HOW DO YOU LIKE SPIDER-MAN's NEW "IRON SPIDEY" COSTUME?

[MattBrady]

We've been so busy here at Newsarama this past week we haven't had a chance to ask you our readers what <i>you</i> think of Spider-Man's new "Iron Spidey" costume, designed for Peter Parker by Tony Stark (by way of Joe Quesada, Chris Bachalo, and J. Michael Straczynski)...

Love it? Like it? Hate? Take a look below to refresh your memory and let your fellow readers (and us, and maybe even some folks at Marvel) know what you think.

You don't even have to be a registered Newsarama member to participate ... although it doesn't hurt!

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[KyleCowstar]

Had to go with the 1. I was borderline 2, though.:D

[Fxdx522]

I also reward the "IRON SPIDER" with a "1". Regardless of any reason Marvel, Joe Q, and JMS can offer me, I don't see any reason for this. Spider-Man is a solo character, making him an Avenger and now the Iron Spider is bring him back to the early 90s with more gimmicks than story. No more. Sorry.

[The Marvel]

Is that the new Red Power Ranger?

Sweet!

[CaptainTemerity]

Not having anything to do with the storyline, but simply on the design of the outfit itself, I gave it a 2.

I just think they could've done much better. The colors, especially, just strike me as wrong for Spidey. Just unattractive.

The story may be cool, but the costume itself disagrees with me. Sorry.

['Zakath]

For a story-related outfit, I really like it. It's no classic, but to emphasize a certain period of Spidey's life, I can appriciate it. And, come on, just as a random outfit, not a Spidey-suit, it's pretty damn slick, IMO. So, I like it.

[DerecDonovan]

in the abscence of a good story or character developement-- crappy (and unnecessary ) costume change

[SaturnKnight]

2 stars. It's not the worst ever, but it's pretty dang close. Really, just a terrible decision on Marvel's part. God, I miss the Bill Jemas era of Marvel when the 616 was actually *fun* to read.

But life is cyclical. Marvel will get its $#!+ back together... eventually. For now, the day belongs to DC and Infinite Crisis.

[pseudosham]

Originally posted by SaturnKnight
2 stars. It's not the worst ever, but it's pretty dang close.

[bizarrolike]

It's related to civil war and part of that story line so that is why i like it.

[SmileOnADog]

I like it very much as a temporary thing. I think the original costume is the end all be all of great super-hero costumes so there is no need to improve on it. That being said, I also love the black-alien costume very much but mostly for nostalgic reasons.

It is a cool design and I am interested to see where the story is going with this. I love the relationship between the Avengers and the supporting characters in AMAZING. The moment with MJ and Logan for instance.

[shifty]

The colors are terrible but the extra spider arms are freaking wicked.

[The Shadow]

4 Stars: Pretty darn cool. I can dig this for a while

It's not permanent... and I think the visual of it is great!

If it were to be permanent I might have changed my vote but as JoeQ says, it's only for a while.

[Abstrakt]

honestly i dont know why people are so crazy bout spidey's original costume

its good i guess, but nothing to cry and whine over in anyway. cmon peter parker has been wearing the same thing since he was 15, thats been atleast 10 years for him now.

this one is good except for the colors and id have to see the arms at work before saying anything bout them.

im still wishing someone would bring back the ben riellly spidey costume. now that was a nice eveolution for the costume that i have yet to hear anything bad about

[algertman]

in the 90's we didn't have costumes this bad

[Spider Symbiote]

The costume is story related. It's already been strongly suggested that this isn't a permanent thing.

I like the costume more now than when I first saw it. I'm giving it a 3.

[Bllesed]

3 stars i can live with this thing

[SaturnKnight]

Originally posted by algertman
in the 90's we didn't have costumes this bad Now *THAT* is funny! :D

[tralfaz]

I have no problems with it but face it, it's butt ugly.
He looks like Carnage, or at least the way Quesada draws it

[SaturnKnight]

Originally posted by tralfaz
I have no problems with it but face it, it's butt ugly.
He looks like Carnage, or at least the way Quesada draws it Best analysis of this costume yet. Good job, tral.

[md62]

Awful. I dropped ASM awhile back. I think JMS has overstayed his welcome on the title. I am picking up FNSM with #5 but I will drop it too when this stupidity crosses into that title.

[vicvondoom]

1... put simply, it sucks.

[Harper601]

I will take it for what it is worth and enjoy the upcoming stories. Nothing else more than that.

The House of Ideas, keeps em coming!

[looshkin]

I'd give it a 4

[Jed Saxon]

ANYTHING is better then the old costume and I like that new design though it can't beat the Ben Reilly/May Parker update or the Miguel O'Hara costume. :)

[Blast-Off]

I have given this a 3 for now. I'm really hoping that there is an interesting and logical reason for this suuit story wise.

[nietoperz]

It's really very ugly. :(

[sdn001]

I gave it a 3. From the way Quesada described it, it sounds like this is very much driven by a story idea JMS had connected to Civil War and will be around for a long as JMS's plans last. Roberto Sacasa added the the new duds will show up in Sensational Spider Man in a way that fits the story. So that said, I'm betting [hoping?] that it's temporary and can live with it for the term of the story.

I'm not too crazy about the Iron Man color scheme (even though Stark designed it), but I have to wonder if a metallic blue (which it would have to be in an armored suit) would look good, either. Probably Red and Silver or Black and Silver would be my choices. But other than that, it's not bad overall, although I'll reserve judgement on the spider arms to see how they're used.

[TheFalcon]

I don't like the new costume. The colors are all wrong and the extra arms/legs just look stupid IMO.
Having blue instead of the gold might have made it ok but now it just looks awful. He resembles Carnage more than Spider-Man.

Thank god I only read the Ultimate Spider-Man.

2 stars.

[malkovich71]

Originally posted by bizarrolike
It's related to civil war and part of that story line so that is why i like it.

But can you judge it on its own merits alone? If it wasn't tied to a story that you are anticipating would you still like it? Or if wearing a pink tutu were part of the Civil War storyline would you like that ?

[bizarrolike]

Originally posted by malkovich71
But can you judge it on its own merits alone? If it wasn't tied to a story that you are anticipating would you still like it? Or if wearing a pink tutu were part of the Civil War storyline would you like that ?


It's alright,I had something more in mind in terms of this

http://tinypic.com/mb1njl.jpg

[Marchie77]

the sketch sucked... but that... its growing on me... like the extra legs...

[Skully]

Joey Q, for the most part I love the stuff you let go as Editor-In-Chief, but what were you smoking when you let this go?

1.

[JimShelley]

I'm sorry, but WHY is this story not reviled as much as the clone saga again?

Seeing crap like this makes me long for the days Ben Reilly was the Scarlet Spider.

[defjoe]

Terrible... it's just terrible.

[jtci88]

Originally posted by bizarrolike
It's related to civil war and part of that story line so that is why i like it.

Hmmm, I haven't read it, have you?

[Lobok]

The insignia on the costume bizarrolike posted above looks more like a cat or lion than a spider.

As for "Iron Spidey" I give it a 3.

[scan2001]

I think that some of you need to relax about the whole costume change. Everyone knows that it won't last for long.

[SaturnKnight]

Originally posted by bizarrolike
It's alright,I had something more in mind in terms of this Actually, I like that one! :)

It's kinda flashy and very colorful. Really different from either of Spidey's 2 previous costumes (the original and the Secret Wars version). Pity they didn't go with it. I think it's nifty; I'd have given that an enthusiastic thumbs-up! :cool:

[Dash-Dot]

I give it a 2. Not nearly as bad as I expected it to be, but it's really just blase. They go to all this trouble to redesign one of the greatest superhero costumes of all time, and all we get is the Venom-suit with a different colour scheme, spats (for some reason), and robotic arms that he doesn't need?

When he premieres in this costume, will the Daily Bugle at least print an article saying that he's ripping off Doctor Octopus?

Quesada says that as long as people are talking about events at Marvel then it's a good thing. But frankly, most people have stopped going on about this already. Given the recent storylines and events at Marvel, no one actually expects this to last more than a year, and very few people are actually angered at what is, in the end, a very conservative and boring redesign.

And CapvsBats? I think The Other will go down as being a very, very poor event. Say what you will about The Clone Saga, but at least they tried something radically different. Now that event got Spidey some fan press. And that wasn't a good thing...

[melperfect]

I actually like it.

There's no replacement for the red and blues which Ditko created WAY ahead of its time, but I like the way this looks in the meantime. I like the simplicity of a 2 color design (probably from my fondness for the black and white costume, MINUS the fangs and drool :rolleyes:).

I'll have to see the extra arms in action, but I really like the costume knowing that it's supposed to be a Tony Stark design.

I fall somewhere between 3 and 4 for my vote.

[AlexLothos]

I like the costume (except the mechanical arms, though tolorable), but not for Spidey. I'll live with it for the arch, though.

Now for the return of Scarlet Spider... it'd rule! :D

[Kolimar]

3 Stars: Not terrible, not terrific. It'll work temporarily.

Barely. Almost a 2. :D

[Bakema NL]

I voted 3.

But I have to admit, seeing this piece of art.....it's really not as bad as that initial piece lead to believe, it looks kinda cool, but we all know it will be temporary anyway, so make some nice stories and we'll be awaiting the return to the beloved blue and red. :)

[Maurice M]

I was actually hoping for something along the lines of his HoM costume. I loved that one, but this one looks bleh.

[Zeitgeist]

4. If it had different colors it would be a 5, too bad its not permanent

[ErictheRed]

Ugliest most repugnant piece of ____ I've seen. Isn't a option. Shoot.

[yr mom]

this is just an awful awfule costume. I do not mind small costume changes like when people would add the webs to spideys arms( i thought those were rather cool). But a complete change... especially one this bad... it is so ugly. I went with a one. In like ten years when they do the other part 2 and we see all these other costumes on second printings, we will see this one and have us a laugh. Oh joe q, you lived too long.

[Sesshomaru]

I'm giving it a 3 . i can dig it knowing that its a temporay costume .. otherwise of course the note is getting below .
Anyway i can understand people not liking the design , but from all that bitching from a few people , i even wonder if all posters were even spiderman readers . I mean why such an angry reaction .. its not as if spiderman getting silly and sometimes beautiful , temporary costumes hasnt been there for a quite long time . it happened quite often through his existence , not only the 90s , and is imho some kind of tradition .

[tof]

I've got two problems with the new costume (leading to a 1):
- with the metallic feel it's quite difficult to distinguish the yellow from the red. At least on Iron-Man the yellow is more pure and can clearly be seen on the face and the members.
- Violator from Spawn is ugly, just like any demon. One of the reason why he's ugly is because of his stinger. Thus using 3 stingers on Spidey is the best way to make him as ugly as Violator :(

Originally posted by bizarrolike
It's alright,I had something more in mind in terms of this
This one would have been so much better.

[creatorman]

This is what I love about comics. Writers/Artists that can push the envelope despite mass backlash from fans. The new costume rocks! Hopefully the storyline will as well.

[GoatMaster]

Originally posted by AlexLothos
I like the costume (except the mechanical arms, though tolorable), but not for Spidey. I'll live with it for the arch, though.

Now for the return of Scarlet Spider... it'd rule! :D

Okay, so this is a Tony Stark-designed costume, something probably with some powered armor components. What if, after Spidey ditches this costume it ends up in the hands of someone else? Could this lead into the creation of an All-New All-Different Scarlet Spider?

Wheee. That would be sweet.

[GoatMaster]

Originally posted by bizarrolike
It's alright,I had something more in mind in terms of this

http://tinypic.com/mb1njl.jpg

Wow... where did that picture come from? Its neat... I think that's what I'd think of if he were to do some 70s X-Men era star-hopping or something. Kinda strikes me as Imperial Guard-ish [its the gloves/boots I think].

[Marine]

replace the red with blue and the gold with red, dump the arms, and it would be better.

[Xenu Hater]

Originally posted by Jed Saxon
ANYTHING is better then the old costume and I like that new design though it can't beat the Ben Reilly/May Parker update or the Miguel O'Hara costume. :)

Did you ever see that Seinfeld episode where George decided that the exact oposite of his every instinct is correct?

[tymax1022]

question? why yellow and red? i mean is everyone on the team going to that color sheme now? ironman, spidergirl, spiderman, is luke cage's costume going that route as well? I always had a "hate" for yellow - yellow boots, gloves, etc...
maybe that's just me...as for the spidey costume.....design cool...color scheme not...

[djshalope]

4

i like the design, the implication of spidey being in tony's debt (just in time for Civil War), and personally i'm glad to see a status quo change in spidey that's advancing the character forward with new material instead of a retcon. i don't want these duds forever, but i would like to see them in action for a bit.

EDIT - when the dust settles, i predict fans will far more pleased with the results of the Spidey costume / Civil War storylines than they will be with the Infinite Crisis storylines. just a hunch.

[Dark Light]

It has some coolness to it, but I can't picture Spidey in anything but his blue and red costume. I don't think it will last long. I gave it a 3 of 5.

[fuzznugget]

OK I get the extra Spider arms but counting Spidey's normal 4 appendages I only see 3 extra arms. Don't spiders have 8 arms.

Unless he has one hidden in his pants.

[Carlos Javier]

I give it a 3. I think Spidey is best in simple costumes. That's why the old black one rocked.

EDIT - when the dust settles, i predict fans will far more pleased with the results of the Spidey costume / Civil War storylines than they will be with the Infinite Crisis storylines. just a hunch.

CW would have to be one hell of a story. The best most could hope for is a tie.

[MarkG72]

That thing (for Spider-Man) is hideous. Right up there with Electric Superman Blue and Red.

[stvnhthr]

I hate it, but it will work as a sales gimmick for awhile. But it will be a fun alternate outfit to unlock in future Spider-Man video games.

[Koben Kelly]

I find it to be terribly unattractive. But, at least it's not as ugly as Daredevil's battle armor suit. *sigh*

Thanks
---Koben:(

[Thephanboy]

what are they thinkin. I absolutely hate this vile piece of crap. If its only for a story arc in Amazing and maybe related to Civil War i can live with it for the short while, only if they go back to the original costume. There is no way you can improve on the original. Its like totally changing Supermans costume. You just cant. Hopefully this will only be for the time being. With this reminding us of the early 90's, you can only think that the Hologram covers and foil covers willb e back soon too. Oh god forbid

[MurrayC]

I think we are looking at this the wrong way. I think this is a classic case of mis-direction.


When we hear, "the new spider-man costume" , we should NOT think "the new costume of spider-man", but rather think "the costume of the NEW SPIDER-MAN"

Judging from the lastest couple of issues from "The Other" storyline, I think we are looking at a new nemesis for Peter Parker.

Or, I could be WAY off.

[Bakema NL]

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Crossover possibilities aplenty......and looking again...that "new" costume isn't that original. :p

http://www.comic.eck24.de/images/WIDOWF9502.jpg
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/a/araknis1.jpg

[Blast-Off]

Originally posted by MurrayC
I think we are looking at this the wrong way. I think this is a classic case of mis-direction.


When we hear, "the new spider-man costume" , we should NOT think "the new costume of spider-man", but rather think "the costume of the NEW SPIDER-MAN"

Judging from the lastest couple of issues from "The Other" storyline, I think we are looking at a new nemesis for Peter Parker.

Or, I could be WAY off.

I think you are WAY off considering that they have already talked about the fact that this new costume will put Peter in Tony Stark's debt. Which will play huge into Civil War.

[TheFoo]

Its grown on me, and seems it'll actually fit in with the story line that features it.

[EmeraldGuy32]

It's crap like this that makes me glad I don't read any 616 spidey.

[degaton]

I'm tired with the Avengers as Spider-Man's new supporting cast in every issue of his books.. And now everyone that was ever an Avenger knows he's Peter Parker..

How long before this becomes the look for a new Spider-Villian: like the Venom costume..

[Xenu Hater]

Originally posted by EmeraldGuy32
It's crap like this that makes me glad I don't read any 616 spidey.

Amen. Thank god for Bendis.

[4PointOh]

I don't like it at all. "1."

[m_takatak]

Yeah, the costume's ugly and all, but at the moment, I'm not as concerned with what it looks like as I am with what it can all do. Of course, I go into that in further detail in my blog. That was a shameless kind of plug, wasn't it? Oh, well . . . you should go read it anyway. It's located at http://maestrotakatak.blogstream.com/ and the poor thing needs all the readers it can get.

[DavidH]

When I was voting, I kept looking for a number that was actually less than 1.

The one good thing out of all this for me? I don't buy any Spider-man solo books. :D

I wonder how long this will last.

David

[COREMARK]

Very, very lame.

[speedbaldwin]

Originally posted by bizarrolike
It's related to civil war and part of that story line so that is why i like it.

I don't understand. Civil War hasn't even started yet. How do you know you'll like it or anything and everything associated with it?

[Nathan Jewell]

Originally posted by The Marvel
Is that the new Red Power Ranger?

Sweet!

Now that was funny!

[Nathan Jewell]

Originally posted by bizarrolike
It's alright,I had something more in mind in terms of this

http://tinypic.com/mb1njl.jpg

I voted 2. I would have voted 4 or 5 for this costume.

[Bedlam66]

I LIKE IT

[Nathan Jewell]

Originally posted by ErictheRed
Ugliest most repugnant piece of ____ I've seen. Isn't a option. Shoot.

So... your saying you gave it a 4?

[canalla]

http://www.chavodel8.com/fotos/chapulin.jpg

[ultxmen]

I think its cool , looks like an Iron Spidey costume for the event, but I'm not big on costumes always. I am surprised variations with a poll weren't used to give the fans more input.

[Blind Assassin]

I think the design looks bad-ass.

I went with option #4

[Blast-Off]

Originally posted by canalla
http://www.chavodel8.com/fotos/chapulin.jpg

They are using this one in Secret Wars 4 and Infinity War: The Aunt May Directive!

[Agent Wax]

things like this are never well accepted, because comic fans never want anything to change. We all know they will go back to the original eventually, so sure, for this storyline, I will sit back and enjoy it.
-WAX-
XXX

[dogofwar]

Overall ok.But I would loose the metallic "spiderlegs".

[dogofwar]

Originally posted by bizarrolike
It's alright,I had something more in mind in terms of this

http://tinypic.com/mb1njl.jpg


This one looks pretty sweet.Like a combination of the black custume and the Scarlett Spider one.

[cook]

lame lame lame

I hate drastic costume changes, especially when the new costume is crap.

[SouthtownKid]

It's about on par with the '90s Dardevil armor. Meaning: 1

About comic fans never wanting anything to change... yeah, there is an element of that. But I liked the black Spidey costume when it first came out. I've liked some of the variations the FF have had over the years. I've enjoyed each new armor Iron Man has ever had (with one exception). I've enjoyed a lot of the various costume updates X-Men have received over the years; often more than what they had previously.

But not the Daredevil armor. And not this.

[BradyKiller]

I'll like it for awhile...
I like a blue or black on Spidey as a color choice - but this is something different for ahwile - I'll follow it...you need a refresh once in a while.

Did anyone read the BACK ISSUE magazine where DeFalco and Frez talk about the backlash for the black Spidey costume...even with message boards they already heard the vile about it (I guess through the mail) and were shocked that it ended up doing so well.

[d.j.]

It's a turd. The colors are all wrong, and the arms, which are kinda cool, remind me of Doctor Octopus. Feh.

That said, Quesada can draw like a champ, and I wish he could find the time to do something like... oh... I dunno, All Star Spider-Man or something.

[BradyKiller]

Originally posted by bizarrolike
It's alright,I had something more in mind in terms of this

http://tinypic.com/mb1njl.jpg


OK basiucally this costyume shows that Marvel should have asked the fans to design it instead of having Quesada or Bachalo do it - this costume is waaay better - I think if MArvel gets Amazing Fantasy comments from fans and that is OK they should trust the fans to design a good Spidey costume.

I wonder what a web-based (instead of snail mail based_ Dial H for Hero would be like today with all the amazing talent out there...

[Dirtbagjeff]

Dont really like the colors to much, but waiting to see what its all about. Should be interesting, hopefully.

[NeoSamurai]

Originally posted by Marine
replace the red with blue and the gold with red, dump the arms, and it would be better.

If they did this, I might've given it more than a 1.

[Adam Sasher]

I hate it! I have hated the entire "The Other" storyline that lead up to this and I think it is one of if not the worst looking costumes I have ever seen.

[Grimral]

The gold color kills it for me. I can deal with the new design if it serves a purose for the story line but that damn gold and red is ugly. It's made worse by the gold part on the feet. I like Joe Q and Bachalo but neither is a design genuius. They should have had Oliver Copiel or Lienil Yu do the design. I hate those arms. Ultimately it does't matter most comics fans are dorks and will by it even if they dislike it. I'm proud to way that I have not purchased a single issue of he other. I keep flipping through them and they seem to all look exactly the same. Nothing is happening in this series. The covers have changed more than the content. I wish they had just gone back to the black costume. The sweetest costume ever.

[sebzero11]

I went with "1", but only because there was no option for "0".
That thing is just ugly. And the Mechanichal arms...I'm sorry, Spidey needs those like he needed the Spidermobile..gyah...remember that thing?
And I'm not buying the whole "it's story driven".
If Civil War really needs the hook of Spidey's temporary costume change then maybe it's not all it's cracked up to be. I know, I know Quesada says it links Peter to Tony and leaves him feeling obligated to back him to an extent, but ya know what....Tony took in Peter, MJ, and even Aunt May when they had no homes, he's covered a bit o' the finances, and with all the tests, support, and medical treatment with Spidey's recent death, rebirth, recongifuration...(what the hell is up with those god awful stingers?!), that you could EASILY believe that Peter, king of the self-guilt-trip, and Mr. "great Responsibility" is already in a place where he would feel obligated to support Tony.
So, that in mind...I can't help but see this as a Hype-driven change that is put in just so we can all talk about it here and be uber-glad to hear it is only temporary...thus creating so much hype, that we all run out and buy every Iron Spidey appearance just so we can let out a collective :whew: when the offending thing is mothballed.
...damn, that was a long post....sorry...Spidey got me into comics, I have the entire Amazing run, from 1 (and A.F. #15) until just before the clones. I take Bad Spidey stories/art very personally.
sorry.

[OM]

Originally posted by Fxdx522
I also reward the "IRON SPIDER" with a "1". Regardless of any reason Marvel, Joe Q, and JMS can offer me, I don't see any reason for this. Spider-Man is a solo character, making him an Avenger and now the Iron Spider is bring him back to the early 90s with more gimmicks than story. No more. Sorry. ...Gimmics? I'm just wondering if this is another way for Marvel to try to screw the Kirby estate out of any more royalties, which is how the "black costume" came about in the first place.

[iwarrior]

It's not bad, but I don't think it'll last.

That thing is just ugly. And the Mechanichal arms...I'm sorry, Spidey needs those like he needed the Spidermobile..gyah...remember that thing?

That's why it won't last.

[iwarrior]

Gimmics? I'm just wondering if this is another way for Marvel to try to screw the Kirby estate out of any more royalties, which is how the "black costume" came about in the first place.

Kirby didn't design Spidey's costume, Steve Ditko did. Kirby did design a Spider-Man costume, but it was never used.

Those Silver Age guys were all doing work for hire and knew what they were getting into anyway.

[iwarrior]

Originally posted by Nathan Jewell
I voted 2. I would have voted 4 or 5 for this costume.

That 'aint bad.

But does Spidey really need a new look anyway? I mean, every other redesign didn't last. Who expects this one to last? I think it's just for a storyline.

[SpaceButler]

Originally posted by fuzznugget
OK I get the extra Spider arms but counting Spidey's normal 4 appendages I only see 3 extra arms. Don't spiders have 8 arms.

Unless he has one hidden in his pants.

Well, I gave it a 3, it will be ok for as long as its here, which will not be long.

As for the extra appendages being 3 instead of 4, well, I am fairly certain Anansi only had 7 legs in spider form. Here we probably have Tony working in the mystical side of Spider-Man from the JMS stories. Anansi was the first Spider-Man, according to JMS, Peter the latest.

Then again maybe Quesada just screwed up.

[kloud surfer]

As for the extra appendages being 3 instead of 4, well, I am fairly certain Anansi only had 7 legs in spider form. Here we probably have Tony working in the mystical side of Spider-Man from the JMS stories. Anansi was the first Spider-Man, according to JMS, Peter the latest.

I thought that thing on his left shoulder was another arm, just curled up at the back or something, but on closer inspection it is just part of that hideously ugly costume.

I gave it a 1. Luckily I dont actually read spiderman. I was planning to start but with all this 'The Other' stuff and the aftermath, I really cant be bothered...

[RocketBoy]

In regards to the story that will contain this suit, I take the "wait and see" approach... or at least I would if I were not unable to read Spider-man for many years now, and this certainly isn't going to draw me in.

However, in regards to my opinion on the actual costume design I do not need to "wait and see" since I can see it right there right now. And I don't like it all that much.

2 Stars **

[me399]

Call me crazy but I really like the new dud's.

I really wish that they would keep this new costume. I was not sure about the change when I saw the first prototype drawing of the new suit but this one rocks. I think it would be even better without the crazy spider-arms sticking out all over but I still thinks this new suit is a refreshing change.

[Alextron]

Well, assuming that it goes along with 'the other' story, it could be interesting. 3.

The costume could be good though, it 'grows' the brand. Whatever that means.

[deco]

Is any of this really very different than those silly Batman stories from the 1950's where the Caped Crusader seemed to wear a different costume every month --- you know --- The Rainbow Batman, The Zebra Batman, The Robot Batman, The Armored Batman. Ideas start runnin' a little thin when you've got a character in a dozen or so books a month. I say just put a dress on him and be done with it.

[JacktheKnife]

Sign me up with the "What the heck are they thinking" camp cause really? WTF is that. It's an awful costume. Had to go with "1" as I think this might be my least favorite Spider-Man costume.

[thearticle]

Originally posted by algertman
in the 90's we didn't have costumes this bad

nomad, scarlet spider, superboys costume, electric blue superman, daredevil, magneto's bedroom ware
by those standards the iron spider is leaps beyond those. sorry to prove u worng B.

[rogue_tomato]

Sorry, story related or not, it's not a cup o' tea :rolleyes:
(and Spiders have 8 limbs, why does Iron Spidey only have 7?!:confused: )

[Enigma20XX]

As several of the posters on this board have proven... changing the color would do wonders for it... and lose the arms...

[AntClair]

Wow that pin up sucks. Joe can't hold a pencil anymore or something. Whats with that foot at the bottom. He slipping on the anatomy. Normally he exagerates. Joe wants to be the next Erik Larsen/Leifeld or something. The design is hideous...makes me want to break all Joe's pencils and hide his drawing pads!

[Bog]

Originally posted by rogue_tomato

(and Spiders have 8 limbs, why does Iron Spidey only have 7?!:confused: )

Because you touch yourself at night.


I give the new suit a 4. Not the best, but still cool. Also, who cares about the classic suit? Isn't it still used in Ult. Spidey?

[Mason Dixon]

I went 4. At first I had myself convinced that it sucked, and that they were ruining a truely iconic character and his image. Then I sat back and said to myself, I said.."Myself? Just look at the costume and judge it on it's own merits." So I did. And you know what? I like the colour combination. I like the spider leg thingies that protrude from his back. I can't see this suit being permanent, but for the mean time I'll sit back and enjoy it.

Thanks for listening.

Mason.

[_kingforaday]

Originally posted by Bog


who cares about the classic suit? Isn't it still used in Ult. Spidey?

...

[lex luthor]

It looks horrible.

What exactly does this costume do? Why is it "special"?

[Varrus]

It sucks. Oh boy, it sucks HARD. Can we fire whoever is responsible for this large pile of cowdung? The robotic appendages look simply ridiculous and the overall suit design is much too plain with an ugly colour scheme to boot. JoeQ, I love ya man, I do...but this is just wrong. What were you thinking? I can live with a costume change once in awhile but at least make it look half-decent! :(

[JudgeCarlos]

Originally posted by OM
...Gimmics? I'm just wondering if this is another way for Marvel to try to screw the Kirby estate out of any more royalties, which is how the "black costume" came about in the first place.

I wanted to say that I read somewhere that Marvel cuts payment of royalties after 5 years of the creators' death and Kirby died in 1994.

[Mister]

error

[muikano]

Where exactly does the "iron" in the Iron Spider costume come from? It looks like shiny latex to me.

For a Stark design, it sure is low tech.

Oh the "irony."

I'm sorry, I like cotton pants on superheroes.
I also like the Ben Reilly wrist bands, only make them a bit smaller. The web can be organic but it doesn't mean Spidey needs to get rid of webshooters. It can mix other things into what Parker already ejects. Like iron so he can manipulate his webs with a focused maser (magnetic laser).

I'm too tired to finish this sketch.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/muikano/webspider.jpg

[orlandoT]

To me, it looks like it's trying to be Blue Beetle's new costume. While I'm not blown away with it, I don't see what the big hooplah is about. As the many variant covers pointed out, this is far from the first time that Spider-man has worn a different costume. From a business point of view, it makes no sense to me to make this change permanent, what with his original costume being instantly recognizable world wide. I say let's see where they take this storyline. We might be surprised and entertained.

[Punchy]

4 Stars

Not as good as the classic, but It'll do.

I like the storyline of the costume more than the look actually.

[WebHobbit]

It mainly sucks. I went with #1.

[Uncle Jawa]

It's definitely not something I want to see stick around, but it'll serve the story purposes and since we have other comics with Spidey in his classic costume, I don't mind in the least. It's not like the Superman Blue era where that was the only option you had (which made sense, considering his whole physiology changed, but still, it sucked LOL).

[Goat warrior]

Originally posted by Fxdx522
I also reward the "IRON SPIDER" with a "1". Regardless of any reason Marvel, Joe Q, and JMS can offer me, I don't see any reason for this. Spider-Man is a solo character, making him an Avenger and now the Iron Spider is bring him back to the early 90s with more gimmicks than story. No more. Sorry.

Exactly my feelings.

[xsyphon]

I'll give it a 4. It's not bad. I'd like to see it drawn by a few more artists though.

[Will44]

This costume is so bad. And I don't know what's sadder, the fact that Spiderman has had so many better alternate costumes before, or that the suit was revealed before the 12 issues of The Other ended. Now what's the payoff if you actually bought all 12 issues of that wretched story?

[MrMxyzptlk]

4 stars. I will make my final judgement after I will see spidey in action with this costume, and I will know what purpouse does it have in the story ... 'Til then 4 stars.

[Nate28]

1 star and i hate to say it. Joe Q's drawing is making spidey look like a super crack head. :D

[Goodhomerjay]

one big fat number 5 man!

I love Spidey, but either in his normal suit, the 2099 version, the symbiote one or the armored one. All the rest I can miss like a dentist apointment. Sorry, personal opinion...

[sephiroth617]

Gave it a 5. The sketch I did not like at all, but after seeing this AND Deodato's cover to New Avengers #19, I can say I like it.

And I can see why there's bashing since it's predominately a DC board.

Everyone has their own opinion, I know, but I think Marvel is doing the right thing. People wanna know what this costume does (even IF they think it's fugly). It's only lasting a few issues people.

So I leave most of you with this:

LIGHTEN UP!

[CrankyViking]

Meh. Gave it a 2. Would have given it a 1, but I realized I didn't have that much bile in my system. Give me a day, though.

[jedifish]

Piece of crap costume

[khuxford]

I had to go with 3. I was at 1 when they released the slapdash sketch. Then I was at 2 for awhile after the full version. But as I remembered this was a temporary thing that wasn't going to need a write-in campaign to get rid of :D, I settled on 3.

Edit: I have to be honest. The costume is pretty cool...if they're bringing back the Scarlet Spider to where it or some other supporting character/new spider character. But as it is for Peter, I want it to be temporary. Change the yellow to black or something like that, and it could probably grow on me.

[Jeffbot]

I gave it a 1 (because it's UGLY!), although I realize that it's probably temporary, so I'm not too worried.

[Blast-Off]

Originally posted by sephiroth617
Gave it a 5. The sketch I did not like at all, but after seeing this AND Deodato's cover to New Avengers #19, I can say I like it.

And I can see why there's bashing since it's predominately a DC board.

Everyone has their own opinion, I know, but I think Marvel is doing the right thing. People wanna know what this costume does (even IF they think it's fugly). It's only lasting a few issues people.

So I leave most of you with this:

LIGHTEN UP!

But, you like Collective Soul! What do you know?


I kid, I kid.

[OCM]

Gave it a 1!

In the immortal words of the dude(tte)s from In Living Colour,,

"Hated it!"

[sephiroth617]

Originally posted by Blast-Off
But, you like Collective Soul! What do you know?


I kid, I kid.

I'll take that as a humorous jab. I like what I like, what can I say.

[Fugu]

Originally posted by sephiroth617
Gave it a 5. The sketch I did not like at all, but after seeing this AND Deodato's cover to New Avengers #19, I can say I like it.

What cover, where can I find it?

As for my opinion: I voted 3 stars. It's alright. I like the story and I have good faith that this costume will have a good place in it. I hope Peter gets a better upgrade than the stingers and hightened spider-sense he has now, though.

Funny that Tony's so involved with Peter right now, seeing as he's going through some changes himself in is own book (see Iron Man #5). AWESOME upgrades for Iron Man in that book, by the way!

[AnimalMan#1-26]

Originally posted by bizarrolike
It's alright,I had something more in mind in terms of this

http://tinypic.com/mb1njl.jpg

The Black costume, which everyone loved was based on the 2nd Spider-woman's costume. So why not a costume based on the first (and current) Spider-woman's costume? I find it odd, actually, that no one has noticed that this suit is a knock-off of Spider-woman's (not that there is anything wrong with that-- it looks great). I like everything but the oddly shaped bulgy eyes, which were also one of the things i didn't like about the Iron Spidey suit.

[Dreemer]

i gave it a 5. :D only because that's what comics are for. to not be afraid to turn status quo upside down and do something different. the design is awesome and it looks like something "Tony Stark" would design, for spider-man. now if the story is brilliant, we won't care as much about the costume change. becasue that's what we really want just a good Spidey story. rather than a cheap gimic costume change.

had more to say....

peace out

[Rojada88]

I have to go with 3 on this issue. The costume may eventually grow on me, but at this time I want it to be a temporary thing. I think we Spider-Man fans may be rushing to conclusions. I mean we're so used to the old look and now that they're trying to change it we're all going ape$h!t. I don't know, though, I just want to know where Marvel is going with all this.

[sephiroth617]

Originally posted by Fugu
What cover, where can I find it?

As for my opinion: I voted 3 stars. It's alright. I like the story and I have good faith that this costume will have a good place in it. I hope Peter gets a better upgrade than the stingers and hightened spider-sense he has now, though.

Funny that Tony's so involved with Peter right now, seeing as he's going through some changes himself in is own book (see Iron Man #5). AWESOME upgrades for Iron Man in that book, by the way!

You can now find the New Avengers cover on the main page of Newsarama with the New Avengers Annual preview.

[Noam Choseed]

I'm sure it will be just as well remembered as the spider armor and the multiple identities he used in the nineties( see the Slingers series in a quarter bin near you):rolleyes: ;) :p

[samnoir]

It's pretty much non issue. Whenever these things happen, you know it will be temporary. Although Spiderman does have a habit of getting his old "new" costumes recycled.

If it's not Venom or Spidergirl, then you have the Slingers running around.

I'm sure there will be a character called Iron Spider or the Iron Arachnid running around the Marvel U at some point in the future after he's given it up.

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[Alextron]

Originally posted by AntClair
Wow that pin up sucks. Joe can't hold a pencil anymore or something. Whats with that foot at the bottom. He slipping on the anatomy. Normally he exagerates. Joe wants to be the next Erik Larsen/Leifeld or something. The design is hideous...makes me want to break all Joe's pencils and hide his drawing pads!

I liked it. I think the thing on Spider-man's feet gives the character weight that was missing with the black costume.

[DanteHicks1972]

It seems like Marvel wants to kill Spider-Man with dopey gimmick stunts....Iron Spider, The Other (which was utterly meaningless), The Clone Saga & Cosmic Spider-Man,,,,among othes uhhh Bendis needs to fill the baboons writing the other )no pun intended) who Spider-Man really is....

[TheMachine]

I gave it 4 stars. I love the extra three mechanical arms!

Here's my unsolicited prediction on the future of this suit (and what I'd love to see happen with it):

We all know that this suit is temporary, and that it will only be a matter of time before Spidey ends up back in his original classic red and blue costume. That having been said, I'd like to see this suit eventually end up in the wrong hands of of someone. I really like the look, but would like it even more if it was worn by a new member of Spidey's Rogue's gallery. Especially since we haven't had a great new villain since Venom (IMO).

Does anyone else think that at some point this would make a great suit for a new Spidey rogue?

[reddragon1978]

What's wrong with the old outfit....if its not broke, don't try to update it....you all will have to go back to the red and blue..heck you should have did a red white and blue symbolizing America..oh well my opinion never counts.

[NeoXorn]

I hope it doesn't take long for the classic costume to return. The HoM costume is better than this. I understand their need for change that's why I gave it a 2.

[BEANS65]

i think its cool for a temporary change

[ChuckNorris]

I give it a 4 because it does look awesome and in case all you whiners forgot it is temporary and plays a pivitol role in the civil war story line so settle down. I swear sometimes i cant tell if you babies actually like comic books or not, cus if all you gonna do is complain well, no one is forcing you to buy them.

[Baron Blood]

Meh, I actually don't mind it.

[Enigma20XX]

Originally posted by ChuckNorris
I give it a 4 because it does look awesome and in case all you whiners forgot it is temporary and plays a pivitol role in the civil war story line so settle down. I swear sometimes i cant tell if you babies actually like comic books or not, cus if all you gonna do is complain well, no one is forcing you to buy them.

Don't want to read their opinions... don't post here. I happen to think you're wrong about the costume, but you don't see me accusing you of whining about their opinions, do you?

[darkserenity]

I don't hate it but I don't love it. It could be worse...couldn't it?

[MaSaKaRi]

1 star: yuck! Marvel just keeps ruining spidey!

[bcwflash]

I think the costume being the story is what is worse than anything. I have every amazing spidey issue from 20 to current and full runs of his other titles but i must say that the spiderman i used to read and love has been lacking for a long time.
I bought it to have my run to continue and to hope to feel the excitement of old at some point with the new writers.
Not happening and with the bad stories bad costumes and continued confusion of renaming and cancelling tiles to relaunch i think this next marvel previews will not see me have any spiderman titles ordered anymore.
Straw meet camel.
I find the more marvel hypes up their change the less impressed i am for their big characters.
Still an X-book whore...maybe one day i can go cold turkey but as long as Dazzler is in a title it will never happen.

[defmonk12]

things like this are the reason that I have slowly stopped reading marvel comics...they are going back to teh crappy storylines and gimicks of the early 90's... that's why this got a 1

[shanethayer]

I hate it.

I will give it a shot, and I uasually love change but this I hate.

Why the robo arm things?

[Janin]

Originally posted by algertman
in the 90's we didn't have costumes this bad Armor Spidey anyone?

[MerinoTeflon]

I was harsh and gave it a one. I don't mind the concept of an Iron Spidey, for storytelling purposes, not in the slightest.
Messing around with the status quo is cool, but so what if its not permanent, no excuse for crappy designs, or a crappy design in my opinion, at least.
Even if it is a temp job, it is something that could be also used for other storylines, and of course, if it were it could be updated in and off itself, but I want be dazzled for my mucho dinero, not left with an impression of, 'They could've done soooo much better if they put a wee bit of THOUGHT into it'.
Hey, I'm not a mind reader, but it looks like a half-arsed job to my perceptions, and no amount of flashy JQ artwork will change my mind.
The costume is the issue, not the story, nor the ability of an artist to make ____ look appetising with a dynamic pose, fluid lines and shinyness, et al.

[thearticle]

Originally posted by MaSaKaRi
1 star: yuck! Marvel just keeps ruining spidey!

and u could do better?

[fistofkhonshu]

The story sounds interesting but if its anything like the last three or four times I've given spidey a shot since my subscription ran out in the 80s I'll still pass.

you left out a "0: its ridiculous, the pic makes it look like three arms instead of four with webs coming out of his butt."

[metlaneth]

Meaning of the costume change:

"We got terrible writers with no creativity. Our biggest Spider-Man event this year is a crap story called The Other. We need a hype to increase the sales and for that we don't respect or care the 60 years background of the character. Also new costume means a new Spidey action figure and we loooooove money."


As far as now the voting results shows %82 of 7861 people not liked or hated the costume. So I'm not the only one thinking like that.

[stvnhthr]

7 pages of comments and still going. I guess the costume is partially successful at doing what Marvel was hoping for; creating a bit of a buzz around the Spidey titles and we will probably all pick up one or two issues just to see what the heck Marvel was thinking.

[J_Man]

The comic industry has been nose diving for quite a while now. All these so called "hot" writers trying to make a name for themselves. Then once they do they have to top what they last did for the fanboy comic fans. The regular constant readers though are brushed aside. Spiderman hasn't been so hot for a while due to all this type of stuff.

They've stuck Spiderman in various outfits before though. It fit the story they were doing. If this is just something that fits the story, it would be fine enough I guess. Probably another Bendis stupid crossover craptacular though. Other than that I don't want to see this perminent. It needs a better redesign before they do that.

[Shinlyle]

This is the worst damned costume since Superman Red/Superman Blue.

I don't know WHAT kind of drugs the guys at Marvel were on when they thought this up, but it had to be some potent s*** for them to think that turning Spidey red & gold and giving him some dinky lil' mech arms was a "good idea".

This, on top of the "Other", is why I'm dropping Amazing Spider-Man from my pull list until JMS is freakin' gone.

[Jedi White]

Originally posted by Koben Kelly
I find it to be terribly unattractive. But, at least it's not as ugly as Daredevil's battle armor suit. *sigh*



It's even worse.

[Hypestyle]

I support the move, though I would prefer a black & gold motif..

[johnchrist]

It could be a fun idea, that's why I gave it a 3, but in my book nothing will ever compare to the Black Costume. I got into Spiderman right when McFarlane was drawinf Venom for the first time in Amazing #300, and (even though it would be pretty far fetched to achieve) I keep dreaming of the day they'll let Spidey wear that dark dark again.

[graffik]

A fan art image i made of Iron Spiderman I know I didn't add any webs just think of it as a flying jump.


Why spiderman should be changed once in awhile can be summed up in a South park quote 'The adventure of life is that there's always something new. New challenges, new experiences. A fun game is a game that gets harder as it goes. So it is with life. Do you understand?' If comics remained the same people whould stop reading them MMM!


I removed the geocities put it here instead


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[MerinoTeflon]

Yes, change is cool, again, it does not mean it is good by default. Sorry, nice effort, but he could almost be on stage with Siegfried and Roy, as opposed to out battling hardened, failed transvestites...or something.

[johnchrist]

Originally posted by bizarrolike
[B]It's alright,I had something more in mind in terms of this



I would've given bizarrolike's design a four or five, less Solid Gold Dancer, more sinister and threatening.

[Dreemer]

Originally posted by Hypestyle
I support the move, though I would prefer a black & gold motif..

http://www.darklightcomics.com/test/newSpidey.jpg

peace out

[khuxford]

Originally posted by johnchrist
I would've given bizarrolike's design a four or five, less Solid Gold Dancer, more sinister and threatening.

yeah...agreed...bizarrolike made a better design than the one they offered up, IMO.

[paulski]

Let me put it this way:

Drawn by Quesada? It's actually pretty snazzy. A real shame he's not doing the covers for the next few issues of ASM.

The bigger problem? Ron Garney gets first go at it next month. It will look horrendous.

Ergo, a 1/5. :(

[paulski]

Triple post, huh? Whoopsies... :eek:

[paulski]

I like to think I make good points sometimes. But not good enough that they need to be posted 3 times... :p

[FChamberlain]

Originally posted by Alextron
I liked it. I think the thing on Spider-man's feet gives the character weight that was missing with the black costume.

Huh. I thought that it made him look like a golfer's caddy.

[Alex Cruz]

I am very angry with this explotaition of character Spiderman.

[Alex Cruz]

I am very angry with this explotaition of character Spiderman.

[Herald]

It reminds me of the "New!" Blue Beetle outfit, which means I really despise it. So I gave it a 1.

Leave the Ditko designs alone, people!!

[spiderblack4]

It's alright for now but nothing beats the classic spidey suit

[MerinoTeflon]

Okay, so, being in the, "This is a crappy design" camp, no matter how good the artist is, I do not appreciate Marvels attempts to suddenly try and make Bryan Hitch look bad. What has he ever done to them???
I hope they paid him well for this.
I hope the quality of the story it appears in is worth having to put up with the first okayish idea for a costume that popped into somebodies head.
There is a likelihood that it will be, but arsecakes, this design really grates, I wish that they would go back to the drawing board, or at least the back of a beer mat even.

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[sephiroth617]

And the bashing continues.

[thearticle]

Originally posted by MerinoTeflon
Okay, so, being in the, "This is a crappy design" camp, no matter how good the artist is, I do not appreciate Marvels attempts to suddenly try and make Bryan Hitch look bad. What has he ever done to them???
I hope they paid him well for this.
I hope the quality of the story it appears in is worth having to put up with the first okayish idea for a costume that popped into somebodies head.
There is a likelihood that it will be, but arsecakes, this design really grates, I wish that they would go back to the drawing board, or at least the back of a beer mat even.

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I love the new suit its nice blingy and so done in the vein of iron man. hey man whered u get this pic i now u dont like it but i love it could u send me a link to where i would see it and more? also where is this pic from i mean which book is it from?

[MerinoTeflon]

Irony of ironies, I found it as I didst lurk the byrne forum! Hah!
Hey, sepiroth, I have reasserted that my opinion of the costume is just that, my opinion at least twice regarding this costume in previous posts.
Thats because I truly dislike it, and isn't this thread about garnering all opinions, if you like it, more power to yer elbow.
Now, the person who posted it in the Byrne forum did so without any link whatsoever, so, sorry, I canna help you there.

[sephiroth617]

Originally posted by MerinoTeflon
Irony of ironies, I found it as I didst lurk the byrne forum! Hah!
Hey, sepiroth, I have reasserted that my opinion of the costume is just that, my opinion at least twice regarding this costume in previous posts.
Thats because I truly dislike it, and isn't this thread about garnering all opinions, if you like it, more power to yer elbow.
Now, the person who posted it in the Byrne forum did so without any link whatsoever, so, sorry, I canna help you there.

Well, in all honesty, we've heard the opinion, do we really have to hear it again? I'm honestly sick of the Marvel bashing here lately. It really does no one any good. Let's just see how it's handled as a story which is the costume's purpose in the first place.

[MerinoTeflon]

Really, my pref is marginally more towards Marvel than any other publisher, they are who I grew up with, any comment I made about Marvel in my last post, was at best, gentle ribbing.
I would put a hundred smiley faces after each comment, but then I would have to shoot myself.
Notice that I also mentioned that the story could very well be good.
There is some talent artwise and storywise involved with this, in my opinion, tacky gear.
But this specific thread is about the said gear!By criminy!
To me it isn't as important as the overall art or story, by far, still, comics is a visual medium, and spidey happens to be quite a focus in it, particularily regarding the inspiration for this thread.

[sephiroth617]

I just have a request if someone could paint over the so called spats in red and we should see what the costume looks like if it were completely red where the spats are.