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MattBrady
06-06-2006, 05:25 PM
<I>Press Releases</I>
<b>SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 TO BE RESOLICITED</b>
<blockquote>Please note that all orders for SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 (FEB060290) have been cancelled. This issue will be resolicited at a later date.</blockquote><b>NATIONAL MEDIA OUTLETS PRAISE 52</b>
<blockquote>With the second month of DC Comics' groundbreaking weekly series 52 beginning this week, critical praise from national media outlets continues to grow. Here's what reviewers are saying about 52:
"Ambitious." - The New York Times
"Four of comics' brightest writers seamlessly combine their characterization and conceptualization strengths to construct the gripping real time narrative. Grade: A-" - The Washington Post
"Attempting a high-profile book headlined by third-string heroes, committing to publishing it for a full year and doing so on a weekly schedule... that takes nerves of steel. The kind you'd only expect to find on the last man from Krypton." - The Chicago Tribune
"An unprecedented undertaking... With each issue covering one seven day period, it's the comic-book answer to the real-time format of television's 24." - NewYorkDailyNews.com
"If maladjusted crime fighters, super-villainous conspiracies and secret origins are your thing, 52 may be your lucky number." - Miami Herald
"One of the most ambitious projects the comic industry has seen in a long time." - The Newark Star-Ledger
"52 is magnificent... A unique collaboration that recalls the best of television ensemble writing and plays to the distinct strengths of each comic-book writer. Geoff Johns balances character development with the epic scope of the series; Grant Morrison reimagines the genre trappings of the mad scientist and updates them for the 21st century; novelist Greg Rucka brings a noir edge to the streets of Metropolis and Gotham City; and Mark Waid combines his passion for DC history with his understanding of what makes these icons human. Together, this group of writers - along with cover artist J.G. Jones, artist Keith Giffen and series editor Stephen Wacker - have created an ambitious series that will span from the skies of Metropolis and the streets of Gotham City to China and Australia." - The Philadelphia Daily News
"[A] grand experiment...fun." - Variety.com
"52 encompasses space opera, hard-boiled detective fiction, psychological suspense, light comedy, Grand Guignol violence, medical drama and straight-up good-guys-vs.-bad-guys action, all butting up against one another." - Salon.com
"[52] is off to a great start, setting up an intriguing set of interlocking stories that look to take full advantage of the DC Universe's depth, teaming characters in unexpected arrangements and playing off the emotional aftershocks of INFINITE CRISIS." - The Onion</blockquote>
Action Ace
06-06-2006, 05:30 PM
No Seven Soldiers #1 until at least September at best case scenario. :(
I'm sure it will be worth the wait though.
Kerouac
06-06-2006, 05:35 PM
Wow. I like how they nonchalantly cancelled the book with two matter-of-fact sentences.
Awesome.
Groovie Mann
06-06-2006, 05:40 PM
its not canceled. its being pushed back,resolicitied, when its finished due to morrison and williams busy schedules.
BlueThunderArmy
06-06-2006, 05:41 PM
Please please PLEASE let 7S #1 appear in the next Previews :eek: :(
melperfect
06-06-2006, 05:43 PM
BOOOOOOOOO.
Very poor showing here. This thing was planned so far in advance it should have been completed a loooong time ago. Man, this project has lost momentum (with me anyway).
Ironhorse
06-06-2006, 05:48 PM
<I>Press Releases</I>
<b>SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 TO BE RESOLICITED</b>
<blockquote>Please note that all orders for SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 (FEB060290) have been cancelled. This issue will be resolicited at a later date.</blockquote>
DAMM YOU, DC, :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
AllAboutMe
06-06-2006, 05:56 PM
I was beginning to think I somehow missed 7 Soldiers #1. A truly poor display of scheduling and time management. Been a fantastic bunch of series and now, suddenly Grant and Jim have too busy of schedules....?
Not Daredevil:Father or Spidey/Black Cat embarrassing but close because it is actually a good read...
jmcl89
06-06-2006, 06:03 PM
I hope they haven't been avoiding using the Seven Soldiers characters elsewhere because they were waiting for 7S #1 to come out :(
swanstand
06-06-2006, 06:15 PM
<I>Press Releases</I>
<b>SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 TO BE RESOLICITED</b>
<blockquote>Please note that all orders for SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 (FEB060290) have been cancelled. This issue will be resolicited at a later date.</blockquote>
So, there's no chance that this is a strategic move...maybe to allow time for a new Seven Soldiers ongoing to start with (the now delayed) issue one?
I know it's a crazy one, but these days...
Anyone ask Rich Johnston yet?
exredleg
06-06-2006, 06:19 PM
<I>Press Releases</I>
<b>SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 TO BE RESOLICITED</b>
<blockquote>Please note that all orders for SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 (FEB060290) have been cancelled. This issue will be resolicited at a later date.</blockquote>
What utter BULLSH*T !!! :mad:
C'mon Mr. Morrison and Mr. Williams ... you've had this thing scheduled for MONTHS and now you're going to have to postpone it for God know how many months more ??
Why take on NEW projects if you can't complete the ones you've committed to in the first place.
I'm sure DC is pretty P.O.'d about the news, too ...
Sigh ... what ever happened to that Jack Kirby work ethic ?? :(
tralfaz
06-06-2006, 06:21 PM
I knew this was gonna happen with jh williams on Detective. too bad, ill still get it regardless
Arvandor
06-06-2006, 06:30 PM
At least it's only the one last issue. Most of the series was pretty well scheduled.
Just one last issue. Need it.
eyeinthepi
06-06-2006, 06:33 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
This makes me sad. I need seven soldiers! ;aksjfjasdf!!!!!
batmite7
06-06-2006, 06:50 PM
Everyone should be reminded that Williams stated in an interview on Newsarama a few weeks ago that #1 had been reworked and I think even grew in length so I'm sure that Williams has had to draw and redraw several pages as being received from Morrison. I don't know about others but I would rather have a well written, well drawn conclusion to this great series than a hacked out plot and incoherent art because of people's impatience and the delusion they are owed something. I don't know how a person who is a fan of Morrison's, Williams' or Seven Soldiers would want anything else.
paulski
06-06-2006, 06:54 PM
At the same time though, the cancellation is the right thing - we're not left hanging about whether the issue might be coming out in the next few weeks or even months. Now we know for sure that it's going to be at least September before it's due.
Bad planning, sure, but I prefer their honesty.
Andre MOP
06-06-2006, 07:03 PM
Oh well...
at least they fixed most of their late books
I can wait for this...
Dave_Garcia
06-06-2006, 07:32 PM
Well, I don't want to wait, but I suppose I've got no choice.
I'll just re read Frankenstein for the tenth time :)
Cormorant
06-06-2006, 07:39 PM
I don't know about others but I would rather have a well written, well drawn conclusion to this great series than a hacked out plot and incoherent art because of people's impatience and the delusion they are owed something.
But they ARE owed something. DC solited the book for a particular date, and that solicit is essentially a promise. Maybe the wait will be worth it, maybe it won't, but when something is promised, it IS owed. DC deserves the heat they're getting for their bad business practices, whether the end product is worthy or not.
Dave F.
Kerouac
06-06-2006, 08:00 PM
its not canceled. its being pushed back,resolicitied, when its finished due to morrison and williams busy schedules.
"Please note that all orders for SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 (FEB060290) have been cancelled. This issue will be resolicited at a later date."
So far it hasn't been resolicited. That means it's been cancelled.
It's a temporary cancellation, but cancelled nonetheless.
c_andrew_s
06-06-2006, 08:02 PM
I am cool with the postponement. It is better than getting a series of late issues.
I too am loving 52!:)
Eldritch
06-06-2006, 08:10 PM
Sorry guys, this whole SSoV thing is my fault. I keep toying with the idea of quitting monthly comics altogether when the series wraps up. Morrison most know this, and is just squeezing me for every last cent!
:mad:
Groovie Mann
06-06-2006, 08:12 PM
"Please note that all orders for SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 (FEB060290) have been cancelled. This issue will be resolicited at a later date."
So far it hasn't been resolicited. That means it's been cancelled.
It's a temporary cancellation, but cancelled nonetheless.
:: points to subject title. "seven soldiers #1 to be resolicitied" ::
ColourMan
06-06-2006, 08:36 PM
*sighs* This is the one book I cannot wait to come out, and it's further delayed. Morrison and Williams lose major points for being this late. Comics are meant to come out on a MONTHLY schedule.
daryldens
06-06-2006, 08:48 PM
I am enjoying DC's books more than ever before at the moment, but I think from an editorial/production standpoint they are extremely messed up. I think its pretty sad that those of us who stuck with this event are now being told that we have who knows how long for the finale. Hey, I've enjoyed the ride immensely and do not have anything bad to say about the quality of the work, but I hope DC considers making a gesture to the fans by having the extra pages at a somewhat reduced price like they did with IC #7.
I don't know if its Marvel pillaging a lot of their talent (their scooping of Jeph Loeb has really hurt DC from a chart topping writer perspective whether you like his work or not and I think they pillaged just about every Seven Soldiers artist except Mahnke), or DC is so chaotic from the fall out of Infinite Crisis still or what. Of the top DC exclusive artists, we've yet to see a lot. Perez has given us 1 full (excellent!) issue of JSA, and then had to pinch hit on IC, the Kuberts haven't really released much yet other than covers and variants, Rags Morales has had to deal with some personal issues cutting back his output and severely curtailing his WW work prior to IC, and Ordway and Reis had to be pulled into IC. There is no way Jimenez could have handled IC on his own considering all the characters and pages the mini series contained. Lee and Quitely are now giving us delays, some of them pretty laughable although they may not be their faults, on both the All Star titles. Cooke has been MIA since New Frontier and his GL special. This isn't a slight against any of the creators, and I am totally fine with them taking care of personal issues or whatever, but it's starting to paint an overall picture that has me wondering how much editorial vision DC really has at the moment.
I'm loving 52, but I am starting to worry that the creative cost on the weekly series may not be worth it overall. Based on what I've read from various interviews the writers seem to indicate that the time drain on them is more than what it would normally be on a monthly book. I think we may be giving up six solid monthlies from the four main writers. Johns is still plugging away at GL and Teen Titans, but both of those titles have now experienced consistent delays for a while now, Rucka has had to cut down to pretty much just Checkmate (second issue of which was great!) and Supergirl, another of DC's recent chart toppers has switched hands and made a series that was already delayed even further screwed up. Morrison's Seven Soldiers is now suffering, and the rumors concerning Mark Waid on the title aren't encouraging. Again, I'm not laying blame on these creators, but when I put all this together with amount of OYL that already had to be delayed in their second/third month, some fill in artists on second or third issues and/or changing artists, and the continuity gaffes we've already seen (Shadowpact, Batman/Detective, etc) I just wonder what DC can do to get ahold of the situation and start delivering these excellent stories on a consistent basis like they should.
It further annoys me that Didio's mantra has been he doesn't want people waiting for the trades and wants us picking up the monthlies, yet it seems to be acceptable that the company can't hit their solicited dates or provide multiple creators and fillins to try and make their deadlines.
Oh well, it's only comics, and I have been happy overall with the product. Didn't mean to go on such a rant, and again I don't blame any of the creators or mean to attack them personally. But I do wonder just how much of a handle DC has on things or are we in for more of the same. Maybe it's improving as this week's shipping list was pretty clean.
tdubs
06-06-2006, 09:21 PM
in the interview that Williams gave regarding Detective he stated that the script wasn't even finished at this point and went ahead and took the monthly assignment. The project really lost steam with the last wave of books.
Prometheus3
06-06-2006, 09:24 PM
I am enjoying DC's books more than ever before at the moment, but I think from an editorial/production standpoint they are extremely messed up. I think its pretty sad that those of us who stuck with this event are now being told that we have who knows how long for the finale. Hey, I've enjoyed the ride immensely and do not have anything bad to say about the quality of the work, but I hope DC considers making a gesture to the fans by having the extra pages at a somewhat reduced price like they did with IC #7.
I don't know if its Marvel pillaging a lot of their talent (their scooping of Jeph Loeb has really hurt DC from a chart topping writer perspective whether you like his work or not and I think they pillaged just about every Seven Soldiers artist except Mahnke), or DC is so chaotic from the fall out of Infinite Crisis still or what. Of the top DC exclusive artists, we've yet to see a lot. Perez has given us 1 full (excellent!) issue of JSA, and then had to pinch hit on IC, the Kuberts haven't really released much yet other than covers and variants, Rags Morales has had to deal with some personal issues cutting back his output and severely curtailing his WW work prior to IC, and Ordway and Reis had to be pulled into IC. There is no way Jimenez could have handled IC on his own considering all the characters and pages the mini series contained. Lee and Quitely are now giving us delays, some of them pretty laughable although they may not be their faults, on both the All Star titles. Cooke has been MIA since New Frontier and his GL special. This isn't a slight against any of the creators, and I am totally fine with them taking care of personal issues or whatever, but it's starting to paint an overall picture that has me wondering how much editorial vision DC really has at the moment.
I'm loving 52, but I am starting to worry that the creative cost on the weekly series may not be worth it overall. Based on what I've read from various interviews the writers seem to indicate that the time drain on them is more than what it would normally be on a monthly book. I think we may be giving up six solid monthlies from the four main writers. Johns is still plugging away at GL and Teen Titans, but both of those titles have now experienced consistent delays for a while now, Rucka has had to cut down to pretty much just Checkmate (second issue of which was great!) and Supergirl, another of DC's recent chart toppers has switched hands and made a series that was already delayed even further screwed up. Morrison's Seven Soldiers is now suffering, and the rumors concerning Mark Waid on the title aren't encouraging. Again, I'm not laying blame on these creators, but when I put all this together with amount of OYL that already had to be delayed in their second/third month, some fill in artists on second or third issues and/or changing artists, and the continuity gaffes we've already seen (Shadowpact, Batman/Detective, etc) I just wonder what DC can do to get ahold of the situation and start delivering these excellent stories on a consistent basis like they should.
It further annoys me that Didio's mantra has been he doesn't want people waiting for the trades and wants us picking up the monthlies, yet it seems to be acceptable that the company can't hit their solicited dates or provide multiple creators and fillins to try and make their deadlines.
Oh well, it's only comics, and I have been happy overall with the product. Didn't mean to go on such a rant, and again I don't blame any of the creators or mean to attack them personally. But I do wonder just how much of a handle DC has on things or are we in for more of the same. Maybe it's improving as this week's shipping list was pretty clean.
I want to go find the guy's post that said that DC would ship all of their books on time after Infinite Crisis #7. It makes me chuckle just thinking about it.
nolanjwerner
06-06-2006, 09:30 PM
What the **** is this?
DC blows it again.
Grendel Prime
06-06-2006, 10:33 PM
The DC website still says Seven Soldiers #! "On Sale June 21, 2006".
I can't ever remember anticipating the arrival of a single issue as much as I am (and have been) waiting for SS#1. This series is soooo good, and just gets better when re-read all together. But it's lacking true fulfilment without the finale.
Can't... wait... much... longer...
Akcoll99
06-07-2006, 12:13 AM
Sigh ... what ever happened to that Jack Kirby work ethic ?? :(
It will be brought back to life in a later issue... :D
thingone
06-07-2006, 12:18 AM
"Please note that all orders for SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 (FEB060290) have been cancelled. This issue will be resolicited at a later date."
So far it hasn't been resolicited. That means it's been cancelled.
It's a temporary cancellation, but cancelled nonetheless.
Nope. The orders have been canceled, not the issue or the series.
Akcoll99
06-07-2006, 12:18 AM
I am enjoying DC's books more than ever before at the moment, but I think from an editorial/production standpoint they are extremely messed up. I think its pretty sad that those of us who stuck with this event are now being told that we have who knows how long for the finale. Hey, I've enjoyed the ride immensely and do not have anything bad to say about the quality of the work, but I hope DC considers making a gesture to the fans by having the extra pages at a somewhat reduced price like they did with IC #7.
I don't know if its Marvel pillaging a lot of their talent (their scooping of Jeph Loeb has really hurt DC from a chart topping writer perspective whether you like his work or not and I think they pillaged just about every Seven Soldiers artist except Mahnke), or DC is so chaotic from the fall out of Infinite Crisis still or what. Of the top DC exclusive artists, we've yet to see a lot. Perez has given us 1 full (excellent!) issue of JSA, and then had to pinch hit on IC, the Kuberts haven't really released much yet other than covers and variants, Rags Morales has had to deal with some personal issues cutting back his output and severely curtailing his WW work prior to IC, and Ordway and Reis had to be pulled into IC. There is no way Jimenez could have handled IC on his own considering all the characters and pages the mini series contained. Lee and Quitely are now giving us delays, some of them pretty laughable although they may not be their faults, on both the All Star titles. Cooke has been MIA since New Frontier and his GL special. This isn't a slight against any of the creators, and I am totally fine with them taking care of personal issues or whatever, but it's starting to paint an overall picture that has me wondering how much editorial vision DC really has at the moment.
I'm loving 52, but I am starting to worry that the creative cost on the weekly series may not be worth it overall. Based on what I've read from various interviews the writers seem to indicate that the time drain on them is more than what it would normally be on a monthly book. I think we may be giving up six solid monthlies from the four main writers. Johns is still plugging away at GL and Teen Titans, but both of those titles have now experienced consistent delays for a while now, Rucka has had to cut down to pretty much just Checkmate (second issue of which was great!) and Supergirl, another of DC's recent chart toppers has switched hands and made a series that was already delayed even further screwed up. Morrison's Seven Soldiers is now suffering, and the rumors concerning Mark Waid on the title aren't encouraging. Again, I'm not laying blame on these creators, but when I put all this together with amount of OYL that already had to be delayed in their second/third month, some fill in artists on second or third issues and/or changing artists, and the continuity gaffes we've already seen (Shadowpact, Batman/Detective, etc) I just wonder what DC can do to get ahold of the situation and start delivering these excellent stories on a consistent basis like they should.
It further annoys me that Didio's mantra has been he doesn't want people waiting for the trades and wants us picking up the monthlies, yet it seems to be acceptable that the company can't hit their solicited dates or provide multiple creators and fillins to try and make their deadlines.
Oh well, it's only comics, and I have been happy overall with the product. Didn't mean to go on such a rant, and again I don't blame any of the creators or mean to attack them personally. But I do wonder just how much of a handle DC has on things or are we in for more of the same. Maybe it's improving as this week's shipping list was pretty clean.
I'm a huge DC fan and I like much of what Didio has done in his tenure...but I have to admit that I pretty agree with everything you said. And that whole Shadowpact thing has been bugging the crap out of me too...:mad:
I hope they haven't been avoiding using the Seven Soldiers characters elsewhere because they were waiting for 7S #1 to come out :(
Why should they? Anyone who has read Infinite Crisis 7 already knows which soldier dies. I just can't understand how a series which is chronologically set one week before Infinite Crisis took so much time after it to finish. :(
And regarding the post saying that there will be no more delays after IC#7, well, I think that DC will soon be releasing a statement blaming Superboy Prime's wall-punching for that. ;)
KyleCowstar
06-07-2006, 12:50 AM
I'm pretty mad about this. I'll have to reread the whole damn series again. Aaarrgghhhh!
daryldens
06-07-2006, 01:06 AM
I'm a huge DC fan and I like much of what Didio has done in his tenure...but I have to admit that I pretty agree with everything you said. And that whole Shadowpact thing has been bugging the crap out of me too...:mad:
It annoyed me at first, but Willingham was very up front about it right away and from what I read even Didio admitted it was a continuity gaffe at Philly Wizard World. I think these things are going to happen, and that's unavoidable and a fact when dealing with so many different creators and titles. At least they came right out and admitted it instead of ignoring it or trying to pretend it was some part of the plan. Once they do that, I'm at least satisfied that they recognize the error too and don't think they can sneak it past the readers, and hopefully will try harder to avoid it in the future.
I think we as fans can be too demanding as far as continuity goes, but these recent ones just bug me from the standpoint of the timing. Wasn't Infinite Crisis and One Year Later specifically done to fix these type of things? If the company hadn't made a big deal about how coordinated and planned this was for the last couple of years and how this was the master plan to straighten out the universe I wouldn't be as sensitive to it. It really seems like they set themselves up for the criticism by forcing this One Year Later mandate and having 52 be where that year is laid out as now both Willingham and Robinson had their stories prepared before these new structures were in place. I hope it didn't turn people off as I think both Willingham and Robinson are delivering excellent work and it's unfortunate that continuity mistakes have crept in. As you mentioned it can be an annoyance.
Now I wish they'd just drop the week 4 day X captions out of 52 as I think it doesn't add all that much to the story and just opens themselves up to more minor continuity issues. I think we would all be able to accept a little more fluidity in the specific timelines if DC wasn't setting up the events so much with specific timing so we could avoid the kvetching like 'How can Ralph wait so many days before doing such and such'.
I will also echo your praise for a lot of the changes in storytelling and assigning top talent to the top characters that Didio has done. I may bitch about things, but as I said I am enjoying the DC books more now than I ever have. I just wish they would have a little more stability with their creative teams and their ship dates.
swanstand
06-07-2006, 04:18 AM
I'm a huge DC fan and I like much of what Didio has done in his tenure...but I have to admit that I pretty agree with everything you said. And that whole Shadowpact thing has been bugging the crap out of me too...:mad:
What was the Shadowpact error? I read it and didn't notice anything.
:confused:
Goat warrior
06-07-2006, 04:27 AM
both Willingham and Robinson had their stories prepared before these new structures were in place. I hope it didn't turn people off as I think both Willingham and Robinson are delivering excellent work and it's unfortunate that continuity mistakes have crept in. As you mentioned it can be an annoyance.
What mistakes did they make ? (I didn't read Shadowpact, and I don't remember what Robinson did in Detective)
Blind Assassin
06-07-2006, 05:16 AM
So, there's no chance that this is a strategic move...maybe to allow time for a new Seven Soldiers ongoing to start with (the now delayed) issue one?
I know it's a crazy one, but these days...
Anyone ask Rich Johnston yet?
I can't tell you how many customers have been coming in for weeks going 'where is 7 soldiers'?
Now at least I can tell them that it has been cancelled and will be re-solicited at a later date.
lorshas
06-07-2006, 05:26 AM
about 52 how would it be rated if:
it came monthly , is knowing that the next one is next week make it better?
you read it as a trade after 48 weeks, is knowing that things are finished take something away?
Dougie02
06-07-2006, 08:09 AM
"Please note that all orders for SEVEN SOLDIERS #1 (FEB060290) have been cancelled. This issue will be resolicited at a later date."
So far it hasn't been resolicited. That means it's been cancelled.
It's a temporary cancellation, but cancelled nonetheless.
You are splitting hairs and being a jerk.
I'll be happyto have 7S1 whenever it is ready to be released.
kingofcities
06-07-2006, 08:37 AM
No SSOV? :(
At risk of stating the obvious, why not get another artist? J.H. Williams is a god but I still don't want to wait 6 months or whatever for him to wrap up a run on Batman. This project has already been created through the hard work of Morrison and a pack of talented artists so why not just add one more to the mix? You know all the times you post on this board or ask a friend "What happened to _______? I'd love to see them on a new book". Well, how about this book? I'd love to see someone like, for example, P. Craig Russell on a project like this. There are too many fantastic artists not being given opportunities as it is so instead of wasting that talent, hook them up here and make the fans happy as well. Win, win.
The only reason why I'd end up being happy with this long a$$ wait is if, as another poster "hail mary" suggested that maybe this is all part of some launch of a Seven Soldiers related project at the end of the road. Dare to dream... ;)
jmcl89
06-07-2006, 08:44 AM
What was the Shadowpact error? I read it and didn't notice anything.
:confused:
The first was that Superman was in it, despite having lost his powers in the wake of IC.
Also, it appears Detective Chimp is in one of the upcoming issues of 52, despite the Shadowpact having been trapped in that dome thing for the entire year.
bsmith
06-07-2006, 08:52 AM
For crying out loud...similar to another poster, I got back into comics with ID Crisis, then saw 7 Soldiers coming down the pipeline and committed to it. Once it was done, Inf Crisis would have also been done and I would have been back to buying trades only.
At this point it would have been better to buy 7 Soldiers in trades! vol. 3 is out soon!
poor scheduling all around, and I normally have no complaints about this by DC...
BSmith
swanstand
06-07-2006, 08:52 AM
The first was that Superman was in it, despite having lost his powers in the wake of IC.
Also, it appears Detective Chimp is in one of the upcoming issues of 52, despite the Shadowpact having been trapped in that dome thing for the entire year.
A-ha! Yes...those would certainly be errors. :D
Thanks for that.
Nukeboy
06-07-2006, 09:46 AM
The first was that Superman was in it, despite having lost his powers in the wake of IC.
Also, it appears Detective Chimp is in one of the upcoming issues of 52, despite the Shadowpact having been trapped in that dome thing for the entire year.
The Superman thing is a screw up. There is no explaining it away. Willingham has been honest about it. I actually appreciate the truth and can move on.
The Detective Chimp thing remains to be seen. We don't know how long after the end of IC and beginning of 52 that the Shadowpact go into the dome. Could be a couple months give or take. That would give Detective Chimp time to be in 52 and then go into the dome. The one year in the dome doesn't have to synch up exactly with the OYL jump done in the DC titles.
I will read 52 before I pass judgement.
MitchHundred
06-07-2006, 11:19 AM
awesome. so i'll get the trade in what...february?
kingofcities
06-07-2006, 11:58 AM
awesome. so i'll get the trade in what...february?
Of 2008. :p
Proud Texan
06-07-2006, 12:18 PM
Unbelievable. I'm removing Seven Soldiers from my pull list today. I do not care that there is only one issue left, and that I've bought all 29 issues up until now.
hey all, just wanted to pipe in here and give my two cents for what it's worth. i apologize that seven soldiers has gotten so screwed up. the script wasn't fully ready until recently and i needed to have some work so i did a single issue for detective. i know that DC has solicited the following issue of detective as me doing that as well. however that is wrong info. i had to finish the 821 issue of detective while waiting on script for seven soldiers. that came in while working on detective so now i am fully working on seven soldiers fulltime. but one of the other reasons it will take so long is that it will be a monster of a task. the issue is loaded with all kinds of stuff that is taking some serious care from the drawing side of things. hopefully you will all see what i mean when the issue does make it to your book shelf. i will be returning to batman stuff when seven soldiers finally wraps:D
Proud Texan
06-07-2006, 01:12 PM
hey all, just wanted to pipe in here and give my two cents for what it's worth.
And I'm sure that no one will begrudge you for making a living. I wish you the best in your future endeavors, and hopefully you won't be put in a situation again where you have to take your time to explain what is going on, rather than the publisher doing so.
kingofcities
06-07-2006, 01:13 PM
hey all, just wanted to pipe in here and give my two cents for what it's worth. i apologize that seven soldiers has gotten so screwed up. the script wasn't fully ready until recently and i needed to have some work so i did a single issue for detective. i know that DC has solicited the following issue of detective as me doing that as well. however that is wrong info. i had to finish the 821 issue of detective while waiting on script for seven soldiers. that came in while working on detective so now i am fully working on seven soldiers fulltime. but one of the other reasons it will take so long is that it will be a monster of a task. the issue is loaded with all kinds of stuff that is taking some serious care from the drawing side of things. hopefully you will all see what i mean when the issue does make it to your book shelf. i will be returning to batman stuff when seven soldiers finally wraps:D
Thanks for the heads up. It's nice to know there things stand. :)
ShamrockLad
06-07-2006, 05:38 PM
hey all, just wanted to pipe in here and give my two cents for what it's worth. i apologize that seven soldiers has gotten so screwed up. the script wasn't fully ready until recently and i needed to have some work so i did a single issue for detective. i know that DC has solicited the following issue of detective as me doing that as well. however that is wrong info. i had to finish the 821 issue of detective while waiting on script for seven soldiers. that came in while working on detective so now i am fully working on seven soldiers fulltime. but one of the other reasons it will take so long is that it will be a monster of a task. the issue is loaded with all kinds of stuff that is taking some serious care from the drawing side of things. hopefully you will all see what i mean when the issue does make it to your book shelf. i will be returning to batman stuff when seven soldiers finally wraps:D
I've said it before and I'll say it again, but I love it when creators take a few minutes to explain why an issue is late. Dan Slott did it with She Hulk and Thing and Mr Williams (I'm guessing only your friends call ya JH :D ) did th same.
Thanks for the post and I'm looking forward to getting the final product. Best of luck with it!
paulski
06-07-2006, 06:30 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, but I love it when creators take a few minutes to explain why an issue is late.
Quoted for truth.
Thanks, JH. :)
bsmith
06-08-2006, 06:16 AM
Thanks JH, based on your article about Detective I gathered it was a script issue, not waiting on art...nevertheless we appreciate your candour and heads up. You're one heck of an artist, IMO.
I think what bothers me is it's been in the planning stages for so long, and Morrison (whose work I adore) is loading himself up so much with other stuff that it's having us wait longer for a series that most of us think is A-1.
Bsmith
Jeremy Holstein
06-08-2006, 12:25 PM
hey all, just wanted to pipe in here and give my two cents for what it's worth. i apologize that seven soldiers has gotten so screwed up. the script wasn't fully ready until recently and i needed to have some work so i did a single issue for detective. i know that DC has solicited the following issue of detective as me doing that as well. however that is wrong info. i had to finish the 821 issue of detective while waiting on script for seven soldiers. that came in while working on detective so now i am fully working on seven soldiers fulltime. but one of the other reasons it will take so long is that it will be a monster of a task. the issue is loaded with all kinds of stuff that is taking some serious care from the drawing side of things. hopefully you will all see what i mean when the issue does make it to your book shelf. i will be returning to batman stuff when seven soldiers finally wraps:D
Huzzah! Thanks, JHW. The lack of information on this final issue has been driving me crazy, so this update is most welcome. Look forward to seeing how you and Grant wrap things up.
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