DC ONE YEAR LATER PREVIEWS - DAY 3

[MattBrady]

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/OYLpreviews/day3.html"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/OYLpreviews/bop92-.jpg" border="0" align="right"></a>Day 3 of our special six-day, 17 title DC “One Year Later” preview continues with looks at March's <b>Birds of Prey #92</b>, <b>Blue Beetle #1</b>, and <b>Manhunter #20</b>.

<p>As a reminder, every day from this past Tuesday to next Tuesday (with a few days off in-between for this week’s <I>New York Comic-Con</I>), Newsarama and DC have arranged special previews of nearly <I>all</I> of March’s OYL titles. Look for a new patch of three previews each afternoon [cough, cough] through their March 1st premier.

<p>And in case you missed a segment:

<p><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/OYLpreviews/day1.html"><b>OYL Previews: Day 1</b></a> - <i>Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis #40</i>, <i>Catwoman #53</i>, <i>Hawkgirl #50</i>

<p><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/OYLpreviews/day2.html"><b>OYL Previews: Day 1</b></a> - <i>Firestorm: The Nuclear Man #23</i>, <i>JSA #83</i>, <i>Green Arrow #60</i>

<p>Onward...

<p><b>BIRDS OF PREY #92</b>
Written by Gail Simone
Art by Paulo Siqueira & Robin Riggs
Cover by Terry & Rachel Dodson
It’s One Year Later…and the Birds have a new mission — with a new lineup that will shock you! Don’t miss new art team Paulo Siqueira (Lady Death: Lost Souls) & Robin Riggs (JSA, SUPERGIRL) as they join acclaimed writer Gail Simone for a turning point in the history of the Birds of Prey!
On sale March 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

Click <a href="http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/OYLpreviews/day3.html">here</a> for the full previews...

[Tiger47]

good stuff.

[SonOfZod]

I think that Blue Beetle preview could show that like I thought the Guy Gardner scene happens before OYL, and may mean that he's still be up for the Could Be Gone question.

[dryponder]

man cully is drawing the hell out of those BB pages. rock on dude.

[melibell21]

birds of prey looks freakin sweet!!! omg im so excited

blue beetle...meh. i don't know y its being so hyped. i'm gonna give it a try tho.

wonder what they'll post tomorrow. i was waiting for bop and i got it!! yay, maybe some titans tomorrow!

[matchesmalone]

The artwork on Birds of Prey is disappointing - it looks like fill-in quality pencilling. DC once again goes cheap by hiring someone who's not a known quantity in the United States.

[Bedlam66]

WOOT more OYL Goodness.

[UberShep]

It was a smart move on Gail's part to establish the Calculator as the evil version of Barbara. One of the best tension set ups in comics recently.

[melibell21]

Originally posted by matchesmalone
The artwork on Birds of Prey is disappointing - it looks like fill-in quality pencilling. DC once again goes cheap by hiring someone who's not a known quantity in the United States.

artwork is def bad. that's the one thing bop is lacking right now. wut happened to joe bennet? he was decent. and benes is busy on jl of a soon. wut r we bop fans gonna do?

[Groovie Mann]

Originally posted by melibell21
artwork is def bad. that's the one thing bop is lacking right now. wut happened to joe bennet? he was decent. and benes is busy on jl of a soon. wut r we bop fans gonna do?

whats wrong with it? i think it looks damn good.

the manhunter preview is great. more poeple need to buy that series. come on people.

[djshalope]

blue beetle looks great. at least i'll be nabbing one OYL book.

[ghostly1]

So, why doesn't Oracle have an operative named Canary?

And yay, she's not walking!

[skinnyboy23]

i like the BOP art. its kind of dobson esque but not too sexy. it could use some sharper lines, though.

[melperfect]

Originally posted by Groovie Mann
the manhunter preview is great. more poeple need to buy that series. come on people.

That's for sure, one of the best books running right now. Buy it!

Damn those Blue Beetle pages look sweet! I love that design, sold for sure now.

[Ranadiel]

Originally posted by ghostly1
So, why doesn't Oracle have an operative named Canary?

And yay, she's not walking!
Wow that last line sounds mean....even though I share the sentiment. As for why she doesn't havean operative named Canaray, it could be any number of things from codename changes, lieing, Canary currently being undercover, or Canary getting promoted to partner(or soemthing other then operative).

[TheCatalyst]

So I'm confused... wasn't Blue Beetle shown to have found the Scarab within the pages of Infinite Crisis? Now he's shown in the above preview finding the scarab, but under different circumstances. Am I missing something, remembering this incorrectly (I don't have the issue in front of me) or did somebody screw up somewhere?

:confused:

[MacQuarrie]

I really like the BOP art! It has some of that pseudo-photrealism, along with some nice stylistic touches, and really great dynamic panel layouts. Oh, and clear storytelling too. And the pages don't look like they were designed to be sold on Ebay afterwards, as so many artists are prone to do these days. I'm digging it a lot.

[RedRonin]

I love Manhunter and do whatever it takes to keep that book going.

As for BoP, well I've never pick it up before but after hearing over and over again just how good it is I got to give it a shot. And I think the art work look good. It's nice and clean, which not to many titles have. It's way better then anything I've seen from Benes.

[Colossus2420]

BoP looks good, but that might be the WORST rendering of Killer Croc ever to grace the DCU.

And Manhunter is one of, if not THE, most underrated comic from the Big Two. More people need to be checking into that one.

[jedifish]

Loved the Manhunters preview

Blue Beetle looks better than I expected. I'm interested now.

Birds of Prey looks about the same, solid as usual. Not sure if I like how Killer Croc is drawn.

[Blitz]

Originally posted by TheCatalyst
So I'm confused... wasn't Blue Beetle shown to have found the Scarab within the pages of Infinite Crisis? Now he's shown in the above preview finding the scarab, but under different circumstances. Am I missing something, remembering this incorrectly (I don't have the issue in front of me) or did somebody screw up somewhere?

:confused:


I don't think thats the scarab crashing to earth, if you look at the cover to Infinite Crisis 5 it looks like Booster / Batman / and the new Blue Beetle go into space to take down Brother Eye. Plus it mentions Batman asking for Green Lanterns help it doesn't say which one. I figure Kyle either is the Green Lantern or he shows up...notices the kid....finds out he's calling himself Blue Beetle and nails him at the end of the issue or they blow up the satellite and he gets knocked to earth. Anyways we will know next Wednesday.

[CitC]

I'm not a big Dodson fan, but I think the BoP looks ok.

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[obie_uio]

Originally posted by TheCatalyst
So I'm confused... wasn't Blue Beetle shown to have found the Scarab within the pages of Infinite Crisis? Now he's shown in the above preview finding the scarab, but under different circumstances. Am I missing something, remembering this incorrectly (I don't have the issue in front of me) or did somebody screw up somewhere?

:confused:

according to Infinite Crisis 3... it happens just as in BB #1.. but with less detail of course

Does someone has something to say about Obsidian showing in Manhunter?? all Infinity Inc fans should take a look!!

[TheCatalyst]

Originally posted by Blitz
I don't think thats the scarab crashing to earth...

Actually, I wasn't referring to the crash shown in the preview, but rather to the last BB preview page where Jaime's in his civilian identity with the other two kids and he finds and picks up the scarab. If my memory is serving me well (and it is prone to occasional failure), within Infinite Crisis Jaime is shown all alone coming across the scarab after it crashes to Earth, then picks it up. Sorry if I'm remembering this incorrectly...

[bluebird]

BIRDS OF PREY: I'm buying, and will still be buying OYL. Gypsy and Vixen on the team? How about Cassandra "Batgirl" Cane? Art looks fine to me...who's that killer? I thought it was Doc Midnight will I read the dialogue.

BLUE BEETLE: Dissapointment in there being a new Blue Beetle will likely be enough to keep away from this. I like the new costume design, but I'm not feeling the ten thousandth version of a young hero trying to fill the boots of a --yawn!--older hero. Zzzzzzzz

MANHUNTER: I didn't like the two issues I tried much, but I DID like them when I read them again and trade, which is how I'd like to continue reading this series. I AM surprised it's lasted OYL, and it's very cool seeing Punch and Jewlee....wish they would have appeared in VU and hope they will in the upcoming SECRET SIX...

[TCJohnson]

Fathers hit their girls?

Just what we need....another grim and gritty comic book.

At least BoP is keeping it's sense of fun.

[Qanon]

Originally posted by bluebird
MANHUNTER: I didn't like the two issues I tried much, but I DID like them when I read them again and trade, which is how I'd like to continue reading this series. I AM surprised it's lasted OYL, and it's very cool seeing Punch and Jewlee....wish they would have appeared in VU and hope they will in the upcoming SECRET SIX...

While I also want to see them release all the Manhunters in trade, I don't know if it'll happen, so if you enjoy the book you might want to just plunk down the money and get them monthly. I think it's worth it.

I've been an on again off again buyer of Birds of Prey...and I might just have to go "on" again, as the preview looked pretty good.

The new Blue Beetle doesn't excite me. But I'll wait to see him in action in IC before I make up my mind completely.

[krammocon]

Count me IN on Birds of Prey... loved the art... I dunno about some of the guys here who thinked it's bad, but not me!

I hope Gypsy is surely IN though...

Blue Beetle I will try..

Manhunter? Now this comic for me is an example of some BAD art. Well at least for me. I tried it's last two issues prior to this OYL one and I said to myself that I would never be picking up such comic with that kind of ART. Sorry!

[Excelsior!]

Blue Beetle's pretty funny thus far - I was going to pick it up anyway, but my interest is piqued even more after this.

Bop - Gail's on a roll, no foolin'. 'Gash the Gastards'. Explosives in the groin.

Heh. :cool: Another must-buy.


Damn you, DC - I'm already broke as it is!! :mad:

:D

[Michael Hawk]

The Manhunter and Blue Beetle previews didn't do anything for me (probably will still pick up the issues though) but Birds of Prey looks awesome.

[silverbolt]

maybe my memory is spotty, but isnt chase a lesbian...?

[melibell21]

Originally posted by skinnyboy23
i like the BOP art. its kind of dobson esque but not too sexy. it could use some sharper lines, though.

its just not as good as benes and bennet. i guess its not too bad tho.

[Qanon]

Originally posted by silverbolt
maybe my memory is spotty, but isnt chase a lesbian...?

No. She had a boyfriend in her own series. Don't remember whatever happened to him. As far as I know, she's never been portrayed as a lesbian.

[Big Red]

Blue Beetle looks great!

[Kevin T. Brown]

Hmmmmm, why is Huntress in that particular costume....? She's shown wearing something totally different on the cover of Superman/Batman #27:

http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/5199_400x600.jpg

[beetle1million]

Originally posted by Qanon
No. She had a boyfriend in her own series. Don't remember whatever happened to him. As far as I know, she's never been portrayed as a lesbian.

I don't think they ever said one way or another what happened to her boyfriend. I think he was still around at the end of her series, and never mentioned in the little Secret Files storylines she was in. It's not like their relationship was particularly stable during her series. Chase is actually the source of my one complaint about the otherwise awesome Manhunter... She seems a bit watered down and not as strong a lead as she was in her own series. Still, I'm vaguely disturbed and excited that she's banging furry little stud-muffin Dylan.

[Action Ace]

Birds of Prey looks the same as always, very good on the writing side and a bit iffy on the art side.

Blue Beetle looks very satisfying through seven pages. Hamner's pencils and the colors look very "Invincible."

Manhunter is one of the few regular DCU titles I don't buy currently and it will be among the very few I won't be buying One Year Later.

[ALIEN_freak_jimbo]

Wow, those BOP pages look nice! I may have to pick up the series again!

[beetle1million]

Originally posted by TCJohnson
Fathers hit their girls?

Just what we need....another grim and gritty comic book.

At least BoP is keeping it's sense of fun.

I don't know if that particular notion qualifies something as grim and gritty. Impulse had a storyline about a mother who beat the crap out of her son, and that wasn't even vaguely grim and gritty.

By the same token, Birds of Prey (which I love, but is the bar you're holding your criticism to, so it's where I make my point) has its female protagonists routinely getting beaten to bloody pulps, and placed in not terribly cartoony bondage situations.

I'm not criticizing Birds of Prey at all. it is a great book, it is a lot of fun. But I'm not sure how from the preview you've seen here of another book you can compare it to Birds of Prey, say BoP has a sense of fun and imply that it's NOT grim and gritty, but call another book 'another grim and gritty comic book' based on a single line that, I'm positive, is not attempting to express any world view other than that of a girl who clearly has problems in her life that are outlined rather swiftly with that single exchange.

[skinnyboy23]

Originally posted by Kevin T. Brown
Hmmmmm, why is Huntress in that particular costume....? She's shown wearing something totally different on the cover of Superman/Batman #27:

http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/5199_400x600.jpg

spoilers






thats precrisis huntress. this is probably a flashback?

[MarkG72]

I'll stick w/ Manhunter but thus far none of these OYL previews are getting me too excited. Blue Beetle looks baaaaad.

[longshot7]

BOP is solid. I am completely sold on Manhunter. Never bought it before, but I will now!

Now the important question about the new Blue Beetle: Is it pronounced JAY-ME or HY-MEE? I need to know!!

[kilroy]

^&*( shes still in the f&*^%$ chair and not back girl I hate you dan . Manhunter everyone buy this book andrekyo is god . &*^% dan why why . Barbara active enough .......and now cheescake wonderwoman who may not be diana. Its pronounce Hi- me when its spelled Jaime. when its spelled jamie then its traditional jayme

[samnoir]

I love the manner in which Simone reinvented the crime doctor in Villians United. I'm glad he's appearing the Bird Of Prey OYL.

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[longshot7]

Originally posted by kilroy
^&*( shes still in the f&*^%$ chair and not back girl I hate you dan . Manhunter everyone buy this book andrekyo is god . &*^% dan why why . Barbara active enough .......and now cheescake wonderwoman who may not be diana. Its pronounce Hi- me when its spelled Jaime. when its spelled jamie then its traditional jayme

I know several JAY-ME's that spell their name Jaime.....

[EmeraldGuy32]

Out of all the OYL madness...Batman and Manhunter are going on top of my reading pile.

[Yami Ash]

I bet the new Blue Beetle is gay. Otherwise, what's the point?

[s*p rules]

why exactly would the new beetle need to be a 'mo to have a point???

[JLAJRC]

Originally posted by TheCatalyst
Actually, I wasn't referring to the crash shown in the preview, but rather to the last BB preview page where Jaime's in his civilian identity with the other two kids and he finds and picks up the scarab. If my memory is serving me well (and it is prone to occasional failure), within Infinite Crisis Jaime is shown all alone coming across the scarab after it crashes to Earth, then picks it up. Sorry if I'm remembering this incorrectly...

The way I remember it, the scarab crashes down in El Paso, but no one picked it up yet. The next time we saw it was in Infinate Crisis #4 where Booster Gold confronts Jaime who has the scarab already attached. We never saw him pick it up or anything yet. I'm betting that is what we're seeing in Blue Beetle, what happened between those two events.

I'm already picking up BB and am thinking of permantantly adding BOP. Never read Manhunter and probably won't start yet.

[Falcon]

I spell my name Jaime and pronounce it JAY-ME. Also EL Paso looks nothing like that area , and hispanic kids don't just walk around spitting out random spanish, but i'm still picking it up.

[Yami Ash]

Originally posted by s*p rules
why exactly would the new beetle need to be a 'mo My, how enlightened of you. to have a point??? How many teen heroes are there? More than you can count. Why would DC go to all this trouble simply to add another one, complete with high profile new book, just to create another one if he wasn't gay?

[Yami Ash]

Originally posted by JLAJRC
The way I remember it, the scarab crashes down in El Paso, but no one picked it up yet. The next time we saw it was in Infinate Crisis #4 where Booster Gold confronts Jaime who has the scarab already attached. We never saw him pick it up or anything yet. I'm betting that is what we're seeing in Blue Beetle, what happened between those two events.No, we see him pick it up during the Shadowpact scene in #3

[kalorama]

Originally posted by TheCatalyst
Actually, I wasn't referring to the crash shown in the preview, but rather to the last BB preview page where Jaime's in his civilian identity with the other two kids and he finds and picks up the scarab. If my memory is serving me well (and it is prone to occasional failure), within Infinite Crisis Jaime is shown all alone coming across the scarab after it crashes to Earth, then picks it up. Sorry if I'm remembering this incorrectly...

Originally posted by JLAJRCThe way I remember it, the scarab crashes down in El Paso, but no one picked it up yet. The next time we saw it was in Infinate Crisis #4 where Booster Gold confronts Jaime who has the scarab already attached. We never saw him pick it up or anything yet. I'm betting that is what we're seeing in Blue Beetle, what happened between those two events.

Jaime is actually shown finding and picking up the scarab (in what appears to be the rubble of a building that's leveled by falling pieces of the Rock of Eternity) in a 3-panel sequence in IC #3. The scene in the BB preview is, roughly, a more detailed version of the same scene (albeit, oddly enough, minus any reference to gints chunks of rock falling to the ground and smashing buildings.). The dialogue and the clothes they're wearing in the preview are roughly the same as in IC #3.

[kalorama]

Originally posted by Yami Ash
My, how enlightened of you. How many teen heroes are there? More than you can count. Why would DC go to all this trouble simply to add another one, complete with high profile new book, just to create another one if he wasn't gay?

Uh ... not really following the logic line there. The point A to point B progression doesn't really scan. (Although there have been some buzz/rumors that the new Beetle will, in fact, be gay.)

[motteditor]

Originally posted by Ranadiel
As for why she doesn't havean operative named Canaray, it could be any number of things from codename changes, lieing, Canary currently being undercover, or Canary getting promoted to partner(or soemthing other then operative).

I don't know, with that phrasing, it sounds like a falling out to me. I mean, if she were still involved with Dinah, you'd probably say something like "She's busy" or "Canary's changed her name." To me, that's more of a "Canary doesn't exist to me," i.e. something's come between them.

The shadowed figure seems likely to be Shiva, no? (My lack of DC knowledge notwithstanding, she seems like she'd fit.)

[Juisarian]

Originally posted by TheCatalyst
So I'm confused... wasn't Blue Beetle shown to have found the Scarab within the pages of Infinite Crisis? Now he's shown in the above preview finding the scarab, but under different circumstances. Am I missing something, remembering this incorrectly (I don't have the issue in front of me) or did somebody screw up somewhere?

:confused:

It's a flashback. Whenever the same events have been depicted in both Infinite Crisis and another book, the circumstances are always different. It's just wierd like that.

For example, in Infinite Crisis, the Amazons built the Purple Death Ray which was a giant freaking cannon. In Wonder Woman they built the Purple Death Ray which was a rifle with a backpack. Same end result.

[N. Blownapart]

I can't quite place my finger on it, but i want the new Blue Beetle to die a very slow and agonizing death. He justs really bothers me. From the moment of his first appearance in IC I knew I was going to hate him, and everytime I read anything about him it just seems to get worse.

Other than that both BoP and Manhunter look intriguing. Too bad I can't afford to pick them up. But if one of my other titles faulters on the 1 year later deal, then either of those could be a likely replacement.

[N. Blownapart]

Originally posted by Falcon
Also EL Paso looks nothing like that area , and hispanic kids don't just walk around spitting out random spanish

That may be part of my dislike for the new El Beetle Azure Grande! But eh, what are you gonna do, he could of been another straight overbuilt rich white guy, or a TnA to boost sales character.

[Falcon]

Originally posted by N. Blownapart
the new El Beetle Azure Grande!


I now refuse to call him anything else, he's an insult to hispanics.

[Cray_ws]

People....slow down with your analysis of these previews. the comments are so out of context with what little we've seen. It be best if we kept our opinions to minimum before we lay down the blanket insults.

[booster]

Originally posted by motteditor
The shadowed figure seems likely to be Shiva, no? (My lack of DC knowledge notwithstanding, she seems like she'd fit.)

Probably not Lady Shiva, due to the events of last week's Batgirl. Still, One Year Later and all...

[Elayne Riggs]

Nice to see the completed lettered/colored pages from BoP! I think the art is terrific, but I'm biased. :) Now I can ask something (of either Gail or knowledgeable comics cognoscenti) which I've been wondering for awhile - when she calls the guy "Matt Thorn" on the first page, is that a Tuckerization and tip of the hat to comics fan Matt Thorn (very active on the shoujo manga scene) or is that the character's actual name?

[R.C. Collins]

Originally posted by Yami Ash
My, how enlightened of you. How many teen heroes are there? More than you can count. Why would DC go to all this trouble simply to add another one, complete with high profile new book, just to create another one if he wasn't gay?


wow.... I don't even know where to start with that post...

So now all new high profile character need to be gay..... wow.

[R.C. Collins]

The shadowed figure seems likely to be Shiva, no? (My lack of DC knowledge notwithstanding, she seems like she'd fit.) [/B]


...... I doubt it:D

Not after the last issue of Batgirl....:p

[india]

Decent stuff all around. My primiary interest is BOP, but i may have to give Blue Beetle a shot as well.

i'm not crazy about the art in BOP, but the story seems as solid as ever. Am VERY curious as to what's going on with Canary now, but i was pleased to see Huntress as fiesty as ever. And this Crime Doctor stuff seems to have potential as well.

And (allow me to be girly for a moment) no fair not showing Bab's ring finger in the previews. :p
(really want it to work out with NW, despite odds of that being slim to none).

[R.C. Collins]

Originally posted by india And (allow me to be girly for a moment) no fair not showing Bab's ring finger in the previews. :p
(really want it to work out with NW, despite odds of that being slim to none). [/B]

Ha. Good call. That was very clever of them to hide it whenever her hand was shown... I hope it is hidden because there is somethign there to hide! At least the engagement ring still if not a wedding band.

[Von Raven]

Birds of Prey...still a great book! Gail Simone singlehandely saved this series from dying.


Manhunter...WOW! What a great, but highly-under-appreciated series. Compelling story...great central character, good supporting cast...consistently good art...why aren't more folks reading this book?!?

[PaladinZero]

Originally posted by matchesmalone
The artwork on Birds of Prey is disappointing - it looks like fill-in quality pencilling. DC once again goes cheap by hiring someone who's not a known quantity in the United States.

Wha!? I think the art on BoP looks amazing! I'm really digging it! What is it about it that you don't like? I personally agree with just about everything that MacQuarrie said! Great stuff, man!

[APeruvianguy]

Originally posted by Falcon
I now refuse to call him anything else, he's an insult to hispanics.

Yes because is terribly tranlated :D is "El Escarabajo Azul "

For my part I hope the character have a long life I Mean in a country where the Hispanics are quickly becoming the largest minority it make sense that one of the heroes in a universe well know for their legacies, could been a Spanish guy.


Don't understand why some people really hate him with such a passion, I mean because he is not a blonde Mc something? I really hope is not the case, because up to this point the guy have appeared in less than ten pages and they have not showed her personality at all.

Something interesting would be if some of the writers are open to some advice when using words or even phrases in other language with the internet that’s pretty easy now…

[outhereliste]

Originally posted by R.C. Collins
...... I doubt it:D

Not after the last issue of Batgirl....:p

Lazarus Pit.

Sounds like Lady Shiva is one of Oracle's new operatives... and I bet she'll be calling herself Black Canary at some point.
-A

[Kevin T. Brown]

Originally posted by skinnyboy23
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thats precrisis huntress. this is probably a flashback? As far as I can find out, the story is being listed as "OYL"....

[samnoir]

Anyone else think Shiva's on the team now? Who else would Crime Doctor be honoured to be killed by?

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[holtom2000]

damn newsstand stopped sending me this title. I've missed it a bunch. I might have to actually start paying for it. Damn it looks good. DAMN! DC is making me broke.

[kilroy]

no they all hate the new blue beetle because hes latin and gay....lol jeez where the hell did the gay thing come in. I know dc has said a new hero will be gay but did they 100% said it was the new beetle. the %^&* wipes on this site who love starting something out of nothing. Thou I do believe they dotn like him because hes latin. And to the jibaro born here who doesnt know his own culture if you wlak around calling yourself Jay me and spellling it like Hi me then your an idiot. plain and simple go talk to your parents or your grandparents so they can tell you how to either spell your name right or pronounce right lolololol mao. again these girls gettign there panities in a bunch

[samnoir]

I did a quick google of the crime doctor, and I had no idea that he was one of the Golden Age villians that was reintroduced in the silver age (along with Scarecrow, Hugo Strange and Deadshot).

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/24038627564.494.GIF

Wasn't there also a pretty good Batman TAS episode as well?

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[TCJohnson]

Originally posted by APeruvianguy

Don't understand why some people really hate him with such a passion, I mean because he is not a blonde Mc something? I really hope is not the case


Not at all. i am really for more culturally diverse characters, but I rather they be new characters instead of destroying an older character to give them some sort of cred.

Ted Kord is unique in the DCU as he was one of the lighter heroes that still had serious story potential (something that DC seems to be doing away with) and he was the everyman of the DCU. This new Blue Beetle pretty much takes everything that made Ted Kord cool and throws it out the window. Now we have something that is so completely unoriginal (teen ager suddenly getting super powers in over his head, "serious as a heart attack" and made to look like one of the japanese super heroes). I want Ted Kord back and Giffen and Rogers has promised that will not happen as long as they have antyhing to do with it.

It has nothing to do with him being hispanic. More hispanic characters are great, but not at the cost of already established characters.

[TCJohnson]

Originally posted by beetle1million
I don't know if that particular notion qualifies something as grim and gritty. Impulse had a storyline about a mother who beat the crap out of her son, and that wasn't even vaguely grim and gritty.


Well, Giffen already said that he was going to make this comic as "serious as a heart attack", with a lot of really disturbing stuff, which I just find really disappointing thing to do to one of the lighter sides of the DCU. Right now, BoP seems to be the only comic book that does not seem to take itself too seriously and can still be fun. No, that doesn't mean it doesn't have serious moments, but it is still a lot of fun.

I mean, c'mon, seven pages in and they already are talking about child abuse? And drama requires stories get more serious and darker the more you get into them.



About the BoP art, I think it looks great (except for Killer Croc, but not enough to really distract from the rest.) Is it as good as Benes? No, but when taken on it's own merits I think the art looks great.

[scarlettspiderg]

Looks like BoP will be staying on my pull list - Gail writes one really cool book, and Huntress+Explosives=beginning of a great storyline! :)

[jedifish]

Originally posted by kilroy
no they all hate the new blue beetle because hes latin and gay....lol jeez where the hell did the gay thing come in. I know dc has said a new hero will be gay but did they 100% said it was the new beetle. the %^&* wipes on this site who love starting something out of nothing. Thou I do believe they dotn like him because hes latin. And to the jibaro born here who doesnt know his own culture if you wlak around calling yourself Jay me and spellling it like Hi me then your an idiot. plain and simple go talk to your parents or your grandparents so they can tell you how to either spell your name right or pronounce right lolololol mao. again these girls gettign there panities in a bunch

I was thinking that the gay Superhero was going to be Holly from Catwoman.

[jedifish]

Originally posted by outhereliste
Lazarus Pit.

Sounds like Lady Shiva is one of Oracle's new operatives... and I bet she'll be calling herself Black Canary at some point.
-A

Yeah, they definitely left an out for Shiva to come back, especially with the rope fraying.

[Lemurian]

As a Runaways/YA nut, I fell honor-bound to get BB. That and Aquaman.

I mean, there's a chance chance that it won't suck, right?

[TCJohnson]

Originally posted by Lemurian
As a Runaways/YA nut, I fell honor-bound to get BB. That and Aquaman.

I mean, there's a chance chance that it won't suck, right?

it's getting good word of mouth from people who saw an issue at one of the cons. Hope you enjoy it, ain't something I am interested (even though Runaways and Young Avengers are two of my top five.)

[ironfixer]

Originally posted by TheCatalyst
Actually, I wasn't referring to the crash shown in the preview, but rather to the last BB preview page where Jaime's in his civilian identity with the other two kids and he finds and picks up the scarab. If my memory is serving me well (and it is prone to occasional failure), within Infinite Crisis Jaime is shown all alone coming across the scarab after it crashes to Earth, then picks it up. Sorry if I'm remembering this incorrectly...

Chalk it up to a newly realigned continuity via Infinite Crisis.

[Falcon]

Originally posted by kilroy
no they all hate the new blue beetle because hes latin and gay....lol jeez where the hell did the gay thing come in. I know dc has said a new hero will be gay but did they 100% said it was the new beetle. the %^&* wipes on this site who love starting something out of nothing. Thou I do believe they dotn like him because hes latin. And to the jibaro born here who doesnt know his own culture if you wlak around calling yourself Jay me and spellling it like Hi me then your an idiot. plain and simple go talk to your parents or your grandparents so they can tell you how to either spell your name right or pronounce right lolololol mao. again these girls gettign there panities in a bunch

my father who was a HI ME from Monteray, Mexico called me JAY ME


I agree I love the idea of a latin hero It's something that we needed for a long time but they could do it right.

[Dream Boy]

Wow! BOP looks as awesome as ever, so does Manhunter. And Chase with Dylan!?! Interesting....

BTW, I completely concur. Manhunter is one of the best books out there.

[IvCNuB4]

Originally posted by Kevin T. Brown
As far as I can find out, the story is being listed as "OYL"....

Superman/Batman 27 is a May issue, so yes it's OYL. But skinnyboy23 was right in that the cover shows Huntress and PowerGirl in their pre-Crisis outfits E2 outfits. Curiouser and curiouser ....

[Caleb Gerard]

You know why the "new" Mr. Terrific is a popular character? 'Cause he's well written and not shoe-horned in due to some misplaced feeling of meeting a quota.
Why are we making an issue of race? From what I can tell from the little exposure ths character's had to now he's a teen age kid who's social surrounding rings of Harry Potter (smart girl buddy and chummy guy buddy) and has some magical thingee grafted to his insides.
Did I miss the panel where it states that he's the next Chavez?

I'm thinking that most who are not liking the idea of this new Beetle are offended that it seems like Ted Kord was offed just to make room for this new kid when there were probably ways to make Kord more like what they plan to do with the new kid.

(Kord's death has already lost most of the emotional spark it might have carried due to events that are much larger and would probably have caused the same rifts... though I'm withhold all judgement until I see how Booster grows)

I know I was hacked off when DC killed some characters in Eclipso due to someone not wanting 2 characters with the same name running around and realized this was the case with some of them. Goofy reason.

CJG

[OCM]

Well thus far DC's been batting 1/3 with me on these previews. (Aquaman and JSA in the prior two previews.) Let's see what this trio of previews does for me.

Blue Beetle is easy to dismiss. I hated kids when I was one and I still haven't changed my mind about teens and younger in my middle aged years. Besides I'm already buying two teen books (Young Avengers and Titans) so my quote is met for now. Besides, the story is so-so from that preview and the art is horrible! Will have to do better than that to convince me to buy this one!

I'd love to buy Manhunter based on the artwork alone, but none of the previews I've seen thus far have convinced me. So, how come this only gets 5 pages to preview vs. 7 on the other two?

That leaves BoP, which like Aquaman I've never bought before, but I will DEFINATELY be picking up now! The writing is very sharp! It'd have to be because that artwork is fugly to me and there aren't too many books I buy solely on writing! Actually, it's probably saved from having me gouging my eyes out by the very talented inker Robin Riggs! (I'm saying that because I noticed your post Mrs. Riggs! :) Actually, it's no lie, Mr. Riggs has always helped the artwork on whatever book he's been on!)

Ok 1/3 again, at least it's staying consistent!

[Yami Ash]

Originally posted by R.C. Collins
wow.... I don't even know where to start with that post...

So now all new high profile character need to be gay..... wow.

No, but every high profile new book needs to fit a niche, something to make it stand out. And since all signs currently point to this new Blue Beetle basically being the Hispanic (is that capitalized?) Robin, it must be something currently unrevealed. I seriously doubt that the one to two issues of Infinite Crisis we have left before this series starts is going to do it.

Is it the stories in the book? I doubt it, as the hype so far has been placed on the character, not the stories. Unless they've got a huge backlog of Robin stories to run through.

Is it the fact that he's Hispanic? Arana made it pretty clear that it won't work. After all, if a unique character with whom they can tell stories that are themselves unique won't last, why should someone who simply has a nationality in common succeed for it?

So I'm pretty sure he's gay, something to help DC compete with Marvel in the gay teen superhero arms race. After all, we don't really need another Robin.

[Dragonbat]

Well, I'm definitely psyched for BoP come March! Those pages look intriguing! And while I would dearly love to have Benes back on the book, I think the art is growing on me, too.