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Mister
10-03-2005, 07:39 AM
I only recently started to get interested in Star Wars Comics, before the Movie Episode 3 I had none, so along with all the reading I'm behind with I still managed to still read a few trades, those I really likes

- Twilight
- Darkness
- Crimson Empire
- Empire vol 1

I got plenty more to read

Faz500
10-03-2005, 10:33 AM
Some trades that come to mind that I've enjoyed are:

JEDI COUNCIL: ACTS OF WAR
THE HUNT FOR AURRA SING
DARTH MAUL

The Clone War trades are generally good. Have a look through the collected tales too - the quality is variable but there is one that has Darth Vader meeting (and fighting) Darth Maul. That's a surprisingly good story. Avoid the DARK EMPIRE trilogy - it's the worst piece of crap I've ever read.

I've the found the comics to be very hit and miss on the whole with more misses than hits. Have you tried the novels? They are generally all pretty good (except the ones written by Kevin Anderson).

Check out the X-WING novels if you haven't already.

Faz

elfin27
10-03-2005, 10:58 AM
U may wish to pick up Infinities - the alternate versions of Episodes 4, 5 n 6.

Also I think the third vol of Empire that collects the mid-teens? There is an arc featuring some Storm Troopers and their commanders assigned to a planet ... and were under sieged ... cannot remember the actual numbering sequence ... what was good is it showed that not all Imperial Troopers are terrible folks ... soldiers are soldiers ...

anyway the prime character is popular that he is making a comeback in Empire #30s ...

grphxkindaguy
10-03-2005, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Faz500
I've the found the comics to be very hit and miss on the whole with more misses than hits. Have you tried the novels? They are generally all pretty good (except the ones written by Kevin Anderson).

Check out the X-WING novels if you haven't already.

Faz

You hit the nail on the head!

I've bought all the SW DH series/mini's since day one and totally agree.

I thought the Tales of the Jedi assorted mini's were the weakest.

I really enjoyed VADER'S QUEST (Dave Gibbons on art!), the X-Wing: Rogue Squadron series and the Darth Maul mini as well. The comic adaptations of the Heir to the Empire book trilogy is also a fave of mine.

IMO the Infinities mini's were just so-so. Could've been sooo much better...

grphxkindaguy
10-03-2005, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by elfin27
Also I think the third vol of Empire that collects the mid-teens? There is an arc featuring some Storm Troopers and their commanders assigned to a planet ... and were under sieged ... cannot remember the actual numbering sequence ... what was good is it showed that not all Imperial Troopers are terrible folks ... soldiers are soldiers ...

anyway the prime character is popular that he is making a comeback in Empire #30s ...

That was my fave storyline of EMPIRE. Great art, gripping story, and seeing the Empire get their @$$ kicked...by natives w/spears!!!

Now you now why the Ewoks won... :p

Faz500
10-03-2005, 11:52 AM
grphxkindaguy,

I agree with you. I could never afford all the minis ad have been following them all in trade for the most part and borrowing from friends when the minis are not available in trade. Those TALES OF THE JEDI books - I'd forgotten about them. Kevin J. Anderson wrote most of those with Rick Veitch starting the ball rolling... They were so utterly lacking in imagination. I blame Anderson for being the first to acknowledge the Rick Veitch stuff as EU continuity... I get the feeling that it would have been quietly forgotten about otherwise...

VADER'S QUEST is awesome. Pure Star Wars action at it's best. I didn't enjoy the X-WING comics as much as I did the books - except for the THE PHANTOM AFFAIR - awesome clean artwork, a fast-moving plot and some great space battles.

Faz

grphxkindaguy
10-03-2005, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Faz500
[BVADER'S QUEST is awesome. Pure Star Wars action at it's best. I didn't enjoy the X-WING comics as much as I did the books - except for the THE PHANTOM AFFAIR - awesome clean artwork, a fast-moving plot and some great space battles.

Faz [/B]

Yeah, I think VQ is my fave SW mini by far. Big Vader fan, love to see him in the Spotlight! I loved the Empire issues, where he was stranded on a planet (after his TIE fighter crashed after the destruction of the Death Star) and "adopted" by a herd of hiena-like creatures.

Did you ever read any of the Boba Fett or Jabba one-shots? I think they're all collected in tpb. Good stuff also. Loved "twin engines of destruction", Boba battling another guy in a Boba Fett suit!!!

Did you ever read any of the Marvel run? Dark Horse also collected those in trades. Some of it is great, some just god-awful, especially the issues taking place after ROTJ...

I can talk Star Wars comics all day...

Faz500
10-03-2005, 01:09 PM
I remember the Vader story - man, I never really get to talk about the EU with people - most of my friends don't have as extensive a knowledge of the books and comics as I do. I got all the Marvel stuff in trades and you're absolutely correct in your assessment of them. Compare them to the Dark Horse stuff and you can see how very much they were a product of their time.

I reall wish that DH put out more comics with art by Davide Fabbri and Christian Dalla Vecchia - those guys really nailed the look and feel of the movies.

I liked the Fett stories, especially ENEMY OF THE EMPIRE but the Jabba ones left me cold. Hey, what did you think of THE YAVIN VASILIKA? I kinda enjoyed that although the art took some getting used to.

I'm more into the novel series though with the Stackpole and Allston books some of my faves. Zahn basically set the tone for everyone who followed. Can't wait for Outbound Flight to be published...

grphxkindaguy
10-03-2005, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Faz500
I remember the Vader story - man, I never really get to talk about the EU with people - most of my friends don't have as extensive a knowledge of the books and comics as I do. I got all the Marvel stuff in trades and you're absolutely correct in your assessment of them. Compare them to the Dark Horse stuff and you can see how very much they were a product of their time.

I reall wish that DH put out more comics with art by Davide Fabbri and Christian Dalla Vecchia - those guys really nailed the look and feel of the movies.

I liked the Fett stories, especially ENEMY OF THE EMPIRE but the Jabba ones left me cold. Hey, what did you think of THE YAVIN VASILIKA? I kinda enjoyed that although the art took some getting used to.

I'm more into the novel series though with the Stackpole and Allston books some of my faves. Zahn basically set the tone for everyone who followed. Can't wait for Outbound Flight to be published...

yeah, the DH stuff and the Marvel stuff are worlds apart in quality.

I'm not to familiar w/the creator names on the different SW stuff (except the more famous names - Ostrander, Durrsema, Gibbons etc.), who are the one's you referred to? Did they do the ROTS adaptation?

um, which one is the Yavin Vasilika book? My memory gets so jumbled, I read so much comics in general.

I loved the SW Zahn novels, but everything else read from bad to worse IMO. Finally stopped reading them altogether. I will only bother to read the Zahn books (though I did read the Darth Maul one-shot novel, which I enjoyed) from now on...

Did you hear they're planning to *CANCEL* SW: Empire & Republic, in the coming months? They will launch a new title, KNights of the Old Republic (based on the video game?). I have NO interest in this whatsoever. I just may quit reading SW comics altogether, or just switch to tpbs, we'll see...

Faz500
10-03-2005, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
I'm not to familiar w/the creator names on the different SW stuff (except the more famous names - Ostrander, Durrsema, Gibbons etc.), who are the one's you referred to? Did they do the ROTS adaptation?

Fabbri and Dalla Vecchia were the artists of HUNT FOR AURRA SING and JEDI COUNCIL: ACTS OF WAR. They are my favorite SW artists. Fabbri's pencils capture the kinetic urgency of the action like nobody else and it amazes me that he is able to pack so much into a scene without it becoming cluttered.

Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
um, which one is the Yavin Vasilika book? My memory gets so jumbled, I read so much comics in general.

The Yavin Vasilika (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1569716188/qid=1128366213/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-9924165-5046540?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) was an Indiana Jones style hunt for a mythical artifact. I enjoyed the story but it took me a while to get used to the art. I know what you mean about getting jumbled - it's tough to keep all this useless information straight in my head...

Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
Did you hear they're planning to *CANCEL* SW: Empire & Republic, in the coming months? They will launch a new title, KNights of the Old Republic (based on the video game?). I have NO interest in this whatsoever. I just may quit reading SW comics altogether, or just switch to tpbs, we'll see...

Yeah, I heard about this. Taking a step back, I can see why DH are cancelling these books - from a marketing point of view, there is no immediate franchise for these books to hook onto now that the movies have finished. The only existing franchise seems to be the KOTOR video game. Am I interested in a book set in this time period? I don't know, I could stand to be convinced. I'll follow it in the trades and see.

You should give the novels another shot. If you enjoyed the Zahn books, there's a good chance that you'll enjoy the X-WING series. I enjoyed most of the SW novels, just off the top of my head, anything by James Luceno, Michael Stackpole, Aaron Allston and Matthew Woodring Stover is really good. Stover, especially. Also every single book in the New Jedi Order saga is exceptionally good quality with TRAITOR being my all time favorite SW novel - even better than Zahn.

Faz

grphxkindaguy
10-03-2005, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Faz500
Fabbri and Dalla Vecchia were the artists of HUNT FOR AURRA SING and JEDI COUNCIL: ACTS OF WAR. They are my favorite SW artists. Fabbri's pencils capture the kinetic urgency of the action like nobody else and it amazes me that he is able to pack so much into a scene without it becoming cluttered.

Yavin Vasilika[/URL] was an Indiana Jones style hunt for a mythical artifact. I enjoyed the story but it took me a while to get used to the art. I know what you mean about getting jumbled - it's tough to keep all this useless information straight in my head...

You should give the novels another shot. If you enjoyed the Zahn books, there's a good chance that you'll enjoy the X-WING series. I enjoyed most of the SW novels, just off the top of my head, anything by James Luceno, Michael Stackpole, Aaron Allston and Matthew Woodring Stover is really good. Stover, especially. Also every single book in the New Jedi Order saga is exceptionally good quality with TRAITOR being my all time favorite SW novel - even better than Zahn.

Faz

okay yeah, I remember the art team from Jedi Council, they did do a good job.

From the Yavin thing (Underworld), I do remember NOT enjoying it, and really being turned off by some of the artwork...

I kinda've outgrown most sci-fi books. I used to religiously read the Star Trek books, but even these bored me after a time. I've seen the X-Wing series of books in the stores, but never got around to it. Maybe my library has some...

I heard about the New Jedi Order saga, and vowed to never read them... :(

thefellowship12
10-03-2005, 06:14 PM
I have only read one star wars story and that's the Battle Of Jabiim story, great art and great action, it also has quite a lot of emotion, the ending is a bit rushed but I think it's a worthwhile purchase.

I've been wondering have any of The Ostrander Republic stories been good?

Faz500
10-03-2005, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
I heard about the New Jedi Order saga, and vowed to never read them... :(

How comes?

Originally posted by thefellowship12
I've been wondering have any of The Ostrander Republic stories been good?

They've been a mixed bag. I think Ostrander had a definite idea for where he wanted to take the character but oftentimes got bogged down in other storylines. Check out the DARKNESS trade - if you liked that, there's a good chance you'll like the rest.

Faz

grphxkindaguy
10-04-2005, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Faz500
How comes?

Faz

One of the guys at my LCS told me some of the highlights of what went on, and it sounded really lame IMO.

I guess I've outgrown the SW books as well...

(although I *will* be picking up any future Zahn books!)

Did you read the General Grevious mini? It took forever for it to finish (ROTS was already out of theatres!), and it had nothing new to offer about GG.

thefellowship12
10-04-2005, 01:04 PM
Check out the DARKNESS trade - if you liked that, there's a good chance you'll like the rest.

This is a Star Wars trade right?

Faz500
10-04-2005, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
Did you read the General Grevious mini? It took forever for it to finish (ROTS was already out of theatres!), and it had nothing new to offer about GG.

I had a flick through it at my LCS when it came out and I got the impression that it would be yet another throwaway tie-in that revealed nothing. Reminded me of the Darth Maul mini of a few years back. The art seemed nice but I haven't picked up the trade yet. Was it any good? Chuck Dixon is pretty solid writer but I don't know if his style is suited for SW.

As for the books, I really enjoyed the NJO saga - I thought it was exactly what the EU needed. There was a story arc for all my favorite characters and the writers did a damn good job of making me care for ancilliary characters and developing the next generation of Jedi Knights. And TRAITOR is the best SW book I have ever read, bar none.

What did you think of the REPUBLIC book? I think it reallygot going once Ostrander took over and when the CLONE WARS started it became a really solid book.

Originally posted by thefellowship12
This is a Star Wars trade right?

Yup.

grphxkindaguy
10-04-2005, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Faz500
I had a flick through it at my LCS when it came out and I got the impression that it would be yet another throwaway tie-in that revealed nothing. Reminded me of the Darth Maul mini of a few years back. The art seemed nice but I haven't picked up the trade yet. Was it any good? Chuck Dixon is pretty solid writer but I don't know if his style is suited for SW.

As for the books, I really enjoyed the NJO saga - I thought it was exactly what the EU needed. There was a story arc for all my favorite characters and the writers did a damn good job of making me care for ancilliary characters and developing the next generation of Jedi Knights. And TRAITOR is the best SW book I have ever read, bar none.

What did you think of the REPUBLIC book? I think it reallygot going once Ostrander took over and when the CLONE WARS started it became a really solid book.


The Darth Maul mini was also a throw-away title, but it was definitely waaay better then the GG mini. Ron Marz wrote it, Durrsema IIRC drew it.

Dixon is usually good, but GG felt "phoned in".

I'm really loving the Republic book as well, especially in the events leading up to ROTS. Even though they can't really tell anymore stories post Episode 3 (which is basically the era of EMPIRE), they can at least tell "origin/back stories" of some of the major characters. How did Palpatine learn the ways of the sith? how did he find Darth Maul and train him? When/how did he come up w/his idea to take over? How did Shmi Skywalker get impregnated? Stuff like that...

Faz500
10-04-2005, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
How did Palpatine learn the ways of the sith? how did he find Darth Maul and train him? When/how did he come up w/his idea to take over? How did Shmi Skywalker get impregnated? Stuff like that...

I don't think any of those questions will ever be dealt with directly. However, you can do some detective work and figure things out...

Palpatine was the protege of King Veruna of Naboo who was implicated in a huge scandal involving mass murder and mass graves being uncovered (I think, my memory is a little hazy). He was forced to abdicate and was murdered in his sleep while in exile.

Joining the dots, it seems that Veruna was Darth Plagueis. So the questions should really be how did Veruna become versed in the ways of the Sith? Did the plan to conquer the galaxy originate with Veruna? Or Palpatine? Or were they simply forwarding a plan generations in the making? And Shmi Skywalker: I think we can safely assume that Darth Plagueis, being the one who discovered how to create life, was also responsible for impregnating Shmi. Anakin was just another piece of the plan. Maybe Plagueis had a ton of Force-babies stashed all over the galaxy! :D

Faz

grphxkindaguy
10-05-2005, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Faz500
I don't think any of those questions will ever be dealt with directly. However, you can do some detective work and figure things out...

Palpatine was the protege of King Veruna of Naboo who was implicated in a huge scandal involving mass murder and mass graves being uncovered (I think, my memory is a little hazy). He was forced to abdicate and was murdered in his sleep while in exile.

Joining the dots, it seems that Veruna was Darth Plagueis. So the questions should really be how did Veruna become versed in the ways of the Sith? Did the plan to conquer the galaxy originate with Veruna? Or Palpatine? Or were they simply forwarding a plan generations in the making? And Shmi Skywalker: I think we can safely assume that Darth Plagueis, being the one who discovered how to create life, was also responsible for impregnating Shmi. Anakin was just another piece of the plan. Maybe Plagueis had a ton of Force-babies stashed all over the galaxy! :D

Faz

Where did you read about this King Veruna person? I've never heard any mention of him...

I would also love to see stories about the jedi who quit the jedi order. Those were the busts of those that quit (Dooku among them), that Obi-Wan was looking at in the Jedi library, in AOTC.

algertman
10-05-2005, 10:36 AM
My favorites are the Star Wars Tales

grphxkindaguy
10-05-2005, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by algertman
My favorites are the Star Wars Tales

those were good in the beginning, but I thought the title went to crap during the end, when they started to focus on the EU characters, the ones outside of the movies/comic books.

rchilton
10-05-2005, 01:28 PM
I love the X-Wing trades, and they tie in well (but not needed to enjoy) stackpole's novels, which with Zahn's stuff are my favourite SW novels. Great art too.
I only read trades, but I saw a new X-wing comic on the shelves last weekend at the comic shop - anyone have details?

I also read the Empire trades (sad to hear of that series ending) and enjoy Tales.

grphxkindaguy
10-05-2005, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by rchilton
I only read trades, but I saw a new X-wing comic on the shelves last weekend at the comic shop - anyone have details?


I'm a big fan of the X-Wing Rogue Squadron comics, my fave DH book.

its a 3-issue mini-series, that's all I know.

I'm getting it, but plan to read it all in one shot, when the series wraps up.

Faz500
10-05-2005, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
Where did you read about this King Veruna person? I've never heard any mention of him...

I would also love to see stories about the jedi who quit the jedi order. Those were the busts of those that quit (Dooku among them), that Obi-Wan was looking at in the Jedi library, in AOTC.

I honestly can't remember where I read it - I probably pieced it together from lots of different sources - the novels, comics, rpg, computer games etc. There's waaaaaaaaaaaay too much Star Wars stuff out there.

I ran a Star Wars RPG a few years ago and ended up doing a lot of research on it.

I agree with you about the Jedi who quit - there's a lot of possibility for further exploration there.

I also wish that they'd publish CRISMSON EMPIRE III.

grphxkindaguy
10-05-2005, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Faz500
I honestly can't remember where I read it - I probably pieced it together from lots of different sources - the novels, comics, rpg, computer games etc. There's waaaaaaaaaaaay too much Star Wars stuff out there.

I ran a Star Wars RPG a few years ago and ended up doing a lot of research on it.

I agree with you about the Jedi who quit - there's a lot of possibility for further exploration there.

I also wish that they'd publish CRISMSON EMPIRE III.

I wonder if Vader went to the bother of hunting down those rogue jedi, who quit the order. Do you know there's a mini coming out soon, chronicling Vader going after the Jedi who weren't wiped out in ROTS? I forget the name, but Adam Hughes did the first cover to it.

I forget, how did Crimson Empire 2 end again? is there a possibility of a sequel?

Faz500
10-05-2005, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
I forget, how did Crimson Empire 2 end again? is there a possibility of a sequel?

It was meant to be a trilogy. Crimson Empire II ended with a note saying 'to be concluded in CRIMSON EMPIRE III.' Anyone out there know why the third volume was never published?

Zechs
10-05-2005, 05:46 PM
Alright for those who love the bad guys.. here are the aboslute musts for a SW's trades:

UK Trade that featured a great Alan Moore story about Darth Vader

Crimson Empire

Crimson Empire II

Dark Empire

Boba Fett: Enemy of the Empire (WHY? Vader vs Fett baby)
the first Star Wars Tales trades (1-3, and whatever issues have #11 or #8 I'll get to them below)

Darth Maul mini by Ron Marz

Vader's Quest

Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand (written by her creator)

Empire

Ok for Star Wars Tales the first two issues are really a must own now. They have Darth Vader hunt down a former Jedi Council member, the Dark Lady.

It has appearances by Mara Jade and Palpatine is a real sweet Vader tale. There's another two tales later (I think 8 and 11) that again focus on the Big V and flesh out the PT and OT more.

One details the scenes we didn't see in Empire Strikes Back with Vader getting the piled remains of C3PO and recognizing the droid was his.

It's a very nice story that shows Vader being "nice".

But honestly my favorite SW story is in I think #11. I don't know it's name but its best summed up as this: Darth Vader vs. Darth Maul written by Ron Marz.

Pretty much Vader is lured to a planet where the dark side reeks, and is confronted by three prophets of the Sith who deem him unworthy to be a Sith.

They challenge him to a duel: him vs a worthy Sith Lord, a ressurected Darth Maul.

Great story from beginning to end that showcases both Maul's and Vader's postives and negatives in fighting and characterwise.

As for Crimson Empire III if I remember correctly it came out at a time Dark Horse when Dark Horse for a little bit shifted from OT to PT only stories.

Plus in CE II they did introduce a threat to the galaxy that would be followed on more in the books, the Vong.

Guessing CE III was a casuality because of this. Still what is there left to tell in the Crimson Empire saga though? The story did feel finished at the end of II.

Faz500
10-05-2005, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Zechs
Still what is there left to tell in the Crimson Empire saga though? The story did feel finished at the end of II.

Yeah but the final line was 'to be concluded in CE III.' I can live without it but I was just curious as to why it was never published. Thanks for answering my question.

I'd forgotten about the MARA JADE mini - that was very good.

BTW did you actually like DARK EMPIRE??? :confused:

grphxkindaguy
10-05-2005, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by Zechs
Alright for those who love the bad guys.. here are the aboslute musts for a SW's trades:

But honestly my favorite SW story is in I think #11. I don't know it's name but its best summed up as this: Darth Vader vs. Darth Maul written by Ron Marz.



great list, i agree 100% w/it!

i also think that Vader vs Maul story was the best. Great Rick Leonardi artwork IMO...

jedifish
10-05-2005, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by rchilton
I love the X-Wing trades, and they tie in well (but not needed to enjoy) stackpole's novels, which with Zahn's stuff are my favourite SW novels. Great art too.
I only read trades, but I saw a new X-wing comic on the shelves last weekend at the comic shop - anyone have details?

I also read the Empire trades (sad to hear of that series ending) and enjoy Tales.

The first issue of X-Wing Squadon was awesome. So far one of my favorite Star Wars comics over the last few years. Takes place one week after the destruction of Death Star 2.

jedifish
10-05-2005, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by thefellowship12
I have only read one star wars story and that's the Battle Of Jabiim story, great art and great action, it also has quite a lot of emotion, the ending is a bit rushed but I think it's a worthwhile purchase.

I've been wondering have any of The Ostrander Republic stories been good?

The battle of Jamiim got a follow up arc in Empire that just ended that takes place 20 years later with Luke. Pretty good.

I think the John Ostrander/Jan Duursma Republic stories have been some of the best Republic stories out there. He created Aayla Secura (too bad he doesn't get any licensing for her) and Quinlan Voss. His run mainly follows the story of Quinlan Voss.

jedifish
10-05-2005, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
I wonder if Vader went to the bother of hunting down those rogue jedi, who quit the order. Do you know there's a mini coming out soon, chronicling Vader going after the Jedi who weren't wiped out in ROTS? I forget the name, but Adam Hughes did the first cover to it.

I forget, how did Crimson Empire 2 end again? is there a possibility of a sequel?

If anyone is interested, there is a new series from Scholastic called Last of the Jedi which picks up after ROTS. First couple of novels featured Obi-Wan and another character from the Jedi Quest series. There are 2 books out. Pretty good follow-up to the movies so far.

grphxkindaguy
10-05-2005, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by jedifish
The first issue of X-Wing Squadon was awesome. So far one of my favorite Star Wars comics over the last few years. Takes place one week after the destruction of Death Star 2.

great, can't wait to read the mini when its completed. PLEASE tell me NO f'n Ewoks appear...

Besides Wedge, did any of the pilots (of the previous series) of Rogue Squadron appear?

grphxkindaguy
10-06-2005, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by jedifish
I think the John Ostrander/Jan Duursma Republic stories have been some of the best Republic stories out there. He created Aayla Secura (too bad he doesn't get any licensing for her) and Quinlan Voss. His run mainly follows the story of Quinlan Voss.

I agree, those have been excellent stories BUT...you always knew in the back of your mind that the stories would never really change the SW status quo at all...

I really loved the Quinlan Voss character. When I went to WW Chicago this year, Jan Duursema was in artist's row, w/a guy dressed up/looking EXACTLY like Vos. It was eerie. I was in a rush, just looking at everything (in artists row) real quick on my way to a panel. I promised myself to return later to talk to Jan and the Vos model, but when I returned, they were both nowhere to be found. :(

Maybe Vader got 'em? ;)

jedifish
10-06-2005, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
great, can't wait to read the mini when its completed. PLEASE tell me NO f'n Ewoks appear...

Besides Wedge, did any of the pilots (of the previous series) of Rogue Squadron appear?

Well, they are still on Endor, so the Ewoks appear, but they don't have much face time. Tycho, Wedge, Ten Numb, Wes and Luke make up Rogue Squadron by the end of the issue.

And Empire #35 last week was a pretty good stand alone issue. I really enjoyed it.

jedifish
10-06-2005, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
I agree, those have been excellent stories BUT...you always knew in the back of your mind that the stories would never really change the SW status quo at all...

I really loved the Quinlan Voss character. When I went to WW Chicago this year, Jan Duursema was in artist's row, w/a guy dressed up/looking EXACTLY like Vos. It was eerie. I was in a rush, just looking at everything (in artists row) real quick on my way to a panel. I promised myself to return later to talk to Jan and the Vos model, but when I returned, they were both nowhere to be found. :(

Maybe Vader got 'em? ;)

I think in the comic adaptation or the book, it says Quinlan Voss was killed, but I think in the solicits he's alive and being hunted down. So I'm guessing Vader hasn't got him yet.

Michael C Lorah
10-07-2005, 06:11 PM
A few of my favorite Star Wars comics:

Dark Empire - Cam Kennedy is a superior Star Wars artist, and I thought that Tom Veitch (NOT Rick) brought a great sense of honor, tradition and power to the Jedi/Sith. Excellent story. Avoid the sequels, however, at all costs.

Star Wars: A Long Time Ago v.1-3 - the Marvel reprints written primarily by Archie Goodwin. Archie rocks!

Classic Star Wars v.1-3 - The Star Wars daily strips, by Goodwin and THE Star Wars artist, Al Williamson. Great pulpy fun, fast paced, and a nice bridge between ANH and ESB.

Twilight/Darkness/Rite of Passage - Ostrander/Duursema's tales of Quinlan Vos and Aayla Secura. Ostrander is a hell of a writer. Although the Clone Wars volumes don't give him the room to do his best work, he is total money in these mini-series. And Duursema is comics best kept secret. She is a wonderful artist.

Tales of the Jedi - the original only. Tom Veitch gives a real sense of history and tradition to the Republic and the Jedi, and explores the interaction between the two separate groups. The sequels, however, weren't so good. (Dark Lords and Redemption are decent, but the rest are pure trash.)

Heir to the Empire/Dark Force Rising/Last Command - I have hated every Star Wars novel that I've read, except for Zahn's, and although the comic adaptations were not up to the books, Mike Baron did a credible job on the scripts and the art was engaging, particularly the great, much-missed Edvin Biukovic on Last Command.

thefellowship12
10-08-2005, 05:41 PM
The battle of Jamiim got a follow up arc in Empire that just ended that takes place 20 years later with Luke. Pretty good.

I think the John Ostrander/Jan Duursma Republic stories have been some of the best Republic stories out there. He created Aayla Secura (too bad he doesn't get any licensing for her) and Quinlan Voss. His run mainly follows the story of Quinlan Voss.

Which issues was the follow up to the Battle of Jabiim in? I'd really like to know what happens next.

What's the best post ROTJ story, one which features like Luke & co?

jedifish
10-08-2005, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by thefellowship12
Which issues was the follow up to the Battle of Jabiim in? I'd really like to know what happens next.

What's the best post ROTJ story, one which features like Luke & co?

In the Shadow of Their Fathers ran in issues #29-30, 32-34. #31 was a stand alone.

Also, To The Last Man, which ran in Empire #16-18 was a fantastic stormtrooper story. Almost gets you to care about some of the stormtroopers. And for those who enjoyed it, it looks like their will be a 5 issues follow up in #36-40.


This is a link to the
Dark Horse comics (http://www.darkhorse.com/comics/title.php) . I couldn't link to the direct page, but just select Star Wars in the browse box. It looks like every Dark Horse comic is listed, and you can preview most of the new stuff, going back almost 2 years.

grphxkindaguy
10-09-2005, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by jedifish
In the Shadow of Their Fathers ran in issues #29-30, 32-34. #31 was a stand alone.



Was #31 considered a fill-in issue? Did the creative team behind #s 29-30 blow a deadline?!?

I hate when they interrupt an arc like that. Better to just skip a month and give the team more time to finish up...

jedifish
10-15-2005, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by grphxkindaguy
Was #31 considered a fill-in issue? Did the creative team behind #s 29-30 blow a deadline?!?

I hate when they interrupt an arc like that. Better to just skip a month and give the team more time to finish up...

I don't really remember.

Empire #36 this week was awesome though, featuring the return of Lt. Sunber, last seen in #16-18, which is probably one of my favorite Star Wars comic arcs (To the Last Man).

This arc picks up 2 weeks after the conclusion of the previous Jabiim arc. Also, #35, which appeared to be a stand alone issue, actually bridges the gap between the 2 arcs.

I still find it hard to believe I can feel so much sympathy for this Imperial Officer

thefellowship12
10-15-2005, 03:51 PM
Was the Jabiim Arc good?