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Snowspinner
07-04-2006, 09:34 PM
Let me start by clearing up some possible misconceptions.

1. The book definitely features Alice from Alice in Wonderland, Dorothy from Wizard of Oz, and Wendy from Peter Pan. These are not female characters that share the names.
2. The book focuses on retellings of their classic stories, only with the elements of the fantastic removed, and replaced with sexual awakenings. Captain Hook becomes a sexual predator with a deformed hand, the Scarecrow becomes a rather unintelligent farmhand, and the Red Queen becomes a dominatrix schoolteacher.
3. The book includes depictions of heterosexual and homosexual sex acts (Both M/M and F/F), threesomes, masturbation, anal, oral, manual, and vaginal sex, bestiality, pedophilia, and incest.
4. It is virtually impossible to answer the oft-asked question "does it glorify X." Alice, Dorothy, and Wendy are all screwed up people when the story begins. They have not coped well with their sexual awakenings. In fact, they were all, in one sense or another, traumatized by them. The book is largely the story of their reawakenings and their learning to deal with their pasts. So their experiences are neither glorified nor condemned.

And now, on to the key question... how is it?

Brilliant. The book is challenging, subtle, and interesting. Reading it on a computer screen - hardly the ideal form for comics - I devoured it in a single day. The book seems poised basically to do two things.

The first is to be erotic. And it is erotic. There are scenes that are, plain and simple, hot.

The second is to be difficult. And it is that as well. Fundamentally, the book is about sexual awakenings - the moment where we go from "innocent child" (If we ever are that, really) to being a sexual being. And the fact of the matter is, sexual awakenings are disturbing. They're things that happen to children, and we like to imagine children as... well... innocent and non-sexual. But they're also things that happen to everyone. And they're things that, after they happen, don't completely destroy childishness.

Lost Girls confronts us with that fact. It reminds us that there's not some magical moment where children become adults, are no longer childlike, and are then "allowed" to have sexualities. In fact, it forces us to confront this fact, by telling the story of sexual awakening through stories that are familiar to us as children's stories. It says, flat out, that sexual awakenings and going through the looking glass are basically the same thing. And it makes us see them, at least for a moment, as the same thing.

That's a heck of a hard thing to swallow. And Moore and Gebbie know it. But it makes for an interesting story. And, with Moore's adept writing and clever (and, as always, experimental) use of the medium, and Gebbie's rich, beautiful art, it's an important story.

It is a mistake, I think, to call the book shocking. It's even a mistake to call it controversial. I would call it challenging. It is a book that, once you read, you almost cannot help but debate. It is a book that confronts us about things that we, as a society, do not like to talk about. And it points out that our silence about them can be destructive. Its end claim is that the trauma and difficulty faced by its three protagonists was, at least in part, caused by the fact that exploration of their sexual desires and sexual lives was something that was denied to them. They could not talk about what had happened to them, and they could not share it. It's not until they meet each other, and do share their experiences - good and bad - that they are able to deal with their sexualities.

As a result, the book challenges us to talk about sex - to not hide behind the comforting illusion that children are innocent, adults are sexual, and it's possible to tell one from the other. And to acknowledge that sexuality is a big, complex thing that has more to it than "use a condom." As I said, a challenging book. And the challenge it gives is a big one.

But a damn good one, and a damn good book.

EdKaye
07-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Great review!

I would love to pick this book up, and was actually waiting for it. But it costs to much for me to pick up at the moment. It is definitely on my list though.

Fan4Fan
07-05-2006, 10:14 AM
Reading it on a computer screen - hardly the ideal form for comics - I devoured it in a single day.

Is an electronic-format version available to the public?

Snowspinner
07-05-2006, 10:19 AM
Is an electronic-format version available to the public?

No. You have to be special. :)

Fan4Fan
07-05-2006, 12:14 PM
No. You have to be special. :)

:mad:

But my mum always said I was special! :D

Very special! :p

Batdevil
07-05-2006, 09:26 PM
Great review!

I would love to pick this book up, and was actually waiting for it. But it costs to much for me to pick up at the moment. It is definitely on my list though.

How much does it cost anyway?

Snowspinner
07-05-2006, 10:08 PM
How much does it cost anyway?

$75 for the regular edition. An arm and a leg for the shiny signed magical edition.

Batdevil
07-05-2006, 10:19 PM
$75 for the regular edition. An arm and a leg for the shiny signed magical edition.

Aw, man. I just sold my left limbs for a sachet of toothpaste... I want that shiney magical edition. :) Wait... is it out yet?

EdKaye
07-05-2006, 11:26 PM
Aw, man. I just sold my left limbs for a sachet of toothpaste... I want that shiney magical edition. :) Wait... is it out yet?

I know the feeling.

I believe it is out, but a lot of stores won't stock it, and if they do stock it, you have to ask for it, as it probably won't be on the shelves. This is because authorities in several countries have threatened stores that stock it, and people who buy it, that they could be arrested for child pornography possesion.

It is not available in the UK because Great Ormond Strret hospital own the rights to Peter Pan, and have told Alan Moore that he needs to have their permission to publish the book. Alan Moore, obvioulsy thinking this ridiculous, told them he just won't release it in the UK

Snowspinner
07-05-2006, 11:51 PM
I know the feeling.

I believe it is out, but a lot of stores won't stock it, and if they do stock it, you have to ask for it, as it probably won't be on the shelves. This is because authorities in several countries have threatened stores that stock it, and people who buy it, that they could be arrested for child pornography possesion.

It is not available in the UK because Great Ormond Strret hospital own the rights to Peter Pan, and have told Alan Moore that he needs to have their permission to publish the book. Alan Moore, obvioulsy thinking this ridiculous, told them he just won't release it in the UK

It is not out yet - I believe it'll be available at SDCC, and generally available in August.

BillReed
07-06-2006, 12:09 AM
You can order it from Amazon for a much cheaper price and have it shipped straight to you. Screw the bookstores.

Snowspinner
07-06-2006, 12:06 PM
You can order it from Amazon for a much cheaper price and have it shipped straight to you. Screw the bookstores.

Screwing the local comic shops, on the other hand, is a bit more unfortunate.

Blind Assassin
07-08-2006, 07:05 AM
Screwing the local comic shops, on the other hand, is a bit more unfortunate.

Thanks for your concern, Snowspinner.

Let me tell you how our shop handled that.

We have a weekly e-mail newsletter that goes out to our subscribers and those who sign up for it on our website. (Just a few weeks ago, I started putting the newsletter up on our store website so it is accessible to everyone)

When this project was announced, I put it in the newsletter. a 75 dollar book (or 150 bucks for the s/n edition) is a lot of money. How many should we order? Should we keep some 'for the stands'? Would there be any market? These are the questions we had to ask ourselves.

I put a link to the interviews with Moore, Gebbie, and publisher, Chris Staros (all of which were right here on the 'rama) in our newsletter. We asked for those who were serious about the book to put down a 25 dollar deposit for the regular edition, or a 50 dollar desposit for the s/n edition.

To our surprise, we got 12 people pre-order the regular edition, and 2 to pre-order the s/n edition.

Yes, the more 'net savvy folks can run to Amazon or DCBS, but not everyone does that, or thinks to do that.


Had we not utilized our newsletter to guage interest and to get a partial payment up front, I don't believe we would have ordered as many copies of the book as we ended up ordering.


I think we came out all right. :)