MARVEL PREVIEWS FOR APRIL 12th [Archive]

MattBrady

03-21-2006, 12:04 PM

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Apr_previews/april12th.htm"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Apr_previews/thumbs/MSMARV002_cov_COL.jpg" border="0" width="154" height="248" align="right" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a>Marvel has a light schedule of previews for titles shipping April 12th, with just Ms. Marvel #2 surfacing so far. But that said, you got eight pages this time instead of six, so enjoy...

<blockquote>It’s a good, old-fashioned alien invasion as the Brood touchdown on Earth in Ms. Marvel #2. But are the Brood looking to take over the planet or are they using Earth to hide from an even greater threat?

Featuring the debut of a powerful new villain, Ms. Marvel #2 continues Brian Reed and Roberto De La Torre’s reintroduction of Ms. Marvel as one of the premiere superheroes in the Marvel Universe.

Comiccritique.com says, “Ms. Marvel #1 was a solid book that I think could easily be a five star series…Carol Danvers is finally getting the respect she deserves.”

Combine an amazing creative team, glowing reviews AND a gorgeous cover by Frank Cho and Ms. Marvel #2 is one issue that has it all.</blockquote>Click <a href=http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Apr_previews/april12th.htm>here</a> for the full previews...

skinnyboy23

03-21-2006, 05:13 PM

nice looking preview. very cool.

Gordon McAlpin

03-21-2006, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by skinnyboy23
nice looking preview. very cool.

Agreed, except for that page where you can see like twenty planets and their moons. I mean, come ON. What's wrong with just leaving it a frickin' star field, people?! :rolleyes:

palefire

03-21-2006, 05:20 PM

very niiiiiiice.

EmeraldGuy32

03-21-2006, 05:25 PM

sloria13

03-21-2006, 05:28 PM

Love that cover. Looking forward to this.

On an aside, what does it matter what the background looks like? I don't get it.

Bobby Nash

03-21-2006, 05:28 PM

Looks good. I enjoyed the first issue.

Skatonic10

03-21-2006, 05:30 PM

Yeah, this series is just going to continue to be great

Bedlam66

03-21-2006, 05:44 PM

This book rocks.

Gordon McAlpin

03-21-2006, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by sloria13
On an aside, what does it matter what the background looks like? I don't get it.

Well, it's part of the art. And it looks ludicrous. It ruins the page for me.

Nevermind that it was done in Photoshop, so it looks jarring, but me, I kind of like it when superhero books are set against a reasonably realistic backdrop, and there is no place in the universe (outside of Infinite Crisis) with that many planets that close together.

Kolimar

03-21-2006, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by skinnyboy23
nice looking preview. very cool.

Ditto.

Kolimar

03-21-2006, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by Gordon McAlpin
Agreed, except for that page where you can see like twenty planets and their moons. I mean, come ON. What's wrong with just leaving it a frickin' star field, people?! :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Gordon McAlpin
Well, it's part of the art. And it looks ludicrous. It ruins the page for me.

Nevermind that it was done in Photoshop, so it looks jarring, but me, I kind of like it when superhero books are set against a reasonably realistic backdrop, and there is no place in the universe (outside of Infinite Crisis) with that many planets that close together.

I agree with you and, while I don't mind a whole lot, sometimes I kinda miss the old days when the artists didn't have photoshop. :D

Roy Batty

03-21-2006, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by Gordon McAlpin
Agreed, except for that page where you can see like twenty planets and their moons. I mean, come ON. What's wrong with just leaving it a frickin' star field, people?! :rolleyes:

Yeah, it looks kinda silly to me too...

Besides that, this book is feeling more and more like one of those we will be looking back on very fondly over the years...

Then I could be wrong, of course. Let's wait and see.

Mick

03-21-2006, 06:43 PM

Is car throwing going to be a running theme in this series? Because that'd be awesome.

ErictheRed

03-21-2006, 06:54 PM

Broodwich, Yummy!

NightRiver

03-21-2006, 06:57 PM

Kick ass Preview! Im so happy with this series so far! Brian Reed maybe a break out writer this year! Congrats!

AreJaye

03-21-2006, 08:04 PM

April 12th?!?!?! I have to wait until April freaking 12th?!?!?!

This book should be weekly. Seriously I've loved the 1 1/4 issues we've gotten so far that much.

April ____ing 12th. That's just mean.

UX-Gal

03-21-2006, 08:06 PM

I see that Ms. Marvel, much like Supergirl, suffers from over-long torso.

Oh well, I pre-ordered this, hope it's cool. Action looks nice, and appart from slight anatomy issues, the artwork looks nice as well.

n8grey

03-21-2006, 08:20 PM

I wonder if they will play up Ms. Marvel's X-Men ties in this book. I know the brood are showing up but I kinda wanna see more. She spent alot of time hanging out with those crazy mutants. I personally allways wanted her to join that team.

R A Renteria

03-21-2006, 08:23 PM

Vyper

03-21-2006, 08:48 PM

I was very pleasantly surprised by the first issue, and have added this to my pull list.

I just hope they can keep Frank Cho doing the covers past issue 6.

AreJaye

03-21-2006, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by n8grey
I wonder if they will play up Ms. Marvel's X-Men ties in this book. I know the brood are showing up but I kinda wanna see more. She spent alot of time hanging out with those crazy mutants. I personally allways wanted her to join that team.

Carol Danvers is the Kevin Bacon of the Marvel Universe. You can connect her to virtually any character in six or less steps. Seriously. Anyone who doubts me, throw out a name, and I'll bet you I can do it.

That being said, I sincerely doubt, if this book continues on, Reed will be able to ignore Carol's various ties. Dan Slott, who doesn't even write her in any book, is including her in either SHE-HULK or THE THING in June (according to the solicitations), but bringing her back into Ben's poker games (Something she hasn't done since MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE and MARVEL FANFARE back in the 80's).

And, I would call Carol an 'unofficial' ex-X-Man. She never got a cover declaring "Welcome to the X-Men Carol Danvers - Hope you Survive the Experience!" But she did appear in the majority of the issues from UNCANNY X-MEN #158 - #171, and not just as a background character. She went on missions with them and fought alongside them. It's clear that Carol didn't consider herself part of the team when Rogue showed up, but I think from the way Storm(?) spoke to her in that issue that the others did.

The Champion

03-21-2006, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by AreJaye
Carol Danvers is the Kevin Bacon of the Marvel Universe.

Nah, Rick Jones is the Kevin Bacon of the Marvel Universe. He knows everybody.

Paladin

03-21-2006, 10:48 PM

Isn't her old costume supposed to make a comeback? Or was it just the name that was returning? :confused:

n8grey

03-21-2006, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by AreJaye
Carol Danvers is the Kevin Bacon of the Marvel Universe. You can connect her to virtually any character in six or less steps. Seriously. Anyone who doubts me, throw out a name, and I'll bet you I can do it.

Ok here are seven random marvel charactor I chalenge you to spell out the six steps on which each of them can be traced back to Ms Marvel. You get major props if you can get them all.

The Runaways
Magnus (the robot)
Hub
Thorn
Collective Man
Doop
Speedball

AreJaye

03-21-2006, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by n8grey
Ok here are seven random marvel charactor I chalenge you to spell out the six steps on which each of them can be traced back to Ms Marvel. You get major props if you can get them all.

The Runaways -disbanded and put into foster care by Captain America who served on the Avengers with Carol Danvers. (2)

Magnus (the robot) - Do you mean Magus, as in Warlock's father? Because I can't find a robot named Magnus. If so, Magus fathered Warlock who Bonded with Cypher who dated Kitty Pryde who was an X-Man with Wolverine who has a business and romantic connection to Carol Danvers. (5)

Hub - You're going to have to give me some leeway here. I didn't read the 2004 EXCALIBUR until the HOUSE OF M lead in. . .so, assuming there was some interaction between Hub and:

Xavier who helped Carol Danvers recover after Rogue's attack. (2)
Magneto who is the father of Scarlet Witch who was an Avenger with Carol Danvers. (3)
Calisto who was a rival of Storm who was an X-Man with Rogue who almost killed Carol Danvers. (4)
Unus who fought Marvel Girl who was romantically linked to Wolverine who has a relationship with Carol Danvers. (4)

If none of those work, give me a little more context.

Thorn - Villain of the Punisher who served with Daredevil in Marvel Knights. Daredevil was once bodyguarded by Jessica Jones who is a friend of Carol Danvers (4)

Collective Man - fought the Hulk who is cousins with Jennifer Walters (She-Hulk) who served on the Avengers with Carol Danvers (3)

Doop - has an undisclosed relationship with Wolverine who is one of Carol's best friends. (2)

Speedball - Served on the New Warriors with Rage who served on the Avengers with Captain America who served on the Avengers with Carol Danvers. (3)

How's that?

AreJaye

03-21-2006, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by The Champion
Nah, Rick Jones is the Kevin Bacon of the Marvel Universe. He knows everybody.

Rick Jones was the partner of Captain America who was on the Avengers with Carol Danvers. :D

Mike S Miller

03-22-2006, 01:26 AM

Nice. That's some sweet looking stuff!

colecash

03-22-2006, 03:27 AM

wow, nice art! reminds very much of Adam Pollina's work. Whatever happened to him by the way? He was definitely one of the more original artists coming out of Marvel in the late 1990's.

Whipsnakes

03-22-2006, 03:51 AM

Originally posted by AreJaye
The Runaways -disbanded and put into foster care by Captain America who served on the Avengers with Carol Danvers. (2)

Magnus (the robot) - Do you mean Magus, as in Warlock's father? Because I can't find a robot named Magnus. If so, Magus fathered Warlock who Bonded with Cypher who dated Kitty Pryde who was an X-Man with Wolverine who has a business and romantic connection to Carol Danvers. (5)

Hub - You're going to have to give me some leeway here. I didn't read the 2004 EXCALIBUR until the HOUSE OF M lead in. . .so, assuming there was some interaction between Hub and:

Xavier who helped Carol Danvers recover after Rogue's attack. (2)
Magneto who is the father of Scarlet Witch who was an Avenger with Carol Danvers. (3)
Calisto who was a rival of Storm who was an X-Man with Rogue who almost killed Carol Danvers. (4)
Unus who fought Marvel Girl who was romantically linked to Wolverine who has a relationship with Carol Danvers. (4)

If none of those work, give me a little more context.

Thorn - Villain of the Punisher who served with Daredevil in Marvel Knights. Daredevil was once bodyguarded by Jessica Jones who is a friend of Carol Danvers (4)

Collective Man - fought the Hulk who is cousins with Jennifer Walters (She-Hulk) who served on the Avengers with Carol Danvers (3)

Doop - has an undisclosed relationship with Wolverine who is one of Carol's best friends. (2)

Speedball - Served on the New Warriors with Rage who served on the Avengers with Captain America who served on the Avengers with Carol Danvers. (3)

How's that?

WoW
Well Done Sir.

SDMueller

03-22-2006, 05:58 AM

The whole dozens of planets in a scene thing comes from the Kirby cosmic era. Personally I agree that a more realistic starfield would be much more visually appealing.

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If, as the TV promo seems to imply, the public knows Carol Danvers is Ms. Marvel why does she still wear a mask?

Goodhomerjay

03-22-2006, 05:58 AM

She always is and always will be... Carol Danvers rules, no matter what silly codename she has! :cool:

Amoebas

03-22-2006, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by AreJaye
Rick Jones was the partner of Captain America who was on the Avengers with Carol Danvers. :D While that's one step - I'd say there's a more direct route...

Rick Jones didn't want to share Captain Marvel's body and Carol Danvers did.:D

As for the preview - the first issue was so so for me. I've pre-ordered #2 but unless it wows me I won't be back ordering #3.

This preview doesn't wow me. Apart from the much discussed photoshop mess what I didn't care for was just how long Carol waited before going into action against the brood.

I know that the time between panels can be nanoseconds or years - but the way the art flows leads me to feel that looong seconds go by while she just watches the Brood attack. It's not until someone cries for help that she bolts in to the rescue. Didn't feel right to me.

AreJaye

03-22-2006, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by Amoebas
While that's one step - I'd say there's a more direct route...

Rick Jones didn't want to share Captain Marvel's body and Carol Danvers did.:D

As for the preview - the first issue was so so for me. I've pre-ordered #2 but unless it wows me I won't be back ordering #3.

This preview doesn't wow me. Apart from the much discussed photoshop mess what I didn't care for was just how long Carol waited before going into action against the brood.

I know that the time between panels can be nanoseconds or years - but the way the art flows leads me to feel that looong seconds go by while she just watches the Brood attack. It's not until someone cries for help that she bolts in to the rescue. Didn't feel right to me.

Remember tho', from issue #1 - Carol was shot out of the sky and knocked unconscious by the fall. She wasn't 'all there' when she woke up and saw the Brood running wild. It took her a few seconds to steady herself.

Remember also what happened the last time Carol went against them. They have a history, and its not a pretty one. Honestly, putting her up against The Brood this early on is rather cruel on Reed's part.

Da_Black_Goku

03-22-2006, 08:45 AM

I'm going to collect this TPB. I think this is a great looking series.

LoganSan

03-22-2006, 08:48 AM

The art does looks great (i didn't mind the
moons/planets & I love Kirbyesque stuff),
but I found these preview pages to be
'average' in terms of content. And while I do
enjoy Carol's meaty thighs, I always look
for a story with a hook. Having said that,
I've always loved the Brood since day one,
so I 'might' give this series a shot, if it turns
into something more than throwing cars.

Spartan

03-22-2006, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by AreJaye
Remember tho', from issue #1 - Carol was shot out of the sky and knocked unconscious by the fall. She wasn't 'all there' when she woke up and saw the Brood running wild. It took her a few seconds to steady herself.

Remember also what happened the last time Carol went against them. They have a history, and its not a pretty one. Honestly, putting her up against The Brood this early on is rather cruel on Reed's part.

Loving the series so far, the character seems like a lot of fun.

Can anyone explain or give me the gist of what her previous relation with the Brood is?

Gladiator X

03-22-2006, 09:19 AM

Man!That looks sweet!

Can't wait to read #1 which is on the truck for delivery to my house today which should make the wait for #2 a little less painful.

Robio

03-22-2006, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Mick
Is car throwing going to be a running theme in this series? Because that'd be awesome.

Yeah I noticed that too. It's all good though. Cap throws his shield, Carol throws cars.

j2lepew

03-22-2006, 10:12 AM

Some of you who have nitpicky points are making somewhat valid points at that. But the series is looking nice, and in just reading the story and seeing where the plot is going, I'm having fun. This new series is what comics should be all about.

Still, Jack Kirby and even John Byrne have taken liberties with what is lying out there in outer space with the planets and all, so let's give the new guy some leeway too.

Now, for that challenge with the characters:

Swamp Thing
Kid Eternity
Bouncing Boy
Ambush Bug
Lobo

(Hey, you said any characters. You didn't mention from which universe.)

Tomcat1066

03-22-2006, 11:19 AM

April 12 can't get here fast enough now.

Tom

Spartan

03-22-2006, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by j2lepew
Now, for that challenge with the characters:

Swamp Thing
Kid Eternity
Bouncing Boy
Ambush Bug
Lobo

(Hey, you said any characters. You didn't mention from which universe.) [/B]

That's pretty weak. Why not list characters like Jesus, Alf, or the A-Team while you're at it?

myk

03-22-2006, 12:45 PM

so where/what are the escape pods on a uhhh...space fish
(and yes, i registered just to ask that)?

IvCNuB4

03-22-2006, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by Robio
Yeah I noticed that too. It's all good though. Cap throws his shield, Carol throws cars.

Now if Carol could just learn how to make the cars she throws return back to her ;)

myk

03-22-2006, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by j2lepew
Some of you who have nitpicky points are making somewhat valid points at that. But the series is looking nice, and in just reading the story and seeing where the plot is going, I'm having fun. This new series is what comics should be all about.

Still, Jack Kirby and even John Byrne have taken liberties with what is lying out there in outer space with the planets and all, so let's give the new guy some leeway too.

Now, for that challenge with the characters:

Swamp Thing
Kid Eternity
Bouncing Boy
Ambush Bug
Lobo

(Hey, you said any characters. You didn't mention from which universe.)

oh! oh! let me try!

carol danvers knows wolverine (see above). wolverine joined/fused with batman during those godawfull amalgam
comics awhile back. batman knows ambush bug; ambush bug met sandman in, what i believe was the last ambush bug special. i assume all those other characters sleep so sandman knows 'em.

that is 5 steps, does that count? there may be more direct ways but i don't really know the dc universe too well, and more importantly i don't really care.

AreJaye

03-22-2006, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by j2lepew
Some of you who have nitpicky points are making somewhat valid points at that. But the series is looking nice, and in just reading the story and seeing where the plot is going, I'm having fun. This new series is what comics should be all about.

Still, Jack Kirby and even John Byrne have taken liberties with what is lying out there in outer space with the planets and all, so let's give the new guy some leeway too.

Now, for that challenge with the characters:

Swamp Thing
Kid Eternity
Bouncing Boy
Ambush Bug
Lobo

(Hey, you said any characters. You didn't mention from which universe.)

Yeah, I did. "Carol Danvers is the Kevin Bacon of the Marvel Universe".

But if you want to press the issue, just connect any of the above characters to Batman is 5 or less steps.

Batman and Wolverine were the Amalgam Universe's Dark Claw, and Dark Claw was partners with the Amalgam Universe's Huntress, who was. . . you guessed it: Carol Danvers!

:D

AreJaye

03-22-2006, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Spartan
Loving the series so far, the character seems like a lot of fun.

Can anyone explain or give me the gist of what her previous relation with the Brood is?

In UNCANNY X-MEN (Circa #161 - 169), the X-Men (and Carol, if you don't count her as a member) were kidnapped by The Brood. The entire team were infected with Brood eggs, and Carol was taken and experimented on. The Brood were fascinated by her mutated genetic structure. Their experiments eventually led to Carol becoming Binary.

AreJaye

03-22-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Spartan
That's pretty weak. Why not list characters like Jesus, Alf, or the A-Team while you're at it?

Jesus was tempted by Satan who's son (Son of Satan) was married to Hellcat who was rescued from Hell by Hawkeye who served on the Avengers with Carol Danvers.

Alf had adventures with the Echh Men, who had a Melmac version of the Mutant super hero Rogue who attacked and almost killed Carol Danvers.

The A-Team starred Mr. T who was in Not Another Teen Movie with Chris Evans who played Johnny Storm who shared an embarassing night in Las Vegas with Carol Danvers.

Doubt me at your own peril!

Spartan

03-22-2006, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by AreJaye
Jesus was tempted by Satan who's son (Son of Satan) was married to Hellcat who was rescued from Hell by Hawkeye who served on the Avengers with Carol Danvers.

Alf had adventures with the Echh Men, who had a Melmac version of the Mutant super hero Rogue who attacked and almost killed Carol Danvers.

The A-Team starred Mr. T who was in Not Another Teen Movie with Chris Evans who played Johnny Storm who shared an embarassing night in Las Vegas with Carol Danvers.

Doubt me at your own peril!

The master has spoken. :D

Punchy

03-22-2006, 06:18 PM

I thought that The Thing was the Kevin Bacon?

I mean Slott used the joke on this site, and in the comic!

AreJaye

03-23-2006, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by Punchy
I thought that The Thing was the Kevin Bacon?

I mean Slott used the joke on this site, and in the comic!

I don't read THING, so I must claim ignorance of Dan Slott's comments in this matter. However, isn't using a character like Ben Grimm . . .well, cheating?

You could make a similar claim with Wolverine, Spider-Man, Captain America or The Hulk. But really, where's the challenge there? The fun? The Thing, on average, has made at least one appearance every month since his debut in 1961. At least. At times, he's had his own book, starred in MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE, appeared in Cross-Over books (SECRET WARS), and today is appearing in FANTASTIC FOUR, THE THING and MK4.

Conversely, Carol, who has been around almost as long as The Thing (1961 vs. 1967) has had considerably less appearances, making it not only more fun to connect her with any Marvel Universe character (and in some cases, characters outside the MU!), it makes it more impressive. Its why the 'real' game is played with Kevin Bacon, and someone a little more prolific.