The Return? (Possible Spoiler)

[pojoman]

just found this image, awesome:D :cool:


http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/315/Captain_America_39.jpg

[KOSLOX]

Where's the image?

[HartyPotter]

http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/315/Captain_America_39.jpg

[Rapture]

That link just took me to Disneys web site

[Skeets]

http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/data/media/315/Captain_America_39.jpg

[GDB]

Image still isn't loading, but just looking at the http address, it seems like it's just the cover to Cap #39? If so, there's already been two topics on it.

[BubbaKanoosh]

this thread is filled with fail.

[halfpint]

The Return of Walt Disney?

[Dalarsco2]

He must have found a good enough supply of Cuban children to make his push for world domination.

[halfpint]

He must have found a good enough supply of Cuban children to make his push for world domination.

Does this mean we can get hand-drawn animated movies back?

[Equinox]

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/i/content/st/2707new_storyimage4126783_full.jpg


Fu<aaa>ck you, Marvel. If Steve Rogers comes back then I'm fu<aaa>cking done with you.

I know it won't make one little bit of difference if I threaten to go, but god fu<aaa>cking dammit....if Steve Rogers' death is undone after only ONE YEAR then I'm out. And oh well boo hoo for me if I do.

[Bandito]

Before anyone throws a Molotov Cocktail at the Marvel offices can we stop, breathe, and entertain the notion that there could be, oh, say, a thousand explanations for the image on this cover art that don't include Steve Rogers coming back?

[miloytheman]

cap-skrull!

[Equinox]

Before anyone throws a Molotov Cocktail at the Marvel offices can we stop, breathe, and entertain the notion that there could be, oh, say, a thousand explanations for the image on this cover art that don't include Steve Rogers coming back?
There's ten thousand different explanations. But if it turns out to be the obvious one (it's Steve Rogers and here's how!) then I'm done with Marvel. Personally I think it's outrageous that they would go kill this character, this huge huge character and claim all sorsts of "Steve Rogers is DEAD" crap and then bring him back.

Yes, the same thing happened with Superman. But Superman wasn't dead for a whole year before returning.

[Realmsartist]

The Original Invaders are set to appear at some point in the future here.
Along with a Cap America.

Thats all this could be.. Who knows.

Jerimy

[Spidey.]

There's ten thousand different explanations. But if it turns out to be the obvious one (it's Steve Rogers and here's how!) then I'm done with Marvel. Personally I think it's outrageous that they would go kill this character, this huge huge character and claim all sorsts of "Steve Rogers is DEAD" crap and then bring him back.

Yes, the same thing happened with Superman. But Superman wasn't dead for a whole year before returning.


As if Comic death was ever a permanent thing. Anyone who thought Steve would really be gone is out of their gourd.





Really though...lets think here. Last issue with Arnim Zola, evil ,ex nazi,master geneticist standing over Sharon Carter holding a needle. I wonder if THAT might have anything to do with this shadowy Cap figure facing Bucky. Hmm...

[thebatusi]

The Original Invaders are set to appear at some point in the future here.
Along with a Cap America.

Thats all this could be.. Who knows.

Jerimy

agreed. methinks the invaders cap will wanna see how he turns out in the future.

[d1jenkin]

Yeah I give this a tie-in to Avengers/Invaders where Cap and Bucky both time travel with the Invaders from WWII to present day temporarily.

Or, tie-in to Secret Invasion and that's a skrull.

I personally guarantee that Brubaker doesn't bring back Steve Rogers 5 issues after getting Bucky into the cap suit.

BEST BET though
Seeing as Brubaker has stated his Cap series wont be tying to heavily into whatever else is going on in the rest of the Marvel U....

Faustus Mind F**k. He gets another chance to try and warp Bucky back to the Winter Soldier persona by confronting Bucky with the inability to fill Steve's shoes.

Bucky of course will overcome this and shoot 'Cap' which ends the mind f**k and a dead Faustus falls to the floor.

Sorry for spoiling it for everyone, just thought i'd clear up all the confusion :D

[DBHughes]

Well, there are two shields on the cover, and we know that Bucky's is the real one, so...

[thebatusi]

Well, there are two shields on the cover, and we know that Bucky's is the real one, so...

so the other one's made of see-through plastic? and are those rubber ears i see?

oh my god.

it's matt salinger. :eek:

http://www.retroist.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/capmatt.jpg

[thebatusi]

http://www.myextralife.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/captain-america.jpg

[jmb]

I guess it has everybody talkin', that's for sure....:)

Really cool image, however this turns out!!

[samnoir]

Brubaker seems to skirt the Secret Invasion issue in his interview.

wouldn't it be great if Steve Rogers wandered into the title, Bucky takes one look at him and shoots him in the head... to reveal a dead Skrull in a Cap Costume. Bingo... Crossover Fulfilled in two panels.

If only all Big Company Crossovers could be done so easily.
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[Tremnar]

There's ten thousand different explanations. But if it turns out to be the obvious one (it's Steve Rogers and here's how!) then I'm done with Marvel. Personally I think it's outrageous that they would go kill this character, this huge huge character and claim all sorsts of "Steve Rogers is DEAD" crap and then bring him back.

Yes, the same thing happened with Superman. But Superman wasn't dead for a whole year before returning.

I'm sorry but i think you are over reacting a bit here.
Brubaker has had a legendary run on Cap so far, not even killing the lead off and bringing him back from the dead is going to affect this, especially if Bru had planned this all along. And I honestly think he has.
Him bringing cap back is going to happen before he leaves the book, that is pretty much a given. Cap coming back was always a given. This is a fact of the medium, something we know to be a constant, characters come back from the dead, or it turns out they didn't really die. It doesn't have to cheapen the impact of the story, that is up to you. And when cap comes back i wont feel like issue 25 is any less of an important comic or any less great an example of storytelling in the medium.

-T-

[Tendrin]

Ultimately, I still feel it is better to have two viable characters in Bucky and Steve than it is to have only one.

[brett123]

Anyone who believes that Steve Rogers will never be brought back, please raise your hand.


I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd like to sell you.

[tesh_karde]

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/i/content/st/2707new_storyimage4126783_full.jpg


Fu<aaa>ck you, Marvel. If Steve Rogers comes back then I'm fu<aaa>cking done with you.

I know it won't make one little bit of difference if I threaten to go, but god fu<aaa>cking dammit....if Steve Rogers' death is undone after only ONE YEAR then I'm out. And oh well boo hoo for me if I do.

your mouth is like a garbage heap in this post.

[Michael Heide]

____ you, Marvel. If Steve Rogers comes back then I'm ____ing done with you.

I know it won't make one little bit of difference if I threaten to go, but god ____ing dammit....if Steve Rogers' death is undone after only ONE YEAR then I'm out. And oh well boo hoo for me if I do.

There's ten thousand different explanations. But if it turns out to be the obvious one (it's Steve Rogers and here's how!) then I'm done with Marvel. Personally I think it's outrageous that they would go kill this character, this huge huge character and claim all sorsts of "Steve Rogers is DEAD" crap and then bring him back.

Yes, the same thing happened with Superman. But Superman wasn't dead for a whole year before returning.
Try breathing into this:
http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module14/images/paperbag.jpg

You are right, Superman wasn't dead for a whole year before returning. But Wonder Man was. Jean Grey (the first time around). Hal Jordan. Oliver Queen. Norman Osborn. Harry Osborn. Thor. Colossus. There are lots more.
If the story is entertaining and doesn't insult my intelligence, there is no reason Steve Rogers shouldn't return at some point in the future. On the other hand, even stories that insulted my intelligence (Green Lantern: Rebirth, One More Day) turned out to be a good thing for the franchise and the characters.

But I agree that they won't bring the "real" 21st century version of Steve Rogers back in #39. The timing would be very odd. After spending so many issues on a world without a Captain America, Bru will want to play a bit more with the Bucky-as-Cap situation before Steve comes back. Besides, would they really give it away with an uncommented, unobscured cover? Or would they create a bit of hype around the return of Steve Rogers? I know I would. Release a cover with a silhouette. A couple of days before the Final Order Cutoff, reveal the actual cover and the variant cover, and let Bru do the interview tour around every print magazine and online newssite you can get.
If they don't do either of that, an actual Rogers-resurrection is unlikely.

So before you run around screaming (or rather typing, but that would look weird when you're running around) "____ you Marvel, god ____ing dammit", calm down, look at the facts - and think before you post.

[zeitgeist07]

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/i/content/st/2707new_storyimage4126783_full.jpg


Fu<aaa>ck you, Marvel. If Steve Rogers comes back then I'm fu<aaa>cking done with you.

I know it won't make one little bit of difference if I threaten to go, but god fu<aaa>cking dammit....if Steve Rogers' death is undone after only ONE YEAR then I'm out. And oh well boo hoo for me if I do.

this is not the real steve rogers :p

[Salieri]

As if Comic death was ever a permanent thing. Anyone who thought Steve would really be gone is out of their gourd.





Really though...lets think here. Last issue with Arnim Zola, evil ,ex nazi,master geneticist standing over Sharon Carter holding a needle. I wonder if THAT might have anything to do with this shadowy Cap figure facing Bucky. Hmm...
That might be it. Maybe he's using the time-travel thing to age the foetus to adulthood. Ew.

But, as you'll see if you got to the Front Page, there isn't any Secret Invasion tie-in. So he's probably no Skrull.

Anyway - this is just a cover. It could be this is all Bucky's dream sequence. Notice he's also crouching low, with his gun and shield up - why would he try to defend himself if it was Steve?

[Yaw]

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/i/content/st/2707new_storyimage4126783_full.jpg


Fu<aaa>ck you, Marvel. If Steve Rogers comes back then I'm fu<aaa>cking done with you.

I know it won't make one little bit of difference if I threaten to go, but god fu<aaa>cking dammit....if Steve Rogers' death is undone after only ONE YEAR then I'm out. And oh well boo hoo for me if I do.

calm down. jeez.

[Chief Jon]

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/i/content/st/2707new_storyimage4126783_full.jpg


Fu<aaa>ck you, Marvel. If Steve Rogers comes back then I'm fu<aaa>cking done with you.

I know it won't make one little bit of difference if I threaten to go, but god fu<aaa>cking dammit....if Steve Rogers' death is undone after only ONE YEAR then I'm out. And oh well boo hoo for me if I do.

I'm with you on hoping that Jim Barnes is Cap for the long haul here Equinox (I never would have imagined myself saying that two to five years ago), but I don't think that we're going to have Steve foisted back upon us here. I think that whatever is in that classic Cap uniform is not the real Steve Rogers but something that Zola has built for the Skull. I know a lot of people keep dropping the word Skrull around with this character, but Brubaker has been pretty insistent for months in interviews that this title isn't going to be directly involved in Secret Invasion so I very much doubt that will be the case. I wish more of my fellow readers would accept that, whether Steve Rogers rises from the dead or not, Brubaker has a bigger, character driven and focused story here that can stand independently of any big annual Marvel event.

[jmb]

Ultimately, I still feel it is better to have two viable characters in Bucky and Steve than it is to have only one.

My sentiments exactly. But I'm sure as heck enjoying Bucky as Cap!!:D

[10dollarsuck]

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/i/content/st/2707new_storyimage4126783_full.jpg


Fu<aaa>ck you, Marvel. If Steve Rogers comes back then I'm fu<aaa>cking done with you.

I know it won't make one little bit of difference if I threaten to go, but god fu<aaa>cking dammit....if Steve Rogers' death is undone after only ONE YEAR then I'm out. And oh well boo hoo for me if I do.

Easy there, my friend! I stand with you in the 'no-need-to-kill-characters-for-shock-value-just-to-bring-them-back-for-more-shock-value-camp' but Brubaker wrote Caps death fantastically with the angle that, at a time when a man like Steve is needed more than ever (not just for his heroism but for everything he stands for) he gets gunned down as a martyr.

Now if his return is written with the same gusto, after only a year or no, i'd be all for that. Steve was never gonna be gone forever, we all knew that, and - like i says - at a time when he's needed most, he's brought back and Tony has to explain to him just exactly whats been going on, thats awesome story dynamics there. Steve's been screwed over like a bitch but when it comes down to it, he's still gonna put everyone else first, thats f*cking heroic man and i trust Brubaker enough to do it right.

Dont be like the BND whiners man, Bru has knocked out years of fabulous Cap stories, if he is bringing Steve back, give him a chance to tell the story. If he f*cks it i'll be right with you in dropping the book. Just have faith man, this book kicks ass!

[mightytev]

Although the Cap book won't be directly involved with Secret Invasion, it could still be a skrull.

In my mind, "directly involved" means having an integral part to the main story. If Jim were to meet a skrull and dispatch him all within this book, thats completely separate.

Think back to House of M - the Thunderbolts issue had nothing to do with anything, but was set in the House of M-verse and had all the trade dress etc.

[FANBOY4LIFE]

I think it's Bucky meeting the Avengers/Invaders cap.

[House of J]

I originally thought Invaders Cap too, and it may be so, But the Arnim Zola cloning or incubating Sharon's baby or some material gained from said baby is a much more intriguing idea that seems more in line with Brubaker's foreshadowing and his tendency to keep this book on its own course rather than worrying too much about the rest of Marvel. This would be classic Red Skull perfidy as well.

Either way, this is the ONE book that has been consistently rewarding and worth the cover price in the last year, so I'm on board to see where things go. I just wish I were enjoying the rest of Ed's books as much as this one. (With the exception of Criminal, the last arc seemed a little cliched and predictable, but the first issue of the new arc is quite promising.)

That being said, I still don't like the new costume at all, I think the design is awful and looks non-functional. And the Marvel universe seems to be lacking something without Steve that a Bucky Barnes Cap is never going to fill. The New Avengers seem rudderless without Cap and now without Dr. Strange.

[UltimateMatt]

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