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MattBrady
11-15-2005, 05:43 PM
<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Hulk/PLANET_HULK.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Hulk/PLANET_HULK-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="270" alt="" / align="right"></a><I>Press Release</I>

<blockquote> “Planet Hulk,” the biggest Hulk event in the Jade Giant’s history, is set to begin in Incredible Hulk #92 and Greg Pak, writer of the acclaimed Phoenix: Endsong and member of Marvel’s Ten Terrific, is taking the Hulk there. Along with artist Carlo Pagulayan, Pak is set to bring the Hulk on the most incredible ride of his life leading up to the milestone issue Incredible Hulk #100.

“Most of the great Marvel characters are misfits—that's the classic Marvel twist which makes these heroes so compellingly human,” says Ten Terrific writer Greg Pak. “But the Hulk may be the greatest misfit of all—he has the heart of a hero, but in the eyes of puny humans, his incredible anger and power make him the planet's most terrifying monster.”</blockquote><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Hulk/MARVEL_THE-HULK.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Hulk/MARVEL_THE-HULK-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="236" alt="" / align="left"></a><blockquote>“Planet Hulk” will find the Hulk completely out of his element, stranded on a distant world with inhabitants just as powerful as he is. So is it possible for the Hulk to survive this harsh planet? And possibly even thrive there?

"Planet Hulk’ thrusts the Hulk into a savage world in which a corrupt empire uses the spectacle of bloody gladiatorial combat to distract its citizens, discipline its slaves, and dispose of its enemies,” says Pak. “In a world in which might makes right and he who wins in the arena has the chance to influence thousands, what path will the Hulk take? Will the monster become a hero? Or will he become the worst tyrant the universe has ever seen?”

”I'm hugely excited about the story,” reveals Pak. “It combines a fun science fiction premise with a great character arc. And we've got monsters and robots, swords and spaceships, a corrupt emperor and a fierce woman warrior, bug people, Shadow Walkers, and the Hulk at his angriest and most vulnerable and most lethal on the precipice of huge decisions and new directions. And to top it off, Carlo Pagulayan is penciling. He's a superstar in the making and his Hulk is going to blow people's minds.”</blockquote><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Hulk/INCRHULK092.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Hulk/INCRHULK092-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="259" alt="" / align="right"></a><blockquote>A whole new world means a whole new supporting cast for the Hulk, including new enemies, new powerful alien races, and possibly even a new love interest

"I think this story is going to become one of the most definitive Hulk arcs in years,” says editor Mark Paniccia. “We’re looking into the heart of the monster side of Bruce Banner. What will we find? You’re going to be shocked…and moved. And we promise there’s going to be lots of action in this series. It’s going to make your head spin!”

Pak and Pagulayan are sure to bring new meaning to the the words Hulk Smash as Planet Hulk sees Bruce Banner’s alter ego fighting to survive on a hostile alien world. But just how will this effect the Hulk for years to come? Find out in Incredible Hulk #92 as the epic “Planet Hulk” begins.</blockquote>

KyleV
11-15-2005, 05:50 PM
This sounds like something Stan Lee would have come up with back in the day.

I like it.

eh_ver
11-15-2005, 05:56 PM
I guess I'm a little thrown by this. I figured Planet Hulk to be the next marvel crossover event. Doesn't sound like it could be much of a crossover if Hulk is on a completely different planet from everyone else. I'm glad to hear that it MAY be its own Hulk epic thing. I've enjoyed Pak's writing (and movie) and this sounds like it could be lots of fun.

HartyPotter
11-15-2005, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by eh_ver
I guess I'm a little thrown by this. I figured Planet Hulk to be the next marvel crossover event. Doesn't sound like it could be much of a crossover if Hulk is on a completely different planet from everyone else. I'm glad to hear that it MAY be its own Hulk epic thing. I've enjoyed Pak's writing (and movie) and this sounds like it could be lots of fun.

If I remember correctly, Marvel didn't describe Planet Hulk as a big crossover, just simply a large event. But, of course, the event will hopefully be major enough for the Hulk that the other titles reflect the changes in the Hulk in any appearances afterwards.

bruno
11-15-2005, 05:59 PM
Anyone know who this artist is? Where can I find some of his work? Premise sounds a lot like when the Hulk went to Jarella's world.

Sounds interesting, but not what I had hoped. How is this going to tie the Hulk into the rest of the Marvel Universe? I guess it will be a big deal when he returns, but that will be in like what, a year?

Bruno

FallenFate
11-15-2005, 05:59 PM
It sounds a lot like the Microverse/Jarella arc that ran through the Hulk in the late 70s. Hulk #140 was one of the best issues and the Jarella storyline was definitely a high point. The late 70's/early 80's issues of the Hulk are some of my favorite comics, and it's nice to see something coming that hearkens back to those days.

Punchy
11-15-2005, 06:00 PM
LADRONN!

skinnyboy23
11-15-2005, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by bruno
Anyone know who this artist is? Where can I find some of his work? Premise sounds a lot like when the Hulk went to Jarella's world.

Sounds interesting, but not what I had hoped. How is this going to tie the Hulk into the rest of the Marvel Universe? I guess it will be a big deal when he returns, but that will be in like what, a year?

Bruno

carlos pagulayan. did work on ruckas elektra and has done marvel age fantastic four. hes a great artist, and this looks great.

Christian Otte
11-15-2005, 06:02 PM
Sounds like a lot of fun and the preview art looks great. Count me in :) .

bizarrolike
11-15-2005, 06:02 PM
This is what I am talking about.....This is gonna be some take on the hulk...can't wait.

bruno
11-15-2005, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by skinnyboy23
carlos pagulayan. did work on ruckas elektra and has done marvel age fantastic four. hes a great artist, and this looks great.

Thanks! They just updated the page with some art as well.

Bruno
www.hulkmovie.com

tralfaz
11-15-2005, 06:06 PM
I hope HULK comes back and destroys the heroes, then Ill be content :D

Pikachu007
11-15-2005, 06:07 PM
I miss PAD already.... http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/sad/014.gif

Crazy Penguin
11-15-2005, 06:08 PM
Sounds like a good storyline, and I hope it is just that.

Auburn
11-15-2005, 06:12 PM
Wow. I was dubious about this thing when announced because I couldn't really see myself enjoiyng an event centered around Hulk, and I couldn't see it working out well. This sounds really cool though.

noir
11-15-2005, 06:13 PM
a mojo/magus rip off

MistaT73
11-15-2005, 06:15 PM
AWESOME!! I've been waiting to find out more about this event eversince I first heard of it, and I must say it sounds great!

I also thought that this was going to be a MU event, but am in no way disapointed that it's not. The Jarella microverse storyline was by far my favorite of all the Hulk stories and this looks to be on par with it. I'm curious to see exactly where this planet is and how it fits into the rest of the MU. Hopefully we'll see the Troyjans tie into this. Armageddon always vowed revenge for the death of his son Trauma, and I've patiently been waiting for that loose end to be played out.

bruno
11-15-2005, 06:17 PM
More of the new artiist work can be found on his online portfolio:

http://www.carlopagulayan.com/

Bruno

Coward
11-15-2005, 06:21 PM
From the green planet poster that's been bandied about I'd also assumed that this was a crossover event; I thought that maybe that little green star was a gamma ray burster or something and the entire Earth was going to hulk out, or even worse, turn into Abominations. Can't say this press release his disappointed me, only that it was different from what I was expecting. Looks surprisingly interesting too. Great to see The Hulk getting some focus from Marvel.

MistaT73
11-15-2005, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by bruno
More of the new artiist work can be found on his online portfolio:

http://www.carlopagulayan.com/

Bruno

Thanks for the link to his sight. His art looks impressive. I'm psyched about this.

HULK SMASH!!:mad:

Baz-kun
11-15-2005, 06:24 PM
Looking forward to this even more now they've released that artwork. 'Tis a shame that Planet Hulk's not the big crossover but what with it (apparently) tying in to The Illuminati we can but hope Bruce'll get some time in the limelight. for once.

minmin
11-15-2005, 06:25 PM
um... not wanting to sound negative... but the premise of the story seems very familiar and unoriginal... so unless the initial description of the storyline is just a way to throw us off.. and unless there is a huge unexpected twist... this story sounds pretty damn boring to me...

how many times did we need to these hero thrown into gladiator pit stories? i remember paul smith and walt simonson had a good one in the old x-factor series...

oh well.. i hope it turns out better than it initially sounds!

go pak!!

MistaT73
11-15-2005, 06:28 PM
“Planet Hulk,” the biggest Hulk event in the Jade Giant’s history, is set to begin in Incredible Hulk #92 and Greg Pak, writer of the acclaimed Phoenix: Endsong and member of Marvel’s Ten Terrific, is taking the Hulk there. Along with artist Carlo Pagulayan, Pak is set to bring the Hulk on the most incredible ride of his life leading up to the milestone issue Incredible Hulk #100.


Does this mean it's only going to be eight issues? I hope not that wouldn't make much of an "event".

captain spectre
11-15-2005, 06:28 PM
Pikachu007
Where the hell did you get that signature image that tells all?????? that is so wierd...........
and scary........

lex luthor
11-15-2005, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Pikachu007
I miss PAD already.... http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/sad/014.gif

Yeah, me too.

MistaT73
11-15-2005, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by minmin
how many times did we need to these hero thrown into gladiator pit stories?

TILL HULK SMASHES THEM ALL!!!!:mad:

jubilee
11-15-2005, 06:30 PM
this looks pretty cool, glad its taking place in the actual hulk book, and not a Planet Hulk mini or something

lex luthor
11-15-2005, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by MistaT73
Does this mean it's only going to be eight issues? I hope not that wouldn't make much of an "event".

Eight is enough of an event for me. I hope this doesn't turn into Infintie Crisis - Hulk Style.

Jack Burton
11-15-2005, 06:33 PM
Sounds really cool to me. A little like Superman on Warwold but I love that story so it's all good.

Sunless
11-15-2005, 06:33 PM
Does this sound absolutely kick ass awesome or what!

Punchy
11-15-2005, 06:34 PM
I repeat:

LADRONN!

khuxford
11-15-2005, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by bruno
Anyone know who this artist is? Where can I find some of his work? Premise sounds a lot like when the Hulk went to Jarella's world.

Sounds interesting, but not what I had hoped. How is this going to tie the Hulk into the rest of the Marvel Universe? I guess it will be a big deal when he returns, but that will be in like what, a year?

Bruno

I'm in the same place as you...it could be interesting, but it wasn't what I was hoping for. I'd be more psyched if it was happening in a more well known area of the Marvel Universe. It can still turn out well, but if it was on Planet Earth or in our solar system, I'd be more psyched and assuming the best...but since there is so much that is unknown, I'm not so psyched and I'm pretty non-plussed. :p

MistaT73
11-15-2005, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by Sunless
Does this sound absolutely kick ass awesome or what!

Definitely, I haven't been this excited about a comic since...ever!
The HULK is long overdue for his time in the spotlight.

MistaT73
11-15-2005, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by khuxford
I'm in the same place as you...it could be interesting, but it wasn't what I was hoping for. I'd be more psyched if it was happening in a more well known area of the Marvel Universe.

I think it would have been pretty hard to pull a HULK event off in the MU. I mean how many time do we need to see the HULK beat the crap out of everybody?

Well actually that is always pretty fun.:D

uberfan
11-15-2005, 06:40 PM
This sounds like the Hulk of old, and I for one applaud it! Hulk on other worlds, fighting for survival, fighting impossible odds and creatures...
The Hulk in the "real world" or even the Marvel Earth is just too dangerous to allow to roam the earth and the Marvel heroes would have, should have, tried to stop him/Bruce regardless of definitive guilt.
Mutants hiding their powers is one thing, but a big f-ing green monster tearing s--t up??!!! C'mon, "W" wouldn't stand for it, and neither should Cap!

khuxford
11-15-2005, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by MistaT73
I think it would have been pretty hard to pull a HULK event off in the MU. I mean how many time do we need to see the HULK beat the crap out of everybody?

Well actually that is always pretty fun.:D

That's what I'm saying. :D I'd like to see the Hulk go back to being an honest to God fugitive for a year where many in the Marvel Universe try to wrangle him. That could be fun for a limited run. I know...not original...but I'm just saying I'd be more psyched about that. I'll give this a shot.

Trachman
11-15-2005, 06:59 PM
Hulk with a giant axe. I like.:D

MistaT73
11-15-2005, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by khuxford
That's what I'm saying. :D I'd like to see the Hulk go back to being an honest to God fugitive for a year where many in the Marvel Universe try to wrangle him. That could be fun for a limited run. I know...not original...but I'm just saying I'd be more psyched about that. I'll give this a shot.

I always thought it would be cool to get rid of Banner permantely, or at least semi-permanately. Put Banner in a coma and make the HULK the dominant personality 24-7. I'm kinda sick of him always running and hiding somewhere.

al_capone
11-15-2005, 07:01 PM
This sounds great! After years of these slow paced "Incredible Bruce Banner" stories we've been getting lately (which I did actually like, but was beginning to grow weary of towards the end) it's a great change of pace to see that we're getting some old-school Incredible Hulk action soon! And to top it of Marvel aren't even going to be re-launching the series to coinside with the event, as I was sure they were going to do.

Snowspinner
11-15-2005, 07:01 PM
Well. Huh. This actually sounds pretty good.

(See! I don't always Marvel bash!)

Headache John
11-15-2005, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Punchy
I repeat:

LADRONN!

Why, pray tell, are you repeating it?

bizarrolike
11-15-2005, 07:08 PM
Who ever said this would not effect the marvel universe? First he has to go through a change then we will see how he affects everyone else.

funksinatra
11-15-2005, 07:15 PM
am excited about this project because of pagulayan's art..hes from the Philippines like me and goes to the comic shop i go to but just had met him once......i think its time for him to shine

MistaT73
11-15-2005, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by funksinatra
am excited about this project because of pagulayan's art..hes from the Philippines like me and goes to the comic shop i go to but just had met him once......i think its time for him to shine

PINOY POWER!!

ghostly1
11-15-2005, 07:21 PM
My (completely off the top of my head) guess: Hulk takes over this alien empire (which is not a single world, but one spanning many) and leads it into conquest.

Altercator
11-15-2005, 07:30 PM
Aw shoot, and here I'm expecting the "event" to be about everyone on Earth, super-heroes included, would be infected with the Hulk-itis, that'll turn them into Hulk versions of themselves. I mean, what if Captain America or Spider-Man got turn into Hulks? That's what I'm looking forward.

Instead, it's just "Hulk goes to planet of monsters, smash ass, and have a cup of Java." To quote a wise person:


Meh.

Kepler
11-15-2005, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by ghostly1
My (completely off the top of my head) guess: Hulk takes over this alien empire (which is not a single world, but one spanning many) and leads it into conquest.

...and then takes over the Earth.

ejulp
11-15-2005, 07:36 PM
i think the marvel divided or whatever its called event is to dovetail out of this one in some way...
but yeah
i know none of you guys are going to believe me but this is an idea I've had since like Junior High :)

so yes this is literally a fanboy's dream come true lol

AND WE GOT GREG PAK hoorayy

The Marvel
11-15-2005, 07:42 PM
First, is his full name "Greg Pak" or "Ten Terrific Greg Pak?" I can't tell based on this news item.

Second, I think the idea has potential, but I have found TTG Pak's other work to be seriously lacking in both imagination and direction. So I have interest in the idea, but, sadly, no faith in the writer, based on his work so far.

khuxford
11-15-2005, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Headache John
Why, pray tell, are you repeating it?

I'm guessing because plenty of people are acting as though all of the art is by the other artist, while the one splash sketch is done by Ladronn, as the label says.

Skatonic10
11-15-2005, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by eh_ver
I've enjoyed Pak's writing (and movie) and this sounds like it could be lots of fun.

Yes, I too enjoyed MVP: Most Valuable Primate, All Amateur Ecstacy, and Asian Pride Porn. Planet Hulk has to be much better than those

ghostly1
11-15-2005, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Kepler
...and then takes over the Earth.

Or tries to, anyway. Naturally, this gets some of the other Marvel heroes involved a little. :)

MistaT73
11-15-2005, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by ghostly1
Or tries to, anyway. Naturally, this gets some of the other Marvel heroes involved a little. :)

HULK WILL SMASH THEM ALL!!

But it would be intersting to see what kind a fight SENTRY could give him.

Sesshomaru
11-15-2005, 07:55 PM
Aw shoot, and here I'm expecting the "event" to be about everyone on Earth, super-heroes included, would be infected with the Hulk-itis, that'll turn them into Hulk versions of themselves. I mean, what if Captain America or Spider-Man got turn into Hulks? That's what I'm looking forward.

Instead, it's just "Hulk goes to planet of monsters, smash ass, and have a cup of Java." To quote a wise person:


Meh.

Well , not to trying to be rude , but i kinda find your idea Meh as well :D . The whole earth turned into "Hulkings" seems boring , a bit too wacky and something that should belong to an exiles arc or what if story . not to mention as well the truckloads of people that would happily criticize another reality/worldwide change right after HoM .

I dig this one , especially after such a long time of weak storylines with the Hulk talking to himself , while running into the woods . I even suspect that by now , he should probably have a precise map of the woods of USA , somewhere inside his head :D

MistaT73
11-15-2005, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Sesshomaru
I even suspect that by now , he should probably have a precise map of the woods of USA , somewhere inside his head :D

Hulk-Park Ranger:D

Headache John
11-15-2005, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by khuxford
I'm guessing because plenty of people are acting as though all of the art is by the other artist, while the one splash sketch is done by Ladronn, as the label says.

I totally missed that. now I know.

Solamon
11-15-2005, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Pikachu007
I miss PAD already.... http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/sad/014.gif
I didn't really like PAD on Hulk all that much. He joked around too often and I prefer a more dark, frightening, monster-like Hulk. Kind of like how Bruce Jones's depiction was. I hope Planet Hulk will be more like Jones's and less like PAD's.

MistaT73
11-15-2005, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Solamon
I didn't really like PAD on Hulk all that much.

I hated the Professor Hulk!!

Crazy Penguin
11-15-2005, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by bizarrolike
Who ever said this would not effect the marvel universe? First he has to go through a change then we will see how he affects everyone else.

Why should that happen? Why should this be anything other than a Hulk story?

"Holy crap! Hulk's ditched his purple pants for INDIGO pants. How does Spider-Man feel about this?"

Mason Dixon
11-15-2005, 08:31 PM
Looks really good. This would be the first time Hulk has grabbed my attention since the Pantheon days. I'll definately pick up the first issue.

BillReed
11-15-2005, 08:32 PM
LADRONN!?!?!?

____ YEAH!!!

Roman Brady
11-15-2005, 08:50 PM
Awesome! Marvel's bringing back old school Hulk!

I'm so stoked! :D :D :D

muddlepud
11-15-2005, 09:13 PM
I was also thinking that Planet Hulk was going to be the next big crossover event.

The ideas I was getting, was a near worldwide release of Gamma Bombs and turning many many people into Hulk type creatures and running amok. I think I heard something about the renegade SHIELD faction stockpiling Gamma Bombs.

Guess I'm wrong.

maxx
11-15-2005, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by bruno
More of the new artiist work can be found on his online portfolio:

http://www.carlopagulayan.com/

Bruno

deng ya'all killed his site already..but his fault for bein on sum ghetto service..now he can afford a real website.

i hope the hulk turns tyrant after this...sounds a bit like the riddick chronicles...like he's gonna accidently rule the planet by overthrowing its ruler.

Auburn
11-15-2005, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by al_capone
And to top it of Marvel aren't even going to be re-launching the series to coinside with the event, as I was sure they were going to do.

Yep. Very decent of them not to screw the series over by starting back at #1 again.

Auburn
11-15-2005, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Altercator
Aw shoot, and here I'm expecting the "event" to be about everyone on Earth, super-heroes included, would be infected with the Hulk-itis, that'll turn them into Hulk versions of themselves. I mean, what if Captain America or Spider-Man got turn into Hulks? That's what I'm looking forward.


That is exactly what I was afraid was going to happen, and I was dreading it. This sounds much better, and I'm interested in getting it now.

saiyanspider
11-15-2005, 09:43 PM
This sounds awesome! I can't wait till it starts!

Doom the 3rd
11-15-2005, 09:57 PM
I'm getting this definetely. This sounds exactly like something I'd read. Also enjoyed the first issue of Daniel Way's 4 issue run, which I hear when it ends, it'll lead right into Planet Hulk. The artwork looks awesome too.

Bird Flu Man
11-15-2005, 09:58 PM
Looks awesome. Pak is a great writer.

It'd be great to see some old Hulk-related aliens like Xeron the Star-Slayer (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/xeronhlk.htm), Klaatu (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/klaatuhu.htm), Zgorian (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/zgoria.htm), and the Horusians (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/horusians.htm)!

Lobok
11-15-2005, 10:00 PM
I'm psyched about this. It does sound like a familiar premise, but bringing in Hulk's inner conflicts makes it interesting. You never thought Superman was ever going to take over Warworld, but with Hulk, who knows.

Spider-Bob
11-15-2005, 10:08 PM
Some of my favorite Hulk stories involve him on alien planets and in strange dimensions with no puny humans.

amlah6
11-15-2005, 10:25 PM
Ughhhh...

I was excited about this when it looked like Daniel Way was going to be handling this. I guess his current arc will be his only involvement. :(

Am I the only one who read Pak's Iron Man: HoM mini? That thing was freaking awful.

Big Red
11-15-2005, 10:28 PM
I maaayyy give this a try.

Then again, I may...dare I say it... wait for the trade.

(If I hear good things.)

beta-ray
11-15-2005, 10:30 PM
Though I am not a big Hulk fan, and the premise does not sound THAT great... the art looks very interesting... I will think about picking this one up...

Maybe the other heroes will go looking for the Hulk sometime down the line?

Blackbeard
11-15-2005, 10:50 PM
FINALLY-- a Hulk storyline that may actually be good!
I'm looking forward to this! :)

RocketBoy
11-15-2005, 11:09 PM
So, Planet Hulk isn't so much an 'Event' as it is just a Story Arc? Oh well; there's Mighty Marvel Marketing for ya.

I'll probably check out the start of the story arc at least. I love the Hulk character, but PAD is usually there to keep me away.

SuperBat77
11-15-2005, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by MistaT73
Does this mean it's only going to be eight issues? I hope not that wouldn't make much of an "event".

Well, I think that it'll be 9 issues (92-100). But who says that 9 issues can't be a big event? Remember how big Batman's 12 issue Hush arc was? Although, I do have to say that I am dissapointed too. I was hoping for a big Marvel Universe epic all centered around the Hulk.

EmeraldGuy32
11-15-2005, 11:24 PM
this actually looks suprisingly good.

Mercury
11-15-2005, 11:26 PM
nothing against this storyline whatsoever- but it incidentally is extremely similar to a Hulk storyline that took place from the first series #300-#313 (and an Annual)and was amazing. for those who dont remember, Hulk is completely mindless and so Dr. Strange reluctantly banishes him to the 'Crossroads'.. a place where the Hulk can enter many dimensions and worlds, without returning to Earth. The Hulk gets his ass handed to him on a *regular* basis, and is even made a slave at some point. So, nothing against Planet Hulk, but after reading this article, it has been done, albiet in a different form, and i think the crossroads saga should become a definitive arc before planet hulk does.

RocketBoy
11-15-2005, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by SuperBat77
Remember how big Batman's 12 issue Hush arc was?
Though, if anything, that was a Jim Lee event and not a Batman event.

Shola Akinnuso
11-15-2005, 11:38 PM
Always complaining! Marvel introduces a fresh story for The Hulk, fresh direction, kick ass art team, proven writer, new alien races to expand the Marvel Universe again, and a genuine Sci-Fi story that *isn't* in an alternate reality...

...and fans are STILL complaining! I *LOVE* fans!

As a reader that dropped X-Men in the early nineties, stopped reading Avengers in the 80's, and gave up on Spider-Man after they killed off Ben Riley....

Quesada and company has been making HUGE strides toward making the universe interesting again for longtime readers w/o playing the easy nostalgia button.

Can we PLEASE just enjoy the books, applaud the effort, and try to lose the 'rabid internet fanboy' rep that we've so rightfully earned?? Damn....

--Shola

Ray Dillon
11-15-2005, 11:43 PM
Great artwork. Looks like it'll be a fun book.

Jeremy Williams
11-15-2005, 11:47 PM
Why are people talking about Ladronn? :confused:

Anyway this could be cool. Or this could be weird and depressing such as Mignola`s "Hulk is trapped into countless dimensions where he`s weak and constently beat up". And that would defeat the purpose of bringing back Hulk Smash.

I`m disapointed about Greg Pak doing this because he is overrated. Warlock was solid but the rest was average. I guess it`s Marvel shoving their golden boys down our throats: hey they`re great because we call them Ten terrifics!". From where I come from to be good you gotta prove it...

RocketBoy
11-15-2005, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Shola Akinnuso
Always complaining! Marvel introduces a fresh story for The Hulk, fresh direction, kick ass art team, proven writer, new alien races to expand the Marvel Universe again, and a genuine Sci-Fi story that *isn't* in an alternate reality...

...and fans are STILL complaining! I *LOVE* fans!

--Shola
I love people who complain about complainers! Seriously, I can't get enough of them. We need to have people like this show up in every thread here at Newsarama, Oh wait, we do already.

Take it easy chief. Half of this thread so far has been praise for the concept. And thinking about this logically, that praise has no more actual foundation or value than the criticisms you're against. Both negative and positive responses are based only on the press release here, so neither opinion is inherently more valid than the other.

Mick Martin
11-16-2005, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by MistaT73
I also thought that this was going to be a MU event, but am in no way disapointed that it's not.

You might be assuming a bit much. It's not too tough to imagine how this could spill out into the regular MU.

Mick Martin
11-16-2005, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Mercury
nothing against this storyline whatsoever- but it incidentally is extremely similar to a Hulk storyline that took place from the first series #300-#313 (and an Annual)and was amazing. for those who dont remember, Hulk is completely mindless and so Dr. Strange reluctantly banishes him to the 'Crossroads'.. a place where the Hulk can enter many dimensions and worlds, without returning to Earth. The Hulk gets his ass handed to him on a *regular* basis, and is even made a slave at some point. So, nothing against Planet Hulk, but after reading this article, it has been done, albiet in a different form, and i think the crossroads saga should become a definitive arc before planet hulk does.

First of all, I don't think there's any "Definitive Arc Committee," stating what is and is not definitive. The fact that you had to describe to everyone - in a Hulk-related thread - the storyline, proves how "definitive" it was. I remember the arc well, and while I'd say it was perhaps the definitive Mantlo arc, with the flashback origin story (which really had nothing to do with the Crossroads) there was nothing about it that I'd say was "definitive."

Now, in spite of the half-dozen or so posters who have mentioned that this story is just the Crossroads re-done, I don't really think you know what you're talking about. There are two similarities between the Crossroads arc and this one, based on what we've seen so far.

A) The Hulk isn't on Earth

B) He fights creatures who are nearly as powerful, as powerful, or perhaps more powerful than he is.

As for A, well, space-hopping stories aren't particularly rare in superhero history, are they?

As for B, shouldn't this ALWAYS be the case in an superhero action-adventure comics, otherwise where's the suspense?

There were no gladiator battles in Crossroads, no chances for the Hulk to become a tyrant (or retain any kind of power really), he's only on one planet rather than a few dozen, and judging by the preview pics, he won't just be getting his butt kicked for over a year. And no offense to Crossroads fans, but while Pak seems to be indicating that a lot of the story focuses on the Hulk's character, the Crossroads arc really had nothing to do with the Hulk. He was handled more like Man-Thing was in Gerber's early series: a big, dumb monsters who watches tragedies unfold before him.

Winteriscoming
11-16-2005, 12:35 AM
This story sounds pretty cool.

People keep saying their sad this isn't an "event" or doesn't span the MU. My understanding is that this bleeds into the big event of 2006. If the rumors are true it will be a cosmic story, and with Hulk in space for this story, it sounds like the rumors could be right.

Don Mega
11-16-2005, 02:14 AM
As far as I know there should be some major involement of another big Marvel character. I wonder how this is going to happen when Hulk is on another planet...

Altogether this story sounds like Big-Time-Suck.

Can´t understand what´s so hot about Pak´s writing anyway.

Never been a fan of those boring cosmic stories.

Eiriken
11-16-2005, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by amlah6
Am I the only one who read Pak's Iron Man: HoM mini? That thing was freaking awful.

I read the IM mini, and didn't like it either... But I also read the Phoenix: End Song Mini, and loved that one! So I just have to wait and see about this one...

Mick Martin
11-16-2005, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by Don Mega
As far as I know there should be some major involement of another big Marvel character. I wonder how this is going to happen when Hulk is on another planet...


Yeah, it's too bad superheroes never travel in space in comics. That might help explain it.

tof
11-16-2005, 03:57 AM
Am I the only who thought about an orc from Warcraft/Warhammer when seeing Ladronn's cover?

Jon Snow
11-16-2005, 06:09 AM
You might be assuming a bit much. It's not too tough to imagine how this could spill out into the regular MU.

Yep.
Just consider that the Hulk may become Maestro by the end of this event and the regular MU is gonna get in some very serious trouble...

stvnhthr
11-16-2005, 07:18 AM
Where'd PAD go?

Jon Snow
11-16-2005, 07:27 AM
I believe he was there for a few issues only.
But there's always X-Factor and Wonder-Man...

Joy!

Peter Geddes
11-16-2005, 07:49 AM
Hmmnnn... This might just be the first time i pick up the regular Hulk title in years....

I was actually going to skip it completely, as the idea of a 'Planet Hulk' crossover, doesn't appeal to me (and I found House of M a big letdown, to be honest). But as a self-contained cosmic Hulk brawlfest, it reminds me of the stories of the early 80's (and some of the more...unusual...Defenders epics).

So I'm probably in :)

Johnny Smith
11-16-2005, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Shola Akinnuso
Always complaining! Marvel introduces a fresh story for The Hulk, fresh direction, kick ass art team, proven writer, new alien races to expand the Marvel Universe again, and a genuine Sci-Fi story that *isn't* in an alternate reality...

...and fans are STILL complaining! I *LOVE* fans!


I'm also excited about this new direction for the Hulk. :D

Isn't it awful that a handful of jaded fans have grabbed ahold of their internet bullhorn to denounce this project? :(

dark schneider
11-16-2005, 10:34 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jon Snow
[B]I believe he was there for a few issues only.
But there's always X-Factor and Wonder-Man...

And Fallen Angel, one of the best books anyone should read, this storyline seems good, but I still miss PAD doing it

midgard
11-16-2005, 10:52 AM
Wow the art is real nice.

Punchy
11-16-2005, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Headache John
Why, pray tell, are you repeating it?

because Ladronn kicks major butt.

Stormbreaker
11-16-2005, 11:21 AM
Wow, this sounds to be awesome. I'm glad it wasn't the mega-crossover that I thought it was gonna be. I don't have anything against 'em, but too many consecutively is just exhausting. This sounds like a fun concept, and Pak should be able to make it work. The pencils are also stellar, and I can't wait until this starts!

TheRay
11-16-2005, 12:09 PM
Now that I've read a bit more about the premise and everything... it seems a whole lot cooler than I'd originally thought.

I haven't picked up a Hulk title in years, but I think I'll have to check this out.

NeoSamurai
11-16-2005, 12:44 PM
If this arch promises to have tons of blood, beheadings and buxom, funny-colored chicks in chain-mail, I might have to pick this up.

It really looks like they've put Hulk where he should be. A place where he could kick lots of @$$ and take names for more @$$ whoopin's.

HG_studios
11-16-2005, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Punchy
because Ladronn kicks major butt.
Seconded.

When is Ladronn going to be doing interiors??!! I've been picking up a lot of books just for his cover work...

Vintage
11-16-2005, 03:11 PM
I'm on board.

Xenu Hater
11-16-2005, 03:26 PM
The colors are a bit garish.

Punchy
11-16-2005, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by HG_studios
Seconded.

When is Ladronn going to be doing interiors??!! I've been picking up a lot of books just for his cover work...

Hip Flask!

Supreme Convoy
11-16-2005, 04:46 PM
Yeah... doesn't sound like a huge Marvel event... but Hulk as a gladiator??? The story does sound sweet so far!

HG_studios
11-16-2005, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Punchy
Hip Flask!
Word.

Looks like I'll be picking me up some Hip Flask then!

Kolimar
11-16-2005, 07:15 PM
Sounds like fun. :D

Campbell77
11-17-2005, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by bizarrolike
Who ever said this would not effect the marvel universe? First he has to go through a change then we will see how he affects everyone else.

TOTALLY UNRELATED, but...

In what issue was Genosha destroyed?? I know it was about 4-6 years ago during my comic book hiatus, but I cannot recall and it's driving me nuts...

Da_Black_Goku
11-17-2005, 09:58 AM
Looks god I haven't realy cared about THE HULK since "The Professor" days, but I think this looks promising.

Jon Snow
11-17-2005, 02:49 PM
But is Ladronn involved in this or not?

I only bought the Inhumans miniseries written by Pacheco because of his art...

And he did a really sweet backup for a Thor annual a few years ago.

paulski
11-17-2005, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Campbell77
TOTALLY UNRELATED, but...

In what issue was Genosha destroyed?? I know it was about 4-6 years ago during my comic book hiatus, but I cannot recall and it's driving me nuts...

Either New X-Men #114 or 115.

heibao
11-17-2005, 04:58 PM
Pak's story is reminiscent of Bill Mantlo's sending the Hulk to the "Crossroads" via a spell from Doctor Strange. While there, he ventured into a dimension of red-skinned knights who were stronger than he was and had his arse handed to him.

The gladiator portion is two parts Jarella's world, one part Superman's visit to Warworld.

This is not an attempt to knock the story, as it hasn't been published yet, but I hope Pak remember that part of the appeal to the Hulk is him being "the strongest one there is!" When Wolverine was "the best at what he does", but no longer knew what that meant, fans left the title and sales went with them.

Here's hoping for a good story and not a gimmick.

patman
11-18-2005, 12:35 AM
carlo pagulayan is a great artist!

i saw the 1st 3 pages of the issue last weekend when he (& jeff huet, his inker) was at the anniversary sale of a local comic store. had a great double page spread of hulk vs. the aliens in whatever planet he is in.

i find the jade color of hulk in this preview page a bit off but probably because i remember hulk from a different era. might not also be the final color artwork (but just done for the preview).

definitely picking this up!

p.s., you guys should definitely check out his digital coloring in his site. fantastic "smallville superboy" and emma frost

Templar1305
11-21-2005, 02:48 PM
Let me get this straight.....

Quesada and Bendis being "street guys" (skells more like it) don't "Get" Thor or fantasy so Thor gets wiped out and killed off.....

Then the Hulk goes off to outer space to play gladiator on a planet full of Hulks?

Yeah, right.....

Oh, how I long for the days of Bill Mantlo.....

steve2275
12-18-2005, 12:49 AM
i like what i see

Sector3600
01-20-2006, 03:16 PM
Besides the Jarella's world reference, there was another similar Hulk event that was just as lengthy as heibao
mentioned -

"Crossroads" run from Incredible Hulk (vol. 1) #300 to #314 featured a mindless Hulk exiled by Dr. Strange to the Crossroads in which the Hulk could find his own world to live out his now savage aspect or return to the Crossroads for another try.

So as intrigued as I am about Planet Hulk, I would like to remind people that it's not the first biggest Hulk 'event' just the most currently advertised.

Dirtbagjeff
01-24-2006, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by bruno
More of the new artiist work can be found on his online portfolio:

http://www.carlopagulayan.com/

Bruno

Thanks for the link, i couldnt tell from the preview how the art looked. Sold me on it, defintally looking forward to this.

Dirtbagjeff
01-24-2006, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by bruno
More of the new artiist work can be found on his online portfolio:

http://www.carlopagulayan.com/

Bruno

Thanks for the link, i couldnt tell from the preview how the art looked. Sold me on it, defintally looking forward to this.

Dirtbagjeff
01-24-2006, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by bruno
More of the new artiist work can be found on his online portfolio:

http://www.carlopagulayan.com/

Bruno

Thanks for the link, i couldnt tell from the preview how the art looked. Sold me on it, defintally looking forward to this.