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MattBrady
08-11-2003, 06:54 AM
<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/sangiacomo/Epic2.jpg" width="200" height="304" border="0" hspace="2" align="right"><I>by Mike San Giacomo</I>

The Beatles had a heck of a problem with little George Harrison.

Their new guitarist was good, and the girls loved him, but as the boys learned when they played for months at the Star Club in Hamburg, George was only 17.

Despite their protests, he was deported back to England until he became legal.

I know how they felt.

Even before Mitch Breitweiser was given official approval to be the artist and inker for <b>Phantom Jack</b>, the five-part Epic/Marvel series that started out life as <b>Nowhere Man</b>, Mitch was already helping find a colorist.

As they had with artists and inkers, the candidates came to us.

Colorists sent query e-mails to Mitch and me, with samples of their craft. We sent out an inked page from <b>Phantom Jack</b> and asked them to give it a shot.

It was interesting to see how the different colorists chose to imbue the inks with different hues.

One guy’s work knocked us out.

“This guy <b>Jaime Jones</b> (http://www.artpad.org), look at what he did to Aziz’ cab,” said Mitch in a phone conversation. “He didn’t just color it yellow. He colored it and added those tiny rust marks under the window. You see ‘em?”

I sure did.

“And look at the road,” he said.

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/sangiacomo/001.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/sangiacomo/001_t.jpg" width="175" height="270" border="0" align="left"></a>Jaime didn’t color in a black surface, it was a dirty gray, with bumps and ridges. It showed lighter in certain areas, there were potholes in others.

Damn, this guy is good.

Mitch had heard of Jaime Jones somehow, through a friend of a friend of a friend.

There were a few other candidates who did nice work.

As with the inker, there was one other that I thought was great that Stephanie and Mitch hated. We talked about it, they pointed out some of the things they thought did not work in his style, I pointed out mine. I printed the colorists samples out and compared them all. Damn it, they were right.

Even so, my guy’s work was forgotten when I saw Jaime’s. As far as I was concerned, it was a done deal. I e-mailed him and made him the offer of a percentage of the sales and he was thrilled. I forget exactly how the revelation came, but it was something like we asked him if he could hit any of the comic conventions around his home state of North Carolina and push the comic. He replied that he could only if his mom let him.

Huh?

Jaime was 17.

This seemed impossible. How could someone that young be so darn good?

Jaime, of Raleigh, will be a senior this year at Enloe High School and plans to go on to college to pursue a career in some kind of illustration.
He said he picked up his first comic about 18 months ago and now regularly reads <b>Daredevil</b>, Jim Lee’s <b>Batman, Agent X</b> and a few others including the recently completed mini-series <b>The Resistance</b>.

Jaime is non-plussed, he’s enjoying the work and the attention. He said he began fiddling with digital art on his computer about three years ago, inspired by the work of Kristen Perry. When we realized how young the kid was, I feared maybe Mitch and I made a mistake. Perhaps he lucked out on that one page. Then we looked at more of his samples, they were all as good.

This kid is the real thing.

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/sangiacomo/jack.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/sangiacomo/jack_t.jpg" width="275" height="204" border="0" align="right"></a>Take a look at the difference between the inked and colorized page of a rematerializing Jack in the park after rescuing the homeless guy. He made the sky dark, but not too dark. He drew in some nice, moody fog, and accented the phantom form nicely. After the initial shock wore off, Jaime’s age was never an issue. He’s as professional as anyone and his work spoke volumes.

Later, after sending a particularly amazing page to some friends in the industry several remarked that this kid is going to make his way into the big time before you could say Lebron James.

Jamie’s age presented an unusual problem for Marvel Assistant Editor Stephanie Moore who said that they can’t make a contract with anyone under 18.

This caused a little bump in the road.

Marvel lawyers, being lawyers, said to just put everything on hold for a while or replace him.

What? We’ve already started working on the book and we were cooking. Moore had a better idea. Since Jaime turns 18 in September, he could just hold off signing the contract until then.

Whew.

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/sangiacomo/021.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/sangiacomo/021_t.jpg" width="175" height="263" border="0" align="left" alt="Phantom Jack #1, page 21"></a>Talking about Jaime’s age has made me realize what a strange group we were: a 50-year-old comic critic (okay 51, happy?) from Cleveland; a 25-year-old aspiring artist from Hoboken, N.J.; a 21-year-old letterer named Ray Dillon from Salina, Kansas, who is scary knowledgeable about computers and graphics (more on him soon) and a 17-year-old high school kid from Raleigh.

And yet, everything clicks.

Now that the hard part is over (for me anyway) this whole comic thing is great fun.

Let the kids work their tails off for a while.

<I>Mike Sangiacomo, a freelance writer for Newsarama and other sources, was invited to share his experiences with pitching to Epic by Newsarama's editor, Matt Brady, in the interest of keeping readers well informed. Brady advises Newsarama readers that he is aware of the inherent conflict of interest presented by journalists working for a publisher they cover. Sangiacomo's regular column Journey Into Comics has and will continue to be found in the Opinion/Editorial section of Newsarama. Brady has not, nor does he plan to pitch to Epic himself. </I>

ReVaNcHe
08-11-2003, 09:40 AM
1st post?!? Wow.

Well, all I can say is that the kid is good and I think he will be visible in the comic industry for a looooong time.

Rockin' Rich
08-11-2003, 10:35 AM
"New bassist"? What the !@#$ is he talking about? George Harrison played guitar. The Beatles' original bassist was Stu Suttcliffe, who WAS good looking, but couldn't play. When he finally left the band, Paul took over on bass.

mikesang
08-11-2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Rockin' Rich
"New bassist"? What the fuck is he talking about? George Harrison played guitar. The Beatles' original bassist was Stu Suttcliffe, who WAS good looking, but couldn't play. When he finally left the band, Paul took over on bass.

mikesang
08-11-2003, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by mikesang

Okay, that didn't work. Let's try again.
You're absolutely right about George and I knew that, even talked to my wife about it, but these damn fingers still typed in bassist. Damn. May George forgive me, wherever he may be.
M

gOgIver
08-11-2003, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by Rockin' Rich
"New bassist"? What the fuck is he talking about? George Harrison played guitar. The Beatles' original bassist was Stu Suttcliffe, who WAS good looking, but couldn't play. When he finally left the band, Paul took over on bass.

I was going to say that too but you beat me to it RR!

EDIT See below

gOgIver
08-11-2003, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by mikesang
Okay, that didn't work. Let's try again.
You're absolutely right about George and I knew that, even talked to my wife about it, but these damn fingers still typed in bassist. Damn. May George forgive me, wherever he may be.
M

Apology accepted!:)

Rockin' Rich
08-11-2003, 11:48 AM
I edited the naughty word from my post. Sorry; Monday-morning-itis, though I suggest clarity in your lead next time, Mikey. <br>(And don't mess with Beatles fans!)

<br><br>
xxx<br>
Rich

mikesang
08-11-2003, 12:15 PM
Note that the change was made in the story. George is on the guitar and all's right with the world. Except that Yoko is still out there.
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OcCaM
08-11-2003, 12:28 PM
Can we get back to the topic at hand? Who cares about the freaking Beatles? (J/K , no not really, not a big fan, sorry!)

Anyway, avoiding any flames to come, the colourist is fantastic! I noticed the details that he added to the inked product from previous Sang. columns, but it's just one of those things you don't think about. Shaping up to be one of the best looking Epic books out there. (Now, if only this unknown writer is any good! :) )

Mike Norris
08-11-2003, 03:34 PM
Not to pick any more nits, but George's age was hardly a surprise to the other Beatles. Paul and George were school mates, so I'm pretty sure he knew how old George was. No doubt John, Pete and Stu had a clue as well. He wan't all that "new" either having played with John and Paul for about two years in the Quarrymen and the first incarnation of the Beatles. Stu and Pete were the newest members when the band went to Hamburg.

Nice color BTW.

Mike

mikesang
08-11-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Mike Norris
Not to pick any more nits, but George's age was hardly a surprise to the other Beatles. Paul and George were school mates, so I'm pretty sure he knew how old George was. No doubt John, Pete and Stu had a clue as well. He wan't all that "new" either having played with John and Paul for about two years in the Quarrymen and the first incarnation of the Beatles. Stu and Pete were the newest members when the band went to Hamburg.

Nice color BTW.

Mike
Remind me never to mention the Beatles again.
Yeah, they knew he was 17, but they were surprised that anyone cared. But please, can we stop talking about it and focus on Jaime? Geez.
M

Doug Smith
08-11-2003, 06:47 PM
"Talking about Jaime’s age has made me realize what a strange group we were: a 50-year-old comic critic (okay 51, happy?) from Cleveland; a 25-year-old aspiring artist from Hoboken, N.J.; a 21-year-old letterer named Ray Dillon from Salina, Kansas, who is scary knowledgeable about computers and graphics (more on him soon) and a 17-year-old high school kid from Raleigh."

Don't forget the editor who's young enough to be your daughter! ;) I asked her recently what her professional background was, and she replied, "Well, since I graduated in 2001...."

Made me feel damn old! :(

(But I'm still younger than Mike S.)

Mike, just out of curiosity, had you ever tried your hand at comic writing at any point in the past - or have you always been a journalist, who just happened to find a way to incorporate your hobby into your work via your columns?

Alan Coil
08-11-2003, 09:33 PM
Hah! Mike is older than me! (christ, I'm old).

But to the subject at hand, Jaime Jones. Nice colors. Congrats to Jaime.

I would have thought the age issue could have been circumvented by having a parent sign the contract for the first few issues. The only thing I would be concerned about is that he might lose track of his school work. He plans to go to college, so it's important that he keep up with his studies.

On the other hand, some of the greats in comics never went to higher education. Also, there have been some artists who had no formal training, but have lamented that fact in interviews.

Aaron Weisbrod
08-11-2003, 11:27 PM
Jaime is non-plussed, he’s enjoying the work and the attention. He said he began fiddling with digital art on his computer about three years ago, inspired by the work of Kristen Perry. When we realized how young the kid was, I feared maybe Mitch and I made a mistake. Perhaps he lucked out on that one page. Then we looked at more of his samples, they were all as good.

KRISTEN PERRY?!? Wow... he has good taste! Kristen is a good friend of mine, and possibly one of the most talented "undiscovered" artists out there. She knows damn well I would give my left nut if it would prompt her to do sequential work, too... but she just aint interested. *sigh*

Oh well... at least she does covers and such! :p (*cough* http://Nightmare.GoldenGoatStudios.com -- see HOW DO YOU SLEEP? -- *cough*)

Talking about Jaime’s age has made me realize what a strange group we were: a 50-year-old comic critic (okay 51, happy?) from Cleveland; a 25-year-old aspiring artist from Hoboken, N.J.; a 21-year-old letterer named Ray Dillon from Salina, Kansas, who is scary knowledgeable about computers and graphics (more on him soon) and a 17-year-old high school kid from Raleigh.

And yet, everything clicks.

Yup... it sure does! PHANTOM JACK is looking phenomenal, guys!

Also, I would like to echo the sentiment that Mitch and Ray are super-swell fellas. :) I've had a passing aquaintance (as a fellow studio member) with Mitchell for a while now, and Ray is a helluva guy that I am proud to call my friend. (Ray also spoke very highly of Jamie as well... lol)

Keep up the great work guys!

Gettin' too damn sappy for his own damn good,
Aaron Weisbrod

P.S.-- I was reading over this post and noticed something odd: Mike, like me, is also a journalist from Ohio, and Mike knows several members of the studio I belong to. One of these members reccomended a colorist who was inspired by a friend of mine I've been tight with since high school -- a talented young woman who recently illustrated the cover to my NIGHTMARE WORLD story named after a Beatles song... tying into the Beatles analogy Mike used to start the column! Serindipity or self-indulgence? U-DECIDE! :rolleyes: lol

Bryan S7
08-12-2003, 12:41 AM
Kristen Perry sounds weirdly familiar, like a woman I met at a comic shop year or so ago. Who is she?

shwa96
08-12-2003, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by Aaron Weisbrod
KRISTEN PERRY?!? Wow... he has good taste! Kristen is a good friend of mine, and possibly one of the most talented "undiscovered" artists out there. She knows damn well I would give my left nut if it would prompt her to do sequential work, too... but she just aint interested. *sigh*

Oh well... at least she does covers and such! :p (*cough* http://Nightmare.GoldenGoatStudios.com -- see HOW DO YOU SLEEP? -- *cough*)

That's where I know that name from.

Aaron, next time you see Kristen, thank her for me. If it weren't for her, we probably wouldn't be looking at this kid's work.

OM
08-12-2003, 04:58 AM
...Then again, 17 is nothing compared to how old Jim Shooter was when he started - 13. By the time he was 17, he'd done quite a few <i>Legion</i> stories before his mom reportedly made him quit comics and get a job at a Kentucky Fried Chicken stand. He might have recovered from that trauma - food service is <i>not</i> conductive to mental health - had it not been for the fact that his chronic acne penetrated into his brain, attacking the reasoning centers and eventually leading to a total loss of people skills.

But regardless of age, the kid's got talent. I'd wish him luck, but I have a feeling he won't need it :-)

Ray Dillon
08-12-2003, 03:31 PM
Jaime leaves me speachless (despite the fact I'm about to give a little speach ;) ) His work is phenomenal for a pro, let alone someone younger than me (a very rare occurance). But the fact that he didn't even pick up a comic until 18 months ago... JESUS!!! Lookin' forward to seeing your career progress, man!!

Aaron Weisbrod
08-12-2003, 05:20 PM
Bryan S7 -- Well, she used to frequent JC's Comic Stop... does that help? ;)

shwa96 -- Heh. It's funny you mention that -- Kristen's flying in from Seattle this weekend for our 10 Year Reunion and we're going to be hangin' out! YAY!!! Wait a minute... 10 year reunion?!? Gawd... I'M old TOO! :eek:

Ray -- Dammit, man... we just spent the weekend together at WizardWorld and then you turn around and throw down a typo AGAIN! Fix yer post! It's driving me nuts! Fix it! Fix it, I say... or I will SLAP YOUR FACE! :p

By the way, for anybody interested, Kristen's website is www.MereKatCreations.com (http://www.MereKatCreations.com) ... and she'll also be doing the cover to NIGHTMARE WORLD #9: NOT FOR YOU which is illustrated by the equally amazing Carolina Eade! Sniff around the NW website and you'll find some preview art! ;)

Done pluggin',
Aaron Weisbrod