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MattBrady

04-02-2003, 09:53 PM

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<blockquote>Heard any good NAMOR news stories lately?? Marvel's new April-debuting ongoing series may have gotten off to an eventful and notorious start in its publishing life, but with superstar artist Salvador Larroca now firmly installed as penciler, and guided by co-writer's Bill Jemas and Andi Watson, NAMOR is poised to be one of 2003's most unexpected, and surprising new titles. And with a cover price of just 25-cents for NAMOR #1, every comic fan can be in on the surprise.

"Namor #1 has surpassed everyone's expectations on every level," said editor C.B. Cebulski. "Salva has crafted an undersea world that is mesmerizing to look at. Mixed with Danny Miki's fine inks and J.D. Smith's amazing color palette, Prince Namor's Atlantis kingdom truly comes alive. The characters and action flow off the pages into the hands of the reader.

"Bill and Andi have also granted us a wonderful peak into the life of young Namor. Readers see him start as a mischievous young boy and follow him into manhood, giving us a candid look into Namor's youth that rings true with the Sub-Mariner of today that fans know and love. We're drawn into his life in Atlantis and the personal relationships that shaped him into the fiery hero he is today."

NAMOR #1 by Bill Jemas & Andi Watson and Salvador Larroca goes on sale April 30th with a cover price of just 25-cents, and retailers are reminded its Final Order Cut-off date is Thursday, April 10th. Namor #2 goes on sale May 21st! Readers, ask your retailers to reserve you a copy!</blockquote>

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jawaplumber

04-02-2003, 10:18 PM

I don't care what the naysayers may think. I have a feeling NAMOR is going to be an exceptional comic book. No, I'm not saying it's the next Ultimate Spidey, but I do think it's going to be highly entertaining. Obviously, NAMOR will be easy on the eyes, as well. Salva is fantastic!

Cloak & Dagger

04-02-2003, 10:41 PM

The colouring is simply stellar. It makes the images just so easy to look at.

Sal may not like his situation or he may not think he suits this book, but I think he's a better fit for Namor than X-Treme X-Men. He tended to over-accessorize the X-Men.

Gelogurte

04-02-2003, 10:49 PM

I was curious about this book. Andi Watson is great but I couldn't understand why Bill Jemas was sharing the writing duties. Anyway, I got curious but the art wasn't grabbing me. I don't know, it just didn't seem right, it didn't fit.

And then comes Salvador Larroca. In the end I don't know if Mr Larroca is satisfied about this but I can honestly say that he should actually walk in the Marvel offices screaming:

"HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAAAAAAAY!"

Thanks, Mr Larroca! Thank you so much!

Zeb Oswalt

04-02-2003, 11:21 PM

I just hope he stays the Egotistical Character that he was in his last few Comics. And doesn't get "Petter Parkered". I like Namor as the snotty Character he's supposed to be. It could be very cool. Thanx for your time.

Jonas.Vesterlund

04-02-2003, 11:52 PM

Jemas is the best writer Marvel has ever had. He went to Harward. He used to work with trading cards. Of course this book will rock!

:-/

dogisred

04-02-2003, 11:56 PM

This book looks like it will be beautiful...I won't pass judgement on the writing until I read it, but I WILL be reading it.

xerossilence

04-03-2003, 12:02 AM

im going to pretend i never heard anything from jonas. im bad with people being fesesious, so forgive me.

im really excited about this book, Namor is the greatest character ever and im soooooo happy to see the old artist gone. she was reallly bad. sal is great and i like watson. im just hoping jemas is the silent partner he was in ultimate spiderman. please dont make his a nice guy!!

Xero

Hdefined

04-03-2003, 01:06 AM

Why is there a naked 7-year-old picture of Namor? Is this that marketing-for-female-readers thing at work?

I'm still not interested, although I think I have a quarter to spare somewhere . . .

Beyerstein

04-03-2003, 01:34 AM

Marvels turning Namor into the Little Mermaid

Cray_ws

04-03-2003, 04:56 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by dogisred:
This book looks like it will be beautiful...I won't pass judgement on the writing until I read it, but I WILL be reading it.<hr /></blockquote>What is there to read?.....its a bunch pretty pictures, there's plenty of other books with great art andstory.

Of course I'll wait till the trade hits the shelf to make my judgement, I'm in no hurry.

jawaplumber

04-03-2003, 07:37 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Gelogurte:
I was curious about this book. Andi Watson is great but I couldn't understand why Bill Jemas was sharing the writing duties. Anyway, I got curious but the art wasn't grabbing me. I don't know, it just didn't seem right, it didn't fit.
<hr /></blockquote>Well, first of all, Bill Jemas and Andi Watson aren't sharing the writing duties, not in the traditional sense. Jemas is just doing as he did with ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN. He's providing a rough and "bare bones" layout for how he wants the plot of the first few issues to go. If you want an idea of how this is done, just check out the extras in first hardcover volume of ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN. It isn't even full plotting, not in the way most co-writers of comics do it. And, again, as with ULTIMATE SPIDEY, Jemas is going to step off the book completely after the first six issues or so. The truth is, this really isn't much different than the genesis of many comic book titles. Editors can have such a direct role in the plotting, especially during the early stages of a series. Not always, but sometimes. It just is rarely talked about or credited for the public's knowledge.

Taltos

04-03-2003, 09:39 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by dogisred:
This book looks like it will be beautiful...I won't pass judgement on the writing until I read it, but I WILL be reading it.<hr /></blockquote>I hope you mean "I WILL be reading {the first issue}." What if you pass judgement and it's a terrible book? Will you continue to read it just because it's "the next big thing?"

Hdefined

04-03-2003, 03:30 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by jawaplumber:
Well, first of all, Bill Jemas and Andi Watson aren't sharing the writing duties, not in the traditional sense. Jemas is just doing as he did with ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN. He's providing a rough and "bare bones" layout for how he wants the plot of the first few issues to go. If you want an idea of how this is done, just check out the extras in first hardcover volume of ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN. It isn't even full plotting, not in the way most co-writers of comics do it. And, again, as with ULTIMATE SPIDEY, Jemas is going to step off the book completely after the first six issues or so. The truth is, this really isn't much different than the genesis of many comic book titles. Editors can have such a direct role in the plotting, especially during the early stages of a series. Not always, but sometimes. It just is rarely talked about or credited for the public's knowledge.<hr /></blockquote>Do you know this for a fact, or is this just what you're assuming?

Monkey in a Wheelchair

04-03-2003, 05:27 PM

Jemas said he's doing the rough layouts for the writing, not the actual script. It's like when Sean McKeever was fed the idea for 'Sentinal' He digested it and gave us something wonderful.

I think that's how 'Sentinel' happened. Ask Sean.

The first 2 issues of Namor will be my guide. The first one's a quarter. I'll pay for yours if you want.
-- chip

jawaplumber

04-03-2003, 05:27 PM

To HDefined: Do you mean do I know Jemas' role for certain, or the part about editors' silent involvement in the plotting of a comic? Actually, I know both for certain. I know the bit about Jemas because this is what he, Andi Watson and others at Marvel have said about the extent of Jemas' contribution to NAMOR. It's been documented in several interviews on several websites. As for editors, I've personally known several writers in comics over the years and they've recounted their personal experiences to me regarding how much or how little of their own comics they get to write at times. For example, Bob Harras had quite a heavy hand during his tenure at Marvel. He directly rewrote more comics than most realize.

DCD

04-04-2003, 02:36 AM

The Art is spectacular!!!

It's the writing that I'm a little unsure about... but I'll give it a chance...

dogisred

04-05-2003, 08:19 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Taltos:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by dogisred:
This book looks like it will be beautiful...I won't pass judgement on the writing until I read it, but I WILL be reading it.<hr /></blockquote>I hope you mean "I WILL be reading {the first issue}." What if you pass judgement and it's a terrible book? Will you continue to read it just because it's "the next big thing?"<hr /></blockquote>Hell no. If the first issue blows, well then, the first issue will be the only one I get, but I love the character (always have) and I like Salvador's work. I am giving it an honest chance to impress me...that's it. I'm way past picking something up just because other people think it is "hot". I'm a reader, not a collector.

dogisred

04-05-2003, 08:29 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by jawaplumber:
To HDefined: Do you mean do I know Jemas' role for certain, or the part about editors' silent involvement in the plotting of a comic? Actually, I know both for certain. I know the bit about Jemas because this is what he, Andi Watson and others at Marvel have said about the extent of Jemas' contribution to NAMOR. It's been documented in several interviews on several websites. As for editors, I've personally known several writers in comics over the years and they've recounted their personal experiences to me regarding how much or how little of their own comics they get to write at times. For example, Bob Harras had quite a heavy hand during his tenure at Marvel. He directly rewrote more comics than most realize.<hr /></blockquote>Jemas has stated several times on this site that his role as the writer is limited to plotting...with Watson. He said something to the effect that Marville proved to him that he is not a writer...something we all already knew...but he's man enough to admit it.

Writing comic books is a little like writing songs, as far a credit is concerned. A guy can be hired to play the guitar for a few tracks on a CD for a guy, and if he "alters" the song enough...adds his own touches to the song, he gets song writing credit. Same thing with comics...Roy Thomas started giving credit to his wife, Dann, when he was writing because he said that he would talk with her about the things he was writing and taking her suggestions and she deserved credit for her contributions...editors are uncredited writers in many of the books. I know that PAD left X-Factor years ago because Harras was trying to re-write PAD's work, or trying to force PAD to write certain stories. Some writers can work that way, others can't.

Forgot my point...oh yeah...damn ADHD is kicking in...how much an editor is involved in the storytelling going on depends on the writer and the editor, but they usually have input.