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Beatsentropy
04-01-2008, 04:20 PM
You folks seem pretty on the ball, maybe you can help me out with something: Are the following titles part of proper marvel continuity? I enjoy reading many of them regardless…but it make my mind itch not knowing if they are part of the greater mythology, or not.

-The Max imprint in general: Specifically Alias, War Machine, Cage, The Hood. Some seem to be selectively, but it doesn’t seem to be consistent.

-She Hulk: the whole gimmick where they read back issues of comics to research for cases really skeeves me…and I’m wondering if this is external cannon (in addition to ready availability of time travel, and fantastic tone of the world in general). Later issues were part of the civil war cross over…so it seems like it should be.

Do the editors not try and have consistent status quo for government structures and society that affects all in continuity titles….or can Slott just do whatever the hell he wants?

- Is astonishing X-men still in continuity…if so when is it set relative to the rest of the current X-titles

- Is Spiderman still in Continuity….given the contradictory nature of BND, and his previous interaction with his fellow avengers (feel free to skip this question. I don’t want a big thing…just that narrow aspect addressed).

- Are all the Wolverine titles in continuity… is seem like there would time constraints given all of his obligations? Or is this just a suspension of disbelief thing?

A side question: Does Deadpool have to fight death to regenerate too, since he got his healing factor from wolverine? Is his healing factor depowered as well?

SlamBurger
04-01-2008, 04:25 PM
Where does Nextwave stand?

Agent_Desmond
04-01-2008, 04:26 PM
Astonishing is in continuity, just try not to fit it in a timeline. Kick back, relax, and prevent your head from exploding. Alias and The Hood are in continuity too. She Hulk is, and it's always been tradition to break the fourth wall on that title, in fact Slott did a very good job cleaning up continuity on that title in other parts of the Marvel Universe. And the Wolverine titles are too. With Wolverine, just think of it as how some of those adventures take place in a couple of days or a week or two but it takes months and months for the full story to come out.

Punchy
04-01-2008, 04:26 PM
Some MAX series are in continuity, not very many, really only Alias, The Hood, and Wisdom. Punisher is kind of in continuity, maybe.

She-Hulk is definately in continuity, the conceit of there being a Marvel Comics in the MU has been around since the early days of Lee/Kirby FF, when Doom broke into their office.

Astonishing is in continuity, but because of the delays and Whedon's importance it is left to standalone, it has referenced M-Day, and the fate of Kitty has been spoiled in Uncanny.

Spider-Man is in continuity, see how he's in the classic costume in New Avengers now.

So are the Wolverine titles, he's just a very busy man.

Beatsentropy
04-01-2008, 04:27 PM
Where does Nextwave stand?

Edited: I need to stop listening to old NWA...making me see things.

Agent_Desmond
04-01-2008, 04:29 PM
Cage isn't in Nextwave. And I'd say it is in continuity judging by Machine M... I mean Aaron Stack's use in Ms Marvel.

Dragavon
04-01-2008, 04:30 PM
Thank you...I knew I was forgeting another one with Cage in it.
Cage is not in Nextwave :confused:

Spidey.
04-01-2008, 04:41 PM
You folks seem pretty on the ball, maybe you can help me out with something: Are the following titles part of proper marvel continuity? I enjoy reading many of them regardless…but it make my mind itch not knowing if they are part of the greater mythology, or not.

-The Max imprint in general: Specifically Alias, War Machine, Cage, The Hood. Some seem to be selectively, but it doesn’t seem to be consistent.

Alias and The Hood are the only In continuity titles.

-She Hulk: the whole gimmick where they read back issues of comics to research for cases really skeeves me…and I’m wondering if this is external cannon (in addition to ready availability of time travel, and fantastic tone of the world in general). Later issues were part of the civil war cross over…so it seems like it should be.

She-Hulk is completely in continuity. The comic book thing was explained as most superheroes optioning off the rights of their actual events to comic book companies for free so they could make books out of them.

Do the editors not try and have consistent status quo for government structures and society that affects all in continuity titles….or can Slott just do whatever the hell he wants?

Little of both.

- Is astonishing X-men still in continuity…if so when is it set relative to the rest of the current X-titles

Yes, but it was always distanced from the other X titles. Astonishing acknowledges certain things that happened in other titles, and the titles acknowledge changes that occur in Astonishing. But most of the stories in Astonishing usually happened before everything else that you read in an X-title.

- Is Spiderman still in Continuity….given the contradictory nature of BND, and his previous interaction with his fellow avengers (feel free to skip this question. I don’t want a big thing…just that narrow aspect addressed).

Yes, it's still in continuity. It's not its own seperate bubble. However, now certain events may have happened differently. (such as Spidey's black costume phase post Civil War) they WILL be explained eventually.

- Are all the Wolverine titles in continuity… is seem like there would time constraints given all of his obligations? Or is this just a suspension of disbelief thing?

Pfft ofcourse. But yeah, it's mostly a suspension of disbelief thing. Like how Batman can be in outerspace with the Justice League, searching for Kryptonite with Superman, leading the Outsiders in the jungle, and handling all of his stuff in Gotham at the same time.

A side question: Does Deadpool have to fight death to regenerate too, since he got his healing factor from wolverine? Is his healing factor depowered as well?

No... He has a healing factor, but on top of it he was cursed by Thanos to never die or something because Deadpool hanging out with Lady Death made him jealous.


P.S.: Nextwave IS in continuity. But any person acting odd, or not fitting how they are portrayed in another book were Skrulls in Nextwave (see Devil DInosaur)

Sighphi
04-01-2008, 04:45 PM
Everything is pretty much out of continuity until big events happen.
In reality there's like 2 or 3 different continuities happening that meet once in a while depending on the story.

Beatsentropy
04-01-2008, 05:03 PM
Thanks folks. You've eased my troubled mind.

TF_Loki
04-01-2008, 05:15 PM
Cage isn't in Nextwave. And I'd say it is in continuity judging by Machine M... I mean Aaron Stack's use in Ms Marvel.

Joe Q has said Nextwave isn't in continuity. Ms Marvel kinda implies otherwise.... go figure.

SevenSoldier
04-01-2008, 05:17 PM
Warren Ellis says Nextwave was the only ongoing title in the 616 universe, and everyone else was anal skrulls. Little did we know how right he was...

Goldenboy
04-01-2008, 05:23 PM
My view?

NEXTWAVE IS in continuity; at least the events of it are. The comic itself just portrayed those events in a very unconventional way.

mastadge
04-01-2008, 05:36 PM
You folks seem pretty on the ball, maybe you can help me out with something: Are the following titles part of proper marvel continuity? I enjoy reading many of them regardless…but it make my mind itch not knowing if they are part of the greater mythology, or not.

-The Max imprint in general: Specifically Alias, War Machine, Cage, The Hood. Some seem to be selectively, but it doesn’t seem to be consistent.

-She Hulk: the whole gimmick where they read back issues of comics to research for cases really skeeves me…and I’m wondering if this is external cannon (in addition to ready availability of time travel, and fantastic tone of the world in general). Later issues were part of the civil war cross over…so it seems like it should be.

Do the editors not try and have consistent status quo for government structures and society that affects all in continuity titles….or can Slott just do whatever the hell he wants?

- Is astonishing X-men still in continuity…if so when is it set relative to the rest of the current X-titles

- Is Spiderman still in Continuity….given the contradictory nature of BND, and his previous interaction with his fellow avengers (feel free to skip this question. I don’t want a big thing…just that narrow aspect addressed).

- Are all the Wolverine titles in continuity… is seem like there would time constraints given all of his obligations? Or is this just a suspension of disbelief thing?

A side question: Does Deadpool have to fight death to regenerate too, since he got his healing factor from wolverine? Is his healing factor depowered as well?

MAX, like Knights, can be but is not necessarily outside continuity. Alias and the Hood are in continuity. So, I assume, is Wisdom. I haven't read the others you mentioned. I don't htink Punisher MAX is.

She-Hulk is. Her sleeping with Juggs is not.

Astonishing is and always was in continuity. The first arc was at the very beginning of ReLoad after Morrison left. Dangerous was not too long after that, you can fit it in because in all subsequent stories in the other books the danger room isn't working. The final two arcs are right before Messiah CompleX.

Spider-Man's in continuity. Not all the details of what's still remembered of pre-OMD have been revealed. Let's hope the writers and editorial are on the ball with this one.

The Wolverine titles are. The Rucka arcs were pre-ReLoad. Enemy of the State is after Secret War and before House of M. Daniel Way's story was right after House of M, Origins & Endings between House of M and Civil War. Guggenheim's first book takes place over Civil War, Loeb's is crap and should be ignored (plus he's mentioned it's only half the story), Guggenheim's second story only takes about five minutes of continuity, and Aaron's is right after Messiah Complex. 95% of other appearances in the X-books and New Avengers etc also fit, but occasionally there's a little accidental overlap.

Don't know much about Deadpool.

Edogawa1983
04-01-2008, 05:40 PM
NEXTWAVE is in continuity, anyone who say it isn't is a Skrull

Alextron
04-01-2008, 08:06 PM
Joss Whedon's continuity belongs in his own book and that's it. Kitty lives. X_Men is the only Marvel book that has that solid Continuity anymore, and that's the X-Men. Talk about confusing.


Spider-man's not even in it's own continuity. the more I read about it, I realize it makes absolutely no sense anymore.

Wolverine, should be Logan, not James average Canadian. He's Logan from Canada.

mastadge
04-01-2008, 08:18 PM
Joss Whedon's continuity belongs in his own book and that's it. Kitty lives. X_Men is the only Marvel book that has that solid Continuity anymore, and that's the X-Men. Talk about confusing.

These four sentences are more confusing to me than X-Men continuity.

hellooladiez
04-01-2008, 08:39 PM
Astonishing is in continuity, just try not to fit it in a timeline. Kick back, relax, and prevent your head from exploding. Alias and The Hood are in continuity too. She Hulk is, and it's always been tradition to break the fourth wall on that title, in fact Slott did a very good job cleaning up continuity on that title in other parts of the Marvel Universe. And the Wolverine titles are too. With Wolverine, just think of it as how some of those adventures take place in a couple of days or a week or two but it takes months and months for the full story to come out.



She-Hulk: DID YOU SLEEP WITH THE JUGGERNAUT?

Alternate She-Hulk- hehehehehe.



Best line from She-Hulk ever though I completely paraphrased. It was the funniest thing I have ever read I think. It was such a pathetic way to clean up that mistake that it just worked and its was effing hilarious that throughout the whokle series one of the incredibly background plots was that She-Hulk made the best with two backs with Juggies, and then it just erupted into this hilarious joke. I hope to God that is in continuity.

Yaw
04-01-2008, 09:04 PM
You folks seem pretty on the ball, maybe you can help me out with something: Are the following titles part of proper marvel continuity? I enjoy reading many of them regardless…but it make my mind itch not knowing if they are part of the greater mythology, or not.

-The Max imprint in general: Specifically Alias, War Machine, Cage, The Hood. Some seem to be selectively, but it doesn’t seem to be consistent.

-She Hulk: the whole gimmick where they read back issues of comics to research for cases really skeeves me…and I’m wondering if this is external cannon (in addition to ready availability of time travel, and fantastic tone of the world in general). Later issues were part of the civil war cross over…so it seems like it should be.

Do the editors not try and have consistent status quo for government structures and society that affects all in continuity titles….or can Slott just do whatever the hell he wants?

- Is astonishing X-men still in continuity…if so when is it set relative to the rest of the current X-titles

- Is Spiderman still in Continuity….given the contradictory nature of BND, and his previous interaction with his fellow avengers (feel free to skip this question. I don’t want a big thing…just that narrow aspect addressed).

- Are all the Wolverine titles in continuity… is seem like there would time constraints given all of his obligations? Or is this just a suspension of disbelief thing?

A side question: Does Deadpool have to fight death to regenerate too, since he got his healing factor from wolverine? Is his healing factor depowered as well?

Cage was not in continuity if you are suggesting it was. IF you are saying that those books were not in continuity then you are wrong because Alias and the Hood are both in continuity.