JiC: THE DEVIL IN YOUR FUTURE

[MattBrady]

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/dd_43.jpg" width="165" height="256" align="right">by Michael Sangiacomo

Like the rest of us, Brian Bendis is patiently waiting for the February 14th release of the Daredevil movie. Actually, he may be a little more excited than most, since he’s been writing the monthly Daredevil comic for more than a year.

Bendis first read Daredevil in high school. He was impressed that the 1980s’ writer/artist Frank Miller could make the story “cinematic.”

“Miller did things I had never seen done in a comic,” said Bendis. “I mean, his girlfriend died in his arms. Things like that didn’t happen back then.”

Bendis took over writing Daredevil regularly with issue #26, more than a year ago. Last week issue #41 came out with its special quarter price tag to attract new readers before the movie.

Like Miller, Bendis is also breaking new ground with Daredevil.

“For years, other writers have been pretty casual about Daredevil’s secret identity,” Bendis said. “He revealed it to every girl that made goo-goo eyes at him. Kingpin knew it, a newspaper reporter knew it. It was logical that at some point a newspaper would print it.”

And that’s what happened. Once the word was out, Murdock’s life became impossible. His home and office were mobbed by curiosity seekers, reporters and an occasional bad guy out for revenge. Bendis was fascinated by the legal ramifications. Since Daredevil often provided police with suspects and clues in cases that he handled as Murdock, those cases could be overturned.

Recently, Daredevil testified at a trial where Murdock was counsel. It was actually Spider-Man impersonating Daredevil, a situation that could mean jail time for perjury if word got out. So Daredevil is desperate to save his secret. “He did what anyone would do: deny, deny, deny,” Bendis said. “He sued the newspaper and now people are not so sure. The whole thing will be coming to a head in issue #50. But it’s not going to be easy.”

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/dd_45.jpg" width="165" height="256" align="left">Issue #50 will feature an artistic homage to scores of Daredevil artists of the past. And the schizoid Typhoid Mary returns in issue #46.

After allowing his buddy David Mack to fill in for a couple issues in the early fifties, Bendis and artist Alex Maleev are back on board for the next big story arc: the Ten Commandments according to Daredevil.

“It will be a Daredevil run based on the 10 Commandments,” he said. “Ten issues, each story will talk about the effect Daredevil has had on a character in New York’s Hell’s Kitchen. It’s based on the work of a famous polish filmmaker named Krzysztof Kieslowski, 10 short films called Decalogue.”

Bendis said there will be a religious undertone to the stories and will feature the return of Daredevil’s mother, Maggie, a Roman Catholic nun. “We’ll be dealing with Daredevil’s impact on his Hell’s Kitchen neighborhood, a place that was built on blood,” he said. “People from the neighborhood whose lives he saved will be sitting in a church kitchen talking about Daredevil. I mean, if a person is religious what does it mean when his life is saved by a person calling himself a devil?”

Michael Sangiacomo is a statewide news reporter for the Plain Dealer newspaper in Cleveland, Ohio. His syndicated "Journey Into Comics" weekly column on the state of the comic book business, can be found in newspapers and at the Newsarama website. His monthly comic book column appears the first Saturday of each month in the Plain Dealer Arts page and is syndicated through Newhouse Newspapers. He also writes a twice-monthly audiobooks review column covering crime thrillers and mysteries that can be seen at <a href="http://www.audiobookstoday.com" target="_blank">www.audiobookstoday.com</a>

[arthur pendragon]

Brian Bendis: "Miller did things I had never seen done in a comic," said Bendis. "I mean, his girlfriend died in his arms. Things like that didn’t happen back then."

ap: That's what made Kevin Smith's run on the book seem so fresh! ;)

[jawaplumber]

I was too young at the time to follow Frank Miller's run on Daredevil, even though I do remember having one particularly impressing issue with Black Widow in it. Now, at the ripe old age of 27, I can fully enjoy what is sure to go down as another classic era of DAREDEVIL, with Bendis and Maleev. That ain't no hyperbole, either :) I don't think I've read one issue since they took over that hasn't been spectacular, even those with fill-in artists. The most recent, issue no. 41, was perhaps my favorite thus far. From start to finish, it was a winner on all counts. The new girl in DD's life, the hilarious scene with Stilt-Man, DD's interrogations, the shocking scene with the Owl. all brought to dirty, gritty life by Alex Maleev. Instant classic work. I cannot wait for what lies ahead for DAREDEVIL!

[Clem Snide]

That run between issue #26 and #34 is as remarkable as any past run of Daredevil.

"Cinematic" doesn't really do it justice; with the fractured, non-linear temporality and the constant use of recurring images, that particular run is the comics equivalent of the films of Nicolas Roeg.

There is no higher praise than that.

[Burke 0011]

Man, thinking about some other Daredevil within recent years..... those issues that Bob Gale did - did anyone like those at all? I personally thought they were pretty terrible. Anyone else?


BENDIS is pretty much GOD right now to me. He's the guy who brought me back to comics after a few years of not collecting. The spirit and emotion he captures in Ultimate Spidey (not to mention great action and characters) is about as close to the current day version of the starting run of Spidey way way back as you could get. The book just has that 'spark' that it did back then.

POWERS - pretty much the best book out there right now. Bendis continues to astound me with each subsequent issue.

Now, as much as I'll kiss the man's ass, I'll say that do I like and collect Daredevil (Maleev's art is something so unique) - I appreciate Bendis NOT trying to 'channel' Miller and tack his own course for the book, making it more a crime noir/drama, which suits the book just fine - but I find that I can never truly and wholeheartedly 100% 'buy' his Daredevil characterization. When I read the book, I don't think "Hey, it's Matt Murdock/Daredevil".... I end up thinking "Hey, it's Bendis' Matt Murdock/Darevdevil". Every once in a while, Daredevil will just say something that makes me go 'Geez.... I think I know the character after all these years.. would he really SAY that?"

The last issue - Daredevil is looking for The Owl because he's looking to take over local crime since Kingpin is gone. Daredevil is interrogating criminals with things like "WHERE'S THE %#$%@$-ING OWL?!?!"

Somehow I just don't hear DD saying that.....

Again, I am NOT slamming Bendis - on the contrary, I love the guy's work and I'm still buying just about all his stuff. Just wanted to make that observation about DD to see if any other longtime readers picked up on that same 'vibe' I did.


(and when I buy POWERS, not only do I feel like I'm reading the best thing out there right now, I feel like I'm getting TWO books for the price of one - cause that letter page is one hell of an intertaining read in and of itself!!
:D )

That's one funny little bald guy!! :)

[Fourthman]

Carol Perino should be the artist on DD next.

[L'Zoril]

I love Bendis. I think DD and Powers are great outstanding comics but god forgive me, I never got into Ultimate Spidey. Yes.... I know... Anyhow, I pretty much think it sucks. Sorry...

[gOgIver]

With Bendis & Maleev on Daredevil I have no problem with the $2.99 price tag. Best Daredevil in 10 years!

[Taylor Porter]

[quote]Originally posted by Burke 0011:
<strong>Man, thinking about some other Daredevil within recent years..... those issues that Bob Gale did - did anyone like those at all? I personally thought they were pretty terrible. Anyone else?
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah, I thought they were pretty lame. The best part was the covers by David Mack. The story was kind of goofy, and both of the artists were quite blah. Definitely below the standard of quality that Marvel Knights has set for Daredevil.

[OM]

...And in the end, Matt descends the Empire State Building, carrying two stone tablets, written with the Finger of God, which he gives to the people. And justice rules over the Big Apple for all the years to come.

Until the Kingpin decides he doesn't want a copy, but the original...

[can1]

Can Daredevil be better that it is under Bendis. I can't imagine how, but these guys at Marvel keep raising my expectations. Let them hype as long as they deliver like this..

[the_conqueror]

[quote]Originally posted by TaylorPorter:
<strong>

Yeah, I thought they were pretty lame. The best part was the covers by David Mack. The story was kind of goofy, and both of the artists were quite blah. Definitely below the standard of quality that Marvel Knights has set for Daredevil.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The covers by Mack were the best part? You mean the ones that made it look like it was the same comic on the shelf for six months? The abstract garbage that wouldn't influence any kid to pick up the book, the same kids Nu-Marvel is just begging for? Jesus, you guys are deluded. Bendis is the most overrated and boring writer in comics. Gale's arc was so much more entertaining than anything Bendis has done. Now we get the usual Bendis arc, with Ten Commandments, where DD isn't really in the issue just people sitting around talking about him. Similar to the Leap Frog child abuse arc or whatever the hell it was. One thing's for sure it was DULL.

[Falkner]

[quote]Can Daredevil be better that it is under Bendis.<hr></blockquote>

Nope. This comic is the best it's ever been. Just to stir up some controversy, I have to say that I REALLY wish they would pull an 'ULTIMATES' on this title. In other words, let the comic be late just so the regular artist can do EVERY issue. The fill-in issues were quite a visual shock and really broke up the story. The artists were good (Dodson is GREAT) but their styles are just too far off from Maleev's.

[Dood Lee]

[quote]Originally posted by the_conqueror:
<strong>

The covers by Mack were the best part? You mean the ones that made it look like it was the same comic on the shelf for six months? The abstract garbage that wouldn't influence any kid to pick up the book, the same kids Nu-Marvel is just begging for? Jesus, you guys are deluded. Bendis is the most overrated and boring writer in comics. Gale's arc was so much more entertaining than anything Bendis has done. Now we get the usual Bendis arc, with Ten Commandments, where DD isn't really in the issue just people sitting around talking about him. Similar to the Leap Frog child abuse arc or whatever the hell it was. One thing's for sure it was DULL.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hate to say it, but i don't like Bendis' DD as much as everyone else. Don't get me wrong, i think his stories are excellent. But the story moves too slowly, and at the price the book is, i can't afford to pick it up on a monthly basis. In fact, i think that's the problem i have with almost all his books (except powers). Sometimes, two or three issues of his arcs could fit in one book, but for some reason, he seems to stretch out the story across 3 issues. I really think Marvel should try to get its writers to speed things up, or at least do self contained stories every now and then. Drawing out stories for extended periods usually means new ppl might not want to pick up the book monthly, because it costs too much to get the whole story.

[Gelogurte]

See? How can people bash Joe Quesada like that?
He brought Daredevil back to the world of the living with a very good Kevin Smith story arc.

Then he puts Brian Michael Bendis writing it with two of the best artists out there, Alex Maleev and Matt Hollingsworth!

I'm not a Marvel zombie. In fact, my all time favorite character will always be Superman. But come on... Daredevil right now is a force to be reckoned with! Credit where credit is due and all that crap.

There! I said it! You guys can start calling me "geek", "freak", "zombie", etc etc etc.

P.S.: I enjoyed the Bob Gale arc! Very different and unusual in this dark, grim comic book world Daredevil lives these days. It was very light and fun without being silly.

[KACH]

[quote]Originally posted by Burke 0011:
<strong>Daredevil is interrogating criminals with things like "WHERE'S THE %#$%@$-ING OWL?!?!"

Somehow I just don't hear DD saying that.....

</strong><hr></blockquote>

You're right. Angry people never, ever use curse words . . .

--J.

[Dan20]

[quote]Originally posted by Matt Brady:
<strong>“Miller did things I had never seen done in a comic,” said Bendis. “I mean, his girlfriend died in his arms. Things like that didn’t happen back then.”[/URL][/i]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Didn't the death of Gwen Stacy happen before the Elektra arc? :)
Anyways, Bendis is doing great things with this book. Looking forward to everything he's got planned.

[RDFozz]

[quote]Originally posted by Burke 0011:
<strong>Man, thinking about some other Daredevil within recent years..... those issues that Bob Gale did - did anyone like those at all? I personally thought they were pretty terrible. Anyone else?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Note that Marvel has collected every issue of DAREDEVIL v. 2 up through the beginning of Bendis' current run ... except the Gale arc.

[Burke 0011]

quote:
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Originally posted by Burke 0011:
Daredevil is interrogating criminals with things like "WHERE'S THE %#$%@$-ING OWL?!?!"
Somehow I just don't hear DD saying that.....

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You're right. Angry people never, ever use curse words . . .

--J.

Wow - now that's an astute observation. Such sarcastic biting wit!

I'll elaborate on my post then (which I thought might be clear enough but for you, obviously NOT). What I'm talking about is 'staying in character'. Every writer makes a character his own. But with an established character who has been around so many years, there's already a predetermined sense of what that person is like and what that person is about.

Hence, Daredevil. So far it has only been laid out that The Owl is moving in on Kingpin's turf. He has not tried to kill DD (at least not that afternoon).
He has not threatened his life.
He has not threatened the people Matt loves.
He's simply looking to take the number one spot now that it's empty......

And for this, we get DD screaming his head off "Where's the %#$@%#$-ING OWL?!?!?!" at a guy, like the Owl had done something like kill Elektra?

Again, it's Bendis' book and he writes it how he wants to. All I was trying to point out was that that instance of characterization in the latest issue didn't 'ring true' to me.

That's all.
There. That easy enough for you?

[Burke 0011]

Oh and by the way Fourthman, Carol Perino penciling DD would simply rule.

[Taylor Porter]

[quote]Originally posted by the_conqueror:
<strong>
The covers by Mack were the best part? You mean the ones that made it look like it was the same comic on the shelf for six months? The abstract garbage that wouldn't influence any kid to pick up the book, the same kids Nu-Marvel is just begging for? Jesus, you guys are deluded. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Deluded? Geeze, thanks. By the way, I didn't even say that I thought the covers were good; I just said they were the best part. That's because I thought the insides were terrible. You're right, they did look similar, although, since those issues were bi-weekly, it was only three months. But I'm glad to know that liking things that you don't makes me deluded.

[Dood Lee]

[quote]Originally posted by RDFozz:
<strong>

Note that Marvel has collected every issue of DAREDEVIL v. 2 up through the beginning of Bendis' current run ... except the Gale arc.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I was under the impression that Daredevil vol.1 HC would have the first 24 issues of Daredevil vol.2, with the Kevin Smith/J Quesada run and the run immediately following theirs, which should be Gale's run, right? I don't know where Gale's run took place, i stopped reading after Smith and Quesada left.

[MichaelCoughlin]

I'm sure I'll get bashed for this like there's no tomorrow, but here goes:

I wonder how Bendis, as a Jewish man, will tackle DD being Catholic. And yes, I also wonder how someone who is Catholic would handle a Jewish charecter.

The one thing when reading Kevin Smith writing DD (speaking of which, when the hell is his next issue coming out anyways?) is that, and I say this as a Catholic, I felt that Smith really captured his faith quite well. There are things about being a Catholic that I think only a Catholic can capture. (and I'm sure the same thing applies for Jewish and Muslim and every other religion as well)

[Asbel]

Bendis is a writer, he can write things he has not necissarily experienced and this is something that has always fascinated me about writers. Take, for example, his first story arc for Daredevil called "Wake Up" which he did with David Mack, in it he describes a situation where the child's mother found him climbing shelves to get to a bottle of tastey vitamins. Bendis, at the time, had no children and yet he was able to capture a mother's reaction to this kind of event with startleing accuracy. He's a writer.

Incidentally, after Kevin Smith finished his run, David Mack did his "Parts of a Hole" arc, which then led into "Wake Up" and then into Gale's less-than-quality arc.

--
Francis

[MindTricked]

Woohoo!! Typhoid's back, and Bendis is gonna make her shine! (or something)

I'm loving Bendis' Daredevil - I find it to be one of the most enjoyable, can't-wait-for-the-next-issue books I read (and I read way too much, damnit!). Of all the books I read, Ultimate Spider-Man and Daredevil are the two books I honestly really look forward to (there used to be others, but...).

Damn... I still can't believe (POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT!!!) that the White Tiger is dead. I have his first appearance, I belive, and now I have his last... but damn. I hope Bendis(!) does some follow-up on the repercussions.

[dollman]

[quote]Originally posted by Dan20:
<strong>

Didn't the death of Gwen Stacy happen before the Elektra arc? :)
Anyways, Bendis is doing great things with this book. Looking forward to everything he's got planned.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Absolutely!!! Preceded by about 10 years I think.

I picked up the $0.25 issue and was intrigued by the story, but the art sucks!!! Sorry, Maleev looks like he's doing a bad imitiation of Bill Sienchwiez, who's dark, sketchy art I never cared for either.

[Stratus]

[quote]I was under the impression that Daredevil vol.1 HC would have the first 24 issues of Daredevil vol.2, with the Kevin Smith/J Quesada run and the run immediately following theirs, which should be Gale's run, right?<hr></blockquote>

If I remember correctly, the first hardcover actually covered issues 1-11 and 13-15 of the current run, basically the first two arcs by Smith/Quesada and Mack/Quesada/Ross excluding the "extra" chapter that was inserted into the middle of the beautiful "Parts of a Hole" and also lacking the 1/2 issue published by Wizard. Therefore, also excluding the Bendis/Mack 4-issue "Wake Up" arc and Gale's 6 issues.

14 issues in a hardcover is more consistent with the length Marvel has been trying to make their other hardcovers - USM v. 1 was 13, UXM v. 1 was 12, UMTU was 17, Punisher was 13, etc. There are special cases like Origin and Elektra/Wolverine, but those weren't volumes in a planned series.

Regards,
Stratus

[tralfaz]

[quote]Originally posted by dollman:
<strong>

Absolutely!!! Preceded by about 10 years I think.

I picked up the $0.25 issue and was intrigued by the story, but the art sucks!!! Sorry, Maleev looks like he's doing a bad imitiation of Bill Sienchwiez, who's dark, sketchy art I never cared for either.</strong><hr></blockquote>


then what type of art do you see fitting this Daredevil comic?

I dont see imitiation. Maleev seems to be photo referencing in his work, especially the backgrounds, good stuff. art is all relative anyway

[Asbel]

Was the first hardcover ("Daredevil volume 1") already released? I don't remember seeing it...

--
Francis

[Scott Wherle]

[quote]Originally posted by MichaelCoughlin:
<strong>I wonder how Bendis, as a Jewish man, will tackle DD being Catholic. And yes, I also wonder how someone who is Catholic would handle a Jewish charecter.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Research?

[MattBrady]

[quote]Originally posted by MichaelCoughlin:
<strong>There are things about being a Catholic that I think only a Catholic can capture. (and I'm sure the same thing applies for Jewish and Muslim and every other religion as well)</strong><hr></blockquote>

What about man writing a woman character or vice versa? What about say, a normal, mortal person writing about someone with powers far beyond those of mortal men?

Writers have ways around these things.

MattB

[Kabukiman]

[quote]Originally posted by Dood Lee:
<strong>

I was under the impression that Daredevil vol.1 HC would have the first 24 issues of Daredevil vol.2, with the Kevin Smith/J Quesada run and the run immediately following theirs, which should be Gale's run, right? I don't know where Gale's run took place, i stopped reading after Smith and Quesada left.</strong><hr></blockquote>

After Smith/Quesada was Mack/Quesada/Dave Ross, then Bendis/Mack and THEN Gale's run. Which sucked. Sucked. Sucked.

[TylerS]

[quote]Originally posted by Falkner:
<strong>

Nope. This comic is the best it's ever been. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry, but Frank Miller was better. I love what Bendis is doing, but have no need to say it is the best just like I have no need to say Barry Bonds is better than Babe Ruth.

[TylerS]

[quote]Originally posted by MichaelCoughlin:
<strong>I'm sure I'll get bashed for this like there's no tomorrow, but here goes:

I wonder how Bendis, as a Jewish man, will tackle DD being Catholic. And yes, I also wonder how someone who is Catholic would handle a Jewish this as a Catholic </strong><hr></blockquote>

How can he write about a woman? That seems like a further stretch, but I'd argue that Alias is his best comic. It might be a slight disadvantage, but hardly a big deal.

[Combat Chuck]

I for one thought that Gale's arc wasn't that bad, but it sure wasn't what I had come to expect. After that superb opening arc for NML, Gale kinda dissappointed with his DD arc.

Bendis' books are high on my fave list. DD and USM are both incredible reads month in and month out. Daredevil has blown me away with the excellent pacing and storyline structure.

But what really seals the package is the fact that Maleev and Hollingsworth are a team that just can't be beaten. Maleev's technique of photo-imaging and art combined is beautiful, and I can't believe that someone can just brush it off as compared to Scieniwicz (that's a rough spelling). Hollingsworth just makes it all the more magical with his colors. This team deserves all the credit they get.

I can't wait for Typhoid Mary, and this Ten Commandments arc sounds intriguing....

[Kabukiman]

[quote]Originally posted by dollman:
<strong>Sorry, Maleev looks like he's doing a bad imitiation of Bill Sienchwiez, who's dark, sketchy art I never cared for either.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Maybe you think it's a bad imitation if Bill S because it is not an imitation at all.

Honestly, are you sure you're talking about Maleev??? His art looks nothing like Bill S's. I can understand people who compare David Mack's painted art, but this is insane!

[Hdefined]

I have to say I'm liking the book, and yes, Maleev is amazing (and I wouldn't be reading if he wasn't doing the art), but I feel a little cheated for $2.99 a month. The plot moves at snail pace, consisting of "huge event issue! followed by 6 repurcussion issues, then huge event issue! followed by . . ." Not that there's anything wrong with that intention, it's great storytelling, but in the time and issues Bendis is taking? Way too long.

Not to make the obvious comparisons in terms of storyline, but instead in terms of structure, look at Shakespear. If most of his plays consist of 5 acts, acts 1-2 are usually composed of discussion of current situations and plans to change them, act 3 is usually a great action, act 4 a fallout from that action, and act 5 is a smaller action accompanied by repurcussions.

Bendis' plot follows a similar structure (not as obvious, since comics don't end after 5 acts . . . ) But if he could condense a storyline to somewhere around 5 acts/issues, it would be more preferable, and let's face it, issue #41 is still a continuation of the first arc all the way from issue #26.

[jawaplumber]

[quote]Originally posted by Kabukiman:
<strong>

Maybe you think it's a bad imitation if Bill S because it is not an imitation at all.

Honestly, are you sure you're talking about Maleev??? His art looks nothing like Bill S's. I can understand people who compare David Mack's painted art, but this is insane!</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's because as soon as someone does artwork that's sketchy or gritty, people with an untrained eye automatically claim it's a rip off of Sienkiewicz. Maleev and Sienkiewicz are so far removed from each other in so many areas. Figure drawing, panel to panel storytelling, Maleev's penchant for mixed media (although this has been used by the fill-in artists, as well, during Bendis' run)...so much that seperates the two men, we might as well be comparing Dan DeCarlo to Rob Liefeld.

[Captain Jim]

I'm a big Bendis fan, but I also loved the Bob Gale arc. The ending was a bit weak, but other than that, I thought it was great. I haven't read any of Mack's stories; his art just isn't to my taste at all. As good as the Marvel Knights DD has been, though, I'd have to agree that Miller's stuff was better yet. Hard to beat Miller's DD run.

[MichaelCoughlin]

[quote]Originally posted by Matt Brady:
<strong>

What about man writing a woman character or vice versa? What about say, a normal, mortal person writing about someone with powers far beyond those of mortal men?

Writers have ways around these things.

MattB</strong><hr></blockquote>

True, and I'm sure that Bendis will do a good job of it. BUT I've talked to several women who've said that men can completely mis-write a female chatecter at times.

As for a mortal writing about a super-person, it's a little different because there isn't going to be a group of super-people who could say, "Hey, that isn't a correct representation of us!"

[Dood Lee]

[quote]Originally posted by Asbel:
<strong>Was the first hardcover ("Daredevil volume 1") already released? I don't remember seeing it...

--
Francis</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's gonna be released sometime in the first half of this year.

[Barry]

I'm convinced that I'm just about the only superhero comics fan who dislikes the Bendis run on Daredevil or his work in general. What's more, I cannot fathom why his work gains so much praise. My guess is that the dialogue drives so much of the story that readers don't notice how thin the plots are. I used to be a huge fan of his older stuff like Jinx, Goldfish, Fire and Fortune and Glory, but I find he also tends to reuse many plot elements as well, which could be another reason I no longer enjoy his work. Or perhaps it's that having read them in one sitting, I never noticed how long his stories seem to drag on until I started reading his monthly books.

One problem I have with Powers in particular is the fact that it more or less takes all the fun and innocence out of the superhero genre, while giving nothing back. In fact, it's more destructive than constructive. In other words, Watchmen it aint.

[KACH]

[quote]Originally posted by MichaelCoughlin:
<strong>I'm sure I'll get bashed for this like there's no tomorrow, but here goes:

I wonder how Bendis, as a Jewish man, will tackle DD being Catholic. And yes, I also wonder how someone who is Catholic would handle a Jewish charecter.

The one thing when reading Kevin Smith writing DD (speaking of which, when the hell is his next issue coming out anyways?) is that, and I say this as a Catholic, I felt that Smith really captured his faith quite well. There are things about being a Catholic that I think only a Catholic can capture. (and I'm sure the same thing applies for Jewish and Muslim and every other religion as well)</strong><hr></blockquote>

Wow. That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

--J.

[samnoir]

JMS is an athiest, yet has written some of the strongest scripts in SF television dealing with religion and spirituality on Babylon 5.

Who is Typhoid Mary and why are folks excited about her return?

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[theodoros]

[quote]Originally posted by Dood Lee:
<strong>

Don't get me wrong, i think his stories are excellent. But the story moves too slowly, and at the price the book is, i can't afford to pick it up on a monthly basis. In fact, i think that's the problem i have with almost all his books (except powers). Sometimes, two or three issues of his arcs could fit in one book, but for some reason, he seems to stretch out the story across 3 issues.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's true. His stories are... ...too... ...slow... ...for... ...me... ...to... ...follow... It's better to buy the paperback. But I am hopeless. I buy the comic book every month. :D :D :D :D

[Asbel]

Now all they have to do is put Born Again into a hardcover collection... maybe package it with Ninja and Wake Up, and I'll be super happy!

--
Francis

[Hellboy15]

I would love it if they would repackage the Frank Miller Visionaries in oversized HC, I like that they are putting the new material directly into print, but this is one classic that deserves the treatment. One is kind of short so they could even throw in man without fear, which by the way, with the movie coming out I'm surprised they released love and war instead of Man Without Fear.

I have dreams about a shelf with oversized hardcovers of Man Without Fear, Daredevil Visionaries:Frank Miller and Born Again to go with Yellow, Love and War, Daredevil vol. 1 and 2, and Elektra lives again.

[Tue Sorensen]

Bob Gale's issues were the best of vol. 2 yet. When they came out I was actually excited about getting the latest issue. Now I don't buy DD until I can get them at reduced prices. BMB is overrated, IMO, and I find his issues only marginally enjoyable, and find lots of things to criticize about them.

The Gale arc was classic and cool. The only thing that marred it was JQ's sabotaging of the beautiful Winslade art by having another artist ruin the arc's consistency (thus alienating writer Bob Gale from Marvel for the foreseeable future) - and all because he insisted that there had to be *extra* issues out, in addition to the ordinary monthly schedule that Winslade could have handled if they'd let him. "Sabotage" really is the only appropriate word.

[Michael Eidson]

Well this was a nice hint at Bendis' long term plans for DD. I wonder if the David Mack issues will be the "return of Echo" story he's been promising.

[Asbel]

I just can't abide Winslade's art, though far be it from me to criticize people for liking it, I like some pretty wacked out artists myself... It's just that his proportions are all off, and his perspective simply isn't... Anyway, I think the Return of Echo would have been a better mini than Target is shaping up to be (granted there's only one issue thus far), perhaps a second mini? I don't see why it would have to fit into main-title-continuity.
Return of Echo would also be best with JQ at the artistic wheel, but I don't think that's going to happen... Maybe if Mack does it in the style of Circle of Blood rather than his later, more surreal style, it would work?

--
Francis

[Alex Segura Jr.]

[quote]Originally posted by MindTricked:
<strong>Damn... I still can't believe (POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT!!!) that the White Tiger is dead. I have his first appearance, I belive, and now I have his last... but damn. I hope Bendis(!) does some follow-up on the repercussions.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, I guess I won't have to read #40 now...

Alex

[mike sangiacomo]

[quote]Originally posted by Michael Eidson:
<strong>Well this was a nice hint at Bendis' long term plans for DD. I wonder if the David Mack issues will be the "return of Echo" story he's been promising.</strong><hr></blockquote>

SANGIACOMO HJERE:
YES, the issues will feature the return of echo.
Andto the person who noted Gwen Stacy died 10 years earlier, so what? Bendis said the death of Elektra was the first time HE had ever read that in a comic book. Brian was only about 5 when Gwen died.
M
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[Asbel]

Does Frank Miller still hold to the fact that Elektra is dead? It seems like the general consensus is that she died, and now she's kind of still around but totally out of Matt's life. She's dead to Matt (despite her GREAT appearance in recent DD) and that's what's important...
It always seemed to me like a really interesting use of the characters-are-never-really-dead scenario when it came to Elektra.

--
Francis

[tralfaz]

I bought the Ultimate Daredevil/Elektra TPB and Im pretty pissed that they had a stupid sneakpeek in it for another TPB (The Echo story). I hate sneekpeeks!!! Friggin takes up pages that they could use for more story... in this case, they couldve put in a story about either Ulitmate Daredevil or Elektra.... but NO. They decide to shill out a promo for another soon to be TPB... And before you higher-than-thou loser geeks cry, "it's business, they could do whatever they want", I feel i was duped into paying 12 bucks.... i want my money back.

[Asbel]

So go out and buy the individual issues... of course, that'll come out to $12 too and you wont get a free preview of the Echo storyline... ;-)

Was it a preview for the already published "Parts of a Hole" or a new, upcoming arc?

--
Francis

[tralfaz]

[quote]Originally posted by Asbel:
<strong>So go out and buy the individual issues... of course, that'll come out to $12 too and you wont get a free preview of the Echo storyline... ;-)

Was it a preview for the already published "Parts of a Hole" or a new, upcoming arc?

--
Francis</strong><hr></blockquote>

no, the preview was for an upcoming Trade with the first story with Echo... which i already have the issues too... so very upsetting

oh well, at least Ive been cutting down on my Marvel books because of their TPBs which is a good thing..

just wish it was a preview for something new

[jawaplumber]

[quote]Originally posted by tralfaz:
<strong>

no, the preview was for an upcoming Trade with the first story with Echo... which i already have the issues too... so very upsetting

oh well, at least Ive been cutting down on my Marvel books because of their TPBs which is a good thing..

just wish it was a preview for something new</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, keep in mind that Marvel intended the Ultimate Daredevil/Elektra miniseries/TPB for potential new readers brought in from the movie next month, so ANYTHING extra included in the trade will be new to them. Besides, how many trades really have extra stories or pages in them? There are a few, sure, but not many at all. It's a bit unfair to expect Marvel to put brand new material in the back of a trade paperback of a series that only ended a week or so ago, rushed out to (again) be ready for new customers. If they were going to have a writer and artists provide new material, wouldn't they have included it in one of the original issues of the mini, as well? If they hadn't, and reserved it for the trade, then you'd have a bunch of people pissing and moaning that Marvel only did the extra story to make us buy the trade, even though we all have the original issues.

[tralfaz]

[quote]Originally posted by jawaplumber:
<strong>

Well, keep in mind that Marvel intended the Ultimate Daredevil/Elektra miniseries/TPB for potential new readers brought in from the movie next month, so ANYTHING extra included in the trade will be new to them. Besides, how many trades really have extra stories or pages in them? There are a few, sure, but not many at all. It's a bit unfair to expect Marvel to put brand new material in the back of a trade paperback of a series that only ended a week or so ago, rushed out to (again) be ready for new customers. If they were going to have a writer and artists provide new material, wouldn't they have included it in one of the original issues of the mini, as well? If they hadn't, and reserved it for the trade, then you'd have a bunch of people pissing and moaning that Marvel only did the extra story to make us buy the trade, even though we all have the original issues.</strong><hr></blockquote>


tru dat.

[MindTricked]

[quote]Originally posted by Alex Segura Jr.:
<strong>

Well, I guess I won't have to read #40 now...

Alex</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, damn - I do hope that was sarcasm. I gave the spoiler warning - in bold, so ya couldn't miss it - so I do hope that was sarcasm. *shrugs* If it wasn't - read it anyway. It's good, damnit.

[BENDIS]

hi guys...

first off, huge thanks to mike and to you who so avidly support our efforts on DD.

alex m. and bill s., both who i have worked with on dd, are two completely different kinds of artists.

alex produces dd digitally, and you cannot tell. alex is a major artist. want proof? here's a sneak peak at typhoid mary...

<a href="http://www.imagecomics.com/cgi-bin/wwwthreads/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=bendis&Number=103203&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5" target="_blank">http://www.imagecomics.com/cgi-bin/wwwthreads/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=bendis&Number=103203&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5</a>

[DF831]

I've all but stopped purchasing Daredevil although the new arc shows some promise. The pace of the book is just laborious. I could hardly distinguish one issue of the "Underboss" arc from another. All mood, atmosphere and dialogue with a thin plot. Another annoyance: Bendis' already-tired pop-culture references. It dates the book for future readers. The DVD dialogue in the 25 cents issue alone could be a worn-out reference in a deacde. I would think a writer would want their work to stand the test of time. What does a conversation about DVDs have to do with an issue of Daredevil anyway? One of the reasons Miller's run holds up so well is because of its timeless quality. It still seems fresh. Frankly, the too-cute-pop-culture references are also a problem in Mark Millar's Marvel work (Freddie Prinze Jr...will people even remember him in five years?). Perhaps Marvel is mandating these references so the books seem "hip" (ugh).

Oh well. At least Bendis can make a deadline. Anyone seen that second issue of The Target yet? Spider-Man/Black Cat?

At least Mack is back soon. His Daredevil arc put Kevin Smith's (Miller rehash) to shame and Echo is a character that deserves more page time.

[Asbel]

Going back to "Man Without Fear", does it fit directly into continuity? I can't help but think the characterizations are a little off from the original introduction of Elektra, not to mention how sharply it jibes with "Yellow".

--
Francis

[MichaelCoughlin]

[quote]Originally posted by BENDIS:
<strong>hi guys...

first off, huge thanks to mike and to you who so avidly support our efforts on DD.

alex m. and bill s., both who i have worked with on dd, are two completely different kinds of artists.

alex produces dd digitally, and you cannot tell. alex is a major artist. want proof? here's a sneak peak at typhoid mary...

<a href="http://www.imagecomics.com/cgi-bin/wwwthreads/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=bendis&Number=103203&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5" target="_blank">http://www.imagecomics.com/cgi-bin/wwwthreads/showflat.pl? Cat=&Board=bendis&Number=103203&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

DAMN! Is that? Could is be? Has DD ripped off Seinfeld? I mean, do I see.....nipple?

[Studio D Comics]

[quote]Originally posted by Burke 0011:
<strong>The last issue - Daredevil is looking for The Owl because he's looking to take over local crime since Kingpin is gone. Daredevil is interrogating criminals with things like "WHERE'S THE %#$%@$-ING OWL?!?!"

Somehow I just don't hear DD saying that.....</strong><hr></blockquote>


Yeah that's how I felt when I read it too. It took me out of feeling that this was DD/Matt Murdock.


later
don

[Asbel]

[quote]Originally posted by MichaelCoughlin:
<strong>

DAMN! Is that? Could is be? Has DD ripped off Seinfeld? I mean, do I see.....nipple?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Heh, that's exactly what everyone on the Bendis Board has been saying all day! Well, not the Seinfeld bit, but the nipple bit... Yes, that is nipple, if you want I can tell you the addresses of some other sites on the internet that feature nipples.

--
Francis

[dogisred]

I've read DD for many, many years. I was there from issue 28 of Vol. 1, and I tried to stick with him with the reboot, and long delays with the Smith/Quesada issues. I continued to buy the book after their run, but I can't work my way through the books anymore. I stopped around issue 24. I picked one up here and there, read it, put it down and didn't buy another one for a few months. The storylines were too stagnant. I didn't care about it. I did read the issue with DD saying "Where the @#%$&*#%%% is the Owl." and thought...hmmm, this doesn't sound like the DD I know, but maybe he has been through a great deal of stress and the writer thought that he would actually say something like this based on the stress, but then I go back to what Miller did, and nothing anyone could do could be more stressful than what the Kingpin put him through...Bullseye never made him cuss like that...hmmmmmmm. I guess I wasn't the only one that thought about it.
I noticed that no one on this board has mentioned the great issues done by Ann Nocenti (a GREAT but forgotten writer) and John Romita Jr. (first Typhoid Mary for those that don't knkow). Nocenti had the misfotune of following Miller's run, but she made the book her own and created some wonderful stories that are still a big part of Daredevil's life today. Those are the issues I'd like to see put in a hardback trade!!!!!

[Vigilante Monkey]

Before Kevin Smith, I didn't even give a crap Daredevil existed. Now he's one of favorite characters. Although Bendis' take on the book was an adjustment from the previous runs I read, it's now officially my favorite. Great, great, street level stuff. DD cussing out that thug, I think, is perfectly in character. This guy was raised in Hell's Kitchen for God's sake. Are you gonna' tell me that he never used harsh language growing up or when pummeling the bastards he's dealt with over the years? I tend to think of each writer's take as a window into a character. I to pretend that somewhere out there exists an undiluted, fully-developed world like ours that these characters exist in, and that each writer takes a stab at getting us there. Just like every widow has a differnt view, each writer gives us another piece of a character and their story. I think Bendis has given us the best window into Matt Murdock's life in recent memory, and I'll stick with the character for at least as long as he does. I don't get the criticisms on Bendis' pacing. I think the characters move the stories a long at just the right pace. If nothing else, I'm pissed I can't read them fast enough. I'm looking forward to the Typoid Mary stuff, just because I've really liked watching BMS re-invent these comic book characters as people in DD and Alias (and I practically run across the street when I know Ultimate Spidey is out). So, um, wow, I think I've rambled for a while, and I should probably be editing stuff, so, uh, me go now.

[dollman]

[quote]Originally posted by tralfaz:
<strong>


then what type of art do you see fitting this Daredevil comic?

I dont see imitiation. Maleev seems to be photo referencing in his work, especially the backgrounds, good stuff. art is all relative anyway</strong><hr></blockquote>


You're right, art is relative. Sorry, Maleev's art doesn't work for me, and failed to entice me to pick up DD on a regular basis, despite the story. I've never been a fan of artists who rely too much on shadows and dark scratchy tones to the point you can't recognize which character they're drawing. To that extent, I wouldn't want to see Jae Lee on any book either.

In terms of artists who I've enjoyed on DD, Miller, David Mazzechilli (sp?), and Joe Q. Again, it's all relative, but I still regard Mazzechilli as the best ever DD artist, with the Born Again series and Batman Year One as his finest works in comics.

[theodoros]

[quote]Originally posted by tralfaz:
<strong>I bought the Ultimate Daredevil/Elektra TPB and Im pretty pissed that they had a stupid sneakpeek in it for another TPB (The Echo story). I hate sneekpeeks!!! Friggin takes up pages that they could use for more story... in this case, they couldve put in a story about either Ulitmate Daredevil or Elektra.... but NO. They decide to shill out a promo for another soon to be TPB... And before you higher-than-thou loser geeks cry, "it's business, they could do whatever they want", I feel i was duped into paying 12 bucks.... i want my money back.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The 4 issues cost 4x2,25 = 9$ right?
The tpb cost 12$? right?

The tpb was more expensive??

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Burke 0011]

"Great, great, street level stuff. DD cussing out that thug, I think, is perfectly in character. This guy was raised in Hell's Kitchen for God's sake. Are you gonna' tell me that he never used harsh language growing up or when pummeling the bastards he's dealt with over the years? "


For me, to reiterate:
It's not the fact that DD is cursing - yeah, like I live in some dream world where I figure the guy has never cursed in his life - especially growing up where and how he did. And being that POWERS is one of my top books, I obviously don;t have any problems with a character using language like that. [The dialogue from Dragonfist and Dr. Escabar in the latest issue has to be some of the best dialogue I have read in the past couple of years!!]

But I'm talking about the subtleties of characterization - if anything Matt/DD has always been about this 'quiet rage' when he's pissed. My fav example of this was from the Man Without Fear limited where he was chasing the guy involved in his father's murder - the guy is doing all this stuff to stop Matt and Matt just keeps repeating, overand over in a normal voice "I don't want to have to kill you..." - but you know full well he will if he has to.

Now again, this is not COMPARING Miller writing to Bendis. A new writer is his own person and he has to go for his own 'take' on the character - but also realizing that this IS an established character who has traits and elements to them we've become accustomed to over the years.

First off I respect the HELL out of Bendis for saying that he's not trying to do any kind of 'emulation' of Miller's work because that would be degrading or putting it down in a sense (in my mind I was like FINALLY, someone gets it). And I'm not saying I hate the book because of the little speedbumps (ie - that chracterization quirk that through me). Marvel still keeps getting my $$ EVERY damn month for DD. And just cause I have that one little problem with the way Bendis handles the character doesn't change the fact that he has to be my fav writer out there right now (although I would like to see an 'angry bald men' <as Bendis himself tagged them in his letter column> cage match between him and Rucka for the Crown of Comics Writing) and I love his stuff.

All it is is that that dialogue didn't ring true to ME. If you've only been collecting the book for the past few years then you might have a prob seeing my argument but at least one DD veteran seemed to see what I was talking about. Kingpin or Bullseye? I might have been able to buy it more. But the Owl?.... It just missed me is all.

In closing too, Bendis is one hell of a gracious and funny guy in person as well. Had the pleasure of meeting him (and Oeming actually) at the MegaCon in Orlando last year and he was a GREAT guy to talk to. Happy that I got to tell him in person that HIS work was the reason I came back to collecting after a few years of dropping comics (in the 'wasteland' of the mid to late ninties).

And to Bendis - hope the wife and Baby Bendis are doing well! :D

[Grendel Prime]

Speaking of Maleev art... did anyone else get the impression that Stilt Man in the 25-cent issue of Daredevil was the spitting image of our own Bald Beautiful Bendis?

I've always thought Typhoid Mary was the shiz-nit. Better by far than Elektra. It'll be awesome to see her back.

[Mick Fury]

[quote]Originally posted by Barry:
<strong>I'm convinced that I'm just about the only superhero comics fan who dislikes the Bendis run on Daredevil or his work in general.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Nope, you're not the only one. I can't stand his work on Daredevil. Can't speak about his other work, but his Daredevil is IMO the most overrated comic I've ever had the displeasure of reading. Now, I'm not questioning anyone else's taste. Maybe I just don't "get" it. Also when I say "most overrated" I don't mean it's the worst comic ever. It's just that the gap between the opinion of the masses and my personal opinion has never been wider.

Mike

[Vigilante Monkey]

Sorry Burke, wasn't trying to single anybody out. I was surprised by how many people, in general, seemed to be fascinated by that one piece of dialogue. I admit, it surprised me the first time I read it, but it didn't bug me that much. Like I said, I'm pretty new to DD, but intend to keep reading for a while. I guess this proves that people actually do read what I write! Weird.

[Vigilante Monkey]

Oh yeah, that last issue of Powers nearly made me pee myself laughing. Then the last page left my jaw hanging open. Yeah Bendis!

[Alex Segura Jr.]

[quote]Originally posted by MindTricked:
<strong>

Well, damn - I do hope that was sarcasm. I gave the spoiler warning - in bold, so ya couldn't miss it - so I do hope that was sarcasm. *shrugs* If it wasn't - read it anyway. It's good, damnit.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah, it was sarcasm. No worries. My Daredevils never go unread. But spoiler warnings work better when
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[Burke 0011]

quote:
"Oh yeah, that last issue of Powers nearly made me pee myself laughing. Then the last page left my jaw hanging open. Yeah Bendis!"


Dragonfist smacking Escabar in the nuts with his Chucks..... god that was great. And yeah - great ending - can't wait for next issue!

[mayhem]

O.K, for all the three people who can actually be bothered to read the fourth page of replies, here's my two cents.
First, Bendis's run has been cool IMO, the best thing to happen in the title for a long time. Now I'm no sycophantic fan who worships the ground BMB walks on, I'm saying that from an objective perspective. As much as I'm enjoying it I stll have many problems with the stories thus far, problems others have mentioned here already. One being the pace and lack of action. That second arc droned on so slowly when there were plenty of opportunities for more fisticuffs; I mean how long was that battle with Mr Hyde, it was over in about three panels. So he loses points for that.

My major problem with Bendis is his lack of following continuity. I'm not one who nit picks over little things, but relatiuvely big things bug the hell out of me. Example; his ID has been leaked to the papers before in the 'Fall from Grace' story. Now as much as that story line was an abomination and should never be mentioned again, it still happened, and I find it hard to believe that his secret I.D. could be leaked to the papers again and there is not one mention of it happening before.

As for the dialogue with the Owl, well I don't see what the problem is. In Miller's issues we see Daredevil beating a hood up saying, 'spill it punk', and in an issue of Spiderman (#396 I think) we see DD leaping down to hassle a pack of crooks and he yells aggressively, 'where's Owlsley', practically the same thing. So he has spoken like this before. If anything the tone is perhaps a little harsher, but then he is angrier and under a lot of stress at the moment, so it can be put down to being from this. At the end of the day, the language is due to Bendis' vision of DD as being a pulp hero like the Shadow, so that is why he speaks in this manner, but I don't see it as being a major departure from the character in any way. It is still DD at least IMO.

I was going to defend Gale but I'm taking up too much space as it is, just don't forget his story was cut short and thus ruined by Marvel so who knows how good or bad it really was.

And as for Typhoid, someone asked why are we getting excited, well what can I say? A more unique villain you'll never find, she's a twisted nutcase with at least three different personalities, one of which is a feminist who likes to torture men through their emotions as well as more traditional methods like sticking a sword in their guts. She is a very tortured, conflicted and deadly character, as sexy as she is demented. It'll be interesting to see what BMB does with such a fascinating and complelling character.

[The Power of Shazam]

I love the current Daredevil vol. 2 ongoing series. It truly has become one of my favourite titles to read every month. I loved the all the writers who have written the series, from Kevin Smith to Brian M. Bendis. I liked Bob Gale's arc (issues #20-25) as well. It really leads up to the the recent stories that Bendis did the past year, with his secret identity being revealed to the public, before Matt Murdock put up the lawsuit to challenge the "false news" of his being DD. What Matt had done back in Bob Gale's arc was perjury, having Spider-Man dress up as DD in the courtroom while he was doing his lawyer duties at the same time.

Bob Gale did write an interesting story in those issues. I liked the female lawyer character that he introduced to defend Daredevil. She would have been a good romantic interest for Matt/DD, perhaps she'll be brought back by another writer one day. I find it surprising that many people seem to hate it. Bob Gale was the writer/producer of the Back to the Future films, and he also wrote part of the Batman: No Man's Land arc issues. He should write more comic books in the future.

[d477wt]

i think his run is boring.if i wanted a book about matt murdock i would ask for one.the name of the comic is daredevil.i like his ultimate spiderman but when i read his 25 cents daredevil it did nothing for me. i dont see the genius people are talking about.its boring and the art is boring.until him and the artist is off the book im not touching it.i think that people who see the movie will see this and be dissappointed. :)

[J.C. Bakken]

For those of you who wonder, here are the text from <a href="http://www.manwithoutfear.com" target="_blank">The Man Without Fear Page</a>

Here is a listing of hardcover collections of Daredevil material. This section is new, so watch for future updates soon!

Daredevil Visionaries: Frank Miller Vol.1 reprints DD#158-167 Vol.2 reprints DD#168-182 Vol.3 reprints DD#183-191, Bizarre Adventures #28, What If (Vol. 1) #28, 34 (the Bizarre Adventures story is incorrectly reprinted... pages are out of order) Daredevil Visionaries: Kevin Smith
Reprints DD (Vol. 2) #1-8
Includes CD-ROM with #0 Cybercomic and commentary/art by Smith/Quesada/Palmiotti
Produced by Graphitti Designs (limited printing) Daredevil: The Man Without Fear
Reprints limited series by Miller/Romita Jr.
Produced by Graphitti Designs (limited printing) Daredevil: Yellow (oversized hardcover)
Reprints limited series by Loeb/Sale
Produced by Marvel Marvel Masterworks: Daredevil Vol. 1 reprints DD#1-11 (2 printings exist) Vol. 2 reprints DD#12-21
Produced by Marvel Daredevil Volume 1 (oversized hardcover) Reprints DD (II) #1-11,13-15
Produced by Marvel Daredevil Volume 2 (oversized hardcover) Reprints DD (II) #26-37
Produced by Marvel Daredevil/Elektra: Love and War (oversized hardcover)
Reprints DD: Love and War & Elektra: Assassin #1-8
Produced by Marvel Elektra Assassin
Reprints limited series by Miller/Sienkiewicz
Produced by Graphitti Designs (limited) Elektra Lives Again
Original oversized hardcover by Miller (multiple printings)
Produced by Epic/Marvel Complete Frank Miller Spider-Man (oversized hardcover)
Reprints Miller's work on Spectacular Spider-Man and more
Produced by Marvel


Here is a listing of the trade paperbacks available for Daredevil. This is a new section, so watch for updates and more info soon!

Essential Daredevil
Stan Lee, Bill Everett et al
Vol.1 reprints V1 #1-25
Daredevil Visionaries: Frank Miller
Frank Miller, Roger McKenzie, and Klaus Janson Vol.1 reprints V1 #158-161, 163-167 Vol.2 reprints V1 #168-182 Vol.3 reprints V1 #183-191, Bizarre Adventures #28, What If? #25, 28
Daredevil: Marked For Death
Frank Miller, Roger McKenzie, and Klaus Janson
Reprints V1 #159-161, 163, 164
Daredevil: Gang War
Frank Miller and Klaus Janson
Reprints V1 #169-172, 180
Daredevil: Love's Labor Lost
Denny O'Neil and David Mazzucchelli/Frank Miller and John Buscema
Reprints V1 #215-217, 219-222, 225, 226
Daredevil: Born Again (Daredevil Legends Vol.2)
Frank Miller and David Mazzucchelli
Reprints V1 #227-233
Daredevil: Fall of the Kingpin
D.G. Chichester and Lee Weeks
Reprints V1 #297-300
Daredevil: Fall From Grace
D.G. Chichester, Scott McDaniel and Hector Collazo
Reprints V1 #319-325
Marvel's Finest: Daredevil
Kevin Smith, Joe Quesada and Jimmy Palmiotti
Reprints V2 #1-3
Daredevil Visionaries: Kevin Smith
Kevin Smith, Joe Quesada and Jimmy Palmiotti
Reprints V2 #1-8
Daredevil: Parts of a Hole
David Mack, Joe Quesada, Jimmy Palmiotti, Rob Haynes, and David Ross
Reprints V2 #9-15
Daredevil: Wake Up
Brian Michael Bendis and David Mack
Reprints V2 #16-19
Daredevil: Underboss
Brian Michael Bendis and Alex Maleev
Reprints V2 #26-31
Daredevil: Out
Brian Michael Bendis and Alex Maleev
Reprints V2 #32-37

Limited Series
Black Widow
Reprints Black Widow #1-3 and Black Widow: Breakdown #1-3
Daredevil: Love and War
Original Graphic Novel
Daredevil: Movie Adaptation
Reprints DD Movie One-Shot, Ultimate DD & Elektra #1, DD Vol.2 #32 and Spider-Man: Tangled Web #14
Daredevil: The Man Without Fear (Daredevil Legends Vol.3)
Reprints Daredevil: The Man Without Fear #1-5
Daredevil: Ninja
Reprints Daredevil: Ninja #1-3
Daredevil/Spider-Man
Reprints Daredevil/Spider-Man #1-4
Daredevil: Yellow (Daredevil Legends Vol.1)
Reprints Daredevil: Yellow #1-6
Elektra: Assassin
Reprints Elektra: Assassin #1-8
Elektra Lives Again
Original Hardcover (also in TPB form)
Elektra Saga
Reprints Elektra Saga #1-4 (edited version of DD issues)
Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra
Reprints Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra #1-4

Other
Greatest Spider-Man and Daredevil Team-Ups


When is next cristmas again? ;) :D

[StevenG]

[quote]Originally posted by Burke 0011:
<strong>Now, as much as I'll kiss the man's ass, I'll say that do I like and collect Daredevil (Maleev's art is something so unique) - I appreciate Bendis NOT trying to 'channel' Miller and tack his own course for the book, making it more a crime noir/drama, which suits the book just fine - but I find that I can never truly and wholeheartedly 100% 'buy' his Daredevil characterization. When I read the book, I don't think "Hey, it's Matt Murdock/Daredevil".... I end up thinking "Hey, it's Bendis' Matt Murdock/Darevdevil". Every once in a while, Daredevil will just say something that makes me go 'Geez.... I think I know the character after all these years.. would he really SAY that?" </strong><hr></blockquote>

That's the collaborative nature of working on the Big Two's characters...you have the choice of perfectly mimicking another writer's voice (as filtered through that character when they wrote the book), or taking it to new places, places that, frankly, only your voice would take it.

Does that mean I like Kevin Smith's work (esp. the shoddy and tacky Spider-Man/Black Cat)? Of course not. Not all writers should write all characters, and not all writers write a particular character consistently. But Bendis will never (hopefully) write like Miller because he shouldn't.

I hate to say it, but I have to give the man props...despite the fact that his characters never shut up (it's a visual medium, people!) and the occasional blip like the aforementioned, he's got me interested in Daredevil as a character...no small feat with someone like Matt Murdock.