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MichaelDoran
10-30-2002, 05:12 PM
<a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/Oni/DaysLikeThis_Cover.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Oni/DaysLikeThis_Cover_t.jpg" width="175" height="270" border="0" alt="DAYS LIKE THIS cover" align="right"></a>Co-written with Alex Segura Jr.

This March writer J. Torres (Sidekicks) and Oni Press, along with newcomer artist Scott Chantler, will help readers recall a bygone era and connect with the music of the sixties. Specifically, the era of the girl groups like the Shirelles and Supremes.

Torres sat down with Newsarama to talk about his upcoming new 80-page black & white original graphic novel Days Like This, which he hopes will connect with readers in the same way the creation of the project did with him.

Like many creative projects, Days Like This started out in a very different form. With a different name title and format…

"Days Like This started out with the working title ‘Girl Pop’, and it was also a three-issue mini-series at first," the writer recalled. "We changed format to a graphic novel and the title around the same time. Deciding on that title took quite a few months (and a lot of back and forth and brainstorming), but deciding to switch to the more economical and bookstore friendly graphic novel took a split second."

The project will be released in digest (6x9) size and retail for $8.95.

The book takes readers back to the sixties music scene, full of girl groups, the Brill Building and the birth of rock.

"The Brill Building is actually a block of music publishing houses in New York City where all sorts of legendary songwriters worked in the 50s and 60s. Historians say it's also where Tin Pan Alley met up with rock 'n' roll and changed popular music forever," Torres explained. "And where people like Gerry Goffin & Carole King, Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil, Burt Bacharach & Hal David, and Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller literally wrote hundred and hundreds of hits I'm sure most people reading this can sing if not at least recognize if they heard them. Pick up any 50s or 60s compilation and you'll find a something written by a songwriter who worked at the Brill Building."

<a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/Oni/GirlPop1_pg01.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Oni/GirlPop1_pg01_t.jpg" border="0" alt="DAYS LIKE THIS pg. 1" width="150" height="231" align="left"></a>Torres decided the best way to tell his story would be through the creation of a fictional girl group that could fit seamlessly into the period. Using them as a vehicle, he was able to clearly bring to light just how important some people or trends were then and now.

"Days Like This is the story of the Tiaras, a fictional girl group, that's sort of a composite of all the classic girl groups from the era,” he said. “I have a special place in my heart for the music of the Shirelles so the Tiaras may resemble them the most because of that. The Tiaras' manager, Anna Solomon, definitely resembles the Shirelles' manager, Florence Greenberg, who was a suburban housewife who decides to start up her own record company.

"These women, who were only teenagers at the time, along with the singers they wrote for, were true pioneers of pop music. I'm not sure where music would be today without their contributions, the risks they took (creatively and personally) as well the changes they made in the way things were done in the music industry and how women were regarded as artists and professionals."

Though not his intention when writing the book, Torres does note that Days Like This has a definite feminist appeal.

"Days Like This is sort of a snapshot of the era, a time when women started to become more and more involved in music making at every level, not just performance, and became movers and shakers in an industry dominated by men," Torres aid. "I didn't set out to write any kind of girl power parable, but as with a lot of what I write it ended up a coming of age story, the story of people trying to find their place in the world, and the story of families dealing with change."

The origins of the story can be traced back to Torres' childhood, and specifically his relationship with his father, which encompassed both music and comic books.

"I suppose the seeds for it were planted in my youth when my dad used to play all those Supremes records," said the creator. "I definitely inherited my love of music and comic books from my dad.

"And I had written comic stories with my siblings and my mom as models for characters, but had yet to put dad in one. But more than anything, I wanted to write something for him. Last summer, after reading some books and articles about the history of the Brill Building, the Shirelles and the 60s girl group era, I knew what that something had to be."

The work was very much a labor of love for Torres, who hoped to share the graphic novel with his father.

"I was going to surprise him with an announcement about the project and sample art from Scott last Christmas," Torres said. "But sadly he passed away before I had that opportunity."

<a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/Oni/GirlPop1_pg02.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Oni/GirlPop1_pg02_t.jpg" border="0" alt="DAYS LIKE THIS pg. 2" width="150" height="231" align="right"></a>Torres hopes the book serves another purpose: To bring attention to more positive, diverse comic books that don't easily fall into categories like super heroes, science fiction and horror.

"But I've said that if I was told I could only write one more comic book for the rest of my life, this would have to be it," Torres said. "Now, I have my personal reasons for writing Days Like This but Oni obviously had their reasons for wanting to publish it. And I'm sure one of those reasons is to continue to put out diverse types of comics for different kinds of readers out there.

"We hear it all the time, industry types saying that we need to publish more material for non-comic readers, for the books readers out there who may not be into what we consider mainstream material in our world. We've heard the term ‘pop comics’ thrown around a lot lately, too. But from what I've seen, we're getting a lot of action-adventure material that reads like superhero comics without the masks and tights."

While non-super hero fare may find a readership outside the boxes and bins of the direct market, Torres thinks most people might just want to read comics that aren't all that fantastical.

"There are also readers out there who don't necessarily like dark sci-fi or angst-ridden autobio or crime fiction or horror or the usual genres people recommend when asked to suggest comics for non-comic fans," Torres said.

<a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/Oni/GirlPop1_pg23.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Oni/GirlPop1_pg23_t.jpg" border="0" alt="DAYS LIKE THIS pg. 23" width="150" height="231" align="left"></a>"We need more ‘feel good comics’ if you ask me. As much as I enjoy Optic Nerve, for example, I'd probably slit my wrists if it was published more than quarterly. Tomine's that skillful at making you empathize with his characters, bringing you down, leaving you feeling blue or empty or even depressed. I like it when a book can do that to you, but my girlfriend doesn't, nor does my brother, and neither do the wives of my comic geek friends."

Torres hopes Days Like This can provide readers with the same positive feelings girl groups like the Shirelles, Supremes and Ronnettes gave him when he'd listen to those records with his father, years ago.

"Days Like This is supposed to be a feel good comic," Torres concluded. "The type of thing that I like to think you could hand to a man in his 60s (like my dad) or a teenage girl and they'd both appreciate it."

Wade @ Sighnub.com
10-30-2002, 05:34 PM
<strong>While non-super hero fare may find a readership outside the boxes and bins of the direct market, Torres thinks most people might just want to read comics that aren't all that fantastical.</strong>

I am looking forward to this book, becuase Oni hasn't let me down yet, but I have to point out that the evidence of the market for the past several decades would seem to contradict this statement. Like it or not, right now and for the past, this industry rises or fall with superheroes ( at least in the U.S. ).

I personally feel that there is a backlash going on, and while it is not wholly unexpected, is unnecessary. There is this feel out there among a very vocal number of fans and creators that superheroes are mucking up the industry. I say can't we all just get along! I love a good slice of life story just as much as I enjoy an issue of JLA. Who's with me?

ok, i'll be quiet now...

Jamie S. Rich
10-30-2002, 06:40 PM
Wade, I think you are right, the direct market has risen and fallen on superheroes (or transforming robots), but I think when people talk of the market expanding, they are talking of how to get more people into comics shop and comics into other retail areas. I think when you talk about that sort of stuff, that superheroes have proven not necessarily be our best book--or at the very least, that it shouldn't be our only hook.

I know at Oni we don't advocate capes and tights going way, we just like to make more room for stuff that is different. Like DAYS LIKE THIS...which I am very excited about. I think this is going to be a personal hallmark editorially.

J. Torres
10-30-2002, 07:17 PM
"Torres thinks most people might just want to read comics that aren't all that fantastical."

Just to clarify: by "most people" I meant most people *outside* of comics (i.e. potential readers). Looking at what tops the best sellers lists and what kinds of films and TV shows do well in the ratings, one would think that the type of reader we should be trying to attract from the so-called mainstream audience out there is more likely to try material in a humourous or dramatic vein (with no capes and tights involved). I like to think we can attact more new readers (or even a different breed of comic reader) with something, say, by Andi Watson than, say, an X-Men 2 tie-in. But we seem to keep trying stuff like the latter...

J.

Monkey in a Wheelchair
10-30-2002, 08:05 PM
Was this reworked [in the writing stage] to flow seemlessly as a graphic novel? I got something that was a GN, I suppose literally (as none of it had been periodicalized), but you could feel the breaks, the little cliffhangers...
The Human Target GN, that's right. Anyway, it was still a good-good book, and I'm looking forward to this. Amazing art.
Had me at the title.
-- chip
(They say geniuses make up their own words, but listen to the president talk. 'Periodicalized.' I'm sorry, everyone.)

BClayMoore
10-31-2002, 01:28 AM
Can't wait to see this one. Dig that cover, kids!

Thanks for the background info, J. Informative interview.

-BCM

Scott Chantler
10-31-2002, 10:47 AM
[quote]Was this reworked [in the writing stage] to flow seemlessly as a graphic novel?<hr></blockquote>

No. But it didn't really need to be. Like most miniseries, it was conceived and written as a single story, so it's not as if each issue had a lot of exposition that had to be dropped after the switch of formats.

So there are "breaks" at what would have been the end of each issue, but I don't see those as being any different than the chapter breaks in a conventional novel. When you read a book are you disappointed that the author didn't just start on page one and write like a madman until he got to the end? The breaks provide a bit of drama, as well as giving the reader a sensible place to put the book down if they aren't planning on reading the whole thing in one sitting. I can't speak for J, but I imagine that even if he'd written it as a graphic novel, he still would have divided it into "chapters."

gren99
11-01-2002, 04:27 AM
i think that by and large, the average non-comics reader will be more readily sucked into the medium by the capes'n'spandex stuff than most any more sophisiticated project/product.

at least that's been my expierience. i've hooked FAR more of my friends in with stuff like DKR, batman: year 1 and watchmen. i think it's eaiser for them to identify and mentally get around the iconic nature of these types of comics and it's (imo) a decent way to feed someones habit at first. after a while you start handing them your 'sandman' and 'preacher' TPBs, etc.

but where this sort of content is absolutely vital is in creating an enviroment where a persons tastes and interests can grow BEYOND that of the simple gateway drug (heh.)

once they realize that there is a bit of clever writing and some good artistry to be had here, you can then provide said people with an expanded palette of books and series that helps them remain readers and buyers of comics.

think of it in terms of SF/F and all those kids who were reading harry potter a while back -- if even 10% of them went on to read stuff like the fellowship of the ring or perhaps stuff by zelazny and piers anthony, then frankly, i personally could care less about all the criticism people have thrown before the potter books --it's helped bring new blood into the marketplace and how on earth can that possibly be a bad thing?

oh, slightly off-topic -- love the 'days like this' concept. can't wait to buy it. :)

J. Torres
11-01-2002, 02:46 PM
[quote]Originally posted by gren99:
i think that by and large, the average non-comics reader will be more readily sucked into the medium by the capes'n'spandex stuff than most any more sophisiticated project/product.<hr></blockquote>

Well, I think we've all had some success at some point or other using a superhero comic as a "gateway drug." But you can only hook certain types of readers with this drug (and, say, not people like my mother or my sister or the wives of my friends). And, yes, usually it's the type of reader who will move on to Vertigo material as you point out. This is really like a broken record, isn't it? (Pun totally intended.) We really need to play different types of songs to get more people to come to our little dance...

J.