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MattBrady
06-16-2003, 06:30 AM
<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/sangiacomo/Epic2.jpg" width="200" height="304" border="0" hspace="2" align="right">by Mike San Giacomo

Two weeks ago before we were so rudely interrupted by real-time looks at artists involved in “Nowhere Man,” I was at a point where, basically, my whole concept of an invisible reporter who goes to Iraq and kills Saddam Hussein was dead in the water.

For those coming in really late, comic critic Mike San Giacomo, (me) responded to a challenge from Marvel to write a comic for the soon-to-be-relaunched Epic line.

My character, Nowhere Man, a newspaper reporter who can turn invisible, struck someone’s fancy at Marvel. Two weeks ago my third version of full scripts for issues one and two were in and Assistant Editor Stephanie Moore had some suggestions.

There was this wonderful episode of Fawlty Towers starring Monty Python alumnus John Cleese in which he responds to his wife’s demands by saying, “Yes dear, and would you like me to move the building a bit to the left?”

I use that line a lot.

I didn’t say it to Assistant Editor Stephanie Moore when she suggested I start my series with the origin of the character.

It would change the whole complexion of the story I wanted to tell. It would set everything on a new path. But her suggestion was not the worst thing I would hear. That came in another e-mail a few days later.

In it, she suggested that maybe I should consider taking on a writing partner.

Whoa.

A writing partner?

God, I must really suck.

What the heck ever made me think I could write a comic?

I gotta tell you kids, this hit like the Hulk.

No matter how nice it was made to sound, to me it read like this:

“My God you stink. What can we do to dissuade you from carrying on this charade any further? We were kidding when we offered you a book. It was a joke. Now go away and leave the writing to the pros.”

A writing partner would not have worked because I would have no idea what to tell him to do. To be honest, I was not clear on what the problem was. I mean, they liked the concept; they liked the dialogue, where was I going wrong?

The editorial direction was rather vague.

I wrote a quick note back to Stephanie which simply said I would take one more crack at the script over the weekend, writing it from scratch beginning at the beginning, with the character’s origin.

If she didn’t like it, I was gone. No hard feelings.

Hey, I gave it my best shot and if it didn’t work, so be it. But I would rise or fall on my own merits, not on someone else’s coattails.

By this time I had already told my family and friends that the comic was a “go.” I imagined how stupid I would feel letting them all know that it didn’t work out.

At least I would have my weekends free again.

A few hours later I noticed an e-mail message from Stephanie. I felt a little uneasy as I opened it, figuring it would be a kiss-off.

I was wrong.

It was short and simple, “Ok,” it said. “Give it a try.”

Well, that’s cool.

I drove from Cleveland to Detroit the next morning to work on a real-life story about a guy named Mr. Daddy who was popped for kidnapping a Cleveland teenager and forcing her to join his prostitution ring. Allegedly. The guy goes to trial next week.

The whole ride there, about 150 miles and change, I thought about amplifying the origin of Jack Baxter, the Invisible Man. I had a pretty solid origin story already, but I figured since I had to go back to the character’s beginning I might as well work on a whole story arc.

The plots percolated in the back of my brain while I sat in court taking notes as young women talked about life in “the life” at Mr. Daddy’s first court hearing. Funny how we can multi-task.

By the time I wrote the story and drove back home a day later, I had four whole issues all laid out in my head.

This adventure would take place before the current adventure and was pretty darn cool.

I closeted myself in my office and started to work on Friday night. By Saturday night, I had two full issues scripted and a trash can full of rejected print outs.

By Sunday evening I had a solid story synopsis for issue number #3 and #4. Heck, this one even had an honest-to-God super villain.

I was pretty darn proud of this puppy.

I printed it out and put it in an envelope. I’d mail it from work the next day.

Here are the first few pages:

<blockquote>A NEW BEGINNING:

NOWHERE MAN

PAGE ONE
Half-page

Scene opens in a man’s bachelor apartment.

Jack Baxter, 23, average height and weight, brown hair, is in bed. Sheets are a kid’s western motif, cowboys and Indians. On the wall is one of those hip-swinging Elvis clock; a framed charcoal drawing of a beautiful young woman, rows of books in a bookcase.

The place is a mess. There’s a half-open pizza box on the floor next to the bed. Clothes and shoes tossed all over the place. A woman’s bra is slung over a chair.

Jack’s alone in bed. He’s got a pillow over his head to keep out the bright summer sunlight streaming in through the curtainless windows.

There’s a phone next to his bed and a digital clock with large, red numbers reading 10:35.

Show a large calendar on the wall indicating June, 1992.

The phone is ringing. (Show the words “brrrringgg” extending from the phone to the wall and then bouncing off at an angle. Ringing off the wall, get it?)

Smaller panel, Jack poking his head out from under the pillow, reaching for the phone.

Next: He has the phone to his ear. Has not said hello yet, show words coming out of the receiver:

VINNIE: Jack you lazy bastard.
BAXTER: Vinnie? What?
VINNIE: LOOK AT THE CLOCK. It’s 10:30 and there’s been a huge explosion at the Amchem plant. Schwartz is gonna kick your ass.

Baxter looks at the clock and says “Crap.”

PAGE 2

Exterior of Today’s News newspaper building, a blocky, grimy kind of joint.

Next Panel:

Really hectic newsroom, very small. Show people running all over the place. Baxter and the photographer, Vinnie, are sitting on a bench.

Vinnie is 22, tall guy, big eyes, bushy hair, beard, wears John Lennon wire-frame glasses and a t-shirt that says “I’m a newsman. And your whiny, self-centered opinion would be?” (I really have a shirt like that.)

VINNIE: I feel stupid just sitting here.
BAXTER: Join the club.

Same scene on the bench as they talk. Behind them people are rushing all over.

VINNIE: We’re like the only ones not at Amchem.
BAXTER: No kidding.
VINNIE: We must really suck.
BAXTER: We’ve only been here a year. They don’t trust us.
VINNIE: That and we both overslept. You were later than me.
BAXTER: Baxter stands Well, here’s where I save your sorry ass.</blockquote>

Next week: Does Jack save Vinnie’s sorry ass?

To be continued…

<center><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/sangiacomo/noweherman-logo2.jpg" width="500" height="156" border="0" hspace="2"></center>

Mike Sangiacomo, a freelance writer for Newsarama and other sources, was invited to share his experiences with pitching to Epic by Newsarama's editor, Matt Brady, in the interest of keeping readers well informed. Brady advises Newsarama readers that he is aware of the inherent conflict of interest presented by journalists working for a publisher they cover. Sangiacomo’s regular column Journey Into Comics has and will continue to be found in the Opinion/Editorial section of Newsarama. Brady has not, nor does he plan to pitch to Epic himself.

mario boon
06-16-2003, 09:35 AM
Jeez Mike, are you that desparate to have a book published by Marvel?
Let's check the facts: they liked your idea at first but now it's not your story anymore they want to tell; it's their ideas being ghosted by you.

I also have a bit of experience from reworking story content but I would never allow myself to be the writing excuse of an editor

And their suggestions are not good ones btw. I liked your initial idea best

Steve Wasser
06-16-2003, 11:13 PM
Keep on at it, Mike!

When all of the work is done, thousands of people will enjoy your creation.

This will all be more than worth the effort.

mike sangiacomo
06-16-2003, 11:30 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mario boon:
[QB]Jeez Mike, are you that desparate to have a book published by Marvel?
/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mike San Giacomo here:
Ah, the conceit of youth.
No, I was not desperate for such a story to be published, I considered it a challenge. The story was still mine, Marvel wanted it to appear in a different order, origin first.
Am I so arrogant that I can't accept criticism and direction? Nope. Is that desperation? Hell no. I made my position clear and took a stand. I was ready to walk away, but I thought it was worth trying it their way.
It is their sandbox am I playing in, ergo, their rules.
Writers, real writers not posers, are used to multiple rewrites. It's part of the game. If you can't handle it, don't play.
And keep reading, next week it gets interesting.
M

Vacuumboy9
06-16-2003, 11:51 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mike sangiacomo:
Ah, the conceit of youth.
No, I was not desperate for such a story to be published, I considered it a challenge. The story was still mine, Marvel wanted it to appear in a different order, origin first.
Am I so arrogant that I can't accept criticism and direction? Nope. Is that desperation? Hell no. I made my position clear and took a stand. I was ready to walk away, but I thought it was worth trying it their way.
It is their sandbox am I playing in, ergo, their rules.
Writers, real writers not posers, are used to multiple rewrites. It's part of the game. If you can't handle it, don't play.
And keep reading, next week it gets interesting.
[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">These are a bit more than multiple re-writes, esp. if, as you say in the end, they have even more they want you to change.

You say the story was still yours, and then you also say it's their sandbox. So which is it? If it IS yours, then you should have more control of it than you're already having. The story is slowly becoming less and less yours and more and more "Mike San Giacomo and friends." You said in the article you didn't want a co-writer; it sounds like you already have one.

I don't think it's the conceit of youth or someone "posing" as a writer to think this is drastic. Would you put up with this from your newspaper editor? an editor here at Newsarama? You know your stuff, even if you're used to writing something else. You've got good instincts; this whole changing of the origin thing strikes me as a very bad idea.

Karl V
06-17-2003, 02:04 AM
Welcome to the world of publishing.

The only work that isn't a co-write of an editor and writer is called fan fiction.

Doctor Defiance
06-17-2003, 02:36 AM
Mike,

As a guy who's been busting his ass for many years to break into several creative lines of work (some of the busting has produced quality results), I'm really enjoying the description of your journey.

Please, please, please, continue your ongoing column "My Epic Journey..."

I, and I'm sure there are many others, truly appreciate this peak into the process you're going through -

As to your re-write - I don't see how this affects your original story at all. You seem enthusiastic about writing the pre-amble telling your anti-hero's origin... and that's what's most important. Writing a comic is in many ways like making a film - sure, it starts off with one guy and his vision for a story, but soon enough, there are many people involved in the process. The artist and editor are each going to influence the work to a large degree. As long as you, as the originator, are pleased with the colaborative results, then that's all that truly matters.

There's another issue here - that people frequently misinterpret an editor's role -

Frankly, the fact that your editor is spurring you to improve your work, is a good thing. Just from your posts, I can tell that you are an effective writer... unfortunately, (and I often suffer from this), it doesn't mean that you've told a great "story." By encouraging you to re-visit your tale from different angles, your editor is effectively increasing the breadth and range of your story.

Man, I'm lovin' this column.

Keep it coming, I'm here to see how the ride ends.

Doc

ticknart
06-17-2003, 02:45 AM
Thank goodness for this column. I think I'll be a little better prepared if one of my submissions actually gets accepted. I am, however, more concerned about all the work I'd be putting into an issue or two and not get any money. Has Mike gotten his $500 check yet?

Karl V
06-17-2003, 03:05 AM
Yes, forgive my ignorance here. I realize I've probably spun off a few topics and forgotten to give praise.
Thanks for the column. It's great research, and great insight into the creative process.

drss
06-17-2003, 05:16 AM
Well, I mentioned my views about the very same thing before. And it just seems that they are getting more and more ridiculous, I hope the next installment changes that.

Their sandbox, their rules, no doubt. But it is sad that the owners of that sandbox must take it upon themselves to bully those they invited to play there in the first place.

You dont piss in their pool, but they piss in yours.. and then they make you swim in it. How Marvelous.

Todd VerBeek
06-17-2003, 07:44 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Vacuumboy9:
<strong>You say the story was still yours, and then you also say it's their sandbox. So which is it?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's Marvel's Universe and Marvel's printing press; it's his story. The fact that you and a few others here consider yourselves better authorities than him on that last point is more than a little bizarre.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>Would you put up with this from your newspaper editor?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't speak for Mike, but if I were writing my first feature story for publication in a newspaper, I'd expect even worse. ("Your lead is all wrong. Start with this stuff down in paragraph 5 and move that other part down below the reaction quote. And you didn't even explain who this guy is! You want me to get somebody to do a rewrite with you? But nice sentence structure. I think we can make this work.") This is how sausages actually get made, and no, it's not as pretty as you imagined it would be. And if you think this is bad, I beg you to never ever go near a Hollywood studio.

mitchell breitweiser
06-17-2003, 08:50 AM
"And if you think this is bad, I beg you to never ever go near a Hollywood studio."

well spoken Todd.

As artist for Nowhere Man, I have seen first hand what Mike is going through. And I have had the pleasure of meeting with editor, Stephanie Moore. both are great people, who are working for toward the same goal, even if they have different ways to get there. Mike has created a cool concept that can be told a # of different ways. A true maleable creation as any great work of fiction is. Stephanie is doing her best to find the best way to get to the finished product. After all, her job is to sell as many books as possible. Hats off to both of you. Its kinda like playing a football game where the quarterback doesnt agree with the coaches call, but when the play scores them a touchdown, even the quarteback realizes it was a great call. Thats not to say that the quartebacks play wouldnt have scored the same goal, but ultimately its the coaches call. Remember that the editors are playing on the same team as you are, and, like in football, its the fans that reap all the benifits.
Best,

Vacuumboy9
06-17-2003, 09:54 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Todd VerBeek:
<strong>It's Marvel's Universe and Marvel's printing press; it's his story. The fact that you and a few others here consider yourselves better authorities than him on that last point is more than a little bizarre.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Never said that it wasn't his story, just that it was a little less his story than originally.

Some people here want to make it look like that those of us who are throwing out warnings are A) ignorant to how the writing process works and B) unrealistic in our expectations of editorial involvement. I know how it works, and I would expect an editor to ask some changes be made. That IS their job. but there ARE times when those changes that are asked to be made are too much, and I think this situation is getting close to that point, if it's not there already.

And for the record, I have no problems with the changes Stephanie asked to be made, except for the editorial mandate against flashbacks which is making him move his origin. Which is stupid.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>I can't speak for Mike, but if I were writing my first feature story for publication in a newspaper, I'd expect even worse. ("Your lead is all wrong. Start with this stuff down in paragraph 5 and move that other part down below the reaction quote. And you didn't even explain who this guy is! You want me to get somebody to do a rewrite with you? But nice sentence structure.") This is how sausages actually get made, and no, it's not as pretty as you imagined it would be. And if you think this is bad, I beg you to never ever go near a Hollywood studio.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But this is NOT his first feature. He HAS been writing for a while and, from what I've seen, knows his stuff. The choices he originally made for the story's structure seem perfectly reasonable to me, and would to most readers. But an editorial mandate is forcing him to change something that he himself admits he is not comfortable changing.

And just because a Hollywood studio interferes MORE, doesn't mean that THAT is right or that THIS is not interference.

I'm SURE that Stephanie knows her stuff. It's the few points we've seen that seem to be across the board policies (anti-flashback and when he was asked to stretch things) that seem ludicrous changes to me.

But you're right; we'll have to wait and see if this things is a touchdown first before we can even be armchair quarterbacks. But if you don't want people complaining about the behind the scenes stuff, then don't go on Project Greenlight. :)

Todd VerBeek
06-17-2003, 02:32 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Vacuumboy9:
<strong>But this is NOT his first feature. He HAS been writing for a while and, from what I've seen, knows his stuff.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What comics has he written? Being a journalist and reviewer and so on is a big help. He knows comics and he knows how to tell a story (though he usually doesn't get to make them up). But that ain't the same as writing comics. And I speak here as a (by all accounts) darn good writer of essays and reviews myself; I know that I'm still a newbie when it comes to scripting comics.