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MattBrady
01-14-2008, 02:14 PM
<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/superarticulate/DCD08/Harley.jpg" border="0" align="right"><i>by Jim Beard</I>

Greetings! Just before the end of ’07, I had the chance to speak with Georg Brewer, VP-Design and DC Direct Creative about the year now past, some new developments, and future lines. We now bring that chat to you.

Georg Brewer: Thank you for the opportunity to talk with you. Right off let me say that talking about the DC Direct line can be a bit of a challenge given the product cycle and long lead times for development. Basically as we sit here at the end of 2007 we are already wrapping up development on the product you will see in stores throughout 2008 and we have started 2009. So excuse me if I bounce back and forth between stuff developed in a certain year and stuff that actually came out in stores. I know it can be confusing but welcome to our world.

Newsarama:How do you place 2007 for DCD? What did it achieve as a company and what if anything was a disappointment?

Brewer: I think 2007 was a solid year for both the line and our collectors. We managed our growing list well, and hit some nice high notes. In the core action figure line we’ve seen two of our longest running lines ever, the Alex Ross designed Justice and McGuiness Superman/Batman lines wrap up. And we launched DC Unlimited with the World of Warcraft, which was a success on all fronts. And with the continued extension of Batman Black and White as well as our core statue program I think we hit it on numerous fronts. All in all looking back we have a lot to be happy about.

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/superarticulate/DCD08/Jokercane.jpg" border="0" align="left">NRAMA: Do you feel DCD truly “broadened its scope” in 2007, as you have stated as a goal?

Brewer: Definitely! We continue to try new things, and while it all cannot work we have more hits then misses. DC Unlimited holds the potential for tremendous expansion for our creative talents. The 1:6th scale line has come into its own and the diversity of characters and body types has set the stage for even more interesting things to come. Ame-Comi, the reconfigured prop program and just a few action figures lines show how broad we can go.

NRAMA: This is nine years of DCD’s first ten; what exactly does that mean to you? Is it an achievement or is it ‘business as usual’? Is it a better company now? Are you a better director?

Brewer : It has been a wild ride that is sure. In the beginning there was only three or four of us getting it all done, and that was on top of everything else we were already doing. Syndee Barwick has been here from the very beginning with our current Production Manager, Christine Napolitano coming in shortly there after. There are more of us on the team now, but in many ways as a tightly knit group we still come together with the same entrepreneurial spirit to get the line out. Even after nine years we continue to learn to do what we do better, and I hope that comes out in the final product.

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/superarticulate/DCD08/Supergirl.jpg" border="0" align="right">NRAMA: The 13” line seems to have taken off; what where the most important things you’ve learned in ’07 about the line? How will that help going forward?

Brewer: Each figure has its own set of challenges and provides and education that carries over to the next. In many ways as we complete one figure and have the next four or five in the hopper we find our more of what we don’t know. It’s solving these challenges and problems creatively that keeps the juices flowing.

NRAMA: Will we see the 13” Wonder Woman in ’07? Another teen figure?

Brewer: Sorry no, but she will be in 2009, and seen for the first time in 2008. In some ways she is one of the hardest figures to pull off. From the amount of the figure you see in the costume to her trademark hair we’ll keep working on it until it is right, and every fan looks on her as the definitive Super Heroine 1:6th scale figure.

NRAMA: 2007 also seems to have been a good year for the Minimates program; what have you learned there? Does it curtail any thoughts of a more realistic line of small figures?

Brewer: Creatively Minimates has been a fun line to work on, and the mix of character choices has had some nice surprises. It would have been good had they performed at bit better, but their holding their own. To me these have little to do with a realistic line of small-scale figures, as I’m not convinced they would hit all of the same collectors. We have in fact developed prototypes of a 4” figure line, so you never know.

NRAMA: The New Gods figures were a great 2007 reveal; has initial reaction been enough to warrant a second wave?

Brewer: Reaction was great, but in general it is a hard marketplace for secondary characters. That said I think I have a picture of some additional NG figures around here somewhere… Jim “Kirby-Crazy” Fletcher probably took them. Editor’s Note: A Wave 2 Kalibak has since been shown in ToyFare magazine.

NRAMA: Showcase Presents (http://www.newsarama.com/superarticulate/Showcase/ShowcaseFigs.html) also caused a healthy stir among collectors; do you feel the calls for a tweaking of the Superman sculpts to be warranted? Will there be any adjustments to any of the figures?

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/superarticulate/DCD08/SHC1.JH_t.jpg" border="0" align="left">Brewer: I am a big fan of the Showcase line myself; it bridges some of the same space captured by First Appearance while also having a specific artistic style to it. We are always tweaking and adjusting the figures as they go along through production, but I don’t think any major changes are planned. There are so many challenges interpreting different artist’s styles, and those very same artists do drift and evolve over time. Agreeing on the definitive look can be literal to a specific comic issue, or a gestalt of the overall body of work. Take Nick Cardy’s Aquaman who I was just discussing today. In the early issues he had a real Steve Canyon flavor to his work, but by the end of the stories in that first Showcase he had matured into his later more rounded style of drawing. We keep swinging for it, and I’ll always consider specific comments and suggestions where practical. I think the debate, when presented respectfully, is healthy and fun for our community of collectors.

NRAMA: Lots of Justice in ’07 as well as some controversy over the armored figures; what is your justification of the armored figures and where can the line possibly go from here?

Brewer: I was surprised by the reaction to the armored figures, and to me given their role in the story there were valid for the line. By the time this hits we will have announced our “last” line of Justice. Though as I often say never say never, and we can always go back to that story if the fan demand is there. We are cooking up something further with Alex so stay tuned. Editor’s Note: This is obviously the JSA line, recently revealed in ToyFare magazine.

NRAMA: You’ve mentioned a bit of your plans for the 10th anniversary of DCD in ’08; what more can you tell us of those plans for a line of anniversary figures?

Brewer: Plans seem to change daily. We do have some new ideas in the hopper and will share them early in the New Year.

We’d like to thank Georg and Alex Segura of DC for their time and for making these Q&As work. Stay tuned for more Super-Articulate tomorrow!

KoozyK
01-14-2008, 02:20 PM
i'm gonna get that jonah figure. blazed!

that supergirl looks bad...

Korvac
01-14-2008, 02:23 PM
Fate helmet. Fate helmet. Fate helmet.

MattBrady
01-14-2008, 02:24 PM
Fate helmet. Fate helmet. Fate helmet. stuck on head stuck on head stuck on head

calling fire department calling fire department calling fire department

funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever

never goes on a date never goes on a date never goes on a date

MattB

Kevenn
01-14-2008, 02:31 PM
I'm buying a LOT less figures from DC Direct in 2008. There's not one wave solicited so far where I feel the need to get all of the figures in the wave. The repitition of figures of the same characters over and over again (I'm looking at you, Batman, Superman, and non-cool versions of Wonder Woman) is the biggest factor in that.

Want us to buy more Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman? How about Wonder Woman's Deodato/Bolland biker outfit? Artemis as Wonder Woman? Queen Hippolyta as Wonder Woman?

More Batman? How about red and blue versions of later Jean Paul Valley AzBats?

More Superman? Electro Superman red and blue versions?

instead we get innane Elseworlds versions and crap like Matt Wagner Trinity figures. (BARF)

Poolman
01-14-2008, 02:34 PM
I really dislike that Supergirl costume.

Nice Hex BTW :D

vbartilucci
01-14-2008, 02:42 PM
stuck on head stuck on head stuck on head
When I ran a comic show a while back, Harvey Comics was just publishing the Ultraman books. They had a guy done up as Ultraman at the show, and the suit was sent care of the con office, and we held on to it after the show, so it could be shipped back to Tsuburaya productions.

After the con was over, one of my friends who was working on the con with me had a confession.

"You know that Ultraman costume we had in the office? Well, while no one was around, I put the mask on and ran around the room like I was flying..."

I looked at him very calmly.

"It smelled weird, didn't it?"

I had done the same thing.




Syuwach!

TheNoirPI
01-14-2008, 02:43 PM
stuck on head stuck on head stuck on head

calling fire department calling fire department calling fire department

funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever

never goes on a date never goes on a date never goes on a date

MattB
SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!

Statham
01-14-2008, 02:43 PM
I'm getting the Joker cane, no two ways about it.

hunterjax
01-14-2008, 02:48 PM
While I have been really happy with almost all of the sculpts for the 13" line, the head on the new Joker they are advertising is just really bad. He looks like a really goofy bucktoothed moron. The rest of the figure really looks perfect, but those teeth and that lipless mouth are soooo bad, I hope that there is enough of an outcry against them that DCD can change the sculpt before it goes into production.

I hate to be "that" fanboy, but the second I saw the image I was just so dissappointed - they were finally doing Joker, but there is no way I can possibly buy that thing.

AirDave817
01-14-2008, 02:50 PM
I wish that I had gotten J'onn J'onnz, The Flash and Green Lantern from the New Frontier series.

I'm sticking with the Alex Ross Justice (Super Friends) figures. More heroes than villains because of my budget. I like the Captain Cold and Toyman figures. They rock! I just hope that the line includes the Titans.

samnoir
01-14-2008, 02:55 PM
I was hoping for some product announcements!

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King of Town
01-14-2008, 03:19 PM
stuck on head stuck on head stuck on head

calling fire department calling fire department calling fire department

funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever

never goes on a date never goes on a date never goes on a date

MattB

Jeez Mr. B, I have never seen you attack someone so directly before. Everything alright? :p

Not a Hex fan for the most part (although his appearance in Booster Gold was great), his figure looks awesome.

SMARTASS8
01-14-2008, 03:43 PM
I know I'm in the minority, but I really wish they kept the DCU Pocket Heroes line going. I just don't like the look of the Mini-Mates or any of those super-deformed/designer vinyl toys. There was also a rumor a while back about a Super Powers styled line. I don't know if that's the 4" line Mr. Brewer was talking about, but that would rock. I just don't have the room or patience for the 7" toys with 26 points of articulation; smaller toys lead to more characters being made and more room to store more toys.

wildcat71
01-14-2008, 03:54 PM
I think the Supergirl looks great. like the costume or not, that's what she wore in Justice. Her face looks much better than it did in Justice too.

Hoppy
01-14-2008, 04:02 PM
never goes on a date never goes on a date never goes on a date

MattB

pot calling kettle pot calling kettle pot calling kettle

"Yeah, baby, I'm a pro journalist...What's that? For what type of publication, you say? Erm..."

Korvac
01-14-2008, 04:33 PM
stuck on head stuck on head stuck on head

calling fire department calling fire department calling fire department

funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever funniest piece on 11 o'clock news ever

never goes on a date never goes on a date never goes on a date

MattB

I apologise for my excessive candor.

Mr. Brewer, can we expect to see the Dr. Fate helmet prop released in the next year?

J.D. Lombardi
01-14-2008, 04:34 PM
Fate helmet. Fate helmet. Fate helmet.

Indeed! I'm all for the high-end, high-quality "props."

lol Give me a Skeets!

Zypster X
01-14-2008, 04:42 PM
Why does the Harley Quinn figure have a man face? That jaw looks ridiculous!!!!!

SMARTASS8
01-14-2008, 04:45 PM
Why does the Harley Quinn figure have a man face? That jaw looks ridiculous!!!!!

The Joker loves trannies!!

KyleCowstar
01-14-2008, 04:53 PM
Indeed! I'm all for the high-end, high-quality "props."

lol Give me a Skeets!

Yea! And a Booster Gold costume for me to wear!

Vic Vega
01-14-2008, 05:26 PM
So, did anybody buy the Joker pimp-cane?

Is there a big pimp-cane market out there? Does it come with a purple fedora too?

von Doom, M.D.
01-14-2008, 05:49 PM
I wish that I had gotten J'onn J'onnz, The Flash and Green Lantern from the New Frontier series.

I'm sticking with the Alex Ross Justice (Super Friends) figures. More heroes than villains because of my budget. I like the Captain Cold and Toyman figures. They rock! I just hope that the line includes the Titans.

The article clearly states that the wave including Batgirl, Supergirl, Captain Cold, and Toyman is the last series, which means no Titans.

It astounds me that, despite gracing the cover of the second issue, and being one of the more prominent villains in the Legion, they didn't make a Riddler figure, especially considering the awesome re-design that Ross did for him.

King of Town
01-14-2008, 06:00 PM
It astounds me that, despite gracing the cover of the second issue, and being one of the more prominent villains in the Legion, they didn't make a Riddler figure, especially considering the awesome re-design that Ross did for him.

Probably because they couldn't get the light show holigram effects to look cool in an action figure. Maybe they could have done some kind of light up effect like they have done in the past, but it might have been cost prohibitive. I think you are right in that it is a shame they didn't include some kind of Riddler figure though. Too bad.

O.J. Flow
01-14-2008, 06:07 PM
It astounds me that, despite gracing the cover of the second issue, and being one of the more prominent villains in the Legion, they didn't make a Riddler figure, especially considering the awesome re-design that Ross did for him.


...with you there, friend.
What compounds this is the one all-around lousy wave that just hit stores last week, a 4-character wave with 2 retreads (John Stewart, Grodd), and 2 not-in-demand armored figures (Superman, Aquaman).
Clearly the window of opportunity was missed big time on Riddler, and they could've gotten into the Titans maybe, or at least Giganta.
Those were the only original Legion of Doom characters they ignored in this line, Riddler and Giganta.
:o

nightwingoracle
01-14-2008, 06:13 PM
I think the Supergirl looks great. like the costume or not, that's what she wore in Justice. Her face looks much better than it did in Justice too.


Same here....plus it's my personal fave Supergirl costume ever.

M. Bloom
01-14-2008, 06:17 PM
I'm really enjoying the DC Minimates, and I hope we get more waves of the little guys throughout '08. I especially want a Fire and Ice set to go along with Guy, Beetle, and Booster.

Capt_Piett
01-14-2008, 07:00 PM
The Poison Ivy Justice figure, OTOH, despite looking beautiful on the packaging, looked HORRIBLE in person. Every one I saw in stores had NO neck. It was like, head > shoulders. Ruined an otherwise perfect sculpt.

waterdragon
01-14-2008, 07:09 PM
Can DC Direct actually have quality control in 2008? Stay tune for no answer to that question. Seriously, there needs to be quality control and brushing it under the carpet is not going to happen. I'm pissed off that half of my 13" lines have had problems and there's nothing I can do about it because calling DC Direct about is as helpful as just tossing the damn toys in the trash.

Alan Coil
01-14-2008, 07:23 PM
The new figures from Mattel are SUH-WEET! Especially the "build it" figure Metamorpho.

JamesJesse
01-14-2008, 07:39 PM
Great interview and really appreciate Jim and Georg taking the time to do this.


There are a couple of points I would like to make that would hopefully make Georg give more credence to fan wishlists over his personal biases.

1) I wish they touched on the 52 line though. It seemed to sell well and that goes against
Georg's belief that the marketplace isn't for secondary characters. I was curious if their numbers support this perception. The only from that line I see warming the pegs are Supernova and Batwoman. Booster Gold sold extremely well. Even after reorders. And he was a character Georg didn't believe in, as I recall.

2) I was surprised they never got around to the Riddler on JUSTICE. I really think the Armored figures and the recent wave did it in. Georg really overestimated the value of those armored figures. However, I'm glad we at least got to Captain Cold before they ended the line.

I like what Georg has in store for the second and third quarter of 2008. I hope we get some more neat surprises for the latter half of the year. I'm glad he's finally giving us JLI.

We all know Georg is a GL nut. Hopefully this can lead to more Sinesro Corps figures. It was THE crossover of 2007. (From ANY company) and i really merits his attention.

Still hoping for a Flash wave though.

I was sad to hear that the DC Minimates aren't performing as well as I would have wanted. This line got me in to Minimates and even got me to hunt down Minimates from other lines. I hope it lasts a while longer as they are holding their own. Maybe DCD (if they choose to let it go) could hand the reigns over to Diamond Select and Art Asylum because they have been keeping Minimates from other properties going strong.

Thanks for the interview again.

Jim Beard
01-14-2008, 07:58 PM
The new figures from Mattel are SUH-WEET! Especially the "build it" figure Metamorpho.

I'm afraid you mean "Rex Mason", sir. Don't get DC in trouble by insisting on calling him by that trademarked name.

Jim!

Jim Beard
01-14-2008, 08:01 PM
Great interview and really appreciate Jim and Georg taking the time to do this.

Speaking for myself, it was my pleasure.

Thanks for reading!

Jim!

Rod Keith
01-14-2008, 08:06 PM
Interesting, though somewhat downbeat interview...

Minimates not doing as well as hoped? Maybe the market is too flooded. Hopefully we'll continue to get more, and more key characters before they can it. I don't want another repeat of Pocket Heroes (several significant characters missing on what was promised to be another "everyone in the DCU" mini-line). I really like this line, and it's the only Minimates line I collect.

I find the closure of the Justice line slightly premature, and a little aggravating considering the presence of the armored figures, and the re-treads like Gorilla Grodd (new head on old figure) and John Stewart (old John Stewart head on Hal Jordan body?!). We missed out on a wave of Robin, Elongated Man, Giganta and the Riddler, which would have finished off the central teams, not to mention never-before-made characters like Doom Patrol, Mera, Metal Men, and Silver Age Teen Titans, among others, who had their best shot in plastic through the Ross line.

Looking forward to seeing the 13" Wonder Woman, though the recent Power Girl figure exposed some significant weaknesses in the sculpt of the basic female body-- too-thin legs with too-thick waist, not to mention the continual annoying presence of the thigh cut joint, will make this one tough to pull off.

Well, as usual with DC Direct, I'm always hoping for the best! I'd like to see some more classic figures come out as part of the hinted 'fan' wave in later '08, and I'm definitely excited about more New Gods, and the possibility of the JLI lasting more than one wave.

Jim Beard
01-14-2008, 09:13 PM
I wish t'God they'd eliminate the thigh-cut, on both the male and female 13" bodies.

Jim

waterdragon
01-14-2008, 09:50 PM
The thought cut was bad enough, but why give Power Girl flesh colored stockings if they did nothing to hide the said problem of the thigh cut? I cannot even display Martian Manhunter without his perpetual wedgie.

Alvatron
01-14-2008, 10:35 PM
I'd like to see Ted Kord reactivated.

Zechs
01-15-2008, 12:57 AM
Hmm more Superman.. then by all means MORE CYBORG SUPERMAN!! :p

SMARTASS8
01-15-2008, 01:49 AM
I'm afraid you mean "Rex Mason", sir. Don't get DC in trouble by insisting on calling him by that trademarked name.

Jim!

Mattel can't call him Metamorpho? I thought they had the license to use any DC character? Does some other toy company have the rights to make a Metamorpho toy?

JediMaster
01-15-2008, 08:45 AM
The biggest problem I have with DCD these days is scale. They seem to keep getting bigger and bigger, which annoys the crap outta me! I hate it that Vixen towers over my Superman figure, or that Zod and Ursa look like giants next to my other villians. Don't even get me started on the Justice line, with their scale being all over the place.

Mattel's DC Universe figures seem to be more consistent on the scale issue, and the sculpts look great. I'll still buy DCD stuff, but not as much as previously. Mattel is giving me the chance to plug holes in my collection, as well as replace some characters with more consitently scaled figures.

ClayinCA
01-15-2008, 10:05 AM
Same here....plus it's my personal fave Supergirl costume ever.
I agree completely. I've been picking and choosing which of the JUSTICE figures I buy (can't stand the tree-trunk neck look for Ross's Superman, for example), but this was the Supergirl I grew up with, and I look forward to buying the JUSTICE versions of Supergirl and Batgirl.

Alan Coil
01-15-2008, 01:11 PM
I'm afraid you mean "Rex Mason", sir. Don't get DC in trouble by insisting on calling him by that trademarked name.

Jim!

I wouldn't know and I can't check the packages because I threw them away! :D

target242
01-15-2008, 01:12 PM
I know I'm in the minority, but I really wish they kept the DCU Pocket Heroes line going. I just don't like the look of the Mini-Mates or any of those super-deformed/designer vinyl toys. There was also a rumor a while back about a Super Powers styled line. I don't know if that's the 4" line Mr. Brewer was talking about, but that would rock. I just don't have the room or patience for the 7" toys with 26 points of articulation; smaller toys lead to more characters being made and more room to store more toys.

No, I agree with you! I loved the pocket superheroes line and collected them all...i was hoping to see that line continued as well. The Minimates are ok...but that's it..just ok. Anyone else into that line? Perhaps with enough vocal support....