Joe Kelly talks Supergirl

[God-Man]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/000628203.cfm

I found this part of the article most interesting:

Also, watch out for her daddy complex. As revealed earlier in the series, Supergirl's father sent her after Kal-El to kill him. Her place in the DC Universe proper will constantly be reflected by his lessons.

"A guy puts his naked 16 year-old daughter in a spaceship to kill a baby. There's some stuff there," Kelly pointed out. "We start to see more of that, the mystery of why she wants to do this starts to build also."


So, is this official? I thought that it was just a lie from the evil Supergirl from #5? Zor-El really sent Kara to kill Superman?

Anyway, I hope this title can finally get on track. I want to see what Kelly can do with Kara. She's virtually a blank slate, so let's see where he can go from there.

[stiltman6969]

question... wth is going on with supergirl?

i picked up the most recent issue and flipped through it... she's a rebel battling evil supermen in Kandor? and she's also with the Legion? what?

[God-Man]

question... wth is going on with supergirl?

i picked up the most recent issue and flipped through it... she's a rebel battling evil supermen in Kandor? and she's also with the Legion? what?

Hey, a few years back, Superboy was with the Teen Titans and the Legion at the same time. TT later showed how Superboy was thrown into the 31st century. It was only gone for a few seconds in the 21st century, when in fact Superboy spent months in the future.

Supergirl could dissapear at any time and reappear seconds later when in fact she was in the future for a long time.

[Ogre U AHole]

Ahhhhhhh. I'm so glad I dropped this title now. I don't think anything short of Waid writing her and completely disregarding Loeb's Schzo evil Supergirl, Rucka's Super-tart in Kandor, and now Kelly's Adolescent Angsty Assassin Supergirl would ever get me to try this book again.

[Nobody]

I just don't see the need for Supergirl...

[Palm Trees]

I just hope they start portraying her as an actual immigrant and alien to this planet. Kara grew up on Krypton, she's Kryptonese not a Kryptonian-American like Clark who grew up here on Earth and knows Krypton from book learning.

But my hopes are really low on that front. They'd actually have to decide what they want Krypton to have been like, all sorts of cultural details, which is alot of work. I'm sure she'll just continue to act just like an American teenager.

But what I really want from the title is for a girl who wears a skirt that barely covers her ass when she's standing straight up to flash her underpants when she's doing some aerial acrobatics. American comics are just decades behind manga when it comes to upskirt shots. Time to catch up! :D

[Ogre U AHole]

I just don't see the need for Supergirl.

a girl who wears a skirt that barely covers her ass when she's standing straight up to flash her underpants when she's doing some aerial acrobatics.

And there ya go.

[Mojo Rizin']

Just curious but the article says issue #7 on stands today (June 21), I didn't see any copies, did I miss the issue or was this a mistake?

[I am MODOK]

I stopped pre-ordering for the delays, but I stayed away for the character.

Loeb tricked me into picking up the first story with all the guest stars, but I won't fall for it anymore!

[God-Man]

Just curious but the article says issue #7 on stands today (June 21), I didn't see any copies, did I miss the issue or was this a mistake?

It never came out this week.

[Kal*el]

I really feel the need to keep this book because it's a Super-book, but its so bad. All it does is make me miss Linda.

[Apocolyptus]

Supergirl is a title with alot of potential but to me it doesn't seem they are giving it their best effort. It is very disappointing to hear that Kelly intends on sticking with Loeb's ridiculous notion that Kara was sent to Earth to kill Clark. The book has never had a real focus and has never really adopted a theme which also detracts from the quality.

More disappointing to me then anything is that it looks like Churchill is still penciling this book. I find his faces and figures to be generic and bland and think there are better artists out there (i.e., Benes) that could draw Supergirl better.

I never read David's Supergirl from the 90's as I got into collecting late in the game but everyone seems to think they were great. Maybe I'll pick up a trade or two. It has to be better then what we're getting now.

[BanMan]

Supergirl is a title with alot of potential but to me it doesn't seem they are giving it their best effort. It is very disappointing to hear that Kelly intends on sticking with Loeb's ridiculous notion that Kara was sent to Earth to kill Clark. The book has never had a real focus and has never really adopted a theme which also detracts from the quality.

More disappointing to me then anything is that it looks like Churchill is still penciling this book. I find his faces and figures to be generic and bland and think there are better artists out there (i.e., Benes) that could draw Supergirl better.

I never read David's Supergirl from the 90's as I got into collecting late in the game but everyone seems to think they were great. Maybe I'll pick up a trade or two. It has to be better then what we're getting now.

I thought it WAS Benes pencilling the book and Churchill on covers. Guess everyone's wrong once in their life.

What Kelly really needs to start crackin' on is JLElite vol. 2!

[Wellness]

But what I really want from the title is for a girl who wears a skirt that barely covers her ass when she's standing straight up to flash her underpants when she's doing some aerial acrobatics. American comics are just decades behind manga when it comes to upskirt shots. Time to catch up! :D

So true.

But yeah, Supergirl is feeling like a non entity in the DC universe right now. At least Superboy had the Titans.

[God-Man]

Supergirl is a title with alot of potential but to me it doesn't seem they are giving it their best effort. It is very disappointing to hear that Kelly intends on sticking with Loeb's ridiculous notion that Kara was sent to Earth to kill Clark. The book has never had a real focus and has never really adopted a theme which also detracts from the quality.

Why did Zor-El send Kara to kill Kal-El in the first place? Was that ever revealed?

[Apocolyptus]

Why did Zor-El send Kara to kill Kal-El in the first place? Was that ever revealed?

I believe Kara's father was jealous of his brother's innovation and arrogance for having his son be the planet's sole survivor. So he sent his teenage daughter to kill his nephew.

Of course, if he were really a scientist, he wouldn't have instructed Kara to kill her cousin but (yuck, I know) possibly reproduce with him thus starting to reform Krypton on Earth.

[Unknown]

I always thought that Dark Kara could be explained as a failed revenge scheme by the Anti-Monitor.

But then I like the Anti-Monitor as much as some people here like the Cyborg Superman.

Anti-Monitor as Supergirl rogue...hmm....

[cynic79]

As far as I'm concerned, Supergirl has been a disaster so far. The "Supergirl clobbers DC team of the week" arc never appealed to me, Supergirl as an assassin seems silly, and the Nightwing/Flamebird storyline is just nonsensical so far.

On the plus side, I got a new sig quote from Joe Kelly!

[God-Man]

I believe Kara's father was jealous of his brother's innovation and arrogance for having his son be the planet's sole survivor. So he sent his teenage daughter to kill his nephew.

Wow, that's stupid. That's a joke right?

[KyleV]

Not to threadjack or anything -- and I'm only saying it here because it's the first place I've noticed it -- but Ogre U Ahole is the greatest freaking screen name in the history of the internet.

The icon and caption are icing on the cake.

[astronato]

Ballsy is not what I want. Keep your balls away from Supergirl, teabaggers of the world.

Not sure I like the Kara being sent to kill Superman idea. I'll wait and see. I've waited this long for the book to be what I want so I'll wait some more, lest anyone gets some bright idea to kill her off again.

Supergirl should not get tattooed. At least not permanently. I have nothing against tattoos but that is not what I want in a Supergirl. Especially such a tattoo style that seems so common and dated.

Give me the Supergirl as depicted in the current Legion of Superheroes book. Smart and confident and noble and fun. Sure, put her in Kandor as Flamebird, but does it have to be another dystopia?. Involve her in sci fi and outerspace for sure, but in the Superman mythos the future is almost always bright and shiny. Optimism is what makes the Super mythos unique in 2006. You don't really find that outside of Metropolis or the Super franchise. Give me a Supergirl book like the current Superman and Action Comics.

Ballsy? Supergirl should not be jaded or snarky. Cool but not too cool for school cool. She's is the girl that other girls want to be but can't. The girl that most boys have no chance with. Being perfect must be stressfull. Being nearly omnipotent and not being corrupted by that must be hard. She can have problems but she should be a problem solver. She should be the noble, take charge, leader of the pack as Superman is. Not overly introsepctive, sullen or angst ridden. That is everyone else. Kara shouldn't be Britney Spears either. She should be a suffragette from the stars. But still the "good girl". Clever but not ballsy. She should be super intelligent. i wish they would dust off the Linda Lee Danvers secret identity (not the angel/matrix linda). Make her an A student. Gear her towards college as a student of astronomy or rocket science or something smart. Girls need science and math heroes. I do too.

Resist the urge to give us upskirt cheesecake shots in a book supposedly geared towards girls or women (nudge nudge, wink wink). Nobody loves camel toe and butt cleavage and headlights more than I, but there is Red Sonja for that. That ain't Supergirl. It hasn't been blatant but the skirt and the top could be lower by a few inches and she would still be adored by grown men and not look like your average suburban stripmall stripper in the making.

Give me a Supergirl book with Clark and Lois as supporting players and firmly plant Kara back in the Super universe. More Powergirl as a guest star. More Kara vs Lex Luthor. Brainac vs Kara would be good. Have the Legion of Superheroes time travel in the solo Supergirl book. Have her visit the Fourth World but keep most of the non super mythos specific characters like the outsiders and teen titans away from the book. I didn't like Supergirls tour through the DCU because I mostly don't like the current era DCU. I still like DC's icons though and I'd prefer to see Kara treated like a top tier character. Put Kara in the big leagues with DC's trinity or Hal Jordan. It is an interesting idea that Kara is more alien than Kal. I would imagine that Kal and Powergirl must be fascinated with Kara's experiences on Krypton. Gimme some super family sunday dinner conversations in the Fortress of Solitude.

Joe Kelly made some good stuff in his Space Ghost book that was never there in the cartoons (which I love). He fleshed out and added to the Space Ghost story and universe. He did it in a way that was darker and more mature than the source material but still seemed appropriate for a character from the Alex Toth/HB cartoon universe. I dont want Supergirl to be Space Ghost but Space Ghost was good and that gives me hope things will improve. I like the upcoming covers. These first new issues won't totally be Mr Kelly's vision so i will give it some time...but not forever. I want the full Super service.

[Pascal]

I just don't see the need for Supergirl...if it isn't written by PAD

Fixed. :D :cool:

[md62]

Give me a Supergirl book like the current Superman and Action Comics.

Being perfect must be stressfull. She can have problems but she should be a problem solver. She should be the noble, take charge, leader of the pack as Superman is. Make her an A student. Gear her towards college as a student of astronomy or rocket science or something smart. Girls need science and math heroes. I do too.

Resist the urge to give us upskirt cheesecake shots in a book supposedly geared towards girls or women.

Give me a Supergirl book with Clark and Lois as supporting players and firmly plant Kara back in the Super universe. More Powergirl as a guest star. I would imagine that Kal and Powergirl must be fascinated with Kara's experiences on Krypton. Gimme some super family sunday dinner conversations in the Fortress of Solitude.

These first new issues won't totally be Mr Kelly's vision so i will give it some time...but not forever.

Edited.

I liked all of the above points. I am hoping Kelly will go this way with Kara once he wraps up the Kandor story arc. I am giving Kelly until #12 to give me a Supergirl worth reading.

[Ogre U AHole]

Okay, I'm sold on astronato writing the book. Wait, he isn't. F**k. Seriously, that's like the exact pitch for what I, too, would like to read in a Supergirl book. One caveat, as much as I hate to say or admit it, there is room for a little angst here. That being that 1) Kara is Kryptonian and not human and may find herself socially alienated, and 2) being so "perfect" creates a lot of pressure (as you said) and she may be resented by others for that (high school girls are little b!tches).

But all in all I'd take you over Loeb, Rucka, or Kelly sight unseen just based on the pitch. :)

[Starsky_Hutch76]

Wow. Supergirl was already dissappointing, but I held out hope when I'd heard Rucka was coming on. Then the bad news it would be Kelly. Now this. . As much as I liked the Kara Zor-El character, at least the pre-crisis one, I'm going to have to drop this book. Theis primise just sounds awful.

[astronato]

Okay, I'm sold on astronato writing the book. Wait, he isn't. F**k. Seriously, that's like the exact pitch for what I, too, would like to read in a Supergirl book. One caveat, as much as I hate to say or admit it, there is room for a little angst here. That being that 1) Kara is Kryptonian and not human and may find herself socially alienated, and 2) being so "perfect" creates a lot of pressure (as you said) and she may be resented by others for that (high school girls are little b!tches).

But all in all I'd take you over Loeb, Rucka, or Kelly sight unseen just based on the pitch. :)

I appreciate the compliment but I'm mostly just pointing out stuff thats already there in the mythos.

And I'm not against angst I guess so much as the over use of it.

Mr Kelly did say he had to finish off Mr's Ruckas arc so we shall see where it goes. Space Ghost was good.

[Mojo Rizin']

Article says this issue was supposed to come out last week, we all know it didn't so does anyone know when it is coming out, it's not this week according to shipping lists at Midtown?

[xarkxem]

One thing, Benes penciled #6, #7.

Sad thing, he isn't donig #8+, I like Benes :(

[Delta Ass]

One thing, Benes penciled #6, #7.

Sad thing, he isn't donig #8+, I like Benes :(

Benes on JLA is bound to be good too though.

[Ogre U AHole]

I liked what I've seen of Benes stuff on Birds of Prey, but his Supergirl was horrible. She looked like any other bad girl bimbo in comics. I can't level enough hate at that issue.

[Calax]

having not actually read the series (supposedly it's in the mail) all I can say was that I like how she was potrayed during her initial appearance in S/B.

I liked that she was so innocent and youthful. the fact she was sent to KILL supes as a kid kinda runs contrary to that appearance.

Personally i'd prefer to see hero who's hardly on the social radar in highschool and people are actually scared of them thinking the hero is going to be the school shooter

[kingofcities]

I would have very little interest in this book but for the fact that Joe Kelly is writing it. He's one of the most underrated and misunderstood writers around. I enjoyed the Rucka issue and I think it will be interesting to see how Joe takes the character from this direction.

I'm in. :)