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MattBrady
07-14-2003, 05:54 AM
<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/sangiacomo/Epic2.jpg" width="200" height="304" border="0" hspace="2" align="right"><I>by Mike San Giacomo </I>

<I>This is a weekly look at the process of writing a comic for Marvel’s new Epic line, <b>Phantom Jack</b>, which was to be called <b>Nowhere Man</b> until THE MAN made me change the name.

My story and script about Jack Baxter, a newspaper reporter who can turn invisible, was greenlighted by the powers that be at Marvel.</I>

Last week, I found myself on the receiving end of a press conference where Marvel ending Internet rumor and announced details of the Epic Comics project. John Jackson Miller and I were the first two critics whose scripts were accepted.

After the press conference I returned to the computer to rewrite the first issue, trying to incorporate conflicting instructions from various folks at Marvel about when the reader should learn of Jack’s powers. Armed with that, and some suggestions that Jack needs a little deeper motivation, I was getting ready for another rewrite.

Okay, I thought as I stared at the computer screen, the trick here is to introduce Jack Baxter’s abilities somewhere between the end and the middle. Editor X thinks he should show off his powers right from the start while editor Y thinks it should be a mystery until the end of the book.

The answer was to do it about 3/4 of the way through the story, setting up a big scene at that point. But then it needed a big ending since we moved the revelation seen forward.

Then it came to me, the ending could be a follow-up to the new hero revealed scene.

Associate Editor Stephanie Moore’s co-worker, Theresa Focarile, had the idea that Jack lacked motivation to use his powers for good. Peter Parker, Matt Murdock, Bruce Wayne all had that “avenge the father-figure” thing going, but Jack was...just a guy. He was not the slacker that “Major Bummer” had been over at DC (loved that series), but he was no boy scout either. The script establishes that Jack uses his invisibility to comes up with some pretty impressive stories and has exposed corruption.

But what makes him turn the corner and dirty his hands by actually using his powers to rescue someone? Why does he take the chance of injuring himself? I thought about this and realized that a scene was needed in which fatherless Jack needs some fatherly advice. His buddy Wolf Bigelow (that I confess has become my favorite character in the book) was too close to do it. His editor was too remote. I wrote a scene with an overbearingly attentive Aunt May type neighbor, based on a woman from my old neighborhood, but that didn’t work.

Then I decided to flip the order. Jack would find himself in a position to be a hero, agonize over it for five seconds, and then jump in. The explanation of why he did it could come later as he talks to the person he just saved. The scene is much smoother and cooler than it sounds described here. With that scene done, the rest of the script fell right into place. I turned it in and waited to hear if I nailed it.

<b>The Hardest Thing</b>

At this point I thought I would talk about one of the toughest part of putting a script together: determining panels and pages.

Part of the process is that the writer must think in terms of pages. How many scenes (panels) can fit on a page? When should we use a whole page or half-page for a scene? What do we do when the book is too long or too short, which it always is?

I’d like to leave such details to the artists, who are far more skilled at these decisions, but he artist needs guidance. You can’t just write a long script and expect him to break it down into pages, that’s just not fair. Inevitably, the writer will come down to pretending to be an artist. I took sheets of paper and thumbnailed the action, page by page, to see how much would comfortably fit.

To call myself the world’s worst artist is an exaggeration, I’m sure there’s an armless, blind guy in India or China who’s worse than me, but I’m up there. I found it was easier to make the thumbnails using stick figures if I promised myself that I would trash them immediately afterwards, which I did. The point of this is if I can thumbnail, anyone with a thumb and forefinger or prehensile tail can do it. It’s really the only way to figure out how many scenes can go on a page. You’ll end up with a panel-by-panel breakdown of the script, which anyone can follow.

<b>Get it Out of Your Head</b>

Another point I wanted to share is one I heard from Neil Gaiman himself.

The Great One said he was often asked how to break into the comic writing business. He said his best advice was that “you actually have to write something.” His point is that many people walk around with what they believe is the greatest story of the world in their heads. That may or may not be true, but until they actually take the story out of their heads and put in on paper, no one will know.

I see a lot of folks on the message boards talking about this amazing story they have, but they fear submitting it to Epic because it might be stolen.

Whatever.

So don’t submit it, but at least write it.

Don’t be that boring guy at the comic shop who says “Yeah, I had that idea 10 years ago.” Be the guy who can say, “I had that idea 10 years ago and it was rejected by every comic company in the world and that’s why I am the hopeless alcoholic you see before you.”

At least try.

NEXT WEEK: Lots of phone calls.

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<I>Mike Sangiacomo, a freelance writer for Newsarama and other sources, was invited to share his experiences with pitching to Epic by Newsarama's editor, Matt Brady, in the interest of keeping readers well informed. Brady advises Newsarama readers that he is aware of the inherent conflict of interest presented by journalists working for a publisher they cover. Sangiacomo's regular column Journey Into Comics has and will continue to be found in the Opinion/Editorial section of Newsarama. Brady has not, nor does he plan to pitch to Epic himself. </I>

Nobody
07-14-2003, 09:02 AM
By now, all of the readers of the column know Jack's secret, so what does it matter now when his powers are revealed? The suprise element is essentially gone.

I compare it to the Fantastic Four. My friend let me borrow his copies of "Unthinkable" after he had pretty much described the entire story to me. After reading it, I was unimpressed. I was however impressed with the elements he hadn't told me about.

Here's hopin' you got some suprises up your sleeve for your readers, rather than blowin' your wad on this column.

MadPiscus
07-14-2003, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by Nobody
By now, all of the readers of the column know Jack's secret, so what does it matter now when his powers are revealed? The suprise element is essentially gone.

I compare it to the Fantastic Four. My friend let me borrow his copies of "Unthinkable" after he had pretty much described the entire story to me. After reading it, I was unimpressed. I was however impressed with the elements he hadn't told me about.

Here's hopin' you got some suprises up your sleeve for your readers, rather than blowin' your wad on this column.

I don't think as many people read these columns as you might think... of all my comic-book lovin' friends only myself and one other have ever heard of Newsarama, and even over at the newsgroups only so many people (as in, "not nearly all") seem to know about it.

Now, if you are implying that those who read his column (and thus have an interest in his book as "fans" or those with a sneak peek) are most likely to be is audience... well I think they are aiming a little higher in number, but that may be the case. If so, your point does apply.

Nobody
07-14-2003, 11:18 AM
I'm mostly just talking about people that read this column here at Newsarama. To be honest, I can't see how anyone outside of here would even feign interest in picking this book up.

Seriously, with the negative backlash here about Evil Marvel Epic Bad (note saracasm) and they're just using Mike for the free publicity, I can't see how this title will do well. The subject matter is just... blah. And now we know all the tricks too.

But, hey, if the non internet comic readin' population supports it, more power to 'em.

But yeah, I know the comic internet community is not as big as some like to make it out to be.

Jun Kim
07-14-2003, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Nobody
I'm mostly just talking about people that read this column here at Newsarama. To be honest, I can't see how anyone outside of here would even feign interest in picking this book up.

Seriously, with the negative backlash here about Evil Marvel Epic Bad (note saracasm) and they're just using Mike for the free publicity, I can't see how this title will do well. The subject matter is just... blah. And now we know all the tricks too.

But, hey, if the non internet comic readin' population supports it, more power to 'em.

But yeah, I know the comic internet community is not as big as some like to make it out to be.

Hmmmm.... as someone who's actually read at least two versions of his book and having even sketched a page for submission, I do disagree... the story was very interesting and very unlike any other book out there. None of the elements Mike's shared in these columns gave away anything that could really take away from the entertainment value or the "surprises" in the book.

I believe the book will stand on its own merit.

Nobody
07-14-2003, 01:28 PM
I hope for Mike's sake it does stand on it's own merit. But people I know really have no interest in the base concept. Invisible Reporter. It doesn't seem to make for a good comic. It actually seems more like a bad 70s sci-fi tv show.

Unless it's an ironic thing, and he's writing it more as comedy than drama. If it's that, then I might check it out.

mitchell breitweiser
07-14-2003, 01:59 PM
Phantom Jack artist, Mitchell Breitweiser here...

Just wanted to put my two cents in. So its no secret that Jack can turn invisible, should that really matter? Its no secret that Clark Kent will be superman, but we watch smallville anyway.
do yourself a favor and pick up this book when it comes out. The script is a knockout, and I will do my best to make sure the artwork compliments.

Mike...say, once you have fully explored the writing aspect of this article, let me know. Maybe we could talk a little about the experiences of an Epic artist. Im sure there might be a few artist that read your column looking for insight.

Best,

Doug Smith
07-14-2003, 02:07 PM
Myself, I pick up the first issue of almost anything DC and/or Marvel put out, and I'm sure there are plenty of other people who have similar sampling habits. I'm intrigued enough by the concept to give it a shot. A hero who doesn't really want to be a hero? Sure, we've seen it before, but it's still a good base concept, and really, it's the STORY that will make this book succeed or fail, not the powers of the main character.

I'm hoping Mike S. has some hook or surprise up his sleeve that will grab us, the same way Kurt Busiek did with "Thunderbolts" # 1 several years back...

"Yeah, another team of superheroes, ho-hum, yawn, wake me when they WHAT THE HELL, THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE MASTERS OF EVIL???" :eek: :D

nova64
07-14-2003, 02:43 PM
Great article, Mike! Best one yet, imo.

Doug
Nova Prime Page
www.novaprimepage.com

Prozac Man
07-14-2003, 02:54 PM
I think this book will be good. It also seems like some thing you could easily turn into a good movie or TV series. I personally like the reality TV like drama of this article series in and of it self. The message board aspect keeps the party rolling till the next instalment. Imagine if there were interactive talk backs after each episode of the Real World or the Osbornes and the cast actually responded on a regular basis.

barry buchanan
07-14-2003, 03:55 PM
M. S. wrote: The point of this is if I can thumbnail, anyone with a thumb and forefinger or prehensile tail can do it. It’s really the only way to figure out how many scenes can go on a page. You’ll end up with a panel-by-panel breakdown of the script, which anyone can follow.


This is what any comic writer should do. Both Alan Moore and B.M. Bendis do it, and I do it too. It's about the only way to make sure everything is going to fit.

It's good to do for pacing reasons and to see if/how what you wrote will work once in drawn form. Even if it is a badly drawn version. I usually send this, along with my script, to my artist mainly as something to go by, but he's free to make changes or ignore it out right.

Mike's other advice about people just writing to write is wise advice indeed.

"If you want to change the world shut your mouth and start this minute!" the band Cracker.

hork
07-14-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by MattBrady
I see a lot of folks on the message boards talking about this amazing story they have, but they fear submitting it to Epic because it might be stolen.


I always thought that was silly, too. And it's not just comic fans, but Hollywood screenwriters who have these paranoid delusions that everyone is stealing scripts from everyone else. Even if it were true, so what? Your story is doing a lot less good staying in your head than it would be if it were stolen. And, what, you only have one good story idea? Write another one! There must be a lot more where that came from. And anyway, it's a bit arrogant to presume that your story is so great that people would covet it so much they would go so far as to claim it as their own.

Kubiak
07-14-2003, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by mitchell breitweiser

Mike...say, once you have fully explored the writing aspect of this article, let me know. Maybe we could talk a little about the experiences of an Epic artist. Im sure there might be a few artist that read your column looking for insight.

Best,

I for one would be very interested in that! I'm an "aspiring artist" or whatever, so it'd be cool to hear how that works. I'm working on self-published type stuff here and there (and trying to do more all the time). I'm not sure I'll ever be pro-quality, but it'd be cool to hear about someone making it, so to speak.

Plus, I think some people might be taking the concept of the title a little lightly. There's just a ton of potential in someone being able to turn invisible, especially if it's taken seriously (or even semi-seriously). So far, it sounds like it should be fun.

mitchell breitweiser
07-14-2003, 10:12 PM
I for one would be very interested in that! I'm an "aspiring artist" or whatever, so it'd be cool to hear how that works. I'm working on self-published type stuff here and there (and trying to do more all the time). I'm not sure I'll ever be pro-quality, but it'd be cool to hear about someone making it, so to speak.


Well you are in luck. Mike actually spoke to me today about filling in for his column at some point. We will have to work out the how's and when's later, but It is definately a possibility.

The Big Joe
07-15-2003, 02:45 AM
Thank you again Mr. San Giacomo. Another fine article.

I used to give a shit about whether or not this whole thing reeked of Marvel driven publicity or if you were qualified to write this book for them, but now, I couldn't give two flying ferrets.

You are handling yourself like a writer and it shows. I am going to no longer give into the fanboy mentality and attack something you've done as though I have the right to do so. What you do, journalism, and what you like to do, write comic books, are inherently of interest to others, but we have no right to judge you as though we are standing on the shoulders of giants. You are providing us with a service and it's a fine good one.

I am hoping to be published by Marvel through Epic and what you have said is invaluable to me. Although I have been fortunate enough to have already recieved much of the advice you have given, it has done me good to hear it again. Thank you.