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Marchie77
10-03-2005, 08:06 AM
Because we need more Seven Soldier discussion threads... todays topic...

Mister Miracle... what was up with that?! Possible the MOST trippy of the books so far... I feel at a loss with a lot of this one because its a character with a bit more of a rep and a history so not being a DC nut by nature I am a bit at sea...

I mean it was still good... but in the way you know that the White Album is good...
EmeraldGuy32
10-03-2005, 08:19 AM
what other appearences has this new Mister Miracle made? And What ever happend to Scott Free?
DiscoVietnam
10-03-2005, 11:13 AM
Thanks for the SPOILER WARNING Marchie :mad: :rolleyes:

EmeraldGuy, Shiloh has been around since the original Miracle series in the 70s. He's not a new character.

In the MM ongoing by Giffen and DeMatteis (and then others) during the JLI era, Shiloh ended up taking over the performance end from Scott Free. That was the last time I saw him, but apparently he was working in a DCU prison as a consultant or some ____.

I can't verify anything beyond the "that was the last time I saw him" part :)
David Bird
10-03-2005, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Marchie77
I mean it was still good... but in the way you know that the White Album is good...

Interesting analogy. :D

Originally posted by DiscoVietnam
Thanks for the SPOILER WARNING Marchie :mad: :rolleyes:

But there weren't any spoilers.
Marchie77
10-03-2005, 12:39 PM
oh V just likes to pretend hes all mad at me for some reason when hes hepped up on goofballs
thefellowship12
10-03-2005, 01:00 PM
Mister Miracle was a great read, the art was so cool and the story was so bizarre, I can't wait to see where the next issue is going to go.

I can't wait for Zatanna
Ret
10-03-2005, 01:03 PM
Shilo played a big role in the "last Laugh" Joker crossover a few years ago.
Evil Twin
10-03-2005, 01:08 PM
I'm pretty happy about Morrison's use of the New Gods. I think the idea of avatars fighting it out on Earth and the idea that it takes a leap of faith to see what is happening are excellent ideas to convey the idea of these being "gods" and not "superpowered extradimensional beings."
Marchie77
10-03-2005, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by Evil Twin
I'm pretty happy about Morrison's use of the New Gods. I think the idea of avatars fighting it out on Earth and the idea that it takes a leap of faith to see what is happening are excellent ideas to convey the idea of these being "gods" and not "superpowered extradimensional beings."

oh yeah... and darkseid...

now im no DC nut but i always thought it was "dark seed" and not "dark side"

now... this guys bad news right? little info please? is he the DC Thanos?
Evil Twin
10-03-2005, 04:50 PM
It's more like Thanos is the Marvel Darkseid since Jim Starlin created him afterwards and acknowledged the influence.

As far as I know, Kirby pronounced it "Dark Side" although there certainly was debate in the fan community.

I'm familiar with the Fourth World titles, but I just have to ask, "What's there to really know to enjoy Mister Miracle?" The reader is cast in the same position as Shilo, given an idea that these characters are out there and that there's a bunch of good guys and bad guys, headed by "Dark Side". And we'll find out more as Shilo does.
Stancheck
10-03-2005, 07:17 PM
But what is with FRANKENSTEIN???(Solomon Grundy were better!)

Marvel has Frankenstein,other have Doc Frankenstein and
now DC own his Frankenstein.
shifty
10-03-2005, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Evil Twin
As far as I know, Kirby pronounced it "Dark Side" although there certainly was debate in the fan community.


What debate? It's the same vowel sound in Ben Stein. Dark "Side".
Proud Texan
10-03-2005, 09:34 PM
The depiction of Granny Goodness and the Female Furies as characters straight out of some pimp hip-hop video was rather bizarre!

Just like with all of these titles, I am intrigued, and will wait and see what happens next. I'm totally along for the ride, tho.
TTROY
10-03-2005, 09:52 PM
aftergetting halfway through this "series" of series and knowing that Grant is involved in the Infinite Crisis is some way (remeber he is part of the 52 pltting team and DC's editorial braintrust right now along with Johns,Rucka,Waid and Winnick(and Giffen)

So this leads me to believe that along with what is going on in this "series" that clues are being dropped here and there as to the nature of the DCU and the relationship these heroes have in in with relation to the others.... 7 Soldiers coincidentally Ends right as the one year gap starts as well.

leading right into 52.....

Morison is doing an amazing job with the whole meta-fiction asspect... dovetailing 8 minis into 1
4DGlasses
10-04-2005, 01:25 AM
I think that Pariah was talking about Gloriana Tenebrae or Neh-Buh-Loh when he told Luthor he wasn't the biggest predator in Villains United #5.

Would anyone else read a Zatanna ongoing? I would.

Drawn by Adam Hughes...

:drools:
David Bird
10-04-2005, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by 4DGlasses
Would anyone else read a Zatanna ongoing? I would.

I would. In fact, I am going to write an open letter to DC arguing that she should get her own title. When its done I am going to have it posted on PBR.

(Ha! There -- I committed! Man, if I did half the things I mean to...)
Ret
10-04-2005, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by 4DGlasses
I think that Pariah was talking about Gloriana Tenebrae or Neh-Buh-Loh when he told Luthor he wasn't the biggest predator in Villains United #5.



Hmmmm possible.

Love your sig David. :(
Marchie77
10-04-2005, 08:15 AM
i dont want to be behind here... so can anyone give me a super swift breakdown of these New Gods and Darkseid...
David Bird
10-04-2005, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Marchie77
i dont want to be behind here... so can anyone give me a super swift breakdown of these New Gods and Darkseid...

Here's a bit from Don Markstein's Toonopedia. (http://www.toonopedia.com/newgods.htm)
Marchie77
10-04-2005, 10:41 AM
interesting... aspects of thor and dr doom...

was it any good?
furioso2012
10-05-2005, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Marchie77
interesting... aspects of thor and dr doom...

was it any good?

Good enough to last thirty-five years despite being an incomplete series (the whole Forth World opus). Only Walt Simonsen has ever done anything really interesting with the New Gods: he actually moved the myth-story forward. Alas, it got canned. And of course GM is now forging ahead with 4th World too...
David Bird
10-05-2005, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by furioso2012
Good enough to last thirty-five years despite being an incomplete series (the whole Forth World opus). Only Walt Simonsen has ever done anything really interesting with the New Gods: he actually moved the myth-story forward. Alas, it got canned. And of course GM is now forging ahead with 4th World too...

All the New Gods related comics, with the exception of Mr Miracle, which went on for a while, could fill one DC Showcase book -- and maybe they should!
furioso2012
10-05-2005, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by David Bird
All the New Gods related comics, with the exception of Mr Miracle, which went on for a while, could fill one DC Showcase book -- and maybe they should!

Ya think so? Even including JIMMY OLSEN and HUNGER DOGS? That'd be seriously cool...

There were 12 or so NG, same for Forever people. Another dozen Jimmy's. Hmm. Guess in a pinch there would have to be TWO books. Fine by me!
nolanjwerner
10-05-2005, 12:58 AM
Fourth World colelction would be awesome.


But post kirby, most of the Fourth World stuff hasnt measured up.
4DGlasses
10-06-2005, 06:17 PM
Zatanna #4 pushed back AGAIN!

November 2 street date.

Still, it's more on track than Ellis's Iron Man...
Groovie Mann
10-06-2005, 07:50 PM
someone should PM matt brady to move my seven soldiers overview thread to this forum. or maybe i should...
David Bird
10-06-2005, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by 4DGlasses
Zatanna #4 pushed back AGAIN!

November 2 street date.

Still, it's more on track than Ellis's Iron Man...

I've never checked, but do they push back all the release dates when one is behind? That is, do they hold to the same overall schedule?
David Bird
10-06-2005, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Groovie Mann
someone should PM matt brady to move my seven soldiers overview thread to this forum. or maybe i should...

According to the "Folks" thread, that isn't necessary. You can post anything, anywhere.
4DGlasses
10-06-2005, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by David Bird
I've never checked, but do they push back all the release dates when one is behind? That is, do they hold to the same overall schedule?
According to dccomics.com, Klarion comes out 10-19-05, but Zatanna comes out 11-02-05. Looks like just the one issue getting shifted so far...

For those who haven't been following, Zatanna DID come before Klarion.

I don't care myself. It kinda gives me a chance to re-read all the 7Soldiers books, again!
Marchie77
10-07-2005, 06:01 AM
last time it happened we had a couple of one per weeks...



hurry up zatanna... we need to see what the deal is with horsefeathers/vanguard...
David Bird
10-26-2005, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by David Bird
I would. In fact, I am going to write an open letter to DC arguing that she should get her own title. When its done I am going to have it posted on PBR.

(Ha! There -- I committed! Man, if I did half the things I mean to...)

I've written it. Here it is. (http://www.paperbackreader.com/newcolumn.php?ColumnID=32)