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MattBrady

08-10-2005, 11:43 AM

Marvel Comics has released their usual selection of Tuesday 6-page previews, but a day later than usual this time.

Below are previews of some of those books, including New Avengers #9, the third part of the “Sentry” story arc (the first part of which guest-starred Paul Jenkins as himself), and Runaways #7, the first part of a new two-issue story arc.

As usual, previews are preceded by Marvel’s description of the issue.

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_cvr.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_cvr-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" / align="right"></a><blockquote>NEW AVENGERS #9
WRITTEN BY: BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
PENCIL BY: STEVE MCNIVEN
COLOR BY: DAVID FINCH
THE SENTRY The mystery of the Sentry revealed! What has kept the Sentry a secret from the world, and how will the world react to his re-emerging. Featuring guest stars galore, and the setup for the blistering new Sentry series by Sentry creator Paul Jenkins. Part 3 (of 3). 32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP ...$2.50
RETAILERS PLASE NOTE: There will be a variant cover of this issue. </blockquote>

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_1-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="New Avengers #9, pg. 1" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_2-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="New Avengers #9, pg. 2" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a> <a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_3-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="New Avengers #9, pg. 3" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_4-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="New Avengers #9, pg. 4" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a> <a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_5.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_5-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="New Avengers #9, pg. 5" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_6.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/newavengers9_6-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="New Avengers #9, pg. 6" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a></center>

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_cvr.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_cvr-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="" / align="left"></a><blockquote>RUNAWAYS #7
WRITTEN BY: BRIAN K. VAUGHAN
PENCIL BY: TAKESHI MIYAZAWA
COLOR BY: CHRIS BACHALO
Part 1 (of 2) A perfect jumping-on point for the series that Wizard said could be the most original book to focus on teenaged super-heroes since Spider-Man debuted all the way back in 1962! Fan-favorite artist Takeshi Miyazawa returns to RUNAWAYS for a special two-part story that will change the team's lineup forever! When a dangerous alien invades Los Angeles, the Runaways' own Karolina Dean may be the only hero in the Marvel Universe who can stop him... but at what cost? 32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP $2.99</blockquote>

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_1-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="Runaways #7, pg. 1" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_2-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="Runaways #7, pg. 2" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_3-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="Runaways #7, pg. 3" / vspace="1" hspace="1"> </a><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_4-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="Runaways #7, pg. 4" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_5.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_5-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="Runaways #7, pg. 5" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_6.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Sept_05/runaways7_6-.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="250" alt="Runaways #7, pg. 6" / vspace="1" hspace="1"></a></center>

Gordon McAlpin

08-10-2005, 12:05 PM

I love Adrian Alphona (or whatever the regular Runaways penciler is) but Miyazawa's fill-in issues are swweeeeeeeeet.

BrotherI

08-10-2005, 12:12 PM

New Avengers looks good. Hopefully Bendis won't RUIN what happened in the original Sentry story.

New Alfonso

08-10-2005, 12:13 PM

Geez, how can people stand this Bendis dialogue?

"Big blonde guy?"
"OKay."

People deny he writes all his characters the same, and here we have Reed Richards pretending to be dumb and acting all sarcastic.

I just don't understand why people take this.

MattBrady

08-10-2005, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by New Alfonso
I just don't understand why people take this. There are people on the planet who feel differently about such things than you do. Think of them as the people who mutter "I don't understand why, New Alfonso/Alfonso/Hdefined/Ras/Wadey/nome de jour complains about Marvel incessantly." You obviously, feel differenetly.

That doesn't make them better than you ro worse than you, just different. Please try to deal with it, and I think we'd all be happy with the results.

MattB

Tom Daylight

08-10-2005, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by BrotherI
New Avengers looks good. Hopefully Bendis won't RUIN what happened in the original Sentry story.

i was not aware bendis was capable of retroactively changing the contents of old comics...

oh well.

by the way, matt, this is the third part of "Who is the Sentry?", not the second :)

Lex

08-10-2005, 12:21 PM

Ha! That Runaways preview was great!

"Try not to die." Heh.

mata_pichones

08-10-2005, 12:23 PM

Avengers looks fantastic, even when they're just sitting around the art looks gorgeous. If it'll keep looking like that, Bendis can decompress the crap out of it. :)

I've been trying to pick up runaways but just haven't found a good jump on point. Now's a good a time as any I suppose.

Kolimar

08-10-2005, 12:23 PM

Swarm. :D That's what I call a good use of an old unused character.

Johnny Smith

08-10-2005, 12:26 PM

Swarm in the next Runaways issue - looks cool!

Originally posted by MattBrady
Marvel Comics has released their usual selection of Tuesday 6-page previews, but a one day late this time.

A-Ha!

Marvel's even late with the previews! :p

Kolimar

08-10-2005, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by Fetsur
i was not aware bendis was capable of retroactively changing the contents of old comics...

Any writer can. I think it's called "retroactive continuity". :D Bendis just doesn't know how to do it right sometimes. :D

MoneyMelon

08-10-2005, 12:29 PM

New Avengers looks really cool. I've been looking forward tot his Sentry story.

And I've really got to start reading Runaways. It looks great!

TheDarkRave

08-10-2005, 12:32 PM

Tom Daylight

08-10-2005, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Kolimar
Any writer can. I think it's called "retroactive continuity". :D Bendis just doesn't know how to do it right sometimes. :D

sure, but he can't do anything to change my copy of the SENTRY tpb, without coming round my house and scribbling all over it. (which, if you're reading brian, you are more than welcome to do.)

NightRiver

08-10-2005, 01:05 PM

Im gonna miss Alphona's pencils. Miyazawa' s pencils look to Marvel-Adventurish to me.

Avengers looks great as usual with McNiven's pencils. I love his two page spreads.

moor

08-10-2005, 01:06 PM

Sadly, I was a bit more hyped for the Sentry arc, but the 3 word convos are turning me off too.. Bendis' voice works for Cage and Wolvie.. less so for Stark and Reed, Stark's not coming across like the charismatic personality that he's supposed to be, and Reed is convincingly pre-occupied, I'm not getting that social aloofness that he usually presents when around crowds..

Nothin bad to say about Runaways though... Somebody shoulda locked Vaughn down a long time ago.. and the fill in art is great.. give that guy a monthly plz..

x23nocturne

08-10-2005, 01:16 PM

"Try West Hollywood" HAHAHAHA!!!! Lol BKV I love how you always have these bratty kids have senses of humor!!! You should put one in that tries to be funny but isn't and everyone just like glares at him/her whenever they open their mouth, like I do to my little brother lol.

Grendel Prime

08-10-2005, 01:34 PM

SSSSSSSWWWWAAAAARRRRRMMMMMM!!!

(Overwhelmed by fond memories of the Amazing Spider-Friends.)

razorwing77

08-10-2005, 02:05 PM

Man, that picture of Swarm (I remember the Spider-Man and His Amazing friends, too) had to take a long time to draw.

Along with Captain America, New Avengers and Runaways are the best books Marvel's producing right now. The previews look great!

R A Renteria

08-10-2005, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by razorwing77
Man, that picture of Swarm (I remember the Spider-Man and His Amazing friends, too) had to take a long time to draw.

Along with Captain America, New Avengers and Runaways are the best books Marvel's producing right now. The previews look great!

I have to totally agree with this statement. I remeber SWARM from the Spidey cartoon and its nice to see him back.

In regards to New Avengers, Steve McNiven's art is some of the best. Regardless of what some people may think, Bendis does write a good story, unless of course I'm not allowed to have my own opinion. Looking forward to both these books.

Richard

Spider Symbiote

08-10-2005, 02:50 PM

Any idea when New Avengers 9 is due out?

xanderxerxes

08-10-2005, 02:54 PM

deathmasterj

08-10-2005, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by New Alfonso
Geez, how can people stand this Bendis dialogue?

"Big blonde guy?"
"OKay."

People deny he writes all his characters the same, and here we have Reed Richards pretending to be dumb and acting all sarcastic.

I just don't understand why people take this.

I like Bandis' dialogue, he writes people in a way that real peopel actually talk. Real people are sarcastic, they "um" they "ah", they stop and start sentances. Bendis captures this perfectly.

His dialogue is what brings me back to all his books every month, your annoying, constant Marvel bashing is what stops me posting much on here, thus that makes Bendis better than you!

xanderxerxes

08-10-2005, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Spider Symbiote
Any idea when New Avengers 9 is due out?

August 24th!!! Mark the date! :D :D :D

And if it does not! sue Marvel! bwahaha.

the_sentry

08-10-2005, 02:58 PM

OH MY GOD, I could not be more excited. New Avengers looks amazing! And the Swarm! Runaways once again pulls out the C list for A list stories! Go Brian V!

the_sentry

08-10-2005, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by New Alfonso
Geez, how can people stand this Bendis dialogue?

"Big blonde guy?"
"OKay."

People deny he writes all his characters the same, and here we have Reed Richards pretending to be dumb and acting all sarcastic.

I just don't understand why people take this.

Awww, there you go Alfonso, here’s your binky. No one’s goanna make you get the big bad Marvel books with their complex stories and detailed art. It’s okay, hush… nappy time…

Bendis writes like they’re real people, well as close as you can simulate realistic dialog in a comic book setting. Would it have been better to have the conversation go like this:

“Sure you’re aware of this tower of a man.”

“Even I, Mr. Fantastic, with the intellect of that far greater than any man alive, am not aware of all things.”

deathmasterj

08-10-2005, 03:09 PM

Darth Tigris

08-10-2005, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by the_sentry
Awww, there you go Alfonso, here’s your binky. No one’s goanna make you get the big bad Marvel books with their complex stories and detailed art. It’s okay, hush… nappy time…

Bendis writes like they’re real people, well as close as you can simulate realistic dialog in a comic book setting. Would it have been better to have the conversation go like this:

“Sure you’re aware of this tower of a man.”

“Even I, Mr. Fantastic, with the intellect of that far greater than any man alive, am not aware of all things.”

:D

I like you. Stick around and make these boards better. Please and thank you.

I'm soooo fascinated with what they're doing with the Sentry with this arc. It really feels like a good mystery and they are dealing with the return of the Sentry in a way that the solution will be different than the mini. As if they learned something from the last time or something. Kinda reminds me of that ST:TNG episode where they were in a temporal loop, but kept making progress each time to get out of it. Great stuff. Hope this comes next week ...

Fingers

08-10-2005, 03:55 PM

God damn stupid previews making want books i dont get.
I'm gonna have to seek out cheap runaways trades, but i'm down with new avengers......Heh "down"

Michael P

08-10-2005, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by the_sentry

“Sure you’re aware of this tower of a man.”

“Even I, Mr. Fantastic, with the intellect of that far greater than any man alive, am not aware of all things.” No, but there's a happy medium. I mean, monosyllabic back-and-forths can get just as tedious.

I suspect Alfonso would rather have had:

Tony: "He says he was a superhero, but I've never heard of him. Power on Thor's level, a big blue-and-yellow suit, the works. He says you were his best friend, and that you sent Matt Murdock to look in on him in the Raft. He imprisoned himself there after --"

Reed: "Tony. I have no idea what you're talking about. I've never heard of any 'Sentry,' and I didn't send Matt Murdock to the Raft or anywhere else."

Tony: "This is... confusing. Reynolds says he killed his wife, but she's alive. You say you've never met him, but Matt Murdock swears otherwise. Neither of you is lying, so what's going on?" etc.

Would you have any problem with that?

Michael P

08-10-2005, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Fingers
God damn stupid previews making want books i dont get.
I'm gonna have to seek out cheap runaways trades, but i'm down with new avengers......Heh "down" The digests are $8 a pop, and there's a hardcover with all 18 issues of the first volume coming out today for about $35 (which is just under $2 an issue, 1/3 off the original cover price). That good enough for you?

OcCaM

08-10-2005, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Kolimar
Swarm. :D That's what I call a good use of an old unused character.

Huh you got my attn. Now I actually have to read the preview! :)

I've always loved Swarm from the first time I saw him in CHampions to his Spec. Spidey appearances. Lots of potential, never utilized. Besides, he's creepy!

Michael P

08-10-2005, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by OcCaM
Huh you got my attn. Now I actually have to read the preview! :)

I've always loved Swarm from the first time I saw him in CHampions to his Spec. Spidey appearances. Lots of potential, never utilized. Besides, he's creepy! I put together a Yellowjacket/Wasp mini half for a class and half for fun. One of the potential plotlines (which I eventually discarded in favor of a better idea) had Swarm as the main villain, somewhat pumped up to a serious threat level.

I mean, when you think about it, a sentient, telepathic, malicious hive of bees is a pretty dangerous thing, under the proper circumstances.

Fan4Fan

08-10-2005, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by MattBrady
There are people on the planet who feel differently about such things than you do. Think of them as the people who mutter "I don't understand why, New Alfonso/Alfonso/Hdefined/Ras/Wadey/nome de jour complains about Marvel incessantly." You obviously, feel differenetly.

That doesn't make them better than you ro worse than you, just different. Please try to deal with it, and I think we'd all be happy with the results.

MattB

Matt,

Are you saying that one person under different handles feels this way, or that there are a group of people that feel this way?

Just asking for clarification.

And, for the record, I have never understood the appeal of Mr. Bendis' work. I don't typically complain. I just don't buy his books.

Thanks,
Fan4Fan

OcCaM

08-10-2005, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by Michael P
I put together a Yellowjacket/Wasp mini half for a class and half for fun. One of the potential plotlines (which I eventually discarded in favor of a better idea) had Swarm as the main villain, somewhat pumped up to a serious threat level.

I mean, when you think about it, a sentient, telepathic, malicious hive of bees is a pretty dangerous thing, under the proper circumstances.

Even a "swarm" of ants can be a dangerous thing too. Wasn't it an amnesiac Antman that does a fairly good trouncing of the Avengers around #160 I think?

Anyway, most writers these days just don't utilize their imaginations very well. Too many street level or VERY cosmic level threats. There's many other types of vastly under-utilized threats they could be creatively using. Swarm just being one of them!

OcCaM

08-10-2005, 04:30 PM

Btw, why does that New AVengers say 3 of 3.

Wasn't this story expanded to 4 parts?

Michael P

08-10-2005, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by OcCaM
Even a "swarm" of ants can be a dangerous thing too. Wasn't it an amnesiac Antman that does a fairly good trouncing of the Avengers around #160 I think?

Anyway, most writers these days just don't utilize their imaginations very well. Too many street level or VERY cosmic level threats. There's many other types of vastly under-utilized threats they could be creatively using. Swarm just being one of them! Or creating. I made up a pair of supervillainesses for the Black Knight to fight once specifically because I wanted to exploit a potential vulnerability of his that no established villain could.

moor

08-10-2005, 04:36 PM

for me... I'm loving his kick in the pants to the Avengers, which I haven't read since Stern was writing, and Dr. Druid, Black Knight and Ms. Marvel (the hot cop w/ the jerricurl) were members..

I like Bendis' dialogue.. just not coming out of certain characters' mouths. I don't expect Reed Richards to sound like you or me talkin to our buds on the street..

Not everyone talks "like real people" but then we've all got different expectations of our books, so tomato/tomatoe

after re review of the book, I'm not as dismissive of Niv's art, hell I can barely draw a stick.. not a figure, a stick... but I'm just not crazy about his Cage is all..

But he does have a knack for dramatic and dynamic layouts. I still don't see why the hate for Finch, but ah well...

Boink182

08-10-2005, 04:47 PM

Bendis' dialogue is realisitic? For what age? Are the people talking on drugs?

Person 1: Yeah?

Person 2: Yeah...

Person 1: Uhm...

Person 2: Yeah!

Person 1: No!

Person 2: No?

Person 1: No...

Person 2: Yes!

Person 1: Exactly...

The above is the kinda stuff I expect from a Bendis story, but thankfully it isn't spread across New Avengers (though theres some of it). It wouldn't be so bad...cept it's sometimes so repetitive (not only does the dialogue sometimes repeat, but characters seem to love repeating themselves and others). I eventually dropped USM after the upteenth issue in which nothing happens and PP and MJ have at least three "No." -"No?"-"No!" conversations. The dialogue also wouldn't be so bad if it were limited to just PP&MJ but when Aunt may starts in...and I think it was originally there in Powers, and DD&Foggy do it all the time as well (throw in blind lady or some of DD's villains like Mr. Owl and a lawyer). Seems as if too many of the characters are trying to be snarky, full-of-wit teenagers...

I'd much prefer dialogue found in Runaways. Gotta catch up on that series, but when I was reading vol. 1, I thought Runaways was the best super-hero book from either publisher.

Fingers

08-10-2005, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Michael P
The digests are $8 a pop, and there's a hardcover with all 18 issues of the first volume coming out today for about $35 (which is just under $2 an issue, 1/3 off the original cover price). That good enough for you?

Yes. Yes sir it is.

x23nocturne

08-10-2005, 05:11 PM

I wonder what'd happen if someone stole Swarm's honey?

SanityOrMadness

08-10-2005, 05:15 PM

SHIELD can't even keep a single bee locked up any longer? LOL.

Tom Daylight

08-10-2005, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by OcCaM
Btw, why does that New AVengers say 3 of 3.

Wasn't this story expanded to 4 parts?

yes, but it happened after #9 was solicited. this was addressed with the #10 solicitation, but the #9 remains this way.

Vintage

08-10-2005, 05:56 PM

I'm looking forward to New Avengers #9. I'm really interested in seeing how this Sentry arc plays out, particularly in terms of everyone remembering him and the repercussions in that regard with the Void.

Michael P

08-10-2005, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by SanityOrMadness
SHIELD can't even keep a single bee locked up any longer? LOL. Budget cuts, man. Somebody's gotta pay for Bush's tax cuts.

Rogersboy

08-10-2005, 06:33 PM

WOOOO..New Avengers. Nuff said.

PoisonElf

08-10-2005, 07:10 PM

RUNAWAYS #7
WRITTEN BY: BRIAN K. VAUGHAN
PENCIL BY: TAKESHI MIYAZAWA
COLOR BY: CHRIS BACHALO

It's Christina Strain on colors, not Chris Bachalo.

MattBrady

08-10-2005, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Fan4Fan
Are you saying that one person under different handles feels this way, or that there are a group of people that feel this way? Those are all handled Alfonso has used - some abanoded when they got too hot, some to signify some kind of new leaf being turned...or something. I forget, because it's the same peson with the same viewpoint, expressing it in the same way at the end of the day.

Pleased to clarify for ya. :)

MattB

Michael P

08-10-2005, 08:48 PM

tomburgos

08-10-2005, 09:16 PM

PoisonElf

08-10-2005, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by Michael P
Typo for "cover," I'm thinkin'.
Oh hey, looks like they did typo colorist instead of...coverist?

Either way, great colors Chris!
(HAH! Bulletproof.)

New Alfonso

08-11-2005, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by the_sentry
. . . the big bad Marvel books with their complex stories and detailed art . . .

. . . Bendis writes like they’re real people . . .

Complex stories? Is that why so many people are turned off to House of M? Because it's so complex their brains are going into information overload?

and . . .

1. These comic book characters are not "real people."
2. There are many types of "real people," and Bendis is making Reed Richards talk like a "real" fifteen year old defensive teenager.

mattdangerously

08-11-2005, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by Lex
Ha! That Runaways preview was great!

"Try not to die." Heh.

She says this while jumping off the top of the building. Seriously, how'd Nico and Victor land without going SPLAT?

Gordon McAlpin

08-11-2005, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by NightRiver
Im gonna miss Alphona's pencils. Miyazawa' s pencils look to Marvel-Adventurish to me.

Avengers looks great as usual with McNiven's pencils. I love his two page spreads.

Did you know that Miyazawa did two issues of Runaways in the first series (the Cloak & Dagger issues)? I thought those were extremely well-drawn issues.

If Alphona's gotta take a break from Runaways, it's Takeshi Miyazawa I want to see drawing the fill-ins.

Gordon McAlpin

08-11-2005, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by New Alfonso
Complex stories? Is that why so many people are turned off to House of M? Because it's so complex their brains are going into information overload?

and . . .

1. These comic book characters are not "real people."
2. There are many types of "real people," and Bendis is making Reed Richards talk like a "real" fifteen year old defensive teenager.

Dude, I no fan of Brian Bendis's writing, and I don't even know what you're talking about with this Reed Richards bitch. He's had his memory tampered with, right? He's just talking like someone who has no recollection at all of the memory these people are trying to jog.

As someone with a shitty memory, I have conversations like this a lot. While I may not be a Reed Richards style genius, but I'm pretty ____ing brilliant :) and I sound pretty much like that.

elfin27

08-11-2005, 10:35 AM

sorry but i actually find mcniven's art not appropriate to new avengers. miss finch's over-rendering, darker style. mcniven would be better off on other titles like a revamp alpha or maybe x-factor.

the_sentry

08-11-2005, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by New Alfonso
Complex stories? Is that why so many people are turned off to House of M? Because it's so complex their brains are going into information overload?

and . . .

1. These comic book characters are not "real people."
2. There are many types of "real people," and Bendis is making Reed Richards talk like a "real" fifteen year old defensive teenager.

You mean this isn't a documentary that is happening in real time! Iron Man isn't a real guy? Well crap, oh wait, I forgot, I'm not retarded. I'm aware these aren't "real people" but I don't want to read a damn melodrama. Bendis writes in a more "natural conversation" style It's not like Reed said:

"Back the krunk off, get'n all up in my face, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ME."

Then ran off and cried in his room. Just come out with it. You don't like it because it's Marvel and Bendis and you're scarded that if you don't bash it people will think you support it. To me DC books are cornball, but I don't care, people really seem to like that. Marvel takes a lot of ____ from comic fans on the boards, and this Marvel fanboy is sick of it.

mavinga

08-11-2005, 12:01 PM

Chris coloring? Interesting. Way to experiment.

New Alfonso

08-11-2005, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by the_sentry
Just come out with it. You don't like it because it's Marvel and Bendis

I'll wait until you can figure out why I don't like Bendis, and see if you can connect that to my criticism of his dialogue abilities.

and you're scarded

I've never been more scarded in my life!!!!!

Marquee Moon

08-11-2005, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Darth Tigris
:D Kinda reminds me of that ST:TNG episode where they were in a temporal loop, but kept making progress each time to get out of it. Great stuff. Hope this comes next week ...

One of my favorite eps.

NA wasn't in the preview pile at the store I go to, but that doesn't always mean anything.

khuxford

08-11-2005, 05:56 PM

khuxford

08-11-2005, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by the_sentry
OH MY GOD, I could not be more excited. New Avengers looks amazing! And the Swarm! Runaways once again pulls out the C list for A list stories! Go Brian V!

New Avengers is looking like it is really getting going...and I'm digging the art better in this arc than the first...

PoisonElf

08-11-2005, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by mavinga
Chris coloring? Interesting. Way to experiment.
Yeah, it's a typo. It should be "Cover:", not "Colors"...
Check the credits page, same colorist as always.

(Hope you're being sarcastic)

SD Johnny

08-12-2005, 03:38 AM

I'm getting back into the hobby. Can someone give me the back story on this Sentry guy or is he a new creation?

davew

08-12-2005, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by SD Johnny
I'm getting back into the hobby. Can someone give me the back story on this Sentry guy or is he a new creation?

He's fairly new, but isn't a Bendis creation. Paul Jenkins wrote the original Sentry miniseries a couple of years ago (get hold of the TPB if you can, it's well worth it. It also has the crossover issues with the FF, Spider-Man, X-Men and Hulk , which make up a large part of the Sentry backstory).

It tells the story of a guy who keeps getting weird flashbacks, as though he was once a superhero, but isn't sure. None of the other Marvel characters remember him, but gradually he starts to realise that he used to be a hero called the Sentry, who appeared at the same time as Spidey and the FF. They even made up a huge cover story which was printed in Wizard and in other publications about the Sentry being an old Stan Lee creation from the 60s which predated the first appearance of the FF.

He's extremely powerful (some people have called him a Marvel Superman analogue, but I think his powers exceed Supes) and has an equally powerful nemesis called the Void, who begins to make a return as the series draws to a close.

Anyway, gradually, everyone starts to remember who he is and realise why they forgot him in the first place. I don't want to spoil the ending for you, because it's really worth picking up. Try and read it before you dive into the New Avengers story if you can, it's useful background. As far as I know, Sentry didn't make any other appearances between the end of the Sentry miniseries and the beginning of New Avengers.

SD Johnny

08-12-2005, 12:23 PM

Thanks Dave. I will have to pick up that TPB.

jasirikun

08-15-2005, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by PoisonElf
RUNAWAYS #7
WRITTEN BY: BRIAN K. VAUGHAN
PENCIL BY: TAKESHI MIYAZAWA
COLOR BY: CHRIS BACHALO

It's Christina Strain on colors, not Chris Bachalo.

THANK YOU! I was hoping someone else would notice this.

... Okay, actually I was hoping no one else would notice it and I could get credit as being the first and therefore smartest man in the world. But... but good job catching that there.

Redwings83

08-15-2005, 03:12 AM

Yea damn that Bendis and Marvel!!! All the top sales and fans they have!! Bendis must be as bad as the great New Alfonso says.. :rolleyes:

Jeremy Williams

08-15-2005, 05:08 AM

I like Previews like this, MicNiven is GAWD and they made a great move in having Bachalo being the new cover artist of Runaway.

ileadtoruins

08-15-2005, 10:13 AM

i like the variant cover for new avengers no. 9. issue's 7 and 8 variants were cool too. i pick this one up also.

Nameless

08-15-2005, 05:33 PM

I have never really read Avengers i am thinging of picking it up in trade

Runaways looks like it is back on from i was not a big fan of the first arc Vol2 i am hoping this will be Runaways back on form

GnomeWonder

08-15-2005, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by Michael P
No, but there's a happy medium. I mean, monosyllabic back-and-forths can get just as tedious.

I suspect Alfonso would rather have had:

Tony: "He says he was a superhero, but I've never heard of him. Power on Thor's level, a big blue-and-yellow suit, the works. He says you were his best friend, and that you sent Matt Murdock to look in on him in the Raft. He imprisoned himself there after --"

Reed: "Tony. I have no idea what you're talking about. I've never heard of any 'Sentry,' and I didn't send Matt Murdock to the Raft or anywhere else."

Tony: "This is... confusing. Reynolds says he killed his wife, but she's alive. You say you've never met him, but Matt Murdock swears otherwise. Neither of you is lying, so what's going on?" etc.

Would you have any problem with that?

I would. I don't know of anyone who talks like that.

New Alfonso

08-16-2005, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by GnomeWonder
I would. I don't know of anyone who talks like that.

Well it depends, how many superheroes do you know?

GnomeWonder

08-16-2005, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by New Alfonso
Well it depends, how many superheroes do you know?

well, two. and a villian. But they all talk like fifteen year olds, so....

R A Renteria

08-16-2005, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by GnomeWonder
well, two. and a villian. But they all talk like fifteen year olds, so....

LOL .. that was funny.

Richard

Trachman

08-27-2005, 09:28 PM

I am hooked on New Avengers Bendis is awesome! I really love the new team. Runaways is cool too