this is a great idea...

[ElijahSnowFan]

...because those Marvel vs. DC threads, or the company haters who just randomly -- but consistently -- pop up in threads can get on your nerves quickly.

[TTROY]

that they can....... great idea hope this all works out and attracts those posters that have shied away from the main board due to too many boobie and in joke threads

[bob_at_york]

Originally posted by ElijahSnowFan
...because those Marvel vs. DC threads, or the company haters who just randomly -- but consistently -- pop up in threads can get on your nerves quickly.

How does this new setup stop any of that? It doesn't. What the new setup does is it makes sure that the comic related threads don't get bumped off the first page too quick with other threads.

[KSChris]

Looks like I'm gonna be frequenting the DC and Marvel forums until all the childish bullcrap stops at Talk@..

[TTROY]

Originally posted by DaReekstah
Looks like I'm gonna be frequenting the DC and Marvel forums until all the childish bullcrap stops at Talk@..


actually a few of us are finding this all very funny.....

the same things that were told to me and some other people when it was merely suggested.....

we were told to get over it.... Newsarama changes all the time...

and then it happens to them and they can't handle it.... and frankly ---although i have had my moments i have never seen such a display of unruly ten years old that didn't get their way.....

if that offends them i am sorry but wow....

gladd to have you here..

[KSChris]

Originally posted by TTROY
actually a few of us are finding this all very funny.....

the same things that were told to me and some other people when it was merely suggested.....

we were told to get over it.... Newsarama changes all the time...

and then it happens to them and they can't handle it.... and frankly ---although i have had my moments i have never seen such a display of unruly ten years old that didn't get their way.....

if that offends them i am sorry but wow....

gladd to have you here..

The hypocrisy is indeed astounding..

I seriously have never, ever, seen anyone react to ANYTHING.. like these people are reacting to a god damned MESSAGE BOARD. They're acting like Matt hunted them all down, and killed each and every one of their dogs.. or something like that.. :p

[TTROY]

Originally posted by DaReekstah
The hypocrisy is indeed astounding..

I seriously have never, ever, seen anyone react to ANYTHING.. like these people are reacting to a god damned MESSAGE BOARD. They're acting like Matt hunted them all down, and killed each and every one of their dogs.. or something like that.. :p

oh come on remeber the time i bumped all the Austen thread ..the reaction there ....:D :D :D :D


in another thread i was mentioning how sometimes they get way to overboard in little thing that in the end won't mean all that much to the majority of the posters who enjoyed the board the way it was.....---however this is a way i think to get a whole new set of poster at this site who want to and enjoy talkiing about comics........ the board the way it was was very ...inpenatrable for newcomers

[Michael Hawk]

Personally, I don't like this new set-up. I feel that it is harder to navigate around here and will confuse people. Also, there's probably going to be a higher chance for DC zombies and Marvel zombies to post in here. Hopefully, Matt will change it back.

[KSChris]

Originally posted by Michael Hawk
Personally, I don't like this new set-up. I feel that it is harder to navigate around here and will confuse people. Also, there's probably going to be a higher chance for DC zombies and Marvel zombies to post in here. Hopefully, Matt will change it back.

How will it confuse people?

It clearly says DC Comics and Marvel Comics at the top..

[TTROY]

Originally posted by DaReekstah
How will it confuse people?

It clearly says DC Comics and Marvel Comics at the top..

shhhhh don't confuse with facts and logic.....

[Michael Hawk]

Originally posted by DaReekstah
How will it confuse people?

It clearly says DC Comics and Marvel Comics at the top.. Do I post a thread about JLU in the DC forum? Howabout a thread about who's more powerful, Firestorm or Captain Atom? What about a thread comparing the Sentry to Superman?

[Michael Hawk]

Originally posted by TTROY
shhhhh don't confuse with facts and logic..... Is that all you got? Pathetic.

[KSChris]

Originally posted by Michael Hawk
Do I post a thread about JLU in the DC forum? Howabout a thread about who's more powerful, Firestorm or Captain Atom? What about a thread comparing the Sentry to Superman?

Well, JLU is a DC property..

Firestorm and Captain Atom are both DC...

And Sentry vs. Superman is for the general board, thus Talk@.

[Black Terror]

More importantly, where do we post our Young Justice slash fiction, huh?!

WHERE?!?!?!

[KSChris]

Originally posted by Black Terror
More importantly, where do we post our Young Justice slash fiction, huh?!

WHERE?!?!?!

As far away from here as possible. :)

[bob_at_york]

Originally posted by DaReekstah
How will it confuse people?

It clearly says DC Comics and Marvel Comics at the top..

I am not going overboard like others but it will be tougher for me to keep up on all 3 boards. Especially at work.

[KSChris]

Originally posted by bob_at_york
I am not going overboard like others but it will be tougher for me to keep up on all 3 boards. Especially at work.

Thats understandable... as long as you don't forget about the LOST threads! :)

[TTROY]

Originally posted by Michael Hawk
Do I post a thread about JLU in the DC forum? Howabout a thread about who's more powerful, Firestorm or Captain Atom? What about a thread comparing the Sentry to Superman?

yes

[Michael Hawk]

Where do I post the picture I drew of Ronin?

Where will the Joe Friday question thread go?

Why can't people just bump threads about comics if they "love" them so much?

[TTROY]

Originally posted by Michael Hawk
Where do I post the picture I drew of Ronin?

Where will the Joe Friday question thread go?

Why can't people just bump threads about comics if they "love" them so much?

that is why there is still the main board..... see ya there as well.... you are making this much more complicated than it is

[KSChris]

Originally posted by Michael Hawk
Where do I post the picture I drew of Ronin?

Where will the Joe Friday question thread go?

All valid questions, and I'm sure if the layout is kept Matt will answer them.

[Black Terror]

Yeah, comics are for kids and dumb, who cares about them? All those post just in the way of talking about football and stuff.

[ElijahSnowFan]

Originally posted by bob_at_york
I am not going overboard like others but it will be tougher for me to keep up on all 3 boards. Especially at work.

...look, this isn't brain surgery here. i understand people may not like the format, but it's ONE MORE CLICK TO SEE WHAT'S IN THAT FORUM.

good Lord, you'd think that they were putting daily encryption on here -- what this does is 1) make it easier for moderators to spot/ban trolls who only want to post irritating or hateful things;

2) give people who want to talk comics -- which is something that gets lost on the boards a lot -- a specific place to go.

the only people complaining are the people who make sure they make time to derail clearly marked comics threads with politics, sex, company vs. company crap, or flat-out trolling.

it's that simple.

[bob_at_york]

Originally posted by ElijahSnowFan
...look, this isn't brain surgery here. i understand people may not like the format, but it's ONE MORE CLICK TO SEE WHAT'S IN THAT FORUM.

good Lord, you'd think that they were putting daily encryption on here -- what this does is 1) make it easier for moderators to spot/ban trolls who only want to post irritating or hateful things;

2) give people who want to talk comics -- which is something that gets lost on the boards a lot -- a specific place to go.

the only people complaining are the people who make sure they make time to derail clearly marked comics threads with politics, sex, company vs. company crap, or flat-out trolling.

it's that simple.

So.... are you saying I am lying?

[TTROY]

Originally posted by ElijahSnowFan
...look, this isn't brain surgery here. i understand people may not like the format, but it's ONE MORE CLICK TO SEE WHAT'S IN THAT FORUM.

good Lord, you'd think that they were putting daily encryption on here -- what this does is 1) make it easier for moderators to spot/ban trolls who only want to post irritating or hateful things;

2) give people who want to talk comics -- which is something that gets lost on the boards a lot -- a specific place to go.

the only people complaining are the people who make sure they make time to derail clearly marked comics threads with politics, sex, company vs. company crap, or flat-out trolling.

it's that simple.


shhh like i said don'r confuse them with either facts and/or logic...it 'll make it worse

not directed at you bob... but like he said it seems that for some people a high encryption code was installed..

[Randy A]

This whole thing is doing nothing but causing a division in the boards. It sucks and it should be stopped.

[ElijahSnowFan]

Originally posted by bob_at_york
So.... are you saying I am lying?

no, what i'm saying is that if going to a sub-forum in one click to talk about a specific company's comics is harder than going through multiple pages of threads that have topics like politics, sex, movie openings, etc. AND THEN FINDING a comics thread, then obviously our minds work differently, and we can leave it at that.

[TTROY]

Originally posted by hal0
This whole thing is doing nothing but causing a division in the boards. It sucks and it should be stopped.

can you please not post in here if all you are going to do is complain: matt already asked

[TTROY]

Originally posted by TTROY
can you please not post in here if all you are going to do is complain: matt already asked

Why these are here
We’re trying something new here, as Talk@, for better or worse, has become pretty large and can occasionally get overloaded with topics not related to comics. We’ve opened up four new forums: Marvel, DC, Other Publishers, and Movies, and would appreciate you keeping discussions in those forums specifically related to their namesakes.

It’s an experiment, we’ll see if it works, if we need further subdivision, etc.

Of course, the normal rules apply, which can always be boiled down to two simple ones: 1) don’t be a dick, and 2) If you come in looking for, or looking to make trouble, prepare to be booted.

Let’s keep the hating out of the forums, and discuss to your hearts’ content.

Rock and roll.

MattB

[Randy A]

Originally posted by TTROY
can you please not post in here if all you are going to do is complain: matt already asked

hrmm.. your right, this thread is off topic for this forum. And actually my post was on topic for the particular thread. Maybe this thread should be closed and a new one opened in Talk@.

[Michael Hawk]

Originally posted by hal0
This whole thing is doing nothing but causing a division in the boards. It sucks and it should be stopped. "Equal but seperate" my ass. :p

[csGuy]

I for one welcome this change. All the talk@ circle-jerking and randomness and f'ing drama can stay in the incestuous cesspool that is the main non-comics section.

[KSChris]

Originally posted by csGuy
I for one welcome this change. All the talk@ circle-jerking and randomness and f'ing drama can stay in the incestuous cesspool that is the main non-comics section.

Word, brotha.

[csGuy]

Originally posted by DaReekstah
Word, brotha.

I think mattb should move the "reviews" part to be a 4th forum.

[bob_at_york]

Originally posted by DaReekstah
Word, brotha.

aren't you involved in that type of stuff sometimes?

[KSChris]

Originally posted by bob_at_york
aren't you involved in that type of stuff sometimes?

Yep. Once in a while.. hardly as much as most people, but thats no excuse..

I don't see why it should matter if I'm involved in it or not.. for me, personally, it works out great this way. If I want to talk comics, I can use the comics forums. If I want to talk about anything in general, or random stuff.. Talk@.

[TTROY]

Originally posted by DaReekstah
Yep. Once in a while.. hardly as much as most people, but thats no excuse..

I don't see why it should matter if I'm involved in it or not.. for me, personally, it works out great this way. If I want to talk comics, I can use the comics forums. If I want to talk about anything in general, or random stuff.. Talk@.

is it just me or is this not a difficult thing to figure out?

I mean i may have trouble with typos and such but this part is common sense

[KSChris]

Originally posted by TTROY
is it just me or is this not a difficult thing to figure out?

I mean i may have trouble with typos and such but this part is common sense

I don't know.

I'm convinced everyone completely agrees with us, but they're so far into their stubborn fight against the change that they refuse to admit it. :p :p

[csGuy]

Originally posted by DaReekstah
I don't know.

I'm convinced everyone completely agrees with us, but they're so far into their stubborn fight against the change that they refuse to admit it. :p :p


Hopefully they'll have calmed down by monday morning...or maybe the whole first page will be nothing but Righteous Indignation!!! That'd be hilarious, and sad.

[Michael Hawk]

Originally posted by DaReekstah
I don't know.

I'm convinced everyone completely agrees with us, but they're so far into their stubborn fight against the change that they refuse to admit it. :p :p You keep thinking that but just remember one thing, I take my beliefs serious when no one can give me a good reason why they're wrong.

[KSChris]

Originally posted by Michael Hawk
You keep thinking that but just remember one thing, I take my beliefs serious when no one can give me a good reason why they're wrong.

Did you notice the smileys? That wasn't a serious comment.

Your beliefs aren't wrong.

Nobody has given a good reason why mine or TTROY's beliefs are wrong, either...

Because they're opinions. Everyone has them, and they're neither right nor wrong.

[mlk2]

Originally posted by DaReekstah
Did you notice the smileys? That wasn't a serious comment.

Your beliefs aren't wrong.

Nobody has given a good reason why mine or TTROY's beliefs are wrong, either...

Because they're opinions. Everyone has them, and they're neither right nor wrong.

Because that's what other message boards are for! And i wouldn't have a problem with it if it wasn't part of talk@

[TTROY]

Originally posted by mlk2
Because that's what other message boards are for! And i wouldn't have a problem with it if it wasn't part of talk@


oh but they dod give me plenty of reason why the boards shouldn't be changed....... pretty much "well that's is how it used to be" and "resist change" ...frankly this seems to be alot better and i can side step erroneous boobie threads when i need to....


it makes it easy to find comic book related threads on a comic book message board......OMG wow
:D :D :D :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[David Bird]

Originally posted by TTROY
can you please not post in here if all you are going to do is complain: matt already asked

Reading through this thread, the attacks started with this post (I have underlined the objectionable remarks):

Originally posted by ElijahSnowFan
...look, this isn't brain surgery here. i understand people may not like the format, but it's ONE MORE CLICK TO SEE WHAT'S IN THAT FORUM.

good Lord, you'd think that they were putting daily encryption on here -- what this does is 1) make it easier for moderators to spot/ban trolls who only want to post irritating or hateful things;

2) give people who want to talk comics -- which is something that gets lost on the boards a lot -- a specific place to go.

the only people complaining are the people who make sure they make time to derail clearly marked comics threads with politics, sex, company vs. company crap, or flat-out trolling.

it's that simple.

What people don't understand is that this isn't new. I belong to four other forums and they are all divided up like this. The openness is what makes -- made -- Newsarama unique.

[Severance]

Originally posted by TTROY
great idea hope this all works out and attracts those posters that have shied away from the main board due to too many boobie and in joke threads

Couldn't agree more, if I wanted to talk about duct tape (though why anyone would is beyond my comprehension) then I'd find a duct tape forum!! Same with favourite porn stars, opinions on NFL football, whatever else rubbish you had to trawl through on Talk@ to find anything about comics. I presumed that was why people joined a comics forum - to talk and discuss comics, not exclusively but primarily - its the reason I joined.
Now hopefully I'll be able to find the threads I'm actually interested in and joined for.

[cncoyle]

Originally posted by ElijahSnowFan
i understand people may not like the format, but it's ONE MORE CLICK TO SEE WHAT'S IN THAT FORUM.So if my click-y finger falls off, you know who I'm going to send the doctor's bill to!!!:mad:


:p

[Johnny Smith]

Originally posted by Michael Hawk
Where do I post the picture I drew of Ronin?

Where will the Joe Friday question thread go?




The Marvel comics thread?

booya :p

[Amoebas]

Originally posted by csGuy
I think mattb should move the "reviews" part to be a 4th forum.

Or maybe reviews can just be eliminated.

There were a few posters who refused to post reviews in the review section because they found more people joined the discussion in Talk rather than in Review.

This has often lead to duplicate reviews in different areas.

Since reviews are wholly DC/Marvel/Indy related they would fit better in the new areas established (JLAvengers type books being a rare exception).

Even Matt in his sidebar stated that these new areas can be for discussions on specific titles. Let's take it one step further and add specific issues of specific titles.

Overall I'm not too thrilled with the new direction here - but "adopt, adapt and improve" as Dennis Moore used to say.

[csGuy]

Originally posted by Amoebas
Or maybe reviews can just be eliminated.

There were a few posters who refused to post reviews in the review section because they found more people joined the discussion in Talk rather than in Review.

This has often lead to duplicate reviews in different areas.

Since reviews are wholly DC/Marvel/Indy related they would fit better in the new areas established (JLAvengers type books being a rare exception).

Even Matt in his sidebar stated that these new areas can be for discussions on specific titles. Let's take it one step further and add specific issues of specific titles.

Overall I'm not too thrilled with the new direction here - but "adopt, adapt and improve" as Dennis Moore used to say.


you bring up some good points, there tends to be very few posters in the reviews section compared to talk@. Though i wonder why more people from talk@ don't check out the reviews section? it is pretty good if you want to read about specific comics.

[cncoyle]

Originally posted by csGuy
Though i wonder why more people from talk@ don't check out the reviews section? it is pretty good if you want to read about specific comics. I check it out from time to time, but the Reviews section doesn't lend itself to interesting discussion. I don't know if the reviewers keep it too academic, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of interaction, just commentary. So, the main reason I don't frequent the Reviews section is that it's just so dry.