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MattBrady
01-04-2005, 06:20 AM
<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/CBMaker/newlogo.jpg" width="200" height="179" align="right"><i>by Ryan McLelland</i>

Welcome back to <i>Comic Book Maker</i>, the series on how to create and market your own comic book! These series of articles will run concurrent with the actual creation of a comic book titled the <b>Wise Intelligence Anthology</b>.

Down at SPX this past October I stopped by the PVComics table a number of times. One particular time stands out in my mind when DJ Coffman and crew accosted me and babbled on and on about a publishing service called ComiXpress. They raved, they foamed out the mouth, and they used words that aren’t too appropriate for this column. ComiXpress was what PVComics used to publish their comics and they couldn’t stop raving.

In having not the first clue of how to publish a comic, I decided that ComiXpress (http://www.comixpress.com/) would be the perfect place to start with should I decided to go a self-publishing route with the <b>Wise Intelligence Anthology</b>. I go a hold of Stuart Robertson over at ComiXpress and he was more then happy to answer my questions in how their services and company works.

“We've been incredibly busy since opening for business this past summer,” Robertson said on the company’s success. “We've printed thousands of comics and have 64 different titles available for purchase in our online store with more being added all the time. We remain committed to offering affordable low-run, low-cost printing and distribution to comic creators.”

Low-run and low-cost sounds damn good to me. The next question I of course need to ask is how do I get my comic to them and how does the comic actually get printed?

“The preferred file type for printing with ComiXpress is PDF,” says Robertson. “Files should be 300 dpi CMYK for full color pages (and covers) or 600 dpi Grayscale for black and white pages. Digital files can be burnt onto a CD and mailed to ComiXpress, or posted to a website or FTP server and the details included in the order form. There are no minimum orders and comics sold through the ComiXpress online store are printed on-demand and shipped directly to the reader when they place an order.”

It’s interesting to see this sort of publishing in comic books, one where you are able to print on demand whenever you may need comics. This way I’m not forced to outright print up 5,000 copies of this indy opus. Sure I could release <b>Wise Intelligence Anthology</b> and it could sell out in comic stores nationwide in a matter of minutes, forcing me to do several reprints with black and white Michael Turner covers (and perhaps a limited Barry Windsor-Smith chromium cover). The flip side to that coin is I could end up with 4,932 copies sitting in my basement after no one buys them in stores and conventions, deciding to hit the quarter bin to finish off their runs of <b>Captain Carrot and the Zoo Crew</b>.

Of course the second thought that runs through my head is - does it cost a hell of a lot more to print up, say, 30 books then to print up 5,000? “We offer the same low prices whether you're ordering one book or a hundred,” says Robertson. This really pops the eyes out of the sockets, I just can’t believe this! With this process, it makes it so quick <i>and</i> easy to produce your own comic! “Once you've finished creating the files for your comic, you can use our online Comic Printing Cost Calculator to get an estimate and place your order. When we have received your order and files, we will email you an invoice for the total cost including shipping which you can pay directly with PayPal or by Credit Card.”

Now I can see what Coffman was surely lambasting me about. To top it all off, there is even a way to make printing up your comics <i>cheaper</i> through this process. I asked about a rumor I had heard that if you put a ComiXpress ad on the back cover, you got money off the printing of your book. “ComiXpress is dedicated not only to providing affordable print on demand comic books to creators, but also to selling them for the creators as well,” Robertson answered. “ComiXpress ads featured in any comic serve to show readers where they can purchase these comics online, and serve to increase sales potential for every comic sold through ComiXpress’s online store. For this reason we offer discounts to printing comics that feature Comixpress ads and all pricing is based upon three specific tiers of ad placement: back cover, inside front or back cover, or no ad.”

Lastly Robertson added, “To accommodate the increase in printing, we've made some upgrades to our printing system, and look forward to adding perfect-binding sometime next year to add graphic novel style books to the services we can offer comic creators.”

So after you publish your opus through ComiXpress you can then easily collect it into graphic novel form! How much better could that get?

Another print-on-demand service I had read about a couple months ago on Newsarama was www.Lulu.com/comics, who prints many on-demand books. Lulu recently entered the comic book game with its services and I reached out to find out more about how they do business. I got in touch with Stephen Fraser, who is the Marketing Director at Lulu, to get some clarifications on their services.

The first thing I asked was how many comic books was Lulu actually publishing at the moment. “There are over a hundred comic book publishers using Lulu, by our definition,” says Fraser. “An individual creator becomes a publisher when he or she chooses to publish using our site. In the culture of comic book creators, this isn't as much of a leap as it is among novelists or textbook authors who are less used to thinking of themselves as publishers. Comic book artists seem to be accustomed to the idea of self-publishing.”

Lulu also asks for PDF files in one of three sizes, but also can use JPGs or even a crudely laid-out Word document as you wish the comic to appear. They also asked for a 300 dpi resolution so the images that are sent are basically ready to be printed. As for costs, I was told about a $4.53 base production cost, a $.15 per full-color page or $.02 per black and white cost, then creator royalty and Lulu’s commission.

“So if you publish a comic on Lulu and your Mom buys a copy, the price she will pay will reflect the above elements (and shipping, of course),” says Fraser. “You will then receive your royalty for that copy and every other copy you sell.”

Fraser added, “creators who use other means of publishing, I think there are usually set-up costs in the hundreds of dollars. Authors can also purchase ISBN assignment through Lulu that will make their work available on Amazon.com, BN.com, and other retail sites. But many simply sell their books on Lulu.com.”

Lulu has the ability to publish an individual comic, an issue of a magazine, or a book all of which can be saddle-stitched, perfect-bound, or spiral bound, depending on my specification. The fact of the matter is all this can be done just so one copy can be printed. I again had to ask if this sort of business was successful for the company?

“We have seen a powerful word of mouth campaign promoting Lulu in the comic book community, driven in part by the fact that no one else offers high-quality, full-color print on demand comics with no set up fee or minimum order,” says Fraser. “We started talking to comic book creators because we have comic book fans within our company and because a significant part of what Lulu set out to do in the beginning was to provide publishing tools to communities. Comic book creators and fans are an impressive community. It's been a huge success so far.”

Certainly these two companies sound like they have had a good deal of success printing comic books these ways and those who have used the services sound like they have had a very easy time using them. It certainly is revolutionary and something for me to think about should I have to go and self-publish the comic book.

But I’m not thinking that way. <i>Someone</i> out there wants to publish my comic book! So in the next column I’ll be building my query letter to send to publishers and talking about what exactly to put in a submissions packet.

<i>Questions? Comments? Leave your thoughts here on the message board OR give Ryan a write at comicbookmaker@hotmail.com . Read the blog at http://wiseintelligence.blogspot.com .</i>

Aaron Weisbrod
01-04-2005, 09:07 AM
While I felt the tone of this particular column was perhaps a little too... sugary (I mean, c'mon: it's not "rumored" that Comixpress will drop the printing price if you put an ad on the book -- it's right there in the cost calculator :rolleyes: ) the sentiments here are all true.

While Comixpress has admittedly experienced some growing pains due to a huge response, the books they print are *EXTREMELY* reasonably priced as well as of the *UTMOST* quality.

Anyone considering printing small print runs of a book (as in a few hundred or less) would be well-advised to give them a shot.

While I haven't actually seen any of Lulu's printed comicbooks yet, they also seem like a reasonable place to go for someone looking to print a collected TPB-style comic with a spine and a barcode. The $4.53 assembly fee per book (combined with the page rate -- which is a fairly reasonable one) make it ridiculous to even consider doing anything less that a 50-100 pager with 'em, but again, if the quality is high, that's certainly an option for print on demand OGNs and such.

Bottom line -- as far as Comixpress is concerned, believe the hype. We had a black and white NIGHTMARE WORLD comic printed through them (the "NO HOPE=NO FEAR" 2004 SUMMER SPECTACULAR -- you can look it up on either their website or mine by clicking the banner in my signature) and the results were *AMAZING*.

Spreadin' the word,
Aaron Weisbrod

FireLight
01-04-2005, 09:54 AM
LuLu is based in the Research Triangle Park area of North Carolina - founded and run by Robert Young - founder of Red Hat Software (Linux).

His concept for open-source and "everyone" should have access came straight from his Red Hat days and is now his publishing philosphy.

I do know of at least three professionals - not comic pros, tho - who use Lulu and have had success with it. They do have ISBN and issue/market through Amazon.

There are a couple of professors who publish their own text books - with built in-by-current-semester syllabus. Also, they are able to keep the content and context of the text books current. (Although that kills the whole sell it used and gets some beer after exams routine).

gredenko
01-04-2005, 11:28 AM
Prof reed pl ease. Also, it's not necessary to introduce every paragraph or question with a sentence about the question or paragraph--just get on with it. This is a potentially great series of articles that is being marred by sub-par writing.

This is an interesting idea, but I'd certainly like to see some samples or finished products to check out the printing and paper quality. It sounds like the perfect way to do short-run books of significant length.

jasinmartin
01-04-2005, 01:44 PM
It's fun to watch Ryan run down the steps and topics I've traveled in setting up my own self-published book, and it'll be even better to watch him traverse areas I haven't yet in future installments maybe.

This week’s column is especially timely for me as I'm ramping up for a couple cons in the next months, and had been considering some new preview books. I was seriously considering using Comixpress, having read about them and checked them out for some months now (since I first saw DJ Coffman hype them up on various forums). Indeed they offer fair pricing, and with the kicker being, on demand. Now, their prices were even better when they launched, but unfortunately reality set in and changed those a bit, but still very reasonable.

I went ahead and placed on order from their store, to finally see some books. I ordered Aaron Weisbrod's book, and a couple others. I checked out the Nightmare World site for the first time a couple months ago, and didn't realize I hadn't previously, since there’s been links in his posts for quite some time. Man, I was really surprised by the setup, quality, and approach. I can't recommend the site enough, and in fact need to add it to my links. Anyway, looking forward to checking out that book.

Another small run, but not really on demand, print service to check out is Blue Line Pro Graphix. They have some good prices and options for the start up publisher. I've been meaning to try them out too. http://www.bluelinepro.com/graphix.htm

Looking forward to the next installment!

djcoffman
01-04-2005, 02:13 PM
Cool. I'm mentioned! And im not even a paid spokesperson for Comixpress! hahaha--

I couldnt be happier with my stuff through Comixpress. It's totally a punk rock operation.

It was hilarious when the LuLu girls came up to dig us for info on how Comixpress is able to print such low cost items. At first they were stand offish thinking Logan would be a complete tool or something-- or we'd treat them like they were evil corporate bad guys--- but we all got along and gabbed great. Logan also revealed that it was "magic beans" that were the secret to his success.

here's a fun photo of the Lulu folks and Logan embracing each other that I took....

http://djcoffman.com/storage/spx/pvspx18.jpg

cs3ink
01-04-2005, 02:44 PM
My book, Terran Sandz (http://www.comixpress.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=74), is being published through Comixpress. The first issue is of impressive quality, and I'm eager to see the second issue printed.

I'm with Onyx Cross Comics (http://www.onyxcross.com), and we published our first book, Wiseman (http://www.comixpress.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=11&products_id=44), through Comixpress as well. They are a quality printing house.

Sure they've had some growing pains, but I imagine that was because even they were surprised by the massive amount of business that has come their way.

Keep up the good work, Comixpress. You've done darned good by me and the rest of OC.

Later,
Chip

noir7000
01-04-2005, 03:46 PM
hey!

i have had success with lulu!
my comic "the Hole" has sold pretty consistently
despite not being well promoted.

the print quality is quite lovely!
the color is great and the black and white
is also outstanding! the binding looks just
like anything you would find in borders and such.

lulu offers a great deal!

i just uploaded a promotional artbook BEHOLDER to the
server and i am giddy with anticipation..why?
because they kick butt!!

i also plan to publish a textbook through them
and several other projects...including a comics
anthology mag i will co-publish called EYE TRAUMA.

it's truly cool and easy to use. you become a member.
start a new project...upload your content and covers...
and it's published! it's also easy to update editions and
make alterations. i have three versions of my book
available there.

also, if you are programmer or musician they have what
you need for you too!

LULU is one gal that always gets me excited.;)

everyone should check them out...AND

check out my book.:)
http://www.lulu.com/content/78830

also, R.I.P. WILL EISNER 1917-2005



http://img129.exs.cx/img129/862/thespiritbyewill6cv.jpg

djcoffman
01-04-2005, 05:49 PM
The stunning Annie Broadwater of LuLu, and featured in that photo, just clarified for me that Logan said the secret to his success was:

""magic beans
and the slave labor of my children.""

:)

tstroup
01-04-2005, 05:50 PM
One Caution for self-publishers.

Beware of the cost of your books compared to your cover price if you want to go through a distributor like Diamond, Cold Cut or FM. The distributor is going to pay you about 40% of the cover price or 80 cents on a $2 book. This is because retailers expect a 45-50% discount.

As far as I know, print on demand will cost you about that same amount per book. So you will not make any money if you want to go through a distributor and get your books into comic shops. Especially if you consider that you will have to pay the shipping to get the books to the distributor. If you print up 1,000 or 2,000 copies at a regular printer, you can get your per copy cost lower and can make money.

At this point, that is the only thing holding back print on demand from making huge headway into the market in general. The quality is nearly as good and the advantages of the smaller print run for self-publishers is obvious.

If you have no interest in going though a distributor and just selling from your web site, at conventions, and the like, print on demand is the way to go for small print runs.

- Tim Stroup
Submissions Director
Cold Cut Comics Distribution

Aaron Weisbrod
01-04-2005, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by tstroup
One Caution for self-publishers.

Beware of the cost of your books compared to your cover price if you want to go through a distributor like Diamond, Cold Cut or FM. The distributor is going to pay you about 40% of the cover price or 80 cents on a $2 book. This is because retailers expect a 45-50% discount.

As far as I know, print on demand will cost you about that same amount per book. So you will not make any money if you want to go through a distributor and get your books into comic shops. Especially if you consider that you will have to pay the shipping to get the books to the distributor. If you print up 1,000 or 2,000 copies at a regular printer, you can get your per copy cost lower and can make money.

At this point, that is the only thing holding back print on demand from making huge headway into the market in general. The quality is nearly as good and the advantages of the smaller print run for self-publishers is obvious.

If you have no interest in going though a distributor and just selling from your web site, at conventions, and the like, print on demand is the way to go for small print runs.

- Tim Stroup
Submissions Director
Cold Cut Comics Distribution

Thank you bringing up this very important point, Mr. Stroup -- this is exactly the quandry I am wrestling with at the moment.

While Comixpress is a *FANTASTIC* printer in terms of quality and service (I have yet to work with Lulu yet, so I can't comment on them personally -- although I do like what I've seen so far in researching them), thus far no POD publisher has yet arisen to be an efficient option for people who would like to distribute their books through large distributors.

Mind you -- I'm not complaining or trying to grind any axes here -- the facts are all in the math.

If you don't mind me asking you this in a public forum, as a distibutor, do you see any way around this situation... or do you see going through large-scale printers as the only feasible way to get the price-point per book to a level where this is a realistic (even if it's not necessarily profitable) option?

I mean, if there's a third option out there, I'd LOOOOOVE to know what it is, cuz thus far I've missed it. :p

Still searchin',
Aaron Weisbrod

P.S.-- Again, I would like to mention that www.Comixpress.com *ROCKS* for people who would like to see their book in print -- and on sale -- without having to fork out several thousand dollars up-front... and that www.Lulu.com looks like the way to go for TPBs and OGNs at the moment... or at least until Comixpress offers perfect-bound books! :p

jasinmartin
01-04-2005, 07:07 PM
Yeah, print on demand is really great for just getting started. Books for cons, submissions, samples, web sales, etc.
You could actually still make some profit in that regard. Distribution through normal channels erases that. Until pod prices drop further, you'll still need full print services to distribute comic books via the direct market channels, because that game is all about volume... (or if online sales channels improve, I suppose you wouldn't have to worry about that)

Great to have Cold Cut chime in!

djcoffman
01-04-2005, 07:24 PM
Here's another side of the coin though-- from my perspective and experience...

Say you DO do a bulk print run and go through Diamond. It's usually a toss up on the orders, and you never know what a book will sell-- most indy books are lucky to get to a 1000 copy order! -- So there's a good chance you'll be sitting on a TON of books at your house or storage. Now, doing tons of shows, thats all fine and dandy, but believe me, the more books you do that way, the more you have to store and it just gets to be a pain in the ass. I'd only use Diamond or other distributors if I had a "sure thing" on my hands. Which in the current market is just a silly thing to say... hah...

So, if you take everything into account--- for ANY independent comic publisher, going even halfway POD is the best option if you don't want to tie up a bunch of money. I've seen plenty of people lose their asses going the traditional route.

My book is availlable online, 24/7, 365 days a year, and pretty darn cheap! I'm putting a bug in Comixpress's ear about retailer discounts as well. Comixpress ships super fast to readers-- I imagine it would be cool if comic shops themselves had a little computer setup that would allow people to order what they wanted right from their local shops!----- That's pretty much the future of ordering books, comics, whatever. Not in place yet, but it's coming.

There won't really be any need for so many middlemen once the right technology is in place. Hell, Comixpress is practically a printer/store AND distributor for my minicomic-- and I think I'm the best selling book in their whole catalog! A minicomic! You can't put a minicomic or odd size book through Diamond, and then you have to meet their benchmarks.... blah blah.... lets face it, even going through Diamond, you're making about a buck a book. If you're an indy, you're most likely losing money and on the road to some sort of cancellation for your book.

Aaron Weisbrod
01-04-2005, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by djcoffman
I'm putting a bug in Comixpress's ear about retailer discounts as well.

HELL YEAH! That would be a HUUUUUUUUUUUGE step in the right direction for us little guys in terms of helping to convince shops to pick-up our books. :)

Good call, man... and thanks for sharing your side of the story. I think you were right-on the money with pretty-much everything said, and while I don't expect to get rich doing comics anytime soon, I certainly don't want to go broke doing them either... :p

Hopeful,
Aaron Weisbrod

Jay Odjick
01-04-2005, 09:54 PM
This is really a great thread. I never looked into any of the POD companies all that much.

If anyone wants to know the costs of printing through a standard print shop, and what those costs typically are, the printer I use, Quebecor, will send you price quotes and samples for free.

For color comics you are looking at a pretty high rate but for b&w, they have some pretty decent deals.

Diamond actually takes 60 percent of your profit. For retailers it does vary, but I have found thirty five to forty percent to be the base rate they take.
What that basically means is that unless youre printing and SELLING a TON of books, its very hard for you to make anything off your books.

Self distribution makes it pretty tough to get your book into stores, because most retailers I have talked to are very hesitant to try anything that isnt carried by a distributor. The good thing about self distribution though, is you can set your own retailer rebates.
The day in which retailers can order straight through the internet is coming, I agree, and when it DOES hit, it's going to change the game. Until then though...

If anyone has any questions about self publishing or self distribution, or print rates, etc, hit me up. My company is presently getting ready to print the second issue of our title, The Raven, and so far so good. Im not exactly a veteran yet, but i do know how hard it is to find someone who can give you advice or tips.

Come see me at our message board, at http://p203.ezboard.com/bdwproductions, or just email me at jay@darkwingproductions.ca, and I would be more than happy to answer any questions you might have!
In the meantime, good luck and I hope to see your books sometime soon!

J
www.darkwingproductions.ca

Damian
01-05-2005, 10:58 AM
lulu's print quality is indeed excellent. i have a copy of John (noir7000) Jenning's book, The Hole (http://www.lulu.com/content/78830) and it's printed just as well as any other graphic novel you'll find on the shelf. (and The Hole's a great horror action comic, btw.)

we're going to put out an anthology called EYE TRAUMA and the first (color) trade of our series WHISP through lulu because of the high quality. but we're also excited because it's cost effective printing that allows us to move outside the strictures of the direct market.

POD's a good way to go since the vast majority of the direct market obviously isn't interested in new indie stuff. because of the low start up cost, POD gives you as much time as you need to build a readership. direct market distribution through diamond, on the other hand, gives a self publisher three issues to start pulling in 1000 issue orders, which (as djcoffman noted earlier) you have to be really lucky to get.

i think this is the future of self published comics, and a great opportunity for the medium in general. POD makes it easier for new creators to put out books, and comics in every market need new blood and fresh ideas if the industry hopes to capitalize on the recent influx of mainstream attention.

Damian
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Mark, Sr.
01-05-2005, 03:09 PM
Allow me to echo Tim from Cold Cut. If you're just "going small" then POD is right for you.

If you are "thinking big" you could possibly get distribution AND have plenty on hand to sell via the "going small" route. It's kind of the best of both worlds, but you DO need to make the investment of a minumum print run.

We have used Brenner and Quebecor, with great results! Shopping around for the best price has brought us to Lampost Publications (http://www.lamppostpubs.com). Printed in Korea, so there is a little bit of lag time, but Christiane has provided excellent customer service, and quality. Now that I'm sounding like an informercial, be sure to use my name if you send in any queries.

I'm Mark, Sr. - and I approve this message.

tstroup
01-05-2005, 09:18 PM
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If you don't mind me asking you this in a public forum, as a distibutor, do you see any way around this situation... or do you see going through large-scale printers as the only feasible way to get the price-point per book to a level where this is a realistic (even if it's not necessarily profitable) option?

I mean, if there's a third option out there, I'd LOOOOOVE to know what it is, cuz thus far I've missed it.

Still searchin',
Aaron Weisbrod
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Unfortunately there is no third option. Each self-publisher has to decide the route that works best for them.

Most of the other posters have some very good points, especially about the advantages for POD.

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djcoffman wrote:

My book is availlable online, 24/7, 365 days a year, and pretty darn cheap! I'm putting a bug in Comixpress's ear about retailer discounts as well. Comixpress ships super fast to readers-- I imagine it would be cool if comic shops themselves had a little computer setup that would allow people to order what they wanted right from their local shops!----- That's pretty much the future of ordering books, comics, whatever. Not in place yet, but it's coming.

There won't really be any need for so many middlemen once the right technology is in place. Hell, Comixpress is practically a printer/store AND distributor for my minicomic-- and I think I'm the best selling book in their whole catalog!
--------------------------

You may be right about the possibility for not needing for middlemen in the future, but the economics aren't there yet and may never be. I am sure Comixpress and other POD's would be doing it if they could.

Other factors that may cause that future to never come about are:

1) Retailers are always short on time, so most don't want to order from 20-30 or more sources. That's why they like a distributor, they can get most of what they want at a few places.

2) Distributor catalogs get the publisher publicity that the web cannot reach. People (including retailers) that read through Previews are exposed to more things than you would find just surfing the web. You are forced to look.

3) Stores themselves are giving free publicity to every book they put on their shelf. How many of you buy all your comics online and do not at least look over the new comics rack in your store? Every book through a distributor reaches a larger potential audience than any web based system.

The portion of POD/direct to fan sales of comic books will continue to rise for sure, but will it replace the traditional distribution system? In my view, most likely not and not in the next few years. Too much infrastructure is already in place for it to fade away. It will be interesting to see if the POD costs can come down to compete with traditional printing.

- Tim
Cold Cut Distribution

jasinmartin
01-05-2005, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Mark, Sr.

We have used Brenner and Quebecor, with great results! Shopping around for the best price has brought us to Lampost Publications (http://www.lamppostpubs.com). Printed in Korea, so there is a little bit of lag time, but Christiane has provided excellent customer service, and quality. Now that I'm sounding like an informercial, be sure to use my name if you send in any queries.

I'm Mark, Sr. - and I approve this message.

Regarding LampPost, have you actually gotten any books printed and back from them?

I've heard about and seen their prices, for color they are way beyond what common printers can offer for lower runs. Way below. But they do have a longer lead time, and from publishers I've talked to the number varies, from their quote and beyond.

I know the Comic Book Digest preview mag is printed by them (B&W) and they are tied to Alias, the new start up (hopefully that doesn't change anything with regards to what they offer, as in exclusive deals etc). Any way, I haven't seen anyone who can come close to their prices on lower runs, so the more feedback/testimonials about them, the better...

(Hit me with a pm or email with the skinny if you'd like.)

Oh, and uh, hey fellow reality tv comic booker!

Mark, Sr.
01-05-2005, 11:50 PM
Lamp Post had sent us a list of the books they printed (which I no longer have), and we checked them out in our local stores. There were a couple of "bigs" and the quality looked good, too. We thought that it was worth a try because of the prices. The extra shipping time didn't pose a problem, since we have learned to have things done (including advertising) WAY in advance of any expected shelf date. Something that will/should be learned/focused on in this threaded column.:)

We just got a handful of advance copies of our first book with them (banner ad below) and they look great! The bulk of our order will be delivered directly to Diamond by next week, easily meeting our deadline for a January shelf date. We're very happy!:D

Be sure to ask for Christiane (christiane@lamppostpubs.com) and let her know that I sent you. She has provided some great customer service, and I want to return the favor.


p.s. Say "Hi" to P-town for me! It's been a while.

helloworld
01-08-2005, 11:04 PM
What type of printer does Lulu use?

jasinmartin
01-09-2005, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Mark, Sr.
Lamp Post had sent us a list of the books they printed (which I no longer have), and we checked them out in our local stores. There were a couple of "bigs" and the quality looked good, too. We thought that it was worth a try because of the prices. The extra shipping time didn't pose a problem, since we have learned to have things done (including advertising) WAY in advance of any expected shelf date. Something that will/should be learned/focused on in this threaded column.:)

We just got a handful of advance copies of our first book with them (banner ad below) and they look great! The bulk of our order will be delivered directly to Diamond by next week, easily meeting our deadline for a January shelf date. We're very happy!:D

Be sure to ask for Christiane (christiane@lamppostpubs.com) and let her know that I sent you. She has provided some great customer service, and I want to return the favor.


p.s. Say "Hi" to P-town for me! It's been a while.

Thanks for the info. Good to hear.

Yeah, Christiane is the contact I've spoke with for them already. She was very helpful.