View Full Version : KORDEY'S X-TREME X-MEN #25
MattBrady
04-15-2003, 02:35 PM
<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/XXM025009.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/XXM025009_t.jpg" width="175" height="273" border="0" hspace="2" align="right" alt="X-Treme X-Men #25, page 9"></a>From Marvel
<blockquote>It's official. As has been previously reported on the Internet comics news sites in the last month, artist Igor Kordey IS the newest regular penciller of Chris Claremont's X-TREME X-MEN, and Kordey begins his run with the special "GOD LOVES, MAN KILLS II" story arc beginning in May's X-TREME X-MEN #25.
NAMOR artist and former X-TREME penciler Salvador Larroca will provide covers for the five-part storyline.
"In addition to being one of the most dynamic storytellers in comics, like any great artist Igor is extremely versatile, expertly tailoring his work to needs of the story he's illustrating," said Marvel Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada. "Igor's been blowing everyone here away with his new style and interpretation of this important event in X-Men history, the sequel to arguably the one of the greatest graphic novels ever published, and inspiration to next month's X2 blockbuster.
"Igor Kordey fans are going to want to check out what's turning into some of the best work of his career, and current X-TREME X-MEN fans are going to have the pleasure of enjoying the work of yet another great artist."
X-TREME X-MEN #25 goes on sale May 7th, and retailers are reminded its Final Order Cut-off date is Thursday, May 17th. Readers, ask your local retailer to reserve a copy.
X-TREME X-MEN #26, part 2 of "GOD LOVES, MAN KILLS II", goes on sale May 28th.</blockquote>
<center> <a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/XXM025013.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/XXM025013_t.jpg" width="165" height="248" border="0" hspace="2" alt="X-Treme X-Men #25, page 13"></a><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/XXM025014.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/XXM025014_t.jpg" width="165" height="248" border="0" hspace="2" alt="X-Treme X-Men #25, page 14"></a><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/XXM025015.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/XXM025015_t.jpg" width="165" height="248" border="0" hspace="2" alt="X-Treme X-Men #25, page 15"></a></center>
KingStalin
04-15-2003, 02:45 PM
well shit. this art is a hell of a lot better than anything kordey has done before, why did i drop this title? sigh
scion09
04-15-2003, 02:54 PM
The preview art looks MUCH better than Kordey's New X-Men art....but I still don't like it at all. X-Treme X-Men will be dropped from my pull list once I get #24 and will remain dropped until it gets a good artist again.
Jason Galvin
04-15-2003, 03:37 PM
Holy crap! That doesn't look anything like his vomit inducing art on New X-men or Black Widow. The coloring really helps a lot. I'm still not impressed though. I'll wait until I see the actual comic before I make further judgement.
But I still don't get what Marvel is thinking. Kordey is such a drastic switch from the crisp art of Larroca (who I am not a fan of). They should have gotten Juan Bobillo to take over on X-treme X-men. His art was excellet & quite similar to Larocca's style on the recent Mekanix mini-series.
jawaplumber
04-15-2003, 03:45 PM
I'm happy to see Igor turning some heads back in his favor. I thought it was a shame that he was being judged by the mainstream for his work on NEW X-MEN, as fans like myself of his earlier work knew he was capable of so much more when he wasn't rushed to fill-in for Frank Quitely. Congrats all around!
J.C. Bakken
04-15-2003, 03:45 PM
Well, whattayaknow.
This looks pretty good. And it's great to see Cannonball there, and Kitty so soon after the events of MekaniX.
This should not be so bad after all, allthough I will miss Salva.
kingofcities
04-15-2003, 03:48 PM
I dig the Igor Kordey art (I even liked the New X-Men stuff). It's the same old Claremont retread stories that will keep me away from this one unfortunately.
Kurt Avery
04-15-2003, 04:15 PM
Too bad. This work doesn't look nearly as good as his stuff on CABLE or NEW X-MEN. Sad to see so many people didn't like that work. I found it to be really exciting, energetic, spontaneous.
This just looks very bland, and inked by someone other than Kordey, maybe? His stuff looks best when he inks it himself.
Kurt Avery
MindTricked
04-15-2003, 04:27 PM
I just wish his stuff looked this good on (New)X-Men. This style was much more suited to that book than the style he was using, which was great for Cable/Soldier X. I'm pleasantly surprised, and that's a good thing.
QCCBob
04-15-2003, 04:35 PM
I don't get it. This looks nothing like any of his previous work, not that it's all that good. Is this just an attempt to gently ease him in by attempting a more traditional look or was he just crapping out everything else?
pmpknface
04-15-2003, 04:44 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KingStalin:
<strong>well shit. this art is a hell of a lot better than anything kordey has done before, why did i drop this title? sigh</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">To get the trade, of course! :D
Quattro
04-15-2003, 05:06 PM
Wow...MUCH better than anything Kordey's ever drawn before. I don't really care for the style, but the art is readable (unlike Kordey's vomit-inducing NXM and Cable/SX work).
Oh, and Kurt Avery nailed it when he said Kordey didn't ink it himself...an earlier article mentioned that Scott Hanna will be inking Kordey's work. Personally, I think Scott Hanna is the reason the art looks almost nothing like Kordey's earlier stuff (and IMO, that translates into much better than Kordey's earlier stuff).
jawaplumber
04-15-2003, 05:07 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by QCCBob:
<strong>I don't get it. This looks nothing like any of his previous work, not that it's all that good. Is this just an attempt to gently ease him in by attempting a more traditional look or was he just crapping out everything else?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This has been explained many times before. Kordey was brought in at nearly the last minute to fill-in on the NEW X-MEN issues, and he wasn't capable of working at his fullest potential.
Mike Cruz
04-15-2003, 05:08 PM
You know, Kordey's in a tough spot: he still hasn't shaken the taint that his work is substandard. Well, it's not. And the only real reason that his New X-Men art didn't work is because Quitely couldn't finish the job on time and Kordey barely had enough time to finish what Quitely had started.
(Mind you, Quitely did the responsible thing; he realized his limitations and got the hell off New X-Men.)
Now I can't say that I'm fan of Kordey's because outside of New X-Men, I don't know his work. But fair is fair and the samples of what I've seen of his work on this website suggest that Kordey is capable of a depth and range that nearly none of us has seen or experienced.
I look forward to picking up this title to see what he has in store for this audience.
-Mike
Hunter Zero
04-15-2003, 05:11 PM
I just can't belive how different his art looks here from the garbage scribbles he did on New X-Men. This looks really good. Maybe I will have to give this title another look.
grphxkindaguy
04-15-2003, 05:19 PM
wow, Kordey's stuff looks great IMO. Let's see if the story is as well....
I for one am thrilled to see Cannonball return to the X-Men fold.
He's one character who was ALWAYS meant to become an X-Man....
grphxkindaguy
04-15-2003, 05:28 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mike Cruz:
<strong>
(Mind you, Quitely did the responsible thing; he realized his limitations and got the hell off New X-Men.)
-Mike</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">is Quitely FINALLY off New X-Men, or what?
Is 'Riot at Xavier's' his last run on the book?
Please let it be so. I don't know what's worse, his mediocre art or Morrison's stories...
I count the issues until they're BOTH gone from the book... :mad:
Larry Wong
04-15-2003, 05:41 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Kurt Avery:
<strong>Too bad. This work doesn't look nearly as good as his stuff on CABLE or NEW X-MEN. Sad to see so many people didn't like that work. I found it to be really exciting, energetic, spontaneous.
This just looks very bland, and inked by someone other than Kordey, maybe? His stuff looks best when he inks it himself.
Kurt Avery</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Picked up the last X-Men trade and was really disappointed with the artists that came after him. His layouts are phenomenal. I loved that shot of the team climbing up a circular staircase to the X-Jet launch pad.
Anyone that wants to see his work at its best, pick up the Batman/Tarzan trade.
The Marvel
04-15-2003, 06:07 PM
I've been a fan of Kordey for a while now, but this art for X-Treme is...
Wow.
This is really incredible. Kordey's outdone himself here. I hope he stays on the book for a long time to come.
And why is everyone haterizing on Kordey's art here? Sure, Salva's art is great and it's sad they forcibly moved him to NAMOR, especially since it will be "plotted" by Bill Jemas, the non-writer and creator of the whole Marville debacle (which, coincidentally, wasted the talents of another great artist: Doc Bright - God that book sucked).
Anyway, if these preview pages are any indication, Kordey's outdone himself here and I commend him.
And as for everyone who's blasting these pages, do these three things:
1) Go find a copy (if one exists) of Rob Liefeld's latest Youngblood endeavor - there should never be more than one issue of any of his given series, so it won't cost much (any Liefeld book will do, though).
2) Force yourself to look at every last panel of said issue.
3) Pull your gun away from your head, wipe away your tears, and pick up these issues of X-Treme - then commence enjoying them with new eyes.
IanZL
04-15-2003, 06:15 PM
You know I really hope Kordey has done this on his own accord. I am a fan of his and perfer to see him when he isn't aping someone elses style (here and in those New X-men issues). I just hope that this was his own decision and he didn't sell out just to get more work. Now if they can get him to do some painted covers (and a new writer) this book could be worth something.
kingofcities
04-15-2003, 06:19 PM
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You know I really hope Kordey has done this on his own accord. I am a fan of his and perfer to see him when he isn't aping someone elses style (here and in those New X-men issues). I just hope that this was his own decision and he didn't sell out just to get more work. Now if they can get him to do some painted covers (and a new writer) this book could be worth something.
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I agree about Kordey, but Morrison rules. Sorry!
OcCaM
04-15-2003, 06:40 PM
Almost looks like he was trying to emulate Salvador's artwork.
Anyway, capable stuff, not highly impressed though. Even Salvador's artwork couldn't keep me on Xtreme and this isn't likely to change my mind about this horrible title.
Dan20
04-15-2003, 07:08 PM
Still not feeling any better about Salva being pushed off this book.
But as most people here are saying, Kordey's art does look like his quality stuff (i.e., Black Widow) and not his really poor stuff (i.e., New X-Men).
Spikey_Jim
04-15-2003, 07:50 PM
Shit. I was sorta hoping Igor would be painting. 'Spose he hasn't really had enough warning.
I don't think the colours being that bright really go with his art work.
Ah well.
Spikey_Jim
Captain Temerity
04-15-2003, 08:06 PM
This really doesn't help or hinder my decision not to buy the X-Treme X-Men book, because, frankly, I hate the writing.
Mekanix was a far, FAR better effort from Clairemont than I've seen in years. And I'm a total fan of the "once was" Clairemont era of X-Men. X-Treme would be more my preference for the fact that it's straightforward X-Men style of stories, more like I remember them. But he just can't pull it together in those pages.
Kitty's return would get me to look at the trade, when it hits. Maybe I'll toss my money that way then. But for now... New artist, old artist, George Freakin' Perez, I just can't read the damned thing.
QCCBob
04-15-2003, 08:09 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jawaplumber:
[QBThis has been explained many times before. Kordey was brought in at nearly the last minute to fill-in on the NEW X-MEN issues, and he wasn't capable of working at his fullest potential.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'd buy it on New X-Men, but there wasn't a noticeably difference between it and Cable/Soldier X. Besides, when have they ever cared about schedules anyway?
Kabukiman
04-15-2003, 09:01 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Hunter Zero:
<strong>I just can't belive how different his art looks here from the garbage scribbles he did on New X-Men.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, he's capable of at least a couple different styles, it would seem, since his NXM work was also very different from his Cable work. I personally prefere his Cable work to his NXM work, but I prefer both over this. They've taken his interesting, distinct style and completely homogenized it. What's the point of having an artist like Kordey if you're going to completely remove any remnant of his style of art. Why not just get David Ross or someone whose art is already bland?
xerossilence
04-15-2003, 09:48 PM
was really makes me wonder is what differences you all seem to see in this art compaired to his new xmen work. i think they look the same, with the exception of the colors. i loved Salvador. i love kordey, from his new xmen to soldier x to blakc widow. there is just something really nice and original about his art. something somehow unreplecatable. and although havent been picking up xtreme xmen before, i will definately pick it up now.
Xero
jawaplumber
04-15-2003, 10:14 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by QCCBob:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jawaplumber:
[QBThis has been explained many times before. Kordey was brought in at nearly the last minute to fill-in on the NEW X-MEN issues, and he wasn't capable of working at his fullest potential.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'd buy it on New X-Men, but there wasn't a noticeably difference between it and Cable/Soldier X. Besides, when have they ever cared about schedules anyway?[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I never saw his work on Cable or Solider X, but I DO know his Batman/Tarzan was light years ahead of his New X-Men. Anyone who has seen Batman/Tarzan can testify to this.
jawaplumber
04-15-2003, 10:21 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by The Marvel:
<strong>...NAMOR, especially since it will be "plotted" by Bill Jemas, the non-writer and creator of the whole Marville debacle...
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...and the co-"plotter" of the early issues of ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN, as well as the entire ORIGIN miniseries. I've never read MARVILLE nor do I care to because it appears childish and absurd, but Jemas has certainly proved himself in the role of co-"plotter" during the early stages of a series, like ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN (I use quotes around "plotter" because what he does isn't even like traditional comic book plotting, it's really just several paragraphs of what he'd like to see happen in each issue...check the extras in the first USM hardcover to see what I mean). It's the same role he'll be filling on NAMOR, and will also be bowing out of that series after the first arc or so. Just thought I would point this out, as it seems a lot of folks forget or don't know the true extent (or lack thereof) of Jemas' involvment in NAMOR. Not saying you are one of those folks, The Marvel (sorry, calling you just "Marvel" sounded funny), but thought I would take the opportunity you presented :)
Spikey_Jim
04-15-2003, 10:32 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jawaplumber:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by The Marvel:
<strong>...NAMOR, especially since it will be "plotted" by Bill Jemas, the non-writer and creator of the whole Marville debacle...
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...and the co-"plotter" of the early issues of ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN, as well as the entire ORIGIN miniseries. I've never read MARVILLE nor do I care to because it appears childish and absurd, but Jemas has certainly proved himself in the role of co-"plotter" during the early stages of a series, like ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN (I use quotes around "plotter" because what he does isn't even like traditional comic book plotting, it's really just several paragraphs of what he'd like to see happen in each issue...check the extras in the first USM hardcover to see what I mean). It's the same role he'll be filling on NAMOR, and will also be bowing out of that series after the first arc or so. Just thought I would point this out, as it seems a lot of folks forget or don't know the true extent (or lack thereof) of Jemas' involvment in NAMOR. Not saying you are one of those folks, The Marvel (sorry, calling you just "Marvel" sounded funny), but thought I would take the opportunity you presented :) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've got three words for that arguement "Brian Michael Bendis". This bloke he's doing Namor with may be Milton reincarnated, but I wouldn't bet your house on it...
dogisred
04-15-2003, 10:33 PM
You know...I had heard several people say that Kordey's work on New X-Men was rushed...and i did look at some of his work in Batman/Tarzan and Soldier X, but still wasn't impressed. He has a clean style, but not a style that would make me NOT long for Salvador. The pages look a lot better before you click on them and increase the size. I'll still buy the issues, and I'll still read them, and then I'll hope Salvador's run on Namor will be over and he'll be back where he belongs.
Just to make this clear, so no one misinterprets what I am saying...I like the pages represented here by Kordey, but I'm still not thrilled with them. I would still prefer to see Salvador drawing this story.
jawaplumber
04-15-2003, 11:02 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Spikey_Jim:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jawaplumber:
<strong> [QUOTE]...and the co-"plotter" of the early issues of ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN, as well as the entire ORIGIN miniseries. I've never read MARVILLE nor do I care to because it appears childish and absurd, but Jemas has certainly proved himself in the role of co-"plotter" during the early stages of a series, like ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN (I use quotes around "plotter" because what he does isn't even like traditional comic book plotting, it's really just several paragraphs of what he'd like to see happen in each issue...check the extras in the first USM hardcover to see what I mean). It's the same role he'll be filling on NAMOR, and will also be bowing out of that series after the first arc or so. Just thought I would point this out, as it seems a lot of folks forget or don't know the true extent (or lack thereof) of Jemas' involvment in NAMOR. Not saying you are one of those folks, The Marvel (sorry, calling you just "Marvel" sounded funny), but thought I would take the opportunity you presented :) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've got three words for that arguement "Brian Michael Bendis". This bloke he's doing Namor with may be Milton reincarnated, but I wouldn't bet your house on it...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, first of all, I wasn't trying to argue in Jemas' favor, I was just making a point :) Also, why WOULDN'T you bet on Andi Watson being a good writer? How much do you know about him? All I've ever heard are positive reports about the guy via the indy press.
Spikey_Jim
04-15-2003, 11:21 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jawaplumber:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Spikey_Jim:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jawaplumber:
<strong> [QUOTE]...and the co-"plotter" of the early issues of ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN, as well as the entire ORIGIN miniseries. I've never read MARVILLE nor do I care to because it appears childish and absurd, but Jemas has certainly proved himself in the role of co-"plotter" during the early stages of a series, like ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN (I use quotes around "plotter" because what he does isn't even like traditional comic book plotting, it's really just several paragraphs of what he'd like to see happen in each issue...check the extras in the first USM hardcover to see what I mean). It's the same role he'll be filling on NAMOR, and will also be bowing out of that series after the first arc or so. Just thought I would point this out, as it seems a lot of folks forget or don't know the true extent (or lack thereof) of Jemas' involvment in NAMOR. Not saying you are one of those folks, The Marvel (sorry, calling you just "Marvel" sounded funny), but thought I would take the opportunity you presented :) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've got three words for that arguement "Brian Michael Bendis". This bloke he's doing Namor with may be Milton reincarnated, but I wouldn't bet your house on it...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, first of all, I wasn't trying to argue in Jemas' favor, I was just making a point :) Also, why WOULDN'T you bet on Andi Watson being a good writer? How much do you know about him? All I've ever heard are positive reports about the guy via the indy press.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've heard positive reports, but not Bendis (this is the only way anything good will come out of this) good.
"You got your problems, I got my hash Pipe"
Aaron Weisbrod
04-15-2003, 11:30 PM
Wow... Kordey's art actually looks pretty darn decent here! Maybe that cat *really* can draw after all... :p
More importantly, did anyone else notice that it looks as if Wolverine's annoying goatee/soulpatch is seemingly gone? YAY!!!
Prioritizin',
Aaron Weisbrod
Redmond
04-15-2003, 11:57 PM
Haha poor Igor, he can never get a break from fans. I liked his stuff on NewXMen, but this is a bit too sanitized for me. Where are all his dirty textures? It gave his work a grim, organic look.
NicholasWyche
04-16-2003, 12:25 AM
Sigh... A great artist enslaved to a crappy title and forced to water down his art for the benefit of near-sighted blinkards. Oh well, that's the price of making your living as an artist I guess.
NicholasWyche
04-16-2003, 12:32 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Spikey_Jim:
I've heard positive reports, but not Bendis (this is the only way anything good will come out of this) good.
"You got your problems, I got my hash Pipe"[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Then here, I'll give you one. I am, personally, a huge Brian Bendis fan. POWERS is one of my must-read titles every month, and I am someone who feels the superhero genre is one of the most stunted and immature genres around. Having said that, I would rather read the most trivial and worst-written Andi Watson story over the best Bendis story any day.
Bendis is a talented and intelligent genre writer. He does excellent crime comics, extremely readable and enjoyable super hero comics (he is still the only writer who could make me the slightest big interested in Spider-Man.) But he is still, for the most part, a genre writer.
Andi Watson has proven that he can write anything, genre or straight fiction, in the comic form and do it well. Not just well, but truly exceptionally. The only thing I fear is that he may not be enough of a politician to tell Jemas when to stick it in his ear.
Having said that, though, I will probably be skipping NAMOR in favor of Andi's solo writing on QUEST. When they were seeming to attempt to make NAMOR more of a shojo manga-type title I was interested. But with the placement of an artist who I find completely uninteresting (Salvadodr Llarocca) on the title, I fear that Marvel is caving into fan pressure to make the book more accessible to superhero fans.
QUEST, on the other hand, looks like it's right up Andi's alley and I am looking forward to it greatly.
KingStalin
04-16-2003, 01:52 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by pmpknface:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KingStalin:
<strong>well shit. this art is a hell of a lot better than anything kordey has done before, why did i drop this title? sigh</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">To get the trade, of course! :D </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL, actually when i first dropped it i siad if GLMK2 was any good I'd get the trade. the only reason i bother collecting the monthly x titles is becaus ei have every single isuse of new since issue 1 and uncanny since the mid 100's. it's hard to break up those collections.
Cray_ws
04-16-2003, 04:08 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KingStalin:
<strong>LOL, actually when i first dropped it i siad if GLMK2 was any good I'd get the trade. the only reason i bother collecting the monthly x titles is becaus ei have every single isuse of new since issue 1 and uncanny since the mid 100's. it's hard to break up those collections.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thats pathetic....So your admitting that you own a few crappy issues of New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men...because your too weak or blind to have any integrity?
So if the next issue of Uncanny X-Men has art drawn with crayons and story by a intelluctually-impaired writer, your still gonna buyer it out fear of breaking your run?
If you remotely feel this way you have problem and need to get outta comics for awhile, and come back when your head is cleared of "collectorism"
Don't take all this harshly.
comicpanther
04-16-2003, 09:01 AM
Looks great
Dredded
04-16-2003, 10:00 AM
I was never a huge fan of this title. I thought Claremont had passed his prime as a writer. But the art WAS great. Now I am glad I dropped this book. Now that this book has crap art, it won;t last very long, even with an 'X' in the title. How someone this bad gets to draw characters as good as X-Men, I will never know. This is, of course, my opinion. You don't have to agree or disagree...
thebeast
04-16-2003, 10:04 AM
The new art does look good, but I only really bought it for Larrocca's art.
Kordey is a strange one. His art can look really good sometimes and rubbish the next. It could be that he seems to be prolific penciller so Marvel had him do fill-in alongside his Soldier-X, and his art looked rushed. If they let him settle on X-Treme it could be great.
dr.no
04-16-2003, 12:32 PM
Kordey's art is better than I thought. Not to mention the writing of Claremont that keeps getting better and better with each issue.
This book stays on my list.
Kabukiman
04-16-2003, 02:14 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by QCCBob:
<strong>I'd buy it on New X-Men, but there wasn't a noticeably difference between it and Cable/Soldier X.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Are you kidding me? Did you actually see his art in Cable/Soldier X? It was almost a completely different style from New X-Men. IMHO, you are crazy if you think they looked the same.
xerossilence
04-16-2003, 11:11 PM
everytime i come back to look at this art i like it less and less. im not an anti kordey guy: just the opposite. but i think this work is too sedated comepared to his new x men and soldier x work. that seemed more original. either way, as great as artists can be, it seems noone is reading this book for the story. every one of you sem to say, im dropping it because the only reason i bought is was the art. doesnt story matter to anyone anymore??
Xero
wraith
04-17-2003, 08:34 PM
While his XXN art does'nt look as good as Sal's, it does look a whole hell of a lot better then his previous work. In fact, I'll say his art on XXM looks pretty good. I do, however, hate the new crappy (NXM) costumes he has designed for the xteme team.
littlewolvie
04-18-2003, 04:10 AM
Mmmmm... I hate to admit it and while it's still no Larroca, this doesn't look bad at all.
Kurt Avery
04-19-2003, 01:51 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by grphxkindaguy:
<strong>Please let it be so. I don't know what's worse, his mediocre art or Morrison's stories...
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Are you kidding? NEW X-MEN is one of Marvel's best, and the book's better than it has been since the late '70s, at least.
The price of admission on "Riot at Xavier's" alone is worth buying the whole series thus far. The series just keeps getting better and better. I've been a huge fan of Morrison's since the early days, but his NXM has been some of his best mainstream work yet.
Kurt Avery
Christoph
05-02-2003, 02:21 PM
But why are Storm and Bishop in the New X-Men uniforms? I hate those "costumes" - the ones they have been wearing in XXM have been the best, I really hope they go back to them soon.
stlfan79
05-02-2003, 09:20 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KingStalin:
<strong>well shit. this art is a hell of a lot better than anything kordey has done before, why did i drop this title? sigh</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Kordey has always been a god artist he was just spread a little thin before. Now that he gets to focus on one book for one assignment I think you will all be plesantly suprised.
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