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Moored
04-03-2008, 05:20 AM
I imagine this is how Countdown got green signalled. All names are indicative but they are probably true judging from the said names' past records.

Mike Carlin(MC) - You know, I still don't get how 52 sold so much. It didn't even happen in the present. How can something sell that is not happening in the present. Continuity. They need continuity. Continuity is law. Continuity.

Matt Idelson(MI) - Yeah, beats me.

MC - .........

MI - Wait, doesn't it happen like one week in each issue. They do like, each day of the week, so the reader feels like continuity is happening. So its pseudo-continuity.

MC - Wow, thats it. Pseudo-continuity. Well, we'll do continuity cause continuity beats pseudo-continuity every time.

MI - Yeah. You are a genius man.

MC - I know. Isn't that stupid Morrison doing that big series. Final Crisis. Stupid Morrison. He doesn't even care about the fine line of continuity. He writes stupid series like Animal Man. Who's stupid enough to write himself into the series. Thats against continuity rules.And Final Crisis. As if its going to be final.(Chuckles) When I fix continuity again, there will be another crisis. Cause thats what Crises are for. Continuity.

MI - You are a genius.

MC - I know, I know. So we do a Countdown to that series which will be ----- wait for it ------- Weekly. And because its now continuity not pseudo - contnuity, it will sell bazillions of issues, and I'll get promoted again, and Dan DiDio will get fired.

MI - You'll promote me too, right.

MC - Absoloutely. You are my bestest pal. I'll make you head of them all, just under me.

MI - Wow, thanks.

MC - Anyway, we'll use all the characters that Morrison is gonna use, and make them cool. Like you know. Mary Marvel, we'll make her hot, all black like Spiderman. And we'll show her panties in every issue.

MI - You are a genius man.

MC - I know. And Jason Todd. He's cool you know. He got killed because of phone calls. But he was the best Robin. He killed people not like those lousy other Robins.

MI - And Kyle Rayner. I love Kyle Rayner. And the monitors, I love monitors. They look cool.

MC - Yeah and them too. We'll write all of it. And they'll sell bazillions.

MI - But we can't credit ourselves. We are humble, aren't we.

MC - Yeah, I am very humble. I won't take credit even though this is going to sell bazillions. Get me that list of all the DC Exclusives. I'll close my eyes and whoever I put my finger on will be the lucky ones.

MI - Yeah(Brings the list, and MC uses his magic fingers)

MC - We got 'em.

MI - You are a genius man.

MC - I know. Now lets pitch it to DiDio, he can't not do this. This is genius.

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At DiDio's office.

DiDio - Yeah

MC - We got a proprosal for a new comic.

DiDio - Yeah

MC - Its a weekly

DiDio - Weekly. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Epilogue

MC - See, I told you. In one year, when this is over, I'll take over.

MI - You are a genius. You know, your genius inspired me. I have a proposal too.

MC - Yeah, tell me.

MI - How about, like, all the Amazons attacked America.

MC - Genius.

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ElijahSnowFan
04-03-2008, 05:29 AM
i'm sorry, but i just laugh my ass off at stuff like this. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!:D :D

btjs
04-03-2008, 06:03 AM
Sadly, I think this is a vague cliff's notes of the truth.

vbartilucci
04-03-2008, 07:18 AM
Funny, but Carlin came on later on in the run, if memory serves. He inherited it all, not created it.

BoosterGold-
04-03-2008, 07:24 AM
Funny as this may be to you is has so many assumptions about the character of Mike Carlin it isn't funny.

Mike actually was the guy that made the Superman titles week-to-week back in the day.

There are so many misapprehentions about what an editor does and controls.

Maybe next time know the subject before the parody. It is only funny if there is truth to it. And this has none whatsoever.

-Michael C

Salieri
04-03-2008, 07:35 AM
Funny as this may be to you is has so many assumptions about the character of Mike Carlin it isn't funny.

Mike actually was the guy that made the Superman titles week-to-week back in the day.

There are so many misapprehentions about what an editor does and controls.

Maybe next time know the subject before the parody. It is only funny if there is truth to it. And this has none whatsoever.

-Michael C
Mike Carter...Mike Carlin...hmm...there something you're not telling us?

Moored
04-03-2008, 07:36 AM
@vbartilucci - I don't think so, although I may be mistaken. Possibly you are talking about Mike Marts taking over 52 after Wacker left.

@Booster Gold - And whats the point of your statement. I highly doubt after reading Countdown or Amazons Attack or the fact that Carlin was associated with the Death and Return of Superman and possibly the many horrendous events after that in which I have no interest whatsoever, that I have any misapprehensions of what Carlin or for that matter DC Editors do. There are a certain number of editors whose name on the book almost certainly guarantees what the book will be like, irrespective of who the creators are. And that is a conclusion drawn from a lot of experience.

Anyway, this is in no way supposed to be factual, just something that came to me thinking about Countdown.

cncoyle
04-03-2008, 07:47 AM
pseudo-continuity & Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee = WIN:D

vbartilucci
04-03-2008, 08:00 AM
Funny as this may be to you is has so many assumptions about the character of Mike Carlin it isn't funny.
I've met Carlin on many occasions; he's a very pleasant person with a great sense of humor.

He made Superman tick like a fine watch in the 90's. If more editors followed that pattern (as Wacker is now doing on ASM) we might get more quality books.

Nobody's disputing that.

Of course, he also wrote that excerable Metal Men mini back in the day that all but turned my stomach. So he'll always have that black mark on his record, even if it has been retconned away.

But in every Countdown column, he came off as at best condescending, and at worst outright surly. One way or the other, he didn't seem as into doing it as Wacker and Siglain were.

I got the distinct impression that he wasn't pleased with the CD assignment. Right or wrong, that was the vibe I got. So my response was, if anything, in his support, saying he wasn't one of the folks who cooked up Countdown. He was a hired gun to keep it on track, and didn't have nearly as much say on its content than the OP suggested.

@vbartilucci - I don't think so, although I may be mistaken. Possibly you are talking about Mike Marts taking over 52 after Wacker left.
I just double checked to be sure. Carlin came on Countdown in the vicinity of issue 43, taking over for Mike Marts. He didn't take full editorial control for a couple more issues after that.

It was Mike Siglain who took over 52 from Wacker.

BTW, I haven't seen "@" used as shorthand for "comment by" since my apahacking days. Can I assume you got your start in print as well?

ElijahSnowFan
04-03-2008, 08:05 AM
Good Lord -- we're breaking down a joke thread, now?

ok, everybody: deep breaths. UNCLENCH.

it was a JOKE. nobody's character is assassinated who can't take it.

in other words: WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

cncoyle
04-03-2008, 08:09 AM
in other words: WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!It's even funnier if you picture Didio spinning in his swivel office chair while saying it.

Moored
04-03-2008, 08:13 AM
So many Mikes... Arghhhhhh

Must. Fix. Memory. As to your question about print. Nope. I don't know why I like to use @. Just comes naturally.

ElijahSnowFan
04-03-2008, 08:15 AM
It's even funnier if you picture Didio spinning in his swivel office chair while saying it.

you know what? it is!:D :D :D

BoosterGold-
04-03-2008, 08:29 AM
I imagine this is how Countdown got green signalled. All names are indicative but they are probably true judging from the said names' past records.


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This is what throws the thing off based on past records.

By some other posters own admissions it was natural to have Carlin take over the editing due to the fact that he made the Superman books work seemlessly and like a well oiled machine---not because he was going on some ego trip.

Parody only works if it is based on some part of truth.

For instance if you included a line about Paul Levitz pulping something, or actually has a line having Carlin tell him "Call me the great Carlini!, I am God.!"

You see what I mean?



-Michael C

TelFie
04-03-2008, 09:03 AM
I nearly died of laughter at Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Moored
04-03-2008, 09:05 AM
Didn't anybody like the epilogue joke ??

chap22
04-03-2008, 09:59 AM
Good Lord -- we're breaking down a joke thread, now?

ok, everybody: deep breaths. UNCLENCH.

it was a JOKE. nobody's character is assassinated who can't take it.

in other words: WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
welcome to threads including BoosterGold-, my friend...:rolleyes:


i thought it was funny. WHEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!:D

DonDaddyD
04-03-2008, 11:19 AM
I found it funny!

Epecially the Amazon Attacks comment.