PDA

View Full Version : JiC: THUNDER ARCHITECT: MARC ANDREYKO


MattBrady
03-01-2003, 08:00 AM
<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/lightning_t.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/lightning_t.jpg" width="175" height="311" border="0" align="right" alt="Lightning - character designs by Max Fiumara and Sebastian Fiumara"></a>by Mike Sangiacomo

By the time Marc Andreyko was born in 1970, the Tower Comics T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents series had been over for a year.

He caught it on one of the series revivals for the now defunct DeLuxe Comics and loved the characters so much that he tracked "as many beat-up copies of the original series (1965-1969) as he could find."

Starting in June, the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents live again and Andreyko gets to write it. The series starts fresh with familiar heroes like the super-swift Lightning; the powerhouse Dynamo; the body-jumping NoMan; the telepathic, telekinetic Menthor and the flying hero, Raven.

"I finally get to write a series that I would love to read," said Andreyko, who grew up in Mentor, OH, graduated from Kent State University and knocked around Cleveland until 1997 when he moved to the West Coast.

His previous comics included co-writing Torso, recounting Cleveland's "Torso Murders" with another Clevelander, Brian Bendis. Starting in May, Andreyko writes a new series from Image Comics, Sam and Twitch, Case Files, which reprises a detective series Bendis wrote for Image.

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/no-man.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/no-man_t.jpg" width="165" height="264" border="0" align="left" alt="NoMan - character designs by Max Fiumara and Sebastian Fiumara"></a>The reason Andreyko is so excited about the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents is obvious to anyone who read the series. The comic was somehow different from the other books on the shelves in the mid-to-late sixties. Art by Wally Wood, Reed Crandall, Gil Kane, Mike Sekowsky and others never looked so good, but it was the writing that stood out. The stories were more clever, more adult.

Where Superman fought evil because it was his mission, the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents were essentially hired hands who grew into the job. A secret arm of the United Nations had uncovered a cache of devices that could turn ordinary men into superhumans.

As the scientists slowly figured out how the mysterious devices worked, they gave them to agents. Several times, the agents could not handle the tools and new hosts were sought. Because there were many devices to be analyzed, new agents appeared slowly with the promise of more.

The devices were flawed. Lightning's super-swift suit accelerated his aging process. Dynamo's belt only lasted one hour. Menthor's helmet altered the brain of the wearer, turning the agent who wore it from an evil double-agent to a force for good.

There were few routine stories, most offered a novel twist on the classic superhero comic.

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/Dynamo.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/Dynamo_t.jpg" width="165" height="275" border="0" align="right" alt="Dynamo - character designs by Max Fiumara and Sebastian Fiumara"></a>News of the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents return started leaking out last summer. Some were skeptical because the series was "supposed" to have been relaunched a half-dozen times in the past 15 years and each time something went wrong. T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents also hold the record of having appeared in more comic companies than any other team including: Tower, Deluxe, Solson, JC Comics, Archie Comics and Noble Comics.

Oddly enough, each appearance was good regardless of the writer or the company. It's almost as if the characters are so brilliantly conceived that a writer just follows along, which is precisely what Andreyko has found.

"I had some discussions with editor Dan Didio last year at the San Diego Convention and he later sent me the bible of the series," said Andreyko, referring to an outline of a character's background, powers, friends, foes and concepts that writers must follow. "I started working on the series and it just flowed out of me. Writing the book has been one of my best experiences in comics. After reading the bible for the book, I was immediately flooded with ideas. And Dan is easily the best editor I’ve ever worked with. His energy and enthusiasm are infectious. Talking to him only serves to jazz me up even more about the book!

"I know writers say this all the time, but these characters took on lives of their own," he said.

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/menthor.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/menthor_t.jpg" width="150" height="250" border="0" align="left" alt="Menthor - character designs by Max Fiumara and Sebastian Fiumara"></a>When DC Comics released the wonderful $50 hardcover, archived edition of the first four issues from 1965-66 around Christmas, the fans started holding their breath. If $50 sounds steep, consider that the originals would cost over $500.

"I was told I had the series in December and I have been bursting to talk about it ever since," said Andreyko. "But I had to keep quiet until DC announced it."

One of the reasons for DC's reluctance was the previous failed T.H.U.N.D.E.R. revival attempts.

Andreyko said the new T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents series takes place in its own universe, a world much like our own. Everything changes the day Alpha Humans, people with different super-powers, begin appearing all over the Earth.

"The United Nations tracks each of these as they would a nuclear missile," Andreyko said. "They form the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents to act as a security force to deal with them, sort of like the U.N. weapons inspectors. "

There will be two issues released in June to kick off the new series. Andreyko said he would slowly introduce the agents into the storyline over the first six issues.

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/agent.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/agent_t.jpg" width="165" height="274" border="0" align="right" alt="a THUNDER Agent - character designs by Max Fiumara and Sebastian Fiumara"></a>"The only agent in costume in the first issue is Lightning, but in that issue we also see the men who will eventually become Dynamo and NoMan," he said. "That issue takes place inside the Mall of America. The one change we had to make was to give the heroes new names for their secret identities. Wally Wood had a habit of naming his characters after real-life friends and we didn't feel comfortable using those names."

Andreyko said the long-overdue T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents series will deal in real world events, real places. "We won't make up fake countries like Genosha and Quarac," he said. "The agents will be heading to the Middle East and later to Chechnya."

Andreyko is confident that the new series will appeal to fans of the old series and those who never heard of the title.

“The first arc just sets the stage for what’s to come,” Andreyko said. “We meet the major players and see how they become THUNDER Agents and some of the inner workings of the organization. And there are hints and plot threads that will be explored in the first year and a half that are sprinkled throughout #1-6. I've got enough material to write 50 issues. It's going to be great."

For more on DC's THUNDER Agents, click <a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Thunder.htm" target="_blank"> here</a>.

Michael Sangiacomo is a statewide news reporter for the Plain Dealer newspaper in Cleveland, Ohio. His syndicated "Journey Into Comics" weekly column on the state of the comic book business, can be found in newspapers and at the Newsarama website. His monthly comic book column appears the first Saturday of each month in the Plain Dealer Arts page and is syndicated through Newhouse Newspapers. He also writes a twice-monthly audiobooks review column covering crime thrillers and mysteries that can be seen at <a href="http://www.audiobookstoday.com" target="_blank">www.audiobookstoday.com</a>

Kevin T. Brown
03-01-2003, 10:30 AM
I am so looking forward to this series. My first exposure to the characters was when I was 7, but the the series was winding down. I got lucky and was able to pick up a few back issues when I 15. Now at the age of 40 I regret having lost those issues through having to sell off parts of my collection throughout the years.

I have high hopes for this series, especially given the talent picked to create it. Even though I love the character design sketches, I just wish there were some interior art links to click on... (hint, hint) :)

Sock Puppet #9.5
03-01-2003, 10:38 AM
If the stories are good, the rest will follow.

The legend of T.H.U.N.D.E.R. will then become legion.

TheRay
03-01-2003, 01:42 PM
I don't have much experience with the THUNDER Agents, I had heard of them not much more than a year ago when I heard about the archives being published by DC. I'm 22... forgive me! :)

But anyhow, I decided to check out a friends copy of the archives and was delighted by what I found. I'm scrounging up some dough to pick up the first archive... and I'll be checking out this new series in June.

It looks like a great summer for trying out new DC series... what with Teen Titans, Outsiders, Firestorm and THUNDER Agents (and the Dr. Fate mini-series)! Cool beans! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Mr. Special ED
03-01-2003, 02:33 PM
Not a knock at all - cause I'm picking this book up as well - but those character desgins have a very ULTIMATES feel to them.

jawaplumber
03-01-2003, 04:02 PM
At first glance, I thought THUNDER Agents looked like it would be too much of an ULTIMATES/AUTHORITY clone, too much of an attempt to cash in on current trends. However, having read more about the plans for the new series as well as the history of the previous Agents stories, I have to admit to being intrigued now. This could be DC's biggest release of the year, if it gets enough press and then delivers creatively.

aphterburn
03-01-2003, 05:24 PM
The Didio era has begun. I hope he sees to it that this project gets the hype it seem to deserve and since this is one of his personal editorial projects, I thnk it will.

gOgIver
03-01-2003, 06:53 PM
Will this have a DC logo or Elseworlds?

apoehler
03-01-2003, 09:57 PM
I'm on board. I bought the Deluxe issues years ago out of the back issue box just based on the beautiful Perez covers and have wanted to see more ever since. This series sounds like it'll be worth the wait.

ComicBook Conventions.com
03-01-2003, 10:20 PM
Nice to see the Menthor design up there, too, since the articles have just talked about Lightning, Dynamo, and NoMan. Now if we could just get Raven...

Brian
<a href="http://www.comicbookconventions.com" target="_blank">Comic Book Conventions.com</a>

Marc Andreyko
03-01-2003, 10:57 PM
to answer a few questions:

i believe the book will have a DC "bullet" on the cover.

and Raven most definitely is showing up. Iron Maiden, too. eventually..... :)

BlakSun
03-02-2003, 09:07 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MattBrady:
[QB]<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/lightning_t.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/DC/lightning_t.jpg" width="175" height="311" border="0" align="right" alt="Lightning - character designs by Max Fiumara and Sebastian Fiumara"></a>by Mike Sangiacomo

Love this pose. Your classic "you talking to me?" super hero stance...

Michael P
03-02-2003, 05:53 PM
The Baby Boom generation has officially lost the right to complain about 80s nostalgia comics.

OM
03-02-2003, 06:16 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Michael P:
<strong>The Baby Boom generation has officially lost the right to complain about 80s nostalgia comics.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...No we haven't. This is a revival of good genre material, not crappy toy marketing schemes wrapped in manga knockoff.

Allen Berrebbi
03-03-2003, 10:26 AM
The art looks great and a good compromise between uopdating the costumes for a modern audience while keeping the classic look. I do hate retcons and would have rather them acknowledge the 60s incarnation and just say that these are brand new people in the suits. That way we get the best of both worlds.

KACH
03-03-2003, 11:47 AM
I'll pick this up because I like the premise & creative team, though I know nothing of the original series. And I'm not going to make any judgments yet, but this seems an awful lot like Stormwatch/Authority/Ultimates/etc. Not neccessarily a bad thing, though.

--J.

kcekada
03-03-2003, 12:33 PM
Who illustrated the character profiles? Is that Manual Garcia's work? If so, his work has vastly improved.

I collected the Deluxe series in the 80s. Seemed to have the potential to become really big--and then it died due to legal battles.

I passed on the archive, because I never became connected enought with the Agents to shell out $50 to learn more. But admittedly, the concepts for the characters are great.

If the series is good, I may have to get the Archives.

KC

Walt Stone
03-04-2003, 11:51 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by kcekada:
<strong>I passed on the archive, because I never became connected enought with the Agents to shell out $50 to learn more. But admittedly, the concepts for the characters are great.

If the series is good, I may have to get the Archives.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563899035" target="_blank">T.H.U.N.D.E.R. AGENTS ARCHIVE #1 AT AMAZON</a> is available for $35 including shipping, if you feel so inclined.

I'll let the PR folks do their work (because they do it so much better than I ever could) but the concepts for these characters ARE great.

Speaking just for ME, having the Sci-Fi part take some lead role, along with a little bit of the fantastic that might come out from DC's take on things here - I have confidence this will do quite well and should attract some serious positive attention in the long run.

That said, I'm not the biggest fan of the clone-for-android NoMan idea, but as a story guy, I can easily see the "whys" on how that could be made to work with about 50 different scenarios... and I'm not privvy to the workings of the writer(s) of this stuff. (I'm not a StarTrek geek, but the "Borg" with part android controlling the part human host always was fun... but Data was pure android, and he often quested to be human? Shades of at least a couple of story threads of NoMan) In other words, any continuation of the typical "android angst" could be easily seen as a takeoff on something that's been done in the interim between the 60s take and today.

That said, I could easily see an android version with mechanical modem frailties just as easily as some clones with some control difficulites from their "human" frailties. I know if I was doing story work on this, and knew the history, I'd be contemplating having both android and clone technology at least available in theory as some sort of backup. I don't know about you, but getting a honest to god radio jamming device design or even a microwave jamming device design off the interenet is available for free. I have the links if you want 'em.
The concepts may have been high tech in the 60s, but it's quite the low tech today.

I don't know if the DC take is going to include the "wetware vs software" debate, because that might take away from the adventures, but I've thought about it ever since I started reading the old Thunder Agent issues. (NoMan has always been my favorite character of the Agents)

If I was storyGod of this, I'd make sure that both versions (androids v clones) existed where one "upgrade to clones" would have the androids scrapped because someone "got root" on one or more of the spares and used it instead of NoMan. ("got root" = take control from the main user).
That's now an old story used on many android characters.

(And exactly WHICH operating system WAS used on the old androids, anyway? :) )

Walt Stone
webmaster
<a href="http://www.thunderagents.com" target="_blank">http://www.thunderagents.com</a>

Skyman
03-04-2003, 11:43 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by kcekada:
<strong>Who illustrated the character profiles? Is that Manual Garcia's work? If so, his work has vastly improved.

KC</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, the profiles were illustrated by Max Fiumara and Sebastian Fiumara, but they are no longer involved in the proyect.

dr.no
03-05-2003, 05:57 PM
OMG This is so irritating. This is even worser than a 80's comic. It's yet another sixties revamp.....

If you want this kind of stories then please buy the original.

Sock Puppet #9.5
03-08-2003, 09:28 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by dr.no:
<strong>OMG This is so irritating. This is even worser than a 80's comic. It's yet another sixties revamp......</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Isn't Spider-Man just another 60s revamp?