View Full Version : Give it up for Fell!!!
perk9600
10-05-2005, 10:36 PM
Okay folks I was at the shop today and I saw the first two issues of Fell by Warren Ellis and Ben Templesmith. Those 2 names were enough to get me to purchase. All I can say is WOW!
For more read this news item.
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=36988
I have to say nice job Warren and Ben! This is a very good idea and a great book. I haven't been this excited about a new book in a looong time.
Blind Assassin
10-05-2005, 10:40 PM
a complete story for only 1.99 an issue isn't too bad either.
Be interested to see how this does on the charts...after all, it is Ellis and Templesmith, and its under 2 bucks.
that 'nun' creeped me out in issue 2. Glad (scared) to find we are going to see more of her in issue 3.
:D
perk9600
10-05-2005, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Blind Assassin
a complete story for only 1.99 an issue isn't too bad either.
Be interested to see how this does on the charts...after all, it is Ellis and Templesmith, and its under 2 bucks.
that 'nun' creeped me out in issue 2. Glad (scared) to find we are going to see more of her in issue 3.
:D
I think she showed up in issue 1 as well. She is freaky!
And this book should sell based on the names alone.
A complete story for 2 bucks?
Plus I love the simple layout. 9 panels per page no spreads. Who'd have thunk it would work so well?
I also loved the extra in the back of issue #2 showing the script and then you could flip back and see the actual product. It was really cool to see it take shape like that.
I wa blown away. And you know me I read mostly Rucka books and unless he is writing I rarely get excited about something. But this is an amazing book!
CoffinDancer
10-05-2005, 11:32 PM
Ellis said the first issue sold about 30,000 copies. I hope we see more 16 page/$2 comics.
CoffinDancer
10-05-2005, 11:36 PM
http://the-engine.net/forum/index.php?webtag=ENGINE
"FELL numbers again. Something weird seems to be happening.
So we sold something approaching 30K copies of FELL 1, after initial orders around 25K, yes?
A week before the initial ordering round on FELL 2 came, we had orders of 16K. I put the word out, and initials came out around 17K. We've printed 20K.
Last night, Eric Stephenson emailed to tell me of an anomaly in the Diamond system. FELL 2 doesn't come out until tomorrow in America, but the system is registering 800 copies on back order. Back order means that the book has sold out its printrun and 800 further copies have been ordered that we don't have.
Orders so far on 3 are approaching 17K. And the final numbers aren't in yet.
In the near term, this means that we have to look at an immediate second printing of a book that hasn't come out yet. Which is a weird situation to be in.
In the longer term, I just have to hope that retailers are noticing FELL flying out the door and are adjusting accordingly. Otherwise we could be facing this every month.
#2s are sticky, because a lot of retailers aren't able to respond to the sales of #1 and, in fact, have to make "their best guess a month before #1 is released. The retailers on this list got a heads-up to adjust their orders in the final week of the pre-order window, which is why we saw the numbers jump by a thousand. But, obviously, I don't reach everyone.
Since I now have to think about a possible 5000-copy reprint of a book that hasn't been published yet...
I mean, this isn't a Marvel thing, where they print to order. 20% of the FELL 2 printrun is "overprint", or copies printed above and beyond the number of copies ordered. This isn't one of these fake sell-outs.
Comics never get any bloody easier, I tell you...
-- W"
Ben Templesmith
10-06-2005, 08:22 AM
Cheers fellas.
It's nice that most people don't even notice it's only 16 pages, since what pages there actually are are so damn dense and take more time to get through than double page splashes eh?
It's a damn honour to be working with the Big W too. I'm still shocked.
Blind Assassin
10-06-2005, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
Cheers fellas.
It's nice that most people don't even notice it's only 16 pages, since what pages there actually are are so damn dense and take more time to get through than double page splashes eh?
It's a damn honour to be working with the Big W too. I'm still shocked.
whenever I see the words 'big W', I think of the film It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world.
(only some of you will know what I mean....)
perk9600
10-06-2005, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
Cheers fellas.
It's nice that most people don't even notice it's only 16 pages, since what pages there actually are are so damn dense and take more time to get through than double page splashes eh?
It's a damn honour to be working with the Big W too. I'm still shocked.
I know I didn't notice until I read the back and Warren mentioned it.
The book is really good Ben. I mean really good!
render man
10-06-2005, 12:37 PM
Yeah, I'm loving this book. Totally creepy and full of despair, with some nice twists! Go Warren Ellis and Ben Templesmith!
Fell, Desolation Jones, and The Walking Dead are my 3 favorite books right now.
2 out of 3 for Warren Ellis not bad.
plus, Templesmith's art is such a great match for the mood of these stories.
*crossing my fingers that this series goes on for years*
Ben Templesmith
10-06-2005, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by buji
*crossing my fingers that this series goes on for years*
Same here, believe me. Glad you're enjoying it. :)
Punchy
10-06-2005, 01:31 PM
Love this book, Nixon Nun is scary, looking forward to reading #3 later.
CountD
10-06-2005, 03:39 PM
OK, I'll be the one voice of dissention.
I leafed through and skimmed issue #1 based on recommendations here there everywhere.
The art is a little too dark and scratchy for my liking and I really wasn't digging the flavor of the little stories.
maybe if I read more reviews I'll get into it later..but in short..it didn't bowl me over.
No personal offense, creators. Like I said, I've been hearing good things....
Blind Assassin
10-06-2005, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by CountD
OK, I'll be the one voice of dissention.
I leafed through and skimmed issue #1 based on recommendations here there everywhere.
The art is a little too dark and scratchy for my liking and I really wasn't digging the flavor of the little stories.
maybe if I read more reviews I'll get into it later..but in short..it didn't bowl me over.
No personal offense, creators. Like I said, I've been hearing good things....
Nothing wrong with a dissenting opinion. If we all liked the same stuff, it would get boring very quickly.
At least you tried it, and that's more than I will say for a lot of people (not just this book, specifically, but any book, in general)
There is nothing wrong in saying "hey, I tried it, and it wasn't for me."
Most people only latch on to the 'I wasn't digging it' part, but I always applaud the 'I tried it' part of the sentence.
As for Templesmith's art. It is right up my alley, although I can understand why he isn't for everyone.
Originally posted by Blind Assassin
As for Templesmith's art. It is right up my alley, although I can understand why he isn't for everyone.
did you have a chance to catch his recent story in Shadowplay #1 (Demon Father John's Pinwheel Blues)? wow. once again: great images AND a great start of an intruiging story. i think his style is really nice for both horror and noir-ish suspense/mystery. (though i laughed at the comment in the back of Fell #1 when he asked Ellis about the book's content, hoping it didn't have any vampires)
*the Christine Z / Ashley Wood story in Shadowplay also seems to have a lot of potential (story & art). i'd highly recommend picking that title up. a lot of cool books coming from IDW these days
perk9600
10-06-2005, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Blind Assassin
Nothing wrong with a dissenting opinion. If we all liked the same stuff, it would get boring very quickly.
At least you tried it, and that's more than I will say for a lot of people (not just this book, specifically, but any book, in general)
There is nothing wrong in saying "hey, I tried it, and it wasn't for me."
Most people only latch on to the 'I wasn't digging it' part, but I always applaud the 'I tried it' part of the sentence.
As for Templesmith's art. It is right up my alley, although I can understand why he isn't for everyone.
I agree about Templesmith. Personally I love him, but I can't kill anyone for not liking his style. After all I don't like Jim Lee. (ducks for cover)
Ben Templesmith
10-06-2005, 05:14 PM
Hey, not even the wife likes my stuff most of the time, so I'm well used to not being everyone's cup of tea.
Big thanks to everyone who tried Fell and didn't like it anyways. That was sort of the point, in a way. If it's just $2, then hopfully more people can try new things.
man_nanny
10-06-2005, 05:23 PM
Fell #2 was great. Ben Templeton's art rocks, IMO. I'm really liking the idea of the "feral" city. Cool stuff, nice extras. Probably my favorite book out this week.
Prime
10-06-2005, 08:59 PM
The artwork is slightly more cartoony then I imagined, but good. Great artwork, and good story so far in my opinion.
NewRisingSun
10-06-2005, 10:12 PM
Damn, I missed #2. :mad: :mad: :mad:
perk9600
10-06-2005, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by NewRisingSun
Damn, I missed #2. :mad: :mad: :mad:
Find it! #2 was better than #1 IMO.
Especially Page 7!
Shoeface
10-07-2005, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
Find it! #2 was better than #1 IMO.
Especially Page 7!
Really? Personally I thought that #2 was good, probably the best comic I got this week, but #1 was just mindblowingly awsome. More seemed to happen in #1, and it was just so dense and constantly interesting it seemed so much longer than 16 pages and enjoyable for the whole thing. #2 just seemed to be over a little faster than the previous issue and I didn't think it was quite as strong. Stonger art in this issue though, although I really don't envy Templesmith having to draw smoke babies. I do envy the fact he gets to draw comics at all though...
David Bird
10-07-2005, 08:36 PM
Fell is definitely the Must Read comic!
Ben, you and Ellis are doing a fantastic job, and I hope you get your wish re: vampires (though you are really good at it).
And BA, I got the Big W reference. Funny movie.
Blind Assassin
10-07-2005, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by David Bird
And BA, I got the Big W reference. Funny movie.
:D
Randy A
10-08-2005, 12:05 AM
I (odviously) enjoy this book alot. Im glad to see so many tried it and liked it. Issue #1, whiskey enema, need any more be said? ;)
bob_at_york
10-08-2005, 12:50 AM
I am not buying this book because I am not a fan of Templeton's art.
Randy A
10-08-2005, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by bob_at_york
I am not buying this book because I am not a fan of Templeton's art.
Have you actually checked it out? While im not a huge fan of the art, i almost didn't pick it up based on past art work i had seen, but its not so bad as past stuff, and it fits the book really well.
bob_at_york
10-08-2005, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by hal0
Have you actually checked it out? While im not a huge fan of the art, i almost didn't pick it up based on past art work i had seen, but its not so bad as past stuff, and it fits the book really well.
No I haven't. But I was looking for a post like yourself saying you don't like the art either but yet you love the book.
mookie blaylock
10-08-2005, 01:33 AM
An incredible book.
I bought a butt load of copies and gave them to friends to switch them onto comics.
It's also the first book that inspired me to write into the creative team and thank them.
David Bird
10-08-2005, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by mookie blaylock
An incredible book.
I bought a butt load of copies and gave them to friends to switch them onto comics.
It's also the first book that inspired me to write into the creative team and thank them.
I e-mailed them too. I haven't done that since I was a kid (I'm talking 30 years ago).
Terram
10-08-2005, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by bob_at_york
I am not buying this book because I am not a fan of Templeton's art. That, and there's a serious glut of crime investigation stories out there as is.
thefellowship12
10-08-2005, 11:45 AM
Fell was the best comic out this week easily, Templesmith's art isn't usually my kinda thing but it's a more detailed than usual and creates a brilliant hellish atmosphere which the series needs. Ellis's writing is also very good, he writes the bizarre characters very well and they are funny as hell.
I've also been giving out issues of FELL out hoping that they'll pick up later issues, they've enjoyed it alot.
David Bird
10-08-2005, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Terram
That, and there's a serious glut of crime investigation stories out there as is.
There are far more superhero comics out there, than mysteries.
perk9600
10-10-2005, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by David Bird
I e-mailed them too. I haven't done that since I was a kid (I'm talking 30 years ago).
Ironically I've never emailed anyone either, but I sent one to Warren's google account right after finishing #1.
David Bird
10-10-2005, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by perk9600
Ironically I've never emailed anyone either, but I sent one to Warren's google account right after finishing #1.
Reducing us all to gushing fanboys. Thats got to be a good sign.:D
PS - BA, I actually went out and bought the DVD. Now I just need to find 3 hours.
Blind Assassin
10-10-2005, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Terram
That, and there's a serious glut of crime investigation stories out there as is.
you are right, there is.
But I am generally curious bout your statement so I must ask--
How many of those 'crime investigation stories out there' do you read?
Can you not try another one?
It's a dollar cheaper than most of the other books out there, and despite being half the length, you really don't notice.
How many super-hero books do you read? Would you not try a new super-hero book because of the 'serious glut' of super-hero books out there?
not being an ass, I am generally curious....
thingone
10-10-2005, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by hal0
... but its not so bad as past stuff ...
I wouldn't refer to Templesmith's past art as "bad." Rather, I'd say it is "extremely good." Or, "Original." Or, "Some of the best artwork in comics."
You may not appreciate his style, but to call it bad is absurd.
i'm thinking that hal0's "not so bad as..." comment, in context, wasn't so much saying him saying that it was objectively "bad" - just that he didn't like it in the past.
just my impression. hal0 can speak up though if i'm misrepresenting him here.
thingone
10-10-2005, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by buji
i'm thinking that hal0's "not so bad as..." comment, in context, wasn't so much saying him saying that it was objectively "bad" - just that he didn't like it in the past.
Hal0 has a grasp of the English language. If he means he didn't like it, he's quite capable of writing that.
SD Johnny
10-10-2005, 04:44 PM
I bought this on a whim, but love the book. I tend to skew toward the more photo-realistic kind of art but I have to say that Ben Templesmith's style coupled with the great writing has grown on me. Keep up the good work!
Ed: TEMPLESMITH, sorry Ben. Too much sports and Gary Templeton talk here in San Diego!
Ben Templesmith
10-10-2005, 06:14 PM
That templeton guys art...I don't know...don't think I like it that much. ;)
Thanks for all the compliments though, and honestly, the crits are always good too.
I just put up a bunch of Fell art progression images with a few rambly explanations to them over at my livejournal, just in case any of the artist types are interested.
Fell art stuff. (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ben_templesmith/)
Randy A
10-10-2005, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by thingone
Hal0 has a grasp of the English language. If he means he didn't like it, he's quite capable of writing that.
badly worded. I'm not a fan of his art, but i have seen alot worse.
Shoeface
10-14-2005, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
That templeton guys art...I don't know...don't think I like it that much. ;)
Thanks for all the compliments though, and honestly, the crits are always good too.
I just put up a bunch of Fell art progression images with a few rambly explanations to them over at my livejournal, just in case any of the artist types are interested.
Fell art stuff. (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ben_templesmith/)
Those progression images were actually pretty useful, and I thought they were an interesting insight into the creative process. Thanks :).
kingofcities
10-14-2005, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
That templeton guys art...I don't know...don't think I like it that much. ;)
Thanks for all the compliments though, and honestly, the crits are always good too.
I just put up a bunch of Fell art progression images with a few rambly explanations to them over at my livejournal, just in case any of the artist types are interested.
Fell art stuff. (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ben_templesmith/)
Just wanted to say Fell was fantastic. REALLY looking forward to Hatter M as well. :)
kingofcities
10-14-2005, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Shoeface
Those progression images were actually pretty useful, and I thought they were an interesting insight into the creative process. Thanks :).
I agree. I own one of Ben's pages from 30 Days Of Night #3. It's crazy to see the original and then see what it becomes. Great stuff!
perk9600
10-14-2005, 03:15 PM
Fell = Top 100!
Hopefully it is top 75 next month!
Congrats to Ben and Warren!
Shoeface
10-18-2005, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
Fell = Top 100!
Hopefully it is top 75 next month!
Congrats to Ben and Warren!
Huzzahs! It deserves to be in the top 100 at the very least, so this news is most welcome.
Ben Templesmith
10-19-2005, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by perk9600
Fell = Top 100!
Hopefully it is top 75 next month!
Congrats to Ben and Warren!
Cheers perk, would be nice but it won't happen. #2's always get less than the #1's, and anyway, retailers wouldn't have known if Fell was crap or not when they were initially ordering #2. I have no idea how #3 is doing though but I'm curious. ;) So long as it doesn't slide headlong into oblivion toooo soon I'm a happy and incredibly lucky chappy. :)
David Bird
10-19-2005, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
Cheers perk, would be nice but it won't happen. #2's always get less than the #1's, and anyway, retailers wouldn't have known if Fell was crap or not when they were initially ordering #2. I have no idea how #3 is doing though but I'm curious. ;) So long as it doesn't slide headlong into oblivion toooo soon I'm a happy and incredibly lucky chappy. :)
FYI: Ben.
Check out the intro to the first Transmetropolitan trade. I forget who wrote it, but they recall talking to Ellis about the first issue of the comic and Ellis figured it wasn't going to succeed. The first issue hadn't done well, and "#2's always get less than the #1's." He was wrong. They don't always do worse. Sometimes they turn around altogether.
perk9600
10-19-2005, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
Cheers perk, would be nice but it won't happen. #2's always get less than the #1's, and anyway, retailers wouldn't have known if Fell was crap or not when they were initially ordering #2. I have no idea how #3 is doing though but I'm curious. ;) So long as it doesn't slide headlong into oblivion toooo soon I'm a happy and incredibly lucky chappy. :)
Thank you for the thank you ( :D ) but you guys derserve the praise.
Good point about #2's dropping Ben.
Our own resident Comic Shop Guy Blind Assassin says they can't keep the book in stock. Also the shop I go to at lunch sold out very quickly on #2. I imagine retailers will be increasing their orders for #3, 4 etc.
As long as you and Warren keep the quality up I think the sales will continue to climb. I am not naive enough to believe you'll sell 100,000 copies or something, but for $1.99 there are few better deals.
Originally posted by perk9600
...but for $1.99 there are few better deals.
preach it, my friend
& even if it was a tad higher, the art & stories have been first-class.
perk9600
10-19-2005, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by buji
preach it, my friend
& even if it was a tad higher, the art & stories have been first-class.
Imagine if it was $1.50!
kingofcities
10-19-2005, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by perk9600
Imagine if it was $1.50!
It's amazing how much of a difference that extra dollar less on the price makes. I know more than a few people who were willing to try the book out, without knowing anything about it, just because of the creators involved and the low price making it an affordable book to try out.
I added FELL to my pull list months ago, and when the first issue showed up, the guy who runs my store looked at the price and thought it was a misprint. I explained the whole concept behind the book as Warren had been detailing it in his Bad Signal. The guy at my shop was impressed. I know he added at least another dozen copies to his total pull, and so far both one and two have been sold out at my store.
Price makes all the difference. Give people a good bargain on quality entertainment and they will be all over it.
kingofcities
10-19-2005, 11:52 AM
Whoa........wacky internet problems.
kingofcities
10-19-2005, 11:52 AM
Whoa........wacky internet problems.
AGAIN. :o
perk9600
10-19-2005, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by kingofcities
It's amazing how much of a difference that extra dollar less on the price makes. I know more than a few people who were willing to try the book out, without knowing anything about it, just because of the creators involved and the low price making it an affordable book to try out.
I added FELL to my pull list months ago, and when the first issue showed up, the guy who runs my store looked at the price and thought it was a misprint. I explained the whole concept behind the book as Warren had been detailing it in his Bad Signal. The guy at my shop was impressed. I know he added at least another dozen copies to his total pull, and so far both one and two have been sold out at my store.
Price makes all the difference. Give people a good bargain on quality entertainment and they will be all over it.
Well honestly I wasn't up on it like that.
If you want the gods honest truth it was more like this:
I had never bought a book by Ben before although I heard of him when that whole Ghost Rider thing happened a year or so ago and thought he was very talented.
I was familar with Warren knew he was good, but didn't go out of my way to buy his stuff. This isn't a slight to him its just that my comic budget is tight.
I was given a free copy of Freshmen #1 at Wizard World Boston by the Top Cow EIC.
Freshmen had an add for Fell #1 and it looked cool. I saw the names of the creators and said "Wow, good team". So I was at the comic shop a week later and saw #1. I grabbed it and when i got to the register I thought the price was wrong. 2 bucks? No way.
I've been hooked ever since.
kingofcities
10-19-2005, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by perk9600
Well honestly I wasn't up on it like that.
If you want the gods honest truth it was more like this:
I had never bought a book by Ben before although I heard of him when that whole Ghost Rider thing happened a year or so ago and thought he was very talented.
I was familar with Warren knew he was good, but didn't go out of my way to buy his stuff. This isn't a slight to him its just that my comic budget is tight.
I was given a free copy of Freshmen #1 at Wizard World Boston by the Top Cow EIC.
Freshmen had an add for Fell #1 and it looked cool. I saw the names of the creators and said "Wow, good team". So I was at the comic shop a week later and saw #1. I grabbed it and when i got to the register I thought the price was wrong. 2 bucks? No way.
I've been hooked ever since.
Whatever gets a book in your hands is a good thing, right? ;)
David Bird
10-19-2005, 12:10 PM
Interesting.
In my case, Fell slipped under my radar altogether. I first heard of it in a PBR review and thought I'd pick up issue #1. I then put it on my pull list.
kingofcities
10-19-2005, 12:17 PM
If you folks are Warren Ellis fans and you aren't already on his Bad Signal, you REALLY need to sign up (http://www.flirble.org/mailman/listinfo/badsignal) . Warren sends out around a dozen or so e-mails a week talking about whatever is on his brain, but most especially his upcoming projects. You get to hear about things on the pre-production level, and FELL was one of those books that just sounded great from the get go. Plus, you get to hear his mad little rants, complete with curse words and everything. :D
perk9600
10-19-2005, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by kingofcities
Whatever gets a book in your hands is a good thing, right? ;)
Absolutely!
Neuromancer
10-19-2005, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
Well honestly I wasn't up on it like that.
If you want the gods honest truth it was more like this:
I had never bought a book by Ben before although I heard of him when that whole Ghost Rider thing happened a year or so ago and thought he was very talented.
I was familar with Warren knew he was good, but didn't go out of my way to buy his stuff. This isn't a slight to him its just that my comic budget is tight.
I was given a free copy of Freshmen #1 at Wizard World Boston by the Top Cow EIC.
Freshmen had an add for Fell #1 and it looked cool. I saw the names of the creators and said "Wow, good team". So I was at the comic shop a week later and saw #1. I grabbed it and when i got to the register I thought the price was wrong. 2 bucks? No way.
I've been hooked ever since.
I just read #1 and #2 last night...Fell has been on my backburner for a while, much like Jack Cross, which I want to get to today or tonight. Unlike Perk, I am a Warren Ellis fan, and I have been since Thor: Worldengine. In fact, not only do I laud Planetary and the (now) eerily-familiar Scars as perhaps two of the best overall comics titles I've ever read, Warren's work is pretty much the only work I'll ever pick up sight unseen by a creator. (Partner-in-crime John Cassaday is another, and so is Andi Watson; funny though how I really am not interested in Warren's work on Iron Man or JLA Classified.) Further, Ben's work on 30 Days and Singularity 7, while it isn't my at-first-glance favorite type of artwork, certainly is far from the worst I've ever seen, and there's no disputing that he's a master designer. So I went forward and got the title. All I can say is, I am simply SO impressed with Warren and Ben's work.
Think about it: a non-superhero mystery genre that blends in intrigue and even a touch of Warren's interest in esoteric magic...that feels neither rushed nor overlong...in a simple panel layout with evocative, almost avant-garde artwork...that conveys emotion and a sense of backstory...and manages to solve an interesting mystery to boot...all in the space of 16 pages for around $2? This is precisely the smack in the face this sometimes-moribund market of ours needs. I for one can't be happier about even the initial orders for Fell, and even if it drops off a tad for #2-3, I've a feeling, like Invincible, this is one where the orders and sales will only keep going up.
And I'll be happy to say I was in on it from the start, even if I started reading it late! ;)
perk9600
10-19-2005, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Neuromancer
Unlike Perk, I am a Warren Ellis fan, and I have been since Thor: Worldengine.
Just to set the record straight it isn't that I'm not an Ellis fan.
I only buy 12 books a month so I have to pick and choose what I buy.
I have read some of Warren's work in the past I just don't seek it out like I would for say a Rucka title.
But if the right project comes along with Warren Ellis attached to it I'll buy. Case in point being Fell.
Randy A
10-19-2005, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by kingofcities
If you folks are Warren Ellis fans and you aren't already on his Bad Signal, you REALLY need to sign up (http://www.flirble.org/mailman/listinfo/badsignal) . Warren sends out around a dozen or so e-mails a week talking about whatever is on his brain, but most especially his upcoming projects. You get to hear about things on the pre-production level, and FELL was one of those books that just sounded great from the get go. Plus, you get to hear his mad little rants, complete with curse words and everything. :D
I highly reccomend the Bad Signal news letter. Those are the emails i most look forward to reading every day when i get home from work.
Neuromancer
10-19-2005, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
Just to set the record straight it isn't that I'm not an Ellis fan.
I only buy 12 books a month so I have to pick and choose what I buy.
I have read some of Warren's work in the past I just don't seek it out like I would for say a Rucka title.
But if the right project comes along with Warren Ellis attached to it I'll buy. Case in point being Fell.
Oh, no, I didn't mean it to come out that way, I should've been clearer and said up front earlier that I buy Warren Ellis almost sight unseen, like I did. Hell, if you weren't at least somewhat of a fan, you'd not have tried Fell, LOL!
Curiously enough, aside from Q&C and Everest (whenever the Hell it's coming out!), I try to avoid Greg Rucka like the plague! That's why I dropped Gotham Central: once Brubaker and Lark were off, I was like, what's the point? :p
perk9600
10-19-2005, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Neuromancer
Oh, no, I didn't mean it to come out that way, I should've been clearer and said up front earlier that I buy Warren Ellis almost sight unseen, like I did. Hell, if you weren't at least somewhat of a fan, you'd not have tried Fell, LOL!
Curiously enough, aside from Q&C and Everest (whenever the Hell it's coming out!), I try to avoid Greg Rucka like the plague! That's why I dropped Gotham Central: once Brubaker and Lark were off, I was like, what's the point? :p
Blasphemer!
I love Greg's work and like you with Ellis will buy it sight unseen.
What is interesting is that you like Q&C but don't care for his other work.
What in particular turned you off?
Everyone has a favorite so I'm not trying to convert you or anything. Greg just happens to be mine.
Neuromancer
10-19-2005, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
Blasphemer!
I love Greg's work and like you with Ellis will buy it sight unseen.
What is interesting is that you like Q&C but don't care for his other work.
What in particular turned you off?
Everyone has a favorite so I'm not trying to convert you or anything. Greg just happens to be mine.
You're not the first to ask me that, LOL! (Also wouldn't be the first time I got in trouble on a message board over it, but that's another story!) Generally, I just say I don't like him personally (as personally as you can ever dislike someone based on just reading their works and interviews, :p), but there are a few subject matters that he has written about that I very much enjoy: namely, Antarctica, mountaineering, and post-Cold War espionage. I just always feel like Rucka has a somewhat-arrogant political agenda in his works, which I don't accept the validity of...so it's funny that Q&C, arguably the most facially political of his works, is so apolitical in its character studies to me that I find it immensably enjoyable! Guess he learned his lessons from The Sandbaggers really well.
Hence, I really try not to badmouth him, or, for that matter, any creator...but I just don't support his work, unless I really like it for other reasons. And that, to me, is why I feel so bad about the output of Q&C (and, again, the long lost Everest work with Scott Morse) suffering in the face of pap like OMAC. Still, the man knows where his bread is buttered, so I can't fault him for doing less of the financially-risky creator-owned work.
Curious: do you like Rucka's prose work? I thought the first three Atticus Kodiak novels (all his works were given to me in a set, so I felt obligated to read them all) were ok, but his writing quality went severely downhill after them, especially since his near full-time comics writing. Even A Gentleman's Game had a rushed ending that I thought was unfortunate. Ah, well.
perk9600
10-20-2005, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Neuromancer
You're not the first to ask me that, LOL! (Also wouldn't be the first time I got in trouble on a message board over it, but that's another story!) Generally, I just say I don't like him personally (as personally as you can ever dislike someone based on just reading their works and interviews, :p), but there are a few subject matters that he has written about that I very much enjoy: namely, Antarctica, mountaineering, and post-Cold War espionage. I just always feel like Rucka has a somewhat-arrogant political agenda in his works, which I don't accept the validity of...so it's funny that Q&C, arguably the most facially political of his works, is so apolitical in its character studies to me that I find it immensably enjoyable! Guess he learned his lessons from The Sandbaggers really well.
Hence, I really try not to badmouth him, or, for that matter, any creator...but I just don't support his work, unless I really like it for other reasons. And that, to me, is why I feel so bad about the output of Q&C (and, again, the long lost Everest work with Scott Morse) suffering in the face of pap like OMAC. Still, the man knows where his bread is buttered, so I can't fault him for doing less of the financially-risky creator-owned work.
Curious: do you like Rucka's prose work? I thought the first three Atticus Kodiak novels (all his works were given to me in a set, so I felt obligated to read them all) were ok, but his writing quality went severely downhill after them, especially since his near full-time comics writing. Even A Gentleman's Game had a rushed ending that I thought was unfortunate. Ah, well.
I like it all. I read it all. I love it all. I own it all. :D
And I've been fortunate enough to meet Greg and attend several of his panels and he is very cool.
I will not fault you for your feelings. I personally don't enjoy Mark Millar's work and in the few times I've been to his message board I don't really like him either. But I know lots of people love him and even though I don't get it I also don't hold it against them.
Hopefully you come around on Rucka, but if you don't at least you gave him a fair shake and just don't enjoy the work.
And for the record I thought that a Gentleman's Game was his best novel yet. The ending was a total punch in the stomach. From talking to Greg I think it is his favorite too although he'll never come out and say that.
Anyway take care. Its been fun talking to you. I look forward to discussing issue #3 of Fell with you.
perk9600
10-26-2005, 12:21 PM
So did you pick up Private Wars N'Mancer?
kingofcities
10-26-2005, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
So did you pick up Private Wars N'Mancer?
I know your question wasn't directed at me, but what is it?
perk9600
10-26-2005, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by kingofcities
I know your question wasn't directed at me, but what is it?
Apologies Kingofcities.
Neuromancer and myself were discussing Queen & Country a few posts back. There was a novel written picking up after volume 7 of the TPB series called "A Gentlemen's Game". That novel is essentially volume 8 in the ongoing Q&C timeline. A new novel called Private Wars just came out yesterday picking up right were AGG left off.
And so far it is really good.
I'm a little biased because I love Rucka's work so much so you may want to take it with a grain of salt. However, if you like Q&C AGG is very much worth the read. And I imagine Private Wars will be too. Especially since when the comic comes back I imagine all the things that happen in the books will carry into the comics.
Hope that helps.
perk9600
10-26-2005, 02:15 PM
To get back on topic I just got my buddy Will reading Fell.
So we have another reader.
He'll be buying issue #3 when it comes out.
kingofcities
10-26-2005, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
Apologies Kingofcities.
Neuromancer and myself were discussing Queen & Country a few posts back. There was a novel written picking up after volume 7 of the TPB series called "A Gentlemen's Game". That novel is essentially volume 8 in the ongoing Q&C timeline. A new novel called Private Wars just came out yesterday picking up right were AGG left off.
And so far it is really good.
I'm a little biased because I love Rucka's work so much so you may want to take it with a grain of salt. However, if you like Q&C AGG is very much worth the read. And I imagine Private Wars will be too. Especially since when the comic comes back I imagine all the things that happen in the books will carry into the comics.
Hope that helps.
No apology necessary. :)
Rucka's comics can be hit and miss for me at times, but his novels have always blown me away. I wasn't even aware of the one you mentioned, but I'm pretty sure I've read all the rest. Thanks for the info though.
perk9600
10-26-2005, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by kingofcities
No apology necessary. :)
Rucka's comics can be hit and miss for me at times, but his novels have always blown me away. I wasn't even aware of the one you mentioned, but I'm pretty sure I've read all the rest. Thanks for the info though.
You weren't aware of A Gentlemen's Game or of Private Wars?
Because if you haven't read AGG yet and you like Greg's novels you are missing out in his best one IMO.
Of course if you haven't read Q&C you may want to catch up on that first, but you don't have to.
Either way if I can bring something to your attention that you would like to read then i feel good.
Take care.
kingofcities
10-26-2005, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
You weren't aware of A Gentlemen's Game or of Private Wars?
Because if you haven't read AGG yet and you like Greg's novels you are missing out in his best one IMO.
Of course if you haven't read Q&C you may want to catch up on that first, but you don't have to.
Either way if I can bring something to your attention that you would like to read then i feel good.
Take care.
I'm just not a fan of Q&C. The art was a turn off. Just didn't jibe with the type of story that's being told. At least that was my impression a few years ago. A novel is a different though. I might have have to check that out.
perk9600
10-26-2005, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by kingofcities
I'm just not a fan of Q&C. The art was a turn off. Just didn't jibe with the type of story that's being told. At least that was my impression a few years ago. A novel is a different though. I might have have to check that out.
I don't know anyone that read the Q&C novels without reading the comics first, but I've been told (and my recollection agrees) that you don't need to have the full background to understand.
So I'd go for it.
Randy A
10-31-2005, 06:45 PM
From the Bad Signal mailing list:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
FELL #1 & #2 SOLD OUT, GOING BACK TO PRESS
High consumer interest and positive reviews fuel demand
Contact: Jim Demonakos
510.644.4980 x16
jimdemonakos@imagecomics.com
BERKELEY, CA -- 31 October, 2005 -- Thanks to its excellent creative
team, original premise, low price point and overwhelmingly positive
reviews, both FELL #1 and FELL #2 have sold out at Diamond! FELL,
created & written by Warren Ellis and featuring art by Ben
Templesmith, debuted in early September to almost universal positive
praise.
With high demand for the series, Image Comics is going back to press
both of the issues. Each issue will feature the same cover and
content, no changes will be made to the printings aside from an
indicator in the indicia that the books are Second Printings, which
are scheduled to be in stores in early December.
Both fans and retailers are still talking about the book's format - a
24-page book featuring 16 pages of story and several pages of 'back
matter' - text stuff, sketches, background material, letters, and
more, all for only $1.99.
Says Ellis, "Everyone except Image thought I was crazy for devising
the format. The great and the good told me I was stupid for pitching
a smaller, denser book for less money. To me, this is a huge
vindication, and a justification for Ben Templesmith killing himself
to produce his career best. It's my hope now that more people follow
us into this format and make it a real alternative for short stories
and serialisations. And I hope that the people who gambled some
pocket change on FELL got what they wanted, and continue to do so."
To accompany this dense storytelling, there needed to be an artist
who could handle the visual experimentation of the format, but also
be able to tell a clear and accessible story. That's where Ben
Templesmith stepped up to the plate.
"Many many many thanks to all the people who've come out and decided
to have a try of a non super hero creator owned book in a new
format," said Templesmith. "At first I thought simply working with
Warren Ellis was the biggest honour, but selling out of what was even
overprinted for #1 and #2 just takes the cake for me. I am, to put
it mildly, well chuffed and humbled. Cheers to all who bought it, and
of course, especially Warren for letting me be the guy to draw it."
FELL #1 was printed above the standard Image overprint, plus the
first issue was overshipped and still sold out, while FELL #2 sold
out even quicker despite its own overprint. Both issues have seen
heavy reorder activity.
Orders for FELL 2ND PRINTING #1 (SEP058243) and FELL 2ND PRINTING #2
(SEP058244) are available now, as are advance orders on FELL #3
(SEP051691). Your local retailer can contact their Diamond Customer
Service Representative for ordering.
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perk9600
11-01-2005, 01:26 PM
Good news indeed.
However I didn't need to see a press release to know this.
I haven't seen a copy of either issue anywhere for a while.
Croaker
11-07-2005, 09:50 AM
I finally got Fell #2 this week and read it this weekend. What a great book. I had to wait so long to get #2, I kind of had given up on it, but it was definetely worth the wait.
kingofcities
11-07-2005, 10:21 AM
When is #3 out?
David Bird
11-07-2005, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by kingofcities
When is #3 out?
A couple of sites have it listed for this week, but more reliable sources I checked say they don't have it coming for Wednesday. Image just says November. It would be nice to see it.
kingofcities
11-07-2005, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by David Bird
A couple of sites have it listed for this week, but more reliable sources I checked say they don't have it coming for Wednesday. Image just says November. It would be nice to see it.
Yeah, I just checked midtowncomics.com and they don't have it listed either. They're usually pretty reliable.
David Bird
11-11-2005, 03:37 PM
Fell #3 is on for November 23! My source is Image Comic's homepage. If you go there you get a four page preview (I tried to link directly, but couldn't. I'm at work, so I don't have time to figure out why.) It says its a five page preview, but the fifth page just gives the release date.
Actually, the first page is the cover, so I guess its really a three page preview.
thingone
11-12-2005, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by David Bird
Fell #3 is on for November 23!
It was solicited for a Nov. 9 release. I guess two weeks late is tolerable. After hitting its target release date for #s 1 and 2, it'll be interesting to see if Fell continues to fall more and more behind with post-#3 issues.
metr0man
11-13-2005, 12:25 AM
Honestly, issue #1 is sitting on my desk unfinished, half-read. I found it to be rather pedestrian and boring, though the artwork was cool in a funky templesmith sort of way. Not to mention that it was about a cop investigating a crime, which is one of those incredible yawner things for me (other than the shield i dont know if i've ever enjoyed anything cop-based in any medium)
David Bird
11-19-2005, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by thingone
It was solicited for a Nov. 9 release. I guess two weeks late is tolerable. After hitting its target release date for #s 1 and 2, it'll be interesting to see if Fell continues to fall more and more behind with post-#3 issues.
Bad news! On fridays my LCS sends out an e-mail of whats coming in Wednesday. Yesterday's e-mail did not include Fell #3. Its a reliable source, which, in this case, is unfortunate.
SD Johnny
11-19-2005, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by metr0man
Honestly, issue #1 is sitting on my desk unfinished, half-read. I found it to be rather pedestrian and boring, though the artwork was cool in a funky templesmith sort of way. Not to mention that it was about a cop investigating a crime, which is one of those incredible yawner things for me (other than the shield i dont know if i've ever enjoyed anything cop-based in any medium)
Thankfully most of the posters in this thread don't share your opinion. I emjoy the book.
David Bird
11-22-2005, 02:16 AM
The preliminary November 30 lists show... no Fell! :mad: :(
Warren expected Fell #3 to be out this Wednesday, according to comments made on his group email list. perhaps there's a problem on the production/distibution end of things.
kingofcities
11-22-2005, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by David Bird
The preliminary November 30 lists show... no Fell! :mad: :(
This am not right. :(
David Bird
11-22-2005, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by buji
Warren expected Fell #3 to be out this Wednesday, according to comments made on his group email list. perhaps there's a problem on the production/distibution end of things.
I saw that and hope Ellis is right in the end.
Originally posted by David Bird
I saw that and hope Ellis is right in the end.
BELIEVE IN WARREN!!!
Ben Templesmith
11-22-2005, 01:39 PM
Well I just got my copy so it's got to be out sooon, honest.
kingofcities
11-22-2005, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
Well I just got my copy so it's got to be out sooon, honest.
Good to hear! :)
David Bird
11-22-2005, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by buji
BELIEVE IN WARREN!!!
I want to believe!
David Bird
11-25-2005, 07:46 PM
Fell #3 confirmed (http://curious.bc.ca/pages/new_this_week/new_this_week-C1.html) for November 30th!
Neuromancer
11-26-2005, 10:35 AM
Yeah, just saw that at Midtown Comics myself. :) For fans of Warren's work, btw, the Ocean TPB is also coming out Wednesday. I will be the first to admit, the ending was a little anticlimactic, but the story in-between is a real smooth and intriguing one. Judge for yourselves!
Haven't read Down #1 yet, so I'm curious how this will compare to Fell. Different takes on the same genre of mysteries, I'm assuming, like classic detection versus hard-boiled crime?
Randy A
11-26-2005, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by David Bird
Fell #3 confirmed (http://curious.bc.ca/pages/new_this_week/new_this_week-C1.html) for November 30th!
whoo hoo!
Shoeface
11-26-2005, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Neuromancer
Yeah, just saw that at Midtown Comics myself. :) For fans of Warren's work, btw, the Ocean TPB is also coming out Wednesday. I will be the first to admit, the ending was a little anticlimactic, but the story in-between is a real smooth and intriguing one. Judge for yourselves!
Haven't read Down #1 yet, so I'm curious how this will compare to Fell. Different takes on the same genre of mysteries, I'm assuming, like classic detection versus hard-boiled crime?
Down is very different to Fell, but worth checking out. The characters are just totally different, Rich Fell is cool, clever and uses his brain, while Ransome in Down uses her guns (at least in that issue) quite a bit. I also prefer Templesmith's artwork to Harris' in Down.
Punchy
11-26-2005, 11:24 AM
Sexy ;)
Neuromancer
11-26-2005, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Shoeface
Down is very different to Fell, but worth checking out. The characters are just totally different, Rich Fell is cool, clever and uses his brain, while Ransome in Down uses her guns (at least in that issue) quite a bit. I also prefer Templesmith's artwork to Harris' in Down.
Thanks for the heads-up, Shoe! Sounds like both titles are my cup of tea.
Still, much as I like his art, I think I'd be correct in pointing out that you're likely one of the very few that would prefer Ben's art to Tony's. :p
Shoeface
11-26-2005, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by Neuromancer
Thanks for the heads-up, Shoe! Sounds like both titles are my cup of tea.
Still, much as I like his art, I think I'd be correct in pointing out that you're likely one of the very few that would prefer Ben's art to Tony's. :p
Maybe I am, I guess I just like a more stylised...style of art. Templesmith just suits me more I guess, maybe I'm a werdio :p.
Also, Harris's work in that issue seemed a little off, and is very different to his work on titles like Ex Machina (which is excellent).
perk9600
11-30-2005, 04:06 PM
Got me a copy of #3!
I even had to walk up newbury street in the pouring rain to do so.
Turned out it was a good decision as me and my buddy (who I turned on to the series by buying him issues 1 and 2 as a gift) bought the only 2 copies.
I'll post my feedback tomorrow.
kingofcities
11-30-2005, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
Got me a copy of #3!
I even had to walk up newbury street in the pouring rain to do so.
Turned out it was a good decision as me and my buddy (who I turned on to the series by buying him issues 1 and 2 as a gift) bought the only 2 copies.
I'll post my feedback tomorrow.
Same here. I'm hitting the shop after work. :cool:
David Bird
11-30-2005, 06:39 PM
Got mine too, but won't be able t o read it until 5pm. Looks like we're all in the same boat.
kingofcities
12-01-2005, 09:08 AM
Read it last night. WELL WORTH the wait! Great pacing and dialogue. I love how there are only 3 people in this issue but they each have such a distinctive voice. And the ending is.....OUCH. Deserved but......OUCH! :eek:
Love the material in the back where Warren comments on the letters he's received. Some pretty funny s***. WE don't all sound that weird, do we? :p
David Bird
12-01-2005, 10:45 AM
I haven't read the letter page yet, but I was very happy with the story. I really enjoyed the first two issues, but I noticed a trend. In issue one Fell met a young woman who just happened to give him some valuable information. Information that enabled him to recognize a murder for what it was. In the second issue we saw some real defective work, but again a woman just happened to have the correct information to enable Fell to solve the killings. Information about obscure South East Asian magical killings.
They are great stories, but if it happened again it would be getting formulamatic. But it didn't! Great and original!
Time to give it up for Fell!
David Bird
12-02-2005, 11:33 AM
From today's Bad Signal:
Similarly,
we've had a few hiccups with FELL,
partly involving my health, so we'll
run a week late on that for a while,
and then build in a skip month after
#6.
So we know to expect a break in three months. I am not sure what the health problems were, exactly, but he was writing about being ill and wondering if he had bird flu (no, he wasn't serious about it being bird flu).
Punchy
12-02-2005, 12:04 PM
'I used to have a brother, now I have a bomb'
Genius:D
timbre68
12-04-2005, 07:07 PM
I passed and passed and passed. Then I started to hear good things and it was too late, my LCS sold out. However, upon visiting my back-up LCS I found issues 1,2 & 3. Man was I stupid to pass before. Great book!
Great characters. I love the art. Self contained stories are a strong plus! Liked the price. This format is awesome. The stories are not shorted due to the page length with Ellis' use of the 9 panel page. The letters page also adds a boost to the entertainment value. This comic gave me more entertainment time than most other books.
Color me happy! Hope Image follows suit with other books in this format.
David Bird
12-05-2005, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by timbre68
Color me happy! Hope Image follows suit with other books in this format.
I understand the upcoming Image title Casanova will follow the format, but I don't recall where I heard that.
Randy A
12-05-2005, 10:28 PM
(Fianlly) read issue 3 tonight. Loved it. Just everything about it was great. I look forward to #4.
David Bird
12-05-2005, 10:43 PM
The only thing I didn't like about it, really, was that there were too many letters and not enough Ellis (or Ben -- why not give the last pages over to Ben once in a while!).
perk9600
12-07-2005, 11:34 AM
The best line in the whole book was when the letter writer gave Warren and Ben 1000 respect points (or something like that). Warren then said something like "Ben hopes to eat some of that respect with his Ramen noodles this month. I don't care, I'm rich."
I nearly pissed myself.
Ben please tell us you aren't hurting like that! LOL
Ben Templesmith
12-07-2005, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
The best line in the whole book was when the letter writer gave Warren and Ben 1000 respect points (or something like that). Warren then said something like "Ben hopes to eat some of that respect with his Ramen noodles this month. I don't care, I'm rich."
I nearly pissed myself.
Ben please tell us you aren't hurting like that! LOL
I do ok for a guy not on any cushy big 2 type books. I can't complain. Never eaten Ramen. It's alll baked beans on toast and spam here. ;)
kingofcities
12-07-2005, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
It's alll baked beans on toast and spam here. ;)
ewwwwwww.......:eek: :D
Ben Templesmith
12-07-2005, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by kingofcities
ewwwwwww.......:eek: :D
Not at the same time. Heh.
GuitarSmashley
12-07-2005, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
Not at the same time. Heh.
too bad there is no government cheese in Australlia
nolanjwerner
12-07-2005, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
Not at the same time. Heh.
Ben, I have to say that I wasn't blown away by the first issue of Fell. But Issue #2 was there in the quarter bin (it was damaged) so I bought it and I really liked it. So I went back and then read 1 and 2 again and now I'm hooked. Probbaly going to buy number three today.
And your art is just incredible.
GuitarSmashley
12-07-2005, 05:02 PM
just finished #3 and it contunially gets better. I'm waiting for the fist fight between rich and the nixon nun.
David Bird
12-07-2005, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
I do ok for a guy not on any cushy big 2 type books. I can't complain. Never eaten Ramen. It's alll baked beans on toast and spam here. ;)
Try the ramon. Its good.
perk9600
12-08-2005, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
I do ok for a guy not on any cushy big 2 type books. I can't complain. Never eaten Ramen. It's alll baked beans on toast and spam here. ;)
I hate being nosey, but I just can't help it. So...
Is there any reason you don't currently do any work at Marvel or DC? Is this your decision or have they not called. Because frankly while I know your style is a little non-traditional, if I was Joe Q or Dan Didio I'd find something for you. In fact I saw your "pitch" for Ghost Rider and it was incredible. Actually I hadn't heard of you before that to be honest. But I was very impressed and bought Fell based mostly on that.
Anyway, I'm really just curious.
Wagon
12-08-2005, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by guitaryoni
just finished #3 and it contunially gets better. I'm waiting for the fist fight between rich and the nixon nun.
heh, that scene near the beginning, where Fell just looks at the Nixon Nun and says "I don't even know you, and I hate you" was priceless.
Ben Templesmith
12-08-2005, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
I hate being nosey, but I just can't help it. So...
Is there any reason you don't currently do any work at Marvel or DC? Is this your decision or have they not called. Because frankly while I know your style is a little non-traditional, if I was Joe Q or Dan Didio I'd find something for you. In fact I saw your "pitch" for Ghost Rider and it was incredible. Actually I hadn't heard of you before that to be honest. But I was very impressed and bought Fell based mostly on that.
Anyway, I'm really just curious.
Just never been asked. I'm not exactly mainstream or "classic" style either though. While i find some characters interesting and all, I'm not making it my quest in life to get onto any particular books. I've had all my fun just by being published in the first place. Everything else is icing on the cake for me, I'm damn lucky. GR was a bit of fun at the time. I love skulls.
Even if something happened tomorrow, I'm still basically busy for a whole year before I could probably consider anything new. ( If things go as planned that is! )
Hope that answers your q. :)
GuitarSmashley
12-08-2005, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Wagon
heh, that scene near the beginning, where Fell just looks at the Nixon Nun and says "I don't even know you, and I hate you" was priceless.
yeah that was great. SO ben can you clue us in a bit...is there a script with the nixon nun getting hers/his sometime soon???
Michael Hawk
12-08-2005, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by guitaryoni
yeah that was great. SO ben can you clue us in a bit...is there a script with the nixon nun getting hers/his sometime soon??? Bet she/ he tries to break into the local Watergate Church.
perk9600
12-09-2005, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Ben Templesmith
Just never been asked. I'm not exactly mainstream or "classic" style either though. While i find some characters interesting and all, I'm not making it my quest in life to get onto any particular books. I've had all my fun just by being published in the first place. Everything else is icing on the cake for me, I'm damn lucky. GR was a bit of fun at the time. I love skulls.
Even if something happened tomorrow, I'm still basically busy for a whole year before I could probably consider anything new. ( If things go as planned that is! )
Hope that answers your q. :)
I think I conceded that you aren't "mainstream". But you would work well on a book like Daredevil or the afore mentioned Ghost Rider.
I don't think it is a knock against your career or anything nor I'm a trying to make it sound like everyones goal should be to have big 2 work. I guess my main question isn't directed toward you at all. It is really "Why the f--- aren't Marvel and DC calling you non-stop trying to get you on a book. Then you could always tell them no if that isn't your thing. :)
nolanjwerner
12-10-2005, 05:14 AM
Just to let you guys know:
I loaned some comics to a guy I work with.
Heres what I gave him
We3
Seaguy
Vimanarama
Arkham Asylum 10th Anniversary hardcover
Fell #1-2
David Bird
12-10-2005, 10:10 AM
You're a generous and trusting man. The surest way to lose a book is to loan it out.
Croaker
12-11-2005, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Michael Hawk
Bet she/ he tries to break into the local Watergate Church.
Bwahhahaha! :D
Seriously, that would be so freaking hilrarious if you end up being right.
David Bird
12-14-2005, 05:02 PM
Check out my new Ellis related thread (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52419).
kingofcities
12-14-2005, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by David Bird
Check out my new Ellis related thread (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52419).
I saw that Signal this morning. I almost posted that here. :)
NCKfury27
12-14-2005, 05:52 PM
goddamn right! FELL is the ____!!! too bad my comic store is practically raping the consumers that slept on the 1st 2 issues by charging them almost double the cover... ELLIS had a smart plan... to bad he writes too damn good...
David Bird
12-15-2005, 02:07 AM
Reprinting for both issues 1 and 2 are top ten advance re-order comics, and the reprinting for 1 has sold out.
Shoeface
01-06-2006, 05:47 PM
Although you've probably all seen it by now, Warren Ellis posted a future Fell cover on his website. Looks very cool.
Check it out. (http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1676)
perk9600
01-08-2006, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Shoeface
Although you've probably all seen it by now, Warren Ellis posted a future Fell cover on his website. Looks very cool.
Check it out. (http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1676)
That cover is awesome!
thefellowship12
01-08-2006, 04:37 PM
when's the fourth issue out?
David Bird
01-10-2006, 09:17 AM
If you're looking for a way to turn someone onto Fell, Nrama is offering Fell #1 (http://www.newsarama.com/ImageComics/Fell/Fell01Issue.htm) free online!
perk9600
01-10-2006, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by David Bird
If you're looking for a way to turn someone onto Fell, Nrama is offering Fell #1 (http://www.newsarama.com/ImageComics/Fell/Fell01Issue.htm) free online!
Looks like we'll be gaining some new fans!
David Bird
01-10-2006, 10:24 PM
Good!
A heads up to fans of this new format:
The second 16 page comic is set to come out in the next month of so. Its called Casanova and its also from Image.
kingofcities
01-11-2006, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by David Bird
Good!
A heads up to fans of this new format:
The second 16 page comic is set to come out in the next month of so. Its called Casanova and its also from Image.
This book sounds really interesting. Matt Fraction has talked about it over in the Basement Tapes column he has with Joe Casey. Is there a set release date for this yet?
perk9600
01-11-2006, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by kingofcities
This book sounds really interesting. Matt Fraction has talked about it over in the Basement Tapes column he has with Joe Casey. Is there a set release date for this yet?
I love the avatar KoC.
I'd like one of just the ST symbol.
But I don't make stuff like that myself. :(
I'll stick with IPerk for now!
kingofcities
01-11-2006, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by perk9600
I love the avatar KoC.
I'd like one of just the ST symbol.
But I don't make stuff like that myself. :(
I'll stick with IPerk for now!
Thanks! :)
What do you mean "ST symbol"?
David Bird
01-11-2006, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by kingofcities
This book sounds really interesting. Matt Fraction has talked about it over in the Basement Tapes column he has with Joe Casey. Is there a set release date for this yet?
Nothing too specific. I saw May at the Engine.
kingofcities
01-11-2006, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by David Bird
Nothing too specific. I saw May at the Engine.
I checked the Image website, but they don't even have a search function. Ugh.
Guess I'll just have to be patient. Ugh. :p
Neuromancer
01-11-2006, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by David Bird
Good!
A heads up to fans of this new format:
The second 16 page comic is set to come out in the next month of so. Its called Casanova and its also from Image.
Tell me this isn't one of the most kick-ass ads you've ever seen:
http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/3042/casanovaadd8xz.jpg
:D
David Bird
01-12-2006, 01:46 AM
That cover alone should get a lot of people interested.
perk9600
01-13-2006, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by kingofcities
Thanks! :)
What do you mean "ST symbol"?
The "Tag" that they spraypaint on the walls and the Brand on his neck are an overlapping ST for "Snow Town".
I think it is a cool symbol. I'd like it to be in my sig or something.
kingofcities
01-13-2006, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by perk9600
The "Tag" that they spraypaint on the walls and the Brand on his neck are an overlapping ST for "Snow Town".
I think it is a cool symbol. I'd like it to be in my sig or something.
Ahhhhhhhhhh. Duh. :o
I can probably hook you up with something pretty easily.
perk9600
01-14-2006, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by kingofcities
Ahhhhhhhhhh. Duh. :o
I can probably hook you up with something pretty easily.
If you did I'd forever be in your debt.
But obviously you don't have to.
you just have to know that someone out there probably will end up branding themselves on the neck with that symbol eventually...
GuitarSmashley
01-16-2006, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by buji
you just have to know that someone out there probably will end up branding themselves on the neck with that symbol eventually...
Pretty sure the tattoo's are already showing up. I think I saw one a while ago on Warrenellis.com and I think I remember seeing the mark on a dog??
Shoeface
01-21-2006, 07:40 PM
So who knows when issue 4 is out?
Also, I really want a Snowtown Tag tattoo.
Randy A
01-22-2006, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by Shoeface
So who knows when issue 4 is out?
Also, I really want a Snowtown Tag tattoo.
I've been seriously considering one myself.
grbox2001
02-11-2006, 03:14 PM
*Bump*
I love Fell a ton, but does anyone know when #4 is coming out? I couldn't find any info about it on the Warren Ellis site. I love the book but the almost 2 month delay is killing me, I thought Green Lantern was bad about delays...
EmeraldGuy32
02-11-2006, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by grbox2001
*Bump*
I love Fell a ton, but does anyone know when #4 is coming out? I couldn't find any info about it on the Warren Ellis site. I love the book but the almost 2 month delay is killing me, I thought Green Lantern was bad about delays... Seriously! I need my Fell Fix! :mad:
kingofcities
02-11-2006, 05:03 PM
I don't remember Warren even talking about it on the Bad Signal. :(
Randy A
02-11-2006, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by kingofcities
I don't remember Warren even talking about it on the Bad Signal. :(
From Bad Signal:
In other news: FELL 1 is available
online, minus the backmatter,
at www.newsarama.com. #4 is a
little late -- I got the bird flu, as
you may recall, and then Ben got
ill for a while, our lead time got
eaten up, and so everything
got knocked back a bit. We'll
probably trail by a couple of weeks
for a couple of months, and then
the skip month we built in after #6
will catch us up. These are the perils
of launching a monthly on the back
end for no money up front -- and
a particularly difficult monthly at
that...
I love gmails search feature. :D
David Bird
02-15-2006, 10:21 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/davidbird/crying_baby.gif
When is the next issue coming out?
kingofcities
02-15-2006, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by David Bird
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/davidbird/crying_baby.gif
When is the next issue coming out?
It might be late because of this (http://www.newsarama.com/IDW/Wormwood/Wormwood.htm) . Sounds really cool actually, but damn, I want my FELL! :mad: :(
David Bird
02-15-2006, 10:39 AM
Possibly. Maybe Ben could weigh in on that. I don't mind when titles are bi-monthly or quarterly. They don't have to always be monthlies. But I hate it when they're late and you don't know when the next one is coming.
kingofcities
02-15-2006, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by David Bird
Possibly. Maybe Ben could weigh in on that. I don't mind when titles are bi-monthly or quarterly. They don't have to always be monthlies. But I hate it when they're late and you don't know when the next one is coming.
Agreed. I also would hate for FELL to lose it's momentum. It has had a tremendous amount of buzz and success for being an indie book and I'd hate for it to lose all it's steam because of delays.
Randy A
02-15-2006, 11:39 AM
But as Kirkman proves on a monthly basis, just because a book is late does not mean it loses steam.
kingofcities
02-15-2006, 11:45 AM
Ben just posted this over on the Wormwood thread:
Hatter M is a more Bimonthly type thing, but #2 is at the printers, and Fell #4 is also at the printers with #5 coming along. Promise.
Hell yeah. :cool:
Randy A
02-15-2006, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by kingofcities
Ben just posted this over on the Wormwood thread:
Hatter M is a more Bimonthly type thing, but #2 is at the printers, and Fell #4 is also at the printers with #5 coming along. Promise.
Hell yeah. :cool:
Thats some good news. Thanks for posting that. :)
kingofcities
02-15-2006, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by hal0
Thats some good news. Thanks for posting that. :)
No worries. Hot off the presses and all that. :D
Sirettx
02-16-2006, 11:59 AM
this issue was recommended to me, bought the first issue, and omg I love fell!! this was such a great comic, and it sucks because you know if one of the big 2 published this it'd stand a good chance to easily break top 20
but what a great issue
between this and Knights of the old republic #1 and fallen angel #1 I dont know why I haven't tried indie sooner!
ps everyone read Knights of the Old republic it is an awesome issue
David Bird
02-16-2006, 02:38 PM
We've talked about Casanova already, but now there is more here (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=59656) on the homepage!
I have also started a dedicated thread here (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59698) in Othere Publishers!
kingofcities
02-16-2006, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by David Bird
We've talked about Casanova already, but now there is more here (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=59656) on the homepage!
I have also started a dedicated thread here (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59698) in Othere Publishers!
That was a nice little article. Can't wait to hear more about the Casey book. :)
Sirettx
02-16-2006, 03:43 PM
anyone know when fell #4 comes out?
I think this is why i haven't tried indie books before, I always afraid I will get into a book and it will get cancelled
heres to fell though a top book on my list!
Randy A
02-16-2006, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Sirettx
anyone know when fell #4 comes out?
I think this is why i haven't tried indie books before, I always afraid I will get into a book and it will get cancelled
heres to fell though a top book on my list!
Originally posted by kingofcities
Ben just posted this over on the Wormwood thread:
Hatter M is a more Bimonthly type thing, but #2 is at the printers, and Fell #4 is also at the printers with #5 coming along. Promise.
Hell yeah. :cool:
Randy A
02-16-2006, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Sirettx
this issue was recommended to me, bought the first issue, and omg I love fell!! this was such a great comic, and it sucks because you know if one of the big 2 published this it'd stand a good chance to easily break top 20
but what a great issue
between this and Knights of the old republic #1 and fallen angel #1 I dont know why I haven't tried indie sooner!
ps everyone read Knights of the Old republic it is an awesome issue
Welcome to the world of Indie comics. I love it here. :D
Give Supermarket #1 a try if you get a chance. Came out this past wed. Great book.
David Bird
02-16-2006, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Sirettx
anyone know when fell #4 comes out?
I think this is why i haven't tried indie books before, I always afraid I will get into a book and it will get cancelled
heres to fell though a top book on my list!
Its in no danger of getting cancelled. Apparently, both Ellis and Templesmith were ill at one point or another, and both of them have a variety of other commitments.
David Bird
03-03-2006, 06:57 PM
March 8th: Fell #4!
Shoeface
03-04-2006, 09:54 AM
Yep, been confirmed, this week #4 comes out, as does issue 4 of Warren Ellis' Down, which is really, really good and worth checking out.
perk9600
03-05-2006, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Sirettx
anyone know when fell #4 comes out?
I think this is why i haven't tried indie books before, I always afraid I will get into a book and it will get cancelled
heres to fell though a top book on my list!
Fell isn't going anywhere.
Randy A
03-08-2006, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
Fell isn't going anywhere.
As long as the issues keep being as good as #4 you are correct sir. Great issue.
Sirettx
03-08-2006, 07:46 PM
this was a great issue and by far the #1 issue this week to me,
OMG what is the world coming to when my top 3 comics for the week involve no major Big-2 characters and 2 of them are indies!!!!
its the end of the world!!!
but please please please give us a fell # 50!
Randy A
03-08-2006, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Sirettx
this was a great issue and by far the #1 issue this week to me,
OMG what is the world coming to when my top 3 comics for the week involve no major Big-2 characters and 2 of them are indies!!!!
its the end of the world!!!
but please please please give us a fell # 50!
what are the other 2?
and welcome to the indie world. :D
perk9600
03-09-2006, 09:54 AM
Since I'm waiting on my Mailorder I can't even come into my own thread.
:(
So it was good huh?
David Bird
03-09-2006, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by perk9600
Since I'm waiting on my Mailorder I can't even come into my own thread.
:(
So it was good huh?
You can't? Well, let me tell you... ;)
Actually, I intent to have a review posted this weekend. I'll link when its done.
Randy A
03-09-2006, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by perk9600
Since I'm waiting on my Mailorder I can't even come into my own thread.
:(
So it was good huh?
I think the ending was the best part. But i won't give it away. :D
Shoeface
03-10-2006, 08:19 PM
Awesome issue, I'll avoid spoilers for Perk's benefit, but I really liked the way the issue gave us more insight into Rich's past. Amazing artwork too, the third page was disgusting but wonderfully drawn.
David Bird
03-10-2006, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Shoeface
Awesome issue, I'll avoid spoilers for Perk's benefit, but I really liked the way the issue gave us more insight into Rich's past. Amazing artwork too, the third page was disgusting but wonderfully drawn.
Yes, I am wondering when we'll get enough pieces together to figure out why he's in Snowtown.
David Bird
03-13-2006, 02:46 PM
The promised review of Fell #4 (http://www.paperbackreader.com/review.php?ReviewID=1273).
NICKD
03-13-2006, 08:50 PM
Fell is definately one of the best Image Comics currently out. I have yet to be dissappointed. Warren always puts a smile on my face.
jtrain110
03-13-2006, 09:33 PM
Fell has become the first book I read the week it comes out. I have also re-read the run (1 through 3 at the time) and enjoyed it more the second time around.
Randy A
03-14-2006, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by jtrain110
Fell has become the first book I read the week it comes out. I have also re-read the run (1 through 3 at the time) and enjoyed it more the second time around.
I need to do that soon. Go back and re-read them all.
David Bird
03-14-2006, 10:46 PM
I reread them all before writing the review. They flow well together. I know they aren't being written the trades, but they'll work well in that format, too.
ellis & templesmith on a detective book is just such an inspired collaboration. i really hope this book gets all the recognition it deserves.
innocentboy
03-15-2006, 07:24 PM
just read #4 and it's the 2nd issue of Fell that i've read/have.
liking it alot. and i do mean alot. hard to pinpoint just what i like about it, but it's rather all the things combined into that single issue that i like.
Sambo253
03-18-2006, 01:59 PM
I finally broke down and bought issues 1-4 of Fell yesterday. And of course I love it. I do love the "complete reading experience" with the backmatter and all.
The comic really is dense enough to where it reads slower than most mainstream titles. I'm glad that Ellis really has kept his promise of each issue being self contained. I started with issue 3 just to see if it was true. The only thing that was confusing was when he looked at the camera but it all made sense after reading issue 1.
I think what I like the most is when Warren explains the real life inspiration for the stories. It gives a whole new tone to the series. It makes Fell truly a real life hero, it's Ellis' way of fighting against the sick things that go on in real life.
This will become the only single issue series I'll be subscribing to.
lazitroll
03-19-2006, 04:37 AM
W00t... you know what rocks is I just got an email from my comic guy in town that my ordered copies of 1-4 have arrived!!
Tomorrow I shall be in the know.
David Bird
03-19-2006, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by lazitroll
W00t... you know what rocks is I just got an email from my comic guy in town that my ordered copies of 1-4 have arrived!!
Tomorrow I shall be in the know.
A good place to be.
Randy A
03-20-2006, 06:06 PM
I actually got my wife to read Fell #4. She hates comics (only because i like them so much :p ) and i noticed her sitting and reading #4 while i was checking my email. I convieniently found a couple of other things to do on the computer while she was waiting on me, and she read the whole issue. She liked it enough to ask if i had the first 3. So far this is only the second comic of mine she has read (she's read a few others, but they were all ones she had asked me to order for her.)
Oddly enough the other one was a Warren Ellis book too. Transmet tpb #1. She said she enjoyed it, but never picked up any of the others. Of course she may not read the other issues of Fell, but you heard it here first. Fell = good for new comic readers. :D
lazitroll
03-25-2006, 05:18 PM
Ok now that I've read 1-3 I have to say I see why it's received the good words.
Wow... very cool. I love this style anyway. I was big fan of Sam and Twitch.
Both are in the Seven mold... Obvously Fell's visuals are a bit more darker.
This'll defintely be a on-going for me.
David Bird
03-25-2006, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by lazitroll
Ok now that I've read 1-3 I have to say I see why it's received the good words.
Wow... very cool. I love this style anyway. I was big fan of Sam and Twitch.
Both are in the Seven mold... Obvously Fell's visuals are a bit more darker.
This'll defintely be a on-going for me.
Seven mold?
perk9600
04-05-2006, 04:34 PM
Fell gets Eisner nod for best new series!
It should win IMO.
Randy A
04-05-2006, 09:45 PM
Also got this news on Bad Signal today:
bad signal
WARREN ELLIS
And while I'm pausing to do email: I just got a note from
Image saying that the third printing of FELL #1 is sold
out, as is the current printing of FELL #3.
And there are only 500 copies of FELL #4 left in stock.
If you need more copies in a timely fashion, then order
them NOW.
We are now looking at an absurd FOURTH printing of
a USD $1.99 comic featuring a nun wearing a Richard
Nixon mask.
If you retailer types keep selling 'em, we'll keep printing
'em for as long as we can.
And to think some retailers accused us of leaving
money on the table. We seem to be hoovering it up
pretty damn good, no?
-- W
I can say for a fact that some shops are pricing a 2nd print of Fell #1 for double cover price. (and that was over a month ago).
thefellowship12
04-06-2006, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by hal0
Also got this news on Bad Signal today:
I can say for a fact that some shops are pricing a 2nd print of Fell #1 for double cover price. (and that was over a month ago).
Please tell me no one's buying them for that price?
I hate LCS's that do that :mad:
I bought Fell #4 on a whim cause with the cover price I felt like I wasn't risking anything, and that same afternoon I was on eBay tracking down first prints of issues 1-3.. (Which I found, in a lot with two other Ben Templesmith minis, including the 6 issues of Dark Days, a total of 11 comics, and I paid $9.99.. woo hoo).. but yeah, it's really great. the other incentive was the fact that the story was self-contained.. a lot of times I'll pass on a comic that looks good when my shop has, say, 1-2, and 4-5.. because I don't want to get into it and have to go tracking down number 3. Obviously, there are plenty of people willing to work a little to track down a particular comic, and long story arcs can be great.. but I can tell you, this is a major obstacle in getting new readers. Even if they're interested in a comic, they're almost certain to pass on it if they realize that it's part of some long involved thing that will be work and $ to complete.
I hope Casanova does well even though the story doesn't interest me much, just because I think this format is a brilliant way to do comics.
As for getting new people into comics.. my boyfriend, who doesn't generally like comics, LOVES Mouse Guard.. he's a children's lit major, and he says that the illustration is some of the best he's seen. Plus the characters and story are just great.. But, now I've managed to wander completely off-topic..
Randy A
04-06-2006, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by thefellowship12
Please tell me no one's buying them for that price?
I hate LCS's that do that :mad:
I had to unfortunately. :( Well i didn't have to, but i did for convenience sake. I needed a copy of fell that i could have a page cut out of, the 3rd printing hadn't come out yet, and they wanted like $10 or $12 for a first printing, and there was no way i was going to cut up my first printing. So, yea, i ended up paying twice cover price for it. (you think the guy would've given it to me for free with as much money as i had just spent with him. :mad: :mad: )
Randy A
04-06-2006, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by lime
I bought Fell #4 on a whim cause with the cover price I felt like I wasn't risking anything, and that same afternoon I was on eBay tracking down first prints of issues 1-3.. (Which I found, in a lot with two other Ben Templesmith minis, including the 6 issues of Dark Days, a total of 11 comics, and I paid $9.99.. woo hoo).. but yeah, it's really great. the other incentive was the fact that the story was self-contained.. a lot of times I'll pass on a comic that looks good when my shop has, say, 1-2, and 4-5.. because I don't want to get into it and have to go tracking down number 3. Obviously, there are plenty of people willing to work a little to track down a particular comic, and long story arcs can be great.. but I can tell you, this is a major obstacle in getting new readers. Even if they're interested in a comic, they're almost certain to pass on it if they realize that it's part of some long involved thing that will be work and $ to complete.
I hope Casanova does well even though the story doesn't interest me much, just because I think this format is a brilliant way to do comics.
As for getting new people into comics.. my boyfriend, who doesn't generally like comics, LOVES Mouse Guard.. he's a children's lit major, and he says that the illustration is some of the best he's seen. Plus the characters and story are just great.. But, now I've managed to wander completely off-topic..
YAY! another convert. :D
Originally posted by hal0
YAY! another convert. :D
You mean the fact that I was converted to Fell, or that my boyfriend was converted to Mouse Guard? He also loves Sandman.. but how can anybody not love Sandman? I'm thinking of getting him on Scott Pilgrim or Fables.. I'll make a nerd of him yet :D
Randy A
04-07-2006, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by lime
You mean the fact that I was converted to Fell, or that my boyfriend was converted to Mouse Guard? He also loves Sandman.. but how can anybody not love Sandman? I'm thinking of getting him on Scott Pilgrim or Fables.. I'll make a nerd of him yet :D
I was originally speaking of Fell, but converting your boyfriend works too. :D
My wife who genrally doesn't like comics liked Transmetropolitan quite a bit, you might try your boyfriend on that.
EmeraldGuy32
04-07-2006, 10:12 PM
Finally read Fell 4, and was not dissapointed. Ben's art seemed more inconsistant from panel to panel than normal but still amazing.
David Bird
04-07-2006, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by hal0
My wife who genrally doesn't like comics liked Transmetropolitan quite a bit, you might try your boyfriend on that.
I've also found Transmetro to be a good opener for people who aren't interested in comics.
vicvondoom
04-09-2006, 11:57 AM
Recently got all the issues of Fell through a combination of the Previews catalog and my friends in Canada(where I used to live).
I love this series! The art and writing are topnotch!
I'd like to thank everyone pimpin' this title on the 'Rama and thereby introducing me to this great comic.
Randy A
04-17-2006, 05:47 PM
From the Warren Ellis Blog
17/4/2006
FELL Sells Out AGAIN
Filed under:
* Work
— warrenellis @ 8:12 pm
The following is a press release from Image Comics:
Five Eisner Award nominations. Three issues sold out. Still only $1.99, the best deal in comics. FELL is having the best week ever.
Image Comics has announced it is going back to print on three separate issues of FELL - new printings on the two most recent issues (#3 and #4) along with a FOURTH printing for FELL #1. In keeping with previous re-printings, each new printing of FELL will feature the same cover and content, with no variants.
Aside from its amazing creative team and universal praise, what sets FELL apart is its unique format - coming in at only $1.99 for 24 pages, the ultra-compact story delivers more bang for the buck and is pioneering what is quickly being nicknamed the “FELL Format” comic book.
“It’s absurd that we are doing another printing of a $1.99 comic featuring a nun wearing a Richard Nixon mask. But as long as retailers keep selling ‘em, we’ll keep printing ‘em,” said Ellis. “And to think some retailers accused us of leaving money on the table. We seem to be hoovering it up pretty damn good, no?”
To top off its incredible sales velocity, it was also announced that FELL had received FIVE separate Eisner Award nominations - Best Continuinig Series, Best New Series, Best Writer, Best Painter/ Multimedia Artist and Best Lettering. The Eisner Awards winners will be announced at this year’s San Diego Comic Con International.
FELL is the first book from Image Comics to encompass this new format, but not the last. Debuting in June will be the second “Fell- Format” book, CASANOVA, a sci-fi espionage epic by Matt Fraction (Punisher: War Journal) and Gabriel Ba (Rock’n'Roll).
Don’t miss out on one of the hottest books on the stands, advance orders are available now for FELL #5 (NOV051740), which is scheduled to be in stores late May, the same time as these new printings. Also, still available for order is the 3rd Printing of FELL #2 (DEC058380).
These new printings - FELL 2ND PRINTING #3 (FEB068169), FELL 2ND PRINTING #4 (FEB068170) and FELL 4TH PRINTING #1 (FEB068168) - are available now for advance re-order. Your local retailer can contact their Diamond Customer Service Representative for ordering.
perk9600
04-24-2006, 03:24 PM
Gotta love it!
Randy A
04-24-2006, 04:56 PM
I'm loving my new Fell avatar. :)
David Bird
05-03-2006, 10:20 AM
From today's Bad Signal:
* My copies of FELL #5 turned up
today. I'm guessing this means it'll
be in stores next week. Initial-order
sales are still creeping up.
Randy A
05-03-2006, 05:46 PM
I read that too. I can't wait!! :D
Shoeface
05-03-2006, 06:43 PM
Awesome, I really can't wait for issue 5. I love Fell because I don't have to feel guilty about buying it. Comics like Civil War and Infinite Crisis that cost about $4 always make me feel bad because I know that money could be going to something more useful, but Fell is cheap enough to make me think it's ok for me to spend all my income on comic books. Also, it's a ____ing brilliant comic. Thank God for Warren Ellis and Ben Templesmith.
And yes, I got my girlfriend reading Transmet and she really enjoyed it. It is definatly a good comic to draw outsiders in with.
David Bird
05-05-2006, 10:49 PM
Bad news!
My local has posted whats coming in on the 10th and Fell isn't on it.
Randy A
05-05-2006, 11:37 PM
Bad news!
My local has posted whats coming in on the 10th and Fell isn't on it.
that's odd.. not that i'm doubting your shop, but Ellis sent this on Bad Signal this week:
* My copies of FELL #5 turned up
today. I'm guessing this means it'll
be in stores next week. Initial-order
sales are still creeping up.
That was on May 3rd. I hope it comes out this coming week. :(
David Bird
05-05-2006, 11:51 PM
I know. I quoted it above. Maybe its another week.
Randy A
05-06-2006, 12:30 AM
Oh, i'll be damned, you did. My bad. :)
Shoeface
05-06-2006, 10:30 PM
It's not on Midtown for this week either, looks like the 17th at the earliest :(.
David Bird
05-10-2006, 02:21 PM
According to the Diamond Daily Fell #5 is confirmed for May 17. We find out what Lt. Beard means when he says they have three and a half detectives.
David Bird
05-10-2006, 09:04 PM
Here's a preview. (http://www.popcultureshock.com/v/comic-previews/image-comics/fell/fell-5/fell-5_cover.jpg.html) Four pages and the cover.
Randy A
05-10-2006, 10:02 PM
Oh rock on. I can't wait to see that one. I'm going to avoid the preview for now, I want it to be all new when i read it. :D
lynchian
05-11-2006, 09:54 AM
Couldnt wait, had to read the previews.
I am in a blissfull state of blissfullness because this issue is going to whup some ass.
I love you warren ellis please call me
kingofcities
05-11-2006, 09:58 AM
I love you warren ellis please call me
LOFL :D
Write him through the Bad Signal. He's responded to me twice that way. :cool: ;)
Randy A
05-11-2006, 06:20 PM
LOFL :D
Write him through the Bad Signal. He's responded to me twice that way. :cool: ;)
He'll always write you back when you write him that way. It might be a 1 word answer, or not even any text at all but a link, or a txt document or something, but he always replys.
kingofcities
05-12-2006, 09:12 AM
He'll always write you back when you write him that way. It might be a 1 word answer, or not even any text at all but a link, or a txt document or something, but he always replys.
ACTUALLY, I wrote him a couple weeks back to ask if Nextwave was an ongoing or if it was a 12 issue maxi. There seems to be a bit of discrepancy about it online and I figured I'd go to the source for clarification.
He never responded. :(
Randy A
05-12-2006, 02:46 PM
ACTUALLY, I wrote him a couple weeks back to ask if Nextwave was an ongoing or if it was a 12 issue maxi. There seems to be a bit of discrepancy about it online and I figured I'd go to the source for clarification.
He never responded. :(
That sucks. I'll write in and ask him and see if i get a response.
kingofcities
05-12-2006, 02:52 PM
That sucks. I'll write in and ask him and see if i get a response.
Right on. Another book I'd like to know about is Jack Cross. DC said it was an ongoing then after the first arc said it will be back later. Warren hasn't mentioned it in forever yet he keeps bringing up all kinds of new things and his current projects on the Signal. Very strange...
David Bird
05-12-2006, 03:05 PM
Actually, I've replied once or twice to Bad Signal and never gotten a response. I didn't expect one and I wouldn't worry if you didn't get one either.
Randy A
05-15-2006, 10:25 PM
Right on. Another book I'd like to know about is Jack Cross. DC said it was an ongoing then after the first arc said it will be back later. Warren hasn't mentioned it in forever yet he keeps bringing up all kinds of new things and his current projects on the Signal. Very strange...
nada. I'm wondering if he even knows...
perk9600
05-16-2006, 10:10 AM
Can't wait for #5 tomorrow.
#4 was an awesome issue!
David Bird
05-18-2006, 02:45 AM
Okay, this is a great thread and I am going to continue to promote it, but...
I want to talk about Fell a lot more than we do here. I realize that not everyone gets their issue at the same time, so instead of spoiling things for them I have started a second discussion thread -- WITH SPOILER WARNINGS GALORE!
Having done that, I don't have time to kick off the discussion tonight :o (I have to get up before 5am tomorrow), but you'll find it here (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1994515#post1994515) and if no one has started the discussion before I log on tomorrow, then I will.
Issue #5 is great!
David Bird
07-03-2006, 06:33 PM
There are idiots and there are idiots and then there is Wizard magazine!
Today's Bad Signal:
FELL Is Not Cancelled
bad signal
WARREN ELLIS
WIZARD magazine, ____ing up my day once again...
http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=2742
-- W
Punchy
07-03-2006, 06:40 PM
There are idiots and there are idiots and then there is Wizard magazine!
Today's Bad Signal:
FELL Is Not Cancelled
bad signal
WARREN ELLIS
WIZARD magazine, ____ing up my day once again...
http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=2742
-- W
Wizard said it was cancelled? I didn't even know.
McAlice
07-03-2006, 06:44 PM
Yeah, not in the mag, but in an overview of one of his discussions at the con they had online
amlah6
07-05-2006, 12:56 AM
Looks like Wizard finally fixed the article online sometime this afternoon. When I saw this for the first time it had been up well over 24 hours. The article that's up now is missing the part about Fell. No mention of Wizard's frak up, of course.
Ben Templesmith
07-14-2006, 02:47 AM
Allo chaps, just wanted to let you know that if you're going to SDCC this year and wanting any art, just interested in seeing any FELL or WORMWOOD originals, wanting a sketch/sig off me, or just want to punch me out for being Australian, most of the time throughout the con I'll be over at my art dealer's booth, Splashpage Art at # 5200/5202.
It's pretty much my only US con for the year, so the only chance to get books signed or get sketches, which I'm more than happy to do. :) Thanks so much for the support you've all given the book so far. I just finished #6 so now it's in the hands of the lap of the gods and the fine folks at Image as to when it comes out. ;)
http://www.allochaps.com/conclave/fellpage03.jpg
David Bird
07-14-2006, 03:43 AM
Wish I could be there. Good to hear the next issue is on the way.
SD Johnny
07-14-2006, 01:12 PM
I'll be the guy hovering about with a suture above his left eye (I'm having surgery on Monday), clutching copies of Fell. Will you be there on preview night Ben?
Porcelain
07-14-2006, 03:28 PM
no more jack cross for DC,,it's on ellies's myspace
Ben Templesmith
07-15-2006, 05:10 PM
I'll be the guy hovering about with a suture above his left eye (I'm having surgery on Monday), clutching copies of Fell. Will you be there on preview night Ben?
I'll be around preview night yup, but might be a bit all over the place at first. Good luck with the eye. Ouch.
God-Man
08-02-2006, 08:40 PM
I picked up the 4th ptg of #2 today. With that, I've finally bought and read the first 5 issues of Fell. I like that the book is very weird, the art is great, the dialogue is sharp. However, the book hasn't really clicked for me. It's not one of my favorite books right now, but I think it's good enough (and cheap enough) for me to at least buy the next issue.
David Bird
08-07-2006, 09:48 PM
Yep. Just when you were adjusting to the unfairness of life, you get a surprise.
August 16th - Fell #6:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/davidbird/Fell-Issue006.jpg
This is according to Diamond's shipping list. Okay, I would never bet money on Diamond's shipping list, but lets not go down that pessimistic route. Nine days: new Fell!
lynchian
08-15-2006, 01:03 AM
Yep. Just when you were adjusting to the unfairness of life, you get a surprise.
August 16th - Fell #6:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/davidbird/Fell-Issue006.jpg
This is according to Diamond's shipping list. Okay, I would never bet money on Diamond's shipping list, but lets not go down that pessimistic route. Nine days: new Fell!
not coming out.
im going to go cut myself
(p.s. I love your sig)
deldredz
08-15-2006, 01:06 AM
not coming out.
im going to go cut myself
It is according to Midtown.
David Bird
08-15-2006, 01:07 AM
not coming out.
im going to go cut myself
(p.s. I love your sig)
Thanks. And my local is getting it too.
lynchian
08-15-2006, 02:41 PM
Thanks. And my local is getting it too.
well maybe there is hope yet
lynchian
08-17-2006, 12:39 AM
i apologize for my pessimistic attitude i just picked up the new issue
amazing as always
perk9600
08-29-2006, 09:43 AM
Sorry I haven't been around much lately.
Just read #6 and the book keeps chugging along awesome as always!
Shoeface
09-02-2006, 08:03 PM
Just like to add that #6 was incredibly good. The artwork seemed even better than usual, with the visual difference between inside and outside the house (mostly due to the shift in colour) being my favourite part of the comic. Really great stuff. The larger arc of Mayko and Rich's relationship and why Rich was sent across the river developed ever so slightly while the main focus of the issue was clever and well handled (although gross, really, really gross). Also, this book had the single best first line of any book I've ever read in my entire life. My favourite issue since the first one I'd say.
David Bird
09-28-2006, 11:27 AM
I just finished off a bunch of reviews (http://www.paperbackreader.com/newcolumn2.php?ColumnID=242) and thought I'd use it as an opportunity to bump some threads. All titles worth looking into!
Fell #6
[Ellis] and Templesmith continue to do phenomenal work. Ellis loves form and Fell continues to be a celebration of what in comic is called condensed storytelling, but in prose are simply called short stories. In this issue Fell asks Mayko out and it looks like we might me treated to an actual date, but then Fell takes a call and a ghoulish case develops. Even more sickening, this story is based on a real case. As much as I loved this issue, the conversation between Mayko and Fell raises an issue: we know nothing about Richard Fell. Why is he in Snowtown? We’ve gotten six masterly crafted issues, but we still don’t have much reason to identify with our hero.
Grade: A-
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