins/fun/civilwar_dd.jpg

davew
08-03-2006, 04:42 PM
I love Ex Machina; I own every issue. I love Tony Harris' artwork; I've bought most series he's worked on since Starman. But, honestly, I prefer his clean, crisp line to this new wash. Everyone looks dull and lumpy. Especially on Ex Machina, I want the art to leap off the page, which Harris has always been able to deliver, but this new muddier technique just doesn't do it for me. Sorry to be the nay-sayer.

http://mypage.iu.edu/~tgatkins/fun/civilwar_dd.jpg

Having read it, I sort of agree. It's not as clean and crisp - it's different. It'll take some getting used to. I agree with whoever said that they'd like to see it printed in black-and-white - I wonder if Mettler is going to take some time working out how best to colour this new technique, too...

OBERGEEK
08-03-2006, 09:01 PM
Having read it, I sort of agree. It's not as clean and crisp - it's different. It'll take some getting used to. I agree with whoever said that they'd like to see it printed in black-and-white - I wonder if Mettler is going to take some time working out how best to colour this new technique, too...


To all of you who are excited....so are we. Its a new start of sorts.
If you look at the article closely, there is a quote stating that this issue is our benchmark for this first issue usings the washes, and JD and I are gonna make some adjustments to get it crisp, and SWEEEET!!!! Stay with us true believers! We are on a quest to bring you the FANTASTICALLISTICOMUGONNAGALLIPIGUSSSSSS SS!!!!!!!!!! ( Try and pronounce that! I dare ya!)


SHIZNITKINFARPLES AWAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!

OLD MAN HARRIS;)

Kody
08-04-2006, 12:41 AM
Ex Machina is a fantastic book, and Harris is kicking some major ass on the art.

Korvac
08-04-2006, 09:04 AM
Tony, I have always loved your work. Thank you.

K_Mang67
08-10-2006, 02:06 AM
To all of you who are excited....so are we. Its a new start of sorts.
If you look at the article closely, there is a quote stating that this issue is our benchmark for this first issue usings the washes, and JD and I are gonna make some adjustments to get it crisp, and SWEEEET!!!! Stay with us true believers! We are on a quest to bring you the FANTASTICALLISTICOMUGONNAGALLIPIGUSSSSSS SS!!!!!!!!!! ( Try and pronounce that! I dare ya!)


SHIZNITKINFARPLES AWAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!

OLD MAN HARRIS;)

Tony, with all due respect, the ink-wash technique is a waste of time. It is almost totally lost under the colors. What remains on the page looks like random shadows and smudges.

Besides, this extra step just makes an already late comic even more late.

Jeff-2
08-10-2006, 02:34 AM
Tony, with all due respect, the ink-wash technique is a waste of time. It is almost totally lost under the colors. What remains on the page looks like random shadows and smudges.

Besides, this extra step just makes an already late comic even more late.Personally, I don't think that is quite true. I like the technique and I think it helps add a new atmosphere to the book. It give the art an almost painted feel which I really like.

OBERGEEK
08-10-2006, 09:01 AM
Tony, with all due respect, the ink-wash technique is a waste of time. It is almost totally lost under the colors. What remains on the page looks like random shadows and smudges.

Besides, this extra step just makes an already late comic even more late.

Man these kind of comments just make me tired. Its not a waste of time, it does not get lost under the colors. We said that we were trying to work out the kinks in the above article . How exactly is 22 issues and 2 specials in 2 years a late comic. I also said in the article above that I do 5 pages a week, sometimes more. That is not lip service. I happens to be true. And everyone from my inker to my editor will back me on that. Beyond what I produce, I cant tell you what is happening.

OLD MAN HARRIS:mad:

davew
08-10-2006, 12:37 PM
I think people are going to have a mixed reaction at first - it always happens with change, and I think you have to expect that. However, I think this change in style is going to benefit the book in the long run, especially as your colourist gets used to the new look of your art.

Also - any chance of seeing more of the b/w art? It really does look good.

K_Mang67
08-11-2006, 12:04 AM
Man these kind of comments just make me tired. Its not a waste of time, it does not get lost under the colors. We said that we were trying to work out the kinks in the above article . How exactly is 22 issues and 2 specials in 2 years a late comic. I also said in the article above that I do 5 pages a week, sometimes more. That is not lip service. I happens to be true. And everyone from my inker to my editor will back me on that. Beyond what I produce, I cant tell you what is happening.

OLD MAN HARRIS:mad:

Woah, hold on. The last thing I wanted to do was to piss off one of my favorite artists.

After one issue, the ink-wash isn't doing it for me. Maybe you'll work out the kinks, but I'll have to wait and see in the next issue.

I honestly didn't realize that it had been 22 issues in 2 years. I added Ex Machina to my pull-list with issue #13 and it seemed to me that several of the issues after that came out quite late. I thought I remembered there being a real gap between issues #17, 18 and 19?
And there was even a seemingly extra long wait between issue #1 and #2 of the Specials.

But, you're right. 22 issues plus 2 Specials in 2 years is pretty damn good.

I apologize and look forward to #23.:D